SCENEHD - closing down tracker

[Krell]

Hey all you BT bitches, sad news on the HD front.


"IMPORTANT NEWS!

Sorry fellow SceneHD users but we will close down the tracker (download/upload) on 28th April. Due to emails from the Swedish Anti-Piracy Bureau. We don't want to risk getting sued.

Forum and IRC will works as usual."


I kind of hope they go down and stay down. I used to like them, but they have a real stick up their ass.

P***ies



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[thelastfreeman]

Krell, you left a little bit out.


This is only temporary, we are looking on some other options.

[1cooldude]

no doubt things will change and for the better.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Many tracker are calling it quits in the face of millions of dollars in damages if they keep operating. About a dozen have went under since the Pirate Bay ruling. This sucks for me right now as my 1.5TB drive went belly up with lots of HD content onboard. I still hope to recover it but if I do not it is gonna be really hard to get some of the content back. Ive been telling you guys to load up on content because things were gonna get tough all over, well the days are here people. Its gonna get mighty thin for awhile.

[Krell]

Krell, you left a little bit out.

Quote:
This is only temporary, we are looking on some other options.


Yeah, I saw no need to be over optimistic about it. Looking on some other options and implenting other options are not the same thing.

"I have no current plan" isnt usually worth mentioning.

[El Comandante]

I don't see how a lower court ruling in the Pirate Bay matter could have such immediate effect on SceneHD or other trackers. It's not as if there are raids all over the country. If I understand correctly, the PB decision is being appealed and it's underpinnings are questionable. These guys are demonstrating absolutely no backbone.

[1cooldude]

perhaps because they have no money to get expensive lawyers.
can't really blame them.

[Excrement_Cranium]

Well, fuck me. If it ain't Gandalf Stormcrow.

[RACKnRAIL]

Well, fuck me. If it ain't Gandalf Stormcrow.

Ye harr maties...It's the Captain!!

:swordfight:

[Mels_Smileys45]

perhaps because they have no money to get expensive lawyers.
can't really blame them.

Yep. Its really easy for us to say they have no backbone when we are not risking our financial lives. The PB case has shown that people are not safe with this web based form of file distribution and it makes it very easy to pin point the people who are making the program a viable option. Its always been a disaster waiting to happen...but I hear new BT programs are in the works that may actually take the burden off the websites. I know its been promised before so we will have to wait and see. I would love to see a network based BT program that is searchable and makes each person run their own file tracker for their files. Of course this makes the users liable but show some backbone! lol

[1cooldude]

Yep. Its really easy for us to say they have no backbone when we are not risking our financial lives. The PB case has shown that people are not safe with this web based form of file distribution and it makes it very easy to pin point the people who are making the program a viable option. Its always been a disaster waiting to happen...but I hear new BT programs are in the works that may actually take the burden off the websites. I know its been promised before so we will have to wait and see. I would love to see a tracker for their files. Of course this makes the users liable but show some backbone! lol


yes, we've learned to expect a lot from larger trackers only because we've never been threatened with a multi-million dollar lawsuit. Changes are coming and a lot of information will be kept out of the prying eyes. As far as your last statement about individual file tracker, I suppose it could be done but the current methods of encoding algorithm to encrypt the packets will have to be improved and tightened up.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Yeh, I don't like the slow encryption but I think some programs allow it to be turned off when people are sure they are sharing among friends. I myself do not want my packets encrypted and I think the only person who should do that would be the person hosting the original seed. Thats just the way I feel about it. Keeping everything encrypted really slows things down but with todays high octane upload speeds its not too bad unless you are one of these people who sit and stare at the download its not that bad at all. I really don't get people who do that either. I usually set my downloads before I go to sleep and then check it when I wake up. I don't see the point in getting in a huge rush. I guess its how our society is today...with EVERYTHING! Just like the credit cards and such. People can't wait to get anything. Don't people have other things to do besides stare at a download meter? If people can learn to plan ahead for things in their life perhaps this world wouldnt be so screwed!

Sorry for the rage and going far off topic! lol The people that bitch about speed, when the speeds of today even on the low end are so much faster than I ever imagined they would be, make me ill. Pretty soon if the movie doesn't appear instantly on their PC they will scream for seeders. lol

"Im only getting 400TB/sec! Will someone please seed!" I can see it now. :zx11pissed:

[napho]

I don't think the situation is all that dire. The best solution for the MPAA and RIAA is to get the isp's to limit monthly bandwidth use. Aussies with a 20GB/month limit don't seem to be getting many HD movies and games. I think most trackers are hanging in there. There's always Usenet too.
As far as criticizing them for packing it in, it reminds me of women during a war. They're so brave that they're willing to fight to the last man. :wink:

[1cooldude]

I don't think the situation is all that dire. The best solution for the MPAA and RIAA is to get the isp's to limit monthly bandwidth use. Aussies with a 20GB/month limit don't seem to be getting many HD movies and games. I think most trackers are hanging in there. There's always Usenet too.
As far as criticizing them for packing it in, it reminds me of women during a war. They're so brave that they're willing to fight to the last man. :wink:

you're not serious about this? :eek:

[Signa]

Being conservative, I doubt I could get under a gig a day. Youtube videos aren't that small.

[1cooldude]

Being conservative, I doubt I could get under a gig a day. Youtube videos aren't that small.

it's all relative to the times we live and "small" d/l caps would spell disaster for many of us.

[Mels_Smileys45]

you're not serious about this? :eek: No, Napho is very serious and that is where the ISP business is heading. They are going to try this anyway but with more and more legit services that will want to stream movies directly to consumers it has hurdles to over come. How they will improve services to legitimize the HUGE bandwidth packages they are selling at a tremendous price is problematic. If people can't use that fast speed to download what they want without having to worry about a big penality for going over then people will stop paying for the extra pipe and go cheap.

Charter is reportedly capping people but so far I have not been affected but this could be because I am buying the fastest package offered in my area right now. Thats what its all about. Making the people who use BT pay extra. I am down for that all the way if they will not screw with me. Charter has not sent me a MPAA letter in years and all I use for mainstream movies is public trackers. I get my old movies, porn and strange content elsewhere but for the latest movies I go to mininova or the Bay and never get hassled.
I am guessing its because they have figured out this is fruitless so they have been studying who is running the most successful pirate rings. To target the people who are making BT a successful platform is the only way to slow the BT roll. I imagine things will be a little slower in the near future but only for a while. There is always a way and we people have the will.

Back to what Napho was saying. The ISP's are where the real bottle neck will become apparent. If the ISP's make it difficult for people to upload a lot or download a lot and start cutting people off when they hit a limit it will make it tough all over.:wall:

Its the easiest way to make P2P difficult for people. By limiting people to downloading a couple of movies a month people will start being very choosy and the amount of people willing to leave BT running all the time will be very limited also. That will make BT suck balls.

[napho]

you're not serious about this? :eek:

Haven't you noticed isp after isp limiting monthly bandwidth? Some use it as an excuse to charge an extra $25 Canadian like mine, or they're starting to cut off heavy users like TW, or getting ready to do something or other like Charter. This "every time a torrent site shuts down 5 new ones open" doesn't take into account the simplest way to stop piracy is to just limit bandwidth. I'm celebrating my 8th anniversary of saying that our isp owns us and can do anything it wants to us. Encryption doesn't help because they can just throttle it all under the presumption that all massive encrypted data transfers are copyright material.