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1cooldude
April 11th, 2009, 11:17 AM
Somali pirates have hijacked a US-owned tugboat in the Gulf of Aden with 16 crew members on board - 10 of them Italians, reports say.

Maritime industry sources say the tug was towing two barges at the time of the attack at 0800 GMT. The crew are said to be unharmed.

Meanwhile pirates holding a US captain hostage have warned that using force to rescue him could result in "disaster".

The pirates said they hoped to put Capt Richard Phillips on a larger vessel.

US and other naval ships are making their way to the area.

He is being held by four pirates in a lifeboat hundreds of kilometres off Somalia.

Meanwhile unnamed US officials were quoted by the Associated Press as saying that the Federal Bureau of Investigation was examining the hijacking.

US Attorney General Eric Holder said last week there had not been a case of piracy against a US ship for hundreds of years.

In other developments:

* Sailors on a Panama-flagged bulk carrier repulsed a pirate attack with water hoses. Nato officials on a nearby Portuguese warship said an unexploded rocket-propelled grenade landed in the commanding officer's cabin
* On Friday, one Frenchman and two pirates were killed in a rescue operation by French troops on another vessel captured off Somalia. Four others, including a child, were freed from the yacht

Growing concern

Earlier reports suggested that a group of Somali elders were preparing to mediate between American officials and the pirates for Capt Phillips' release, but there has been no news of any progress.

The US national was taken hostage on Wednesday after pirates hijacked his ship, the Maersk Alabama, as it sailed towards the Kenyan port of Mombasa carrying food aid.

After a long struggle, crew members regained control of the ship. It is thought Capt Phillips offered himself as a hostage in order to save his crew.

The Maersk Alabama is expected to arrive in Mombasa shortly.

The BBC's Karen Allen at the port says there is unprecedented security, and the crew will be debriefed by FBI agents before they disembark.

There has been rising concern in the US over the fate of Capt Phillips - Defence Secretary Robert Gates told reporters in Washington on Friday that the safe return of the captain was a "top priority".

FBI experts are helping negotiate his release, but analysts have said the process could be lengthy.

Capt Phillips tried to escape on Friday by jumping overboard and swimming towards a nearby US ship, but was recaptured.

Reports in the US say the pirates are demanding a ransom of $2m for his safe release.

The US Navy destroyer, USS Bainbridge, is at the scene of the confrontation with other American warships on the way.

Stories circulating in Somalia claim that extra pirate ships are also making their way towards the area.

The pirates say they hope to transfer Capt Phillips to a bigger and better-protected vessel.

The Pentagon is also said to be considering other options, including possible military force, US sources say.

But the Somali pirate commander warned against any forcible intervention.

"I'm afraid this matter is likely to create disaster because it is taking too long and we are getting information that the Americans are planning rescue tricks like the French commandos did," Abdi Garad said.

French ordeal

The attacks have renewed international focus on hijackings in one of the world's busiest shipping lanes.

Florent Lemacon, the owner of the French yacht and father of the child who was on board, was killed during the rescue operation.

French Defence Minister Herve Morin said on Saturday that officials "cannot rule out" that Mr Lemacon was killed by French fire.

But he said the raid was "the best possible decision," and that an investigation would determine what happened on board the Tanit.

The four released hostages - Mr Lemacon's wife Chloe, their three-year-old son Colin, and two other adults - are due to arrive in Paris on Sunday, he said.

Somalia has been without an effective government since 1991, fuelling the lawlessness which has allowed the pirates to thrive.

Pirates typically hold the ships and crews until large ransoms are paid by the shipping companies. Last year the firms handed over about $80m (£54m).

Efforts to stop the pirates have so far had only limited success, with international naval patrols struggling to cover the vast areas of ocean where pirates operate.


Source... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7994980.stm)

mountain_rage
April 11th, 2009, 12:08 PM
Last article I read about the pirates basically put it all into perspective. The area has little to no money, no industry, no jobs. The pirates are the only source of revenue for the people of the area, so some consider them hero's.

The problem I see, and thought was inevitable is that governments and companies will only tolerate the piracy for so long, and eventually they will fight back. With the added security to the vessels passing through the area, pirates have gotten more aggressive and better armed fulling the problem even further. Chances are this will turn into military action, and I don't think the pirates know what they are getting themselves, and their people into.

Feather
April 11th, 2009, 02:18 PM
with risk come consequences

mfgbypooter
April 11th, 2009, 02:24 PM
Time to drop a nuke on Somalia and be done with it.

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Feather
April 11th, 2009, 02:25 PM
damn cant give you more rep

YWD67
April 11th, 2009, 03:00 PM
OK, I have wittnesed only a hand full of hostage situations in my career. None of those however involved the seizing of a ship by pirates though.

My knowledge of water way transportation is limted to a three man row boat on a river and small lake.

Even with that limited experience I don't see how in the hell a hand full of people can board a large moving vessele on the high seas.

A container hauler, tanker, or plain old cargo ship has a deck that is several stories high.
How in the hell is anyone able to get on board a ship that high off th water while it is moving let alone sitting anchored?

Is there any sea dogs out there with any answers for me.

El Comandante
April 11th, 2009, 03:07 PM
How in the hell is anyone able to get on board a ship that high off th water while it is moving let alone sitting anchored?

Is there any sea dogs out there with any answers for me.

Small fast boats, grapple hooks and ropes. These people are quite industrious and desperate.

Edit: Funny quote on my favorite tracker said: This site does not condone piracy or the taking of any water board vessel by force of arms. :nono:

1cooldude
April 11th, 2009, 03:10 PM
Last article I read about the pirates basically put it all into perspective. The area has little to no money, no industry, no jobs. The pirates are the only source of revenue for the people of the area, so some consider them hero's.

The problem I see, and thought was inevitable is that governments and companies will only tolerate the piracy for so long, and eventually they will fight back. With the added security to the vessels passing through the area, pirates have gotten more aggressive and better armed fulling the problem even further. Chances are this will turn into military action, and I don't think the pirates know what they are getting themselves, and their people into.

Somalia has been a very unstable nation and fundamentally, the piracy problem off the Somali coast arises out of the fundamental problem of statelessness on shore. There's not been an effective Somali government since 1991. So, without effective governing on shore you're going to have opportunities for criminals to engage in their enterprises with impunity. All the ransoms being paid by the shipping companies are also part of the problem.On one hand, from a purely economic point of view, it makes a great deal of sense if you have a cargo ship that is worth at least $20 to $30 million, it stands to reason that paying them a million dollars to get it back is an economically rational decision. Unfortunately, what might be in the selfish, self-interest of a single shipping company contributes to a general climate where the price of ransoms are bid up and there's incentive for more people to get involved in this lawlessness.

YWD67
April 11th, 2009, 03:35 PM
The inclosed life boat that was used to board the US ship is only capable of a few knots. It is not built for speed but survivability.

I can see a little Zodiac or tiwn eingine outboard maybe.

As for grappling hooks, firing one on a moving bobbing target
is also rather hard to beleive.

Even with armed men on the pursuing boat it could not stop some they high up from using a snatch hook from removing the grapple or cutting the line free.

Mels_Smileys45
April 11th, 2009, 03:51 PM
North Korea just fired a long range missile at the pirates! Now we know what they were really up to. Somebody has to save the world, right?

Aaron_Walkhouse
April 11th, 2009, 05:47 PM
Fix the real source of the problem and those fishermen will go back to
fishing instead of piracy. Somalians cannot effectively patrol their
coastal waters because they have no national government to pay for it or
an active navy to do the job. The African Union and/or the U.N. should
take on the responsibility of driving away the recent plague of
unauthorized trawlers doing massive amounts of illegal fishing and
freighters doing illegal waste dumping.

Those are the original reasons these guys armed themselves and started
patrolling their own waters instead of fishing. They could not compete
with massive fishing factories which roughly stripped all life from the
sea, leaving nothing but damage in their wake.

The crap being dumped in their waters has started to show up in the fish
stocks. Some of it has even washed up on shore, providing concrete proof
of the crimes in progress. It is starting to affect the health of the
people who have no choice but to eat what little they can catch.

When the fishing starts to fail and the little stock that is left
becoming hazardous to eat, fishermen have nowhere else to turn.

With those two major factors gone the fishermen can get back to feeding
their country instead of having to fight to survive with rusting firearms
and a rapidly deteriorating stock of leftover RPGs. The money they have
been gathering has helped them to feed themselves and the population for
now but it's never going to be as plentiful or as profitable as a healthy
fishery. The addictive qualities of the easy cash they are getting now
could eventually make it difficult to go back to the way things were.


The pirates holding that captain would get more mileage out of
negotiations by asking for help with that problem along with (or instead
of) demands for cash. Of course, even if the Somalis are talking about
precisely that it is highly unlikely the americans will report on that
aspect of the negotiations until the crisis is over, if ever. They would
never report on their own past and present failures while they still
enjoy total control of the flow of information from the scene.

aqlo
April 12th, 2009, 12:10 PM
13 mins ago

MOMBASA, Kenya – An American ship captain was freed unharmed Sunday in a U.S. Navy operation that killed three of the four Somali pirates who had been holding him for days in a lifeboat off the coast of Africa, a senior U.S. intelligence official said.

One of the pirates was wounded and in custody after a swift firefight, the official said.

Capt. Richard Phillips, 53, of Underhill, Vermont, was safely transported to a Navy warship nearby.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090412/ap_on_re_af/piracy

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090410/capt.14e06d4572064ecd85a62bea88d22e41.us_piracy_ny 114.jpg?x=213&y=348&xc=1&yc=1&wc=250&hc=408&q=85&sig=FQfwcBK1nhD7QjPQG8JUZg--


In Phillips' hometown, the Rev. Charles Danielson of the St. Thomas Church said before the news broke that the congregation would continue to pray for Phillips and his family, who are members, and he would encourage "people to find hope in the triumph of good over evil."

Reinhart said he spoke with Phillips' wife, Andrea, who is surrounded by family and two company employees who were sent to support her.

"She's a brave woman," Reinhart said. "And she has one favor to ask: 'Do what you have to do to bring Richard home safely.' That means don't make a mistake, folks. We have to be perfect in our execution."

Mels_Smileys45
April 12th, 2009, 01:56 PM
They just their foot in some pirate ASS!

Aaron_Walkhouse
April 12th, 2009, 02:20 PM
Here's the real story behind the headlines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRqYLCtKu2k
Higher quality: http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/23745/thenational/archive/pirates-040609.wmv

mountain_rage
April 12th, 2009, 02:31 PM
Here's the real story behind the headlines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRqYLCtKu2k

CBC being a nationally funded stations has always had much more eye opening stories than some of the other stations. Helps to validate the tax dollars spent ensuring its survival.