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PowerMan57two
December 16th, 2002, 04:26 PM
I was thinking about buying another 30 or 40 GB for my computer at 7200 RPMs. but say i buy 30gb will it be just another partition, or is there anyway i can just have that 30 or 40GB add onto my c:\ drive? or is this what happens anyways when i hook it up? cause i'd rather do that, then have it be another letter and partition... but whatever thanks

cheapprick
December 16th, 2002, 04:35 PM
If you use a product like Partition Magic you can convince your O/S that it is all one drive. Otherwise it will become your D: drive.

If you use FastTrack and are interested in Partition Magic, they have a sig2dat at http://peerweb.tk

wonderboy2005
December 16th, 2002, 04:46 PM
yeah... getting another HDD will result in your OS recognizing it as another drive (such as D:/), but as stated above, there are ways to convince the OS that multiple HDDs are one.

Foreverboard
December 16th, 2002, 04:52 PM
Using a Raid will do it also and make you HDD write speeds faster if done the right way. But you would have to purchase a raid card unless you have onboard raid on the motherboard. Just a suggestion for maybe a future system.

Jared592
December 16th, 2002, 06:31 PM
damn foreverboard, ya beat me to the RAID option! :P Oh well, the least I can do is contribute this:

cpugeniusmv
December 16th, 2002, 06:46 PM
the windows xp pro disk management utility can also make two drives into one partition.

notbob
December 16th, 2002, 06:56 PM
why a 30 or 40? an 80 is less than 100 bucks, 30 or 40 cost about the same

MoonMan
December 16th, 2002, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by notbob
why a 30 or 40? an 80 is less than 100 bucks, 30 or 40 cost about the same

Not if its used and the person is on a tight budget. I've seen 40 gig hds at small computer stores for 40 to 50 bucks. But then again I never trust used equipment for fear of getting conned (won't have been the first time though if it happens).

CCSDUDE
December 16th, 2002, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by MoonMan


Not if its used and the person is on a tight budget. I've seen 40 gig hds at small computer stores for 40 to 50 bucks. But then again I never trust used equipment for fear of getting conned (won't have been the first time though if it happens).

LMFAO No shit....I saw some used PC place selling 2.4 YES 2.4 gig drives for 39 bucks PLUS tax.....people bought 'em....they weren't "special" drives.....they were freakin cheap old school Maxtors.

They do seem to enjoy ass raping people.

Partition Magic will do it....or you can just buy an 80 gig drive and move all your stuff to D:\ and share it rather then C:\program files\kazaa lite\my shared folder. I also thought you share your download dir as well as any dir you choose to share.....soo you could share parts of each HD.

Is that what you were trying to do?

Tata

Wings_of_Azrael
December 16th, 2002, 09:27 PM
Ooh, I have a question. How do you find out the max. slave drive size your computer can handle. A friend of mine had a 20-30 gig Compaq and tried to add a 80 gig drive and it crashed his comp. I have a 40 gig HP, what would be the max. slave drive size it could handle? Doesn't say anything about this in the manual.

notbob
December 17th, 2002, 10:17 AM
you have to check the specs on the board manufacturer's site

i found out that mine won't support any single drive over 127GB

this can be fixed by partitioning the drive into segments that are smaller on another computer, or by upgrading the bios (warning only for hardcore glutton for punishment types--you can seriously fuck shit up messing with the bios)

The Hunter
December 17th, 2002, 10:22 AM
notbob, I have a question, can a person use an overlay to fool the computer into recognizing the drive? I know we could do that on older machines.

Munchables
December 17th, 2002, 10:28 AM
Fuck all that murging shit, If you try and merg your drives you will haft to reformat BOLTH drives so how the fuck are you going to backup all your shit on your dirve? play it simple buy anouter drive keep all your crap on one drive (winblowz, some apps and games) and use your outer dirve for like moviez and shit. Or what I did: one for gamez and moviez and the outer for appz and docs well untell I got into movie editing then it kida split over.

p.s. It woulden't be anouter partition it would be anouter drive. I dont know why you are talking about partitions you wan't the oppist a merger but don't do it too much trouble.

notbob
December 17th, 2002, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by The Hunter
notbob, I have a question, can a person use an overlay to fool the computer into recognizing the drive? I know we could do that on older machines.

it already recognizes it, only not as a 160GB drive, but as a 127GB drive--to make it see the whole thing i need 2 partitions


Originally posted by Munchables

p.s. It woulden't be anouter partition it would be anouter drive. I dont know why you are talking about partitions you wan't the oppist a merger but don't do it too much trouble.

2 partitions are seen by the computer as 2 drives even though they both come from 1 drive

back in windows 95 days, we had to partition all drives to 2.2GB chunks--6GB drive=c://,d://,e://

imagine a 160GB drive boy would that ever be a pain

The Hunter
December 17th, 2002, 10:47 AM
I think you know why I asked. On my old p133, it recognized my 8.4gig, but as a much smaller drive. So I had to wipe it, put on the overlay, and reload again. That was a pain on my first machine, and only having it 2 weeks. Its a hell of a way to learn.
LOL

crazytrain
December 17th, 2002, 11:03 AM
All hell go all out and just buy the new 200gig HDD.Then you will have room for everything.

Psilaxs
December 17th, 2002, 11:06 AM
WHY THE FU*& do you want a gigantic C:\ Drive? Unless you like loosing all of your data when windows has a severe crash and you need to reinstall. What you want to do is a headache, much easier to just get the new drive, plop it in, run the software, and windows will recognize it as a seperate HDD.

That way you can have all you data safe from windows crashes.

The Hunter
December 17th, 2002, 11:10 AM
I have to agree with you on the D drive, and I will add, also burn anything of value on the second drive. Just in case that one goes south.

notbob
December 17th, 2002, 11:22 AM
all my stuff is on f: , same deal

data and windows, 2 totally different drives (for when i migrate to linux some day)

CCSDUDE
December 17th, 2002, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by The Hunter
I have to agree with you on the D drive, and I will add, also burn anything of value on the second drive. Just in case that one goes south.

Care to take a guess at the reasoning behind me removing all my huge drives and struggling with a 7 giger? :wings


Well, I'll answer it.....

Cuz in the past with my mass collection of HD's all with tons of free space and tons filled....I neglected to burn my stuff to CD on a regular basis...

Sooooo now I have hmm.....around 210 gigs worth of unburned content that will take me ages to burn at my psychotically slow standard (I refuse to burn important data at speeds faster then 2-4x - don't ask me why....lol) and time isn't my friend in this situation....so for now I'm stuck tossing one huge drive after another in as E drive and burning a few measly discs when I have the time....moving burned material to a separate folder then shutting down.....unplugging the big HD and leaving it as is. After all I don't want it running 24/7 with the small drive....what if it crashes?! I'll be screwed! No thanks! LOL


Lesson in all my rambling......BURN DISCS OFTEN! YOU'LL REGRET IT LATER ON IF YOU DON'T!!!!


As you can see....I'm insane....ignore my periphrastically incoherent drivel of a post.... :mellow


Tata....

MoonMan
December 17th, 2002, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by CCSDUDE


Care to take a guess at the reasoning behind me removing all my huge drives and struggling with a 7 giger? :wings


Well, I'll answer it.....

Cuz in the past with my mass collection of HD's all with tons of free space and tons filled....I neglected to burn my stuff to CD on a regular basis...

Sooooo now I have hmm.....around 210 gigs worth of unburned content that will take me ages to burn at my psychotically slow standard (I refuse to burn important data at speeds faster then 2-4x - don't ask me why....lol) and time isn't my friend in this situation....so for now I'm stuck tossing one huge drive after another in as E drive and burning a few measly discs when I have the time....moving burned material to a separate folder then shutting down.....unplugging the big HD and leaving it as is. After all I don't want it running 24/7 with the small drive....what if it crashes?! I'll be screwed! No thanks! LOL


Lesson in all my rambling......BURN DISCS OFTEN! YOU'LL REGRET IT LATER ON IF YOU DON'T!!!!


As you can see....I'm insane....ignore my periphrastically incoherent drivel of a post.... :mellow


Tata....

Oh I know where you are coming from man! I had my WinMe 60gig computer (before the upgrade) with windows on c:\ and linux on another partition.. well I hadn't backed up ANYTHING and guess what? I got a boot sector virus (no virus scanner at the time, thought only idiots used those) and couldn't boot into lilo. When I finally got into WINDOWS everything was completely fucked up and I had to format everything and start over.. (its a bitch learning to fdisk (yes I use FAT32 on Win2k :-P) a harddrive with errors on it).

For all of those who care: I had to first load Red Hat Linux CD1 and erase all partitions, then boot up Windows98se and use fdisk (about 3 hundred times to get it right, kept getting errors and corrupt areas), once Windows98se was finally on (a story all on its own) I loaded Win2k (and it took at least another week to get proper sound, video, and modem drivers. )

Long story short I back up EVERYTHING now.... for fear of having another computer meltdown.

nasrules
December 20th, 2002, 07:44 AM
jus use it as two partitions.....works for me, now when i have to reformat i dont lose all my stuff!

Krell
December 20th, 2002, 08:10 AM
PowerMan57two

I dont normally post this late in a thread, but I think it may benefit. The root of your question is, "Can I add a 2nd hard drive? If I do, how will it be set up?"

Leave your existing hd right where its at, dont mess with it. Buy a 2nd drive, whatever size you can afford, and add it to either the Primary, or Secondary IDE bus.

You current hd is set to "Master" on the Primary IDE. Your CD Rom is either the "Slave" on the Primary IDE, or, It is the Master on the Secondary IDE.

When you add the new hd, you will plug in one of two IDE cables to it. So, if you plug in the cable that already has your current hd, it will have to be set to Slave.

Primary =
Master
Slave

Secondary =
Master
Slave

That is easily done by a little jumper on the hd itself. I am familiar with your machine specs, and I beleive it will prob see the new hd just fine. The BIOS is what looks at the drive, and determines if it will communicate with it. All drives " lie " about their size , hmmm, and it is this lie that fools the BIOS in to thinking its ok or not.

If that lie isnt the right one, then you will have a problem, and no amount of partitioning it will help. Also, you must know what you have to work with, and if you currently just have one hard drive, and one CDRom device, then buy two hard drives, as apposed to one really big one. Not quite the penny for penny savings, but there are performance considerations, and logistical benefits from it.

I hope this helped,

cheers

.

LordLOC
December 20th, 2002, 10:16 AM
Hey I'm curous, I have a friend that just bought an 80 gig Maxtor drive ok. He's running an OLD P2 333 system with an ATA-33 bus, but he also bought an ATA-133 PCI card.

Now he wants to keep all his shit, so can I just plop the new drive in on the slave of the master channel (on the card) and it'll just be there on the next boot right? Then just use disk management in XP to format it in NTFS? Then put his swap space on that drive heh.

Sounds about right?

Krell
December 20th, 2002, 10:37 AM
yup, sounds about right.

Extra step or two, but he will get in to windows, format it NTFS, simple volume.

cheers