Sonofabitch!!!!

[arizonaheatstroke]

Dammit! So, after they take away the old tried and true WinMX2.?, the stick us with this 3.? garbage. Fine, I can deal with that, even though the network is nowhere near as stable, and I'm not getting the 100kbps+ downloads like i was before. I got past the whole mysterious shutdown thing. Now it seems like WinMX 3.31 is killing my internet connection after about an hour of ontime. Keep in mind I have a cable connection that is "always on". It's happened many many times these past few weeks, but tonight it really upset me. I found two of the rarest mp3s in the world, two songs that mean a lot to me. And they were hosted by the same guy! So I get in his queue, and later, I just watch all my download and upload speeds drop to zero, before even starting these two particular downloads. So I reset the computer, get back on MX, and have to keep disconnecting the network to find the one with the guy with these two Cool For August mp3's. So, amazingly, I find him. Get back in his queue, although 20+ positions farther behind. What happens an hour later? I watch all my speeds dwindle down to 0! I hate this!!!!!!! I can't find these two mp3's ANYWHERE and this stupid program is pissing me off! Is this a known bug or what?

[MarkB]

Whoa! Relax there buddy! I think you're getting a heat stroke in Arizona! Welcome to WinMX, & welcome to ZP! Users need to limit uploads on WinMX so it doesn't suck up all of their bandwidth. If they are indeed rare files, be prepared to be queued. Stay in line & don't move! Another thing you could also do is ask that user politely if he/she could start your download, otherwise, try back another day. Or try an alternative program (preferably a "multi-source" program). I've said this before many times: WinMX requires a lot of patience! It is definately not intended for quickies! Have a little patience, & I'm sure you'll get what you want. If you don't have patience, then WinMX is probably not for you.

[arizonaheatstroke]

I've been using WinMX for over a year now, I know the little quirks and snags it has. I know how queing works, I'm not new to filesharing. What my big problem is WinMX is somehow killing my internet connection. Like I said in my previous post, I can actually see my speeds drop from 30kbps to zero in a matter of seconds. I have to restart my computer because my intenet connection is dead. Completely. No email, newsgroups, web pages, nothing. All I want to know is why and how to fix it.

[MarkB]

Maybe SkorchedHeads could help you out better than I can. He seems to be the expert on WinMX. Or try this Link (http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?postid=33508#post33508).

[Z7895123Z]

What Operating System are you using and are you using ZoneAlarm and or Norton Antivirus?

[arizonaheatstroke]

I'm using Windows 98SE. I have AVG anti-virus software, and I have ZoneAlarm, but I don't use it when I use WinMX (causes crashes when they both run). I have a Linksys LNE100tx (version 4) LAN card, use a Linksys switch and a BestData cable modem. I really think the problem lies within WinMX. See, I'll be doing a bunch of things at once, or, just WinMX, and my internet connection will suddenly die. And that only happens when I'm using WinMX. The only way to get back online is to restart my pc, and that is such a pain in the ass (takes forever).

[The Hunter]

:wings I know this is a dumb question, but how much ram do you have? Note this version of mx is better than the betas were, but it still uses more ram than the old version. If this is the problem, you might try a program to free up some memory, such as maxmemi. Hope this helps.

[arizonaheatstroke]

I've got 256 Megs of ram, and right now with WinMX running I've still got 73% of my resources free.

[The Hunter]

The reason I asked was I am running 98se also, I had a stick 256, and one of 128, and I had to use a program to free up memory with that much. Now I run 2 sticks of 256, and with Winmx running uploads at 35k, I have 83% free.

[fred-bloggs]

@arizonaheatstroke > your problem may be due to the combination of your linksys NIC and a primary connection. Try a secondary connection or another NIC (not a Netgear).

[arizonaheatstroke]

I would try another NIC, but I just can't afford one right now. As for using a secondary connection, umm, no. Why would I want to compromise download speed? I have a cable modem, with superfast speeds (test regularly on dslreports), why would I want to downgrade?

[The Hunter]

:wings Please use secondary, primary will kill you. Many people have had problems with this. You will get more results the way you are now, but the speed of your downloads will be down, also you are using resources that you may not be able to afford. It is worth a try.

[CrAzYMaNiAk54]

Definitely use secondary, primary will just kill your bandwith so there is no point. Secondary is perfect for you.

[Panty Snatcher]

arizonaheatstroke....I feel your pain!

You are not alone in this or imaging things. Although, if yall ever have this problem it will drive you to fire up a big "doobie" , just so you can mellow out enough to keep from throwing the whole system out in the front yard. As you can guess, I, also am suffering from being disconnected from my ISP, because of WinMX.

Now, surely me and old arizonaheatstroke aren't the only ones that have ever had this problem. So, some of yall experts give us some help, here! The switch to a "secondary" might help him (I doubt it), but it sure ain't gonna help me, cause that's all that I use. This problem goes far beyond something that simple. And as far as connections, I see people everyday that download from me that just drag (28K and yes, overloaded DSL's), but they hang in there 'til the bitter end.

I don't know exactly what he has going on, but it really sounds like my problem too (or close, anyway). As Ricky Ricardo would say, "Let me splain".

It is a problem that has shown itself in 2 different ways.

First Problem: I notice all of my uploads and downloads go "red". All disconnected! I try to go to my home page...nothing! I try to go to other sites like Excite.com..."Page can't be displayed". According to my computer, I am still connected at 50.333K. Oh really? If that is the case, then why can't I go anywhere?

Second Problem: Downloads and uploads will run as good as they ever have on dial up, but when I try to go anywhere else on the net....it is dead. I can't go anywhere. I get "page cant' be displayed". It's like I was off-line!

Either, of the above cases is the "kiss of death"! It's one of those deals where it ain't a want to...it's a have to. Oh yeah, you're gonna RE-BOOT. Or just sit there and twittle your thumbs.

So what is the deal here? If I am cut-off, it ought to be ..."BAM". Everything is down. I could understand that, but this is really weird. My ISP shows me still wide open. But in a polite Alabama term, "Ain't shit happening"

I also run Windows 98, 198 ram, and am stranded on a 56K dial up for at least the next couple of months. Cable is on the way! Thank, The Good Lord!

Don't know how my computer is gonna react to Cable. Yall have got to understand that this is a computer that has lived a sheltered life in North West, Alabama. I've got the feeling that it is gonna want to sniff the cable's ass before it hooks up with it....Smile!

Thanks for any help that yall can give! This really is a problem that exists. I'm surprised that someone hasn't mentioned it before. And I thank arizonaheatstroke, for bringing it up!

Thanks for past favors!

Ed
(Panty Snatcher)

[The Hunter]

:wings well as I have never run into a problem like that I am stumped. We must have some help on here, that have seen it before. How about it folks?

[phalkon30]

My friend had this problem with kazaa, it would create blups in his internet connection every five min or so, the dsl company couldnt fix it, the newest version fixed it, are you sure you have 3.31?

I would recommend upgrading the firmware on your router, that has fixed more problems with winmx and several other programs, what version router do you have? I know I can find an update for you, it allowed me faster speeds in general on the net and has made P2P great

I agree that primary could be the primary cause, what have you got to lose by tring it for five min? if it really doesnt work that well for you, the switch back to primary, i know primary gave me a ton of programs and robbed me of most of my bandwidth

along with updating the router firmware, run windows update and make sure all drivers are up to date, its amazing how performance in all areas can be increased by this simple task

and for panty snatcher...........how can you tell you're still connected? do you go through another computer to connect to the net? is your ISP somehow blocking you from file sharing? try reading their liscense agreement, maybe they are blocking the ports used by winmx, it is unlikely, but a possiblity

wheres skorch when ya need him? lol

[Panty Snatcher]

phalkon30,

The way most of 56ker dial people check to see if we are still on line is to right click the connection icon in the tool bar. If it says 50.333K, like mine does...what would you assume. I'd say that it is telling me that I am still connected!

Duh!

No, of course I do not go thru anouther computer to get connected. My God, I told you it is a dial up!

No, the ISP is not blocking anything. I have tried different ports and have talked with them as well. Everthing works fine, but after time, everything goes to "hell in a handbag".

Thanks for your thoughts...anyway!

Ed

[phalkon30]

Originally posted by Panty Snatcher
phalkon30,

The way most of 56ker dial people check to see if we are still on line is to right click the connection icon in the tool bar. If it says 50.333K, like mine does...what would you assume. I'd say that it is telling me that I am still connected!

Duh!

No, of course I do not go thru anouther computer to get connected. My God, I told you it is a dial up!

No, the ISP is not blocking anything. I have tried different ports and have talked with them as well. Everthing works fine, but after time, everything goes to "hell in a handbag".

Thanks for your thoughts...anyway!

Ed

Dude, calm down

the only dial up I've ever used was AOL (yes i know it sucks), I didnt have that right click thing, you were just in their browswer, period

You CAN go through another PC to get dial up internet, one of my friends did it for several years without a problem, yeah its slower, but his stepfather is a f***ing dumbass

glad to see your isp is cool with it

(just a thought), but could your isp be freezing? like if you check what speed its at, does that ever change?

[DigitalJunkie]

Panty Snatcher,

You are on 56k dialup using WinMX with multi-source download feature. I'm guessing that you may be getting "ping'" to death on the dialup connection, try closing UDP port in WinMX. Let me know, if this works for you or not!

[arizonaheatstroke]

Well, I don't have a router, so thats out, and I will never ever run Windows update, screws up too much shnizit. I've tried secondary all day, and it still does the same thing. I even changed ports, no dice. Gotta be a snag in 3.31, like the occasional reset was.

[CrAzYMaNiAk54]

Well, winmx should work for you, as Panty Snatcher said you might be getting pinged to death on ur dial up...

[Panty Snatcher]

phalkon30,

LOL!

Calm down???

Dang dude, you better hope that you never meet me when I'm having a REAL bad day. I''ve just been kidding around today and trying to find a solution to a problem that it is obvious that more than one is having.

While I thank you for your "attempt" at helping, it obvious that you are just like me...you don't know what the problem is.

I'm not an idiot! So, please don't try to treat me that way! I have tried all the simple stuff or I wouldn't be asking questions here.

I appreciate any logical solution to a problem, but don't try to "tap dance" around a problem. Either you know or you don't. What's the old saying..."You can keep your mouth closed and look ignorant or you can open it and remove all doubt".

I'm not excited, cause I know that there is a reason for this problem. And somebody out there knows what it is...or maybe can figure it out.

WinMX is not the most important thing in the world, BUT I do wish that it would work right!

Ed

[The Hunter]

I have never know him to treat anyone like a idiot. Also as I have never had the same problem it is hard to relate to. No one is treating you that way. All we want is for you to be able to share. Hopefully this will pop it to the top of the list when someone clicks view new posts, and you will get the right answer.

[phalkon30]

Originally posted by Panty Snatcher
phalkon30,

LOL!

Calm down???

Dang dude, you better hope that you never meet me when I'm having a REAL bad day. I''ve just been kidding around today and trying to find a solution to a problem that it is obvious that more than one is having.

While I thank you for your "attempt" at helping, it obvious that you are just like me...you don't know what the problem is.

I'm not an idiot! So, please don't try to treat me that way! I have tried all the simple stuff or I wouldn't be asking questions here.

I appreciate any logical solution to a problem, but don't try to "tap dance" around a problem. Either you know or you don't. What's the old saying..."You can keep your mouth closed and look ignorant or you can open it and remove all doubt".

I'm not excited, cause I know that there is a reason for this problem. And somebody out there knows what it is...or maybe can figure it out.

WinMX is not the most important thing in the world, BUT I do wish that it would work right!

Ed

Sorry you missinterpreted me, you didnt seem to have an answer, so I thought I could offer a few basic things to check through first, thats sorta "standard procedure" to go through and try to get out the basics

you wouldnt believe how many times I see "WinMX sux, it crashes my comp", and thats the ENTIRE post, i know you posted more info than that, but its helpful for us if we can have as much info about your situation as possible

no, I dont know the answer, but didnt it eliminate a few possiblitys? anyway, I had no way of knowing your technical abilty, on ZP you have to assume somebody knows nothing, otherwise you can sometimes go over their head

sorry if I offended you.....

Arizona, didnt you say you had a switcher? thats what I meant about router. Btw, I have NEVER had a problem with running windows update, it has NEVER messed up my comp, all its done is made it faster and more stable (in most cases)

[arizonaheatstroke]

Yes, I have a switch, but no router. I'm not about to start messing with the firmware on that thing, I wouldn't even know how. I'm actually pretty sure the switch is fine, my roommate doesn't use WinMX and he never has a problem. Last time I ran Windows update, I got a double left-click menu, how aggravating.

[phalkon30]

Originally posted by arizonaheatstroke
Yes, I have a switch, but no router. I'm not about to start messing with the firmware on that thing, I wouldn't even know how. I'm actually pretty sure the switch is fine, my roommate doesn't use WinMX and he never has a problem. Last time I ran Windows update, I got a double left-click menu, how aggravating.

wow, how odd.....I've had that problem, but a restart allways solved it (only happened once or twice)

if you dont want to mess with the firmware, thats completely understandable, you can ruin it if it doesnt upgrade correct

I'm out of ideas, hopefully skorch will get here in the next day or two :)

[arizonaheatstroke]

When I got the double left-click menu, it was permanent. The only way around it was to write a new file for Windows and put it into place. I don't fuck with that shit, man. If it's not plug-n-play, I say no way!:mellow

[mr-g]

That MAY be your problem.A couple years ago I installed a Windows update and it wiped out most of my start menu.If you haven't reformatted your drive since then that could be the problem.Not saying it is, just a suggestion.

[lavache2004]

How did you fix this problem? Thanks

[☼Sph!nX☼]

Networks in all parts of the world can be very picky... There could be a lot of extra traffic between you and the person you are trying to download from which will slow you and many others down. This can (most of the time) not be helped. The best advice i can offer is one of three things:
1. Find another user/Network that has the file you want.
2. Re-Route your connection(s) through a different isp or through different networks.
3. Reinstall WinMX to be sure you did not download a bug. Sometimes, on rare occasion .exe, .zip and other executable files attract viruses, and bugs.

Hope this helps.

:shy Have a Nice Day!

[MikeHunt]

..another angle to consider,, you said you had an 'always on cable connection'.
Any of your neighbors recently get cable? That would reduce your bandwidth and contribute to some of your problems.
Also consider that someone(a neighbor) could be tapping into your line.
You might want another program besides WinMx...to see if the problems or symptoms change.

[isus]

a lot of people around me have cable, but i still get ~2x the speeds i am supposed to be getting.

[MikeHunt]

@ Isus... perhaps the people around you have a different carrier or are on a different hub.
Or you have a great location in relation to the cable providers equipment.

Think of bandwith available on your cable 'hub' as a whole pie.
Right now you may be getting a generous portion of the pie because you could be sharing the available bandwidth with , say 3 other people.
Each getting 1/4 of the 'pie'.
Everything is great ...everybody happy.. until...your provider adds 2 more customers to your hub. (which they try and do to save money and avoid costly equipment upgrades)
Now the pie is split and instead of getting 1/4 of the signal... you get 1/6th.
Yet, you still pay the same for service every month.
It's part of the old ..Cable vs. DSL argument.
Cable can be faster than DSL and frequently is...however with DSL you are direct to the link and don't share a 'hub' with anyone...so your service bandwidth level dosn't fluctuate and won't be affected like I describe above.
Many people have had the above scenerio happen to them.
It's a common tale and lament.
Enjoy your current cable situation while it lasts.... fingers crossed.

[isus]

nope, everybody i know around me is on the same 'hub'. my guess is that even though cable is so popular, we (as a town) are still too small to use much of the available bandwidth :-P

[shawners]

hey arizonaheaststroke.
When i installed a DSL on my pc, i had to take out my 56k modem, and i had windows 98se. Put the NIC card where the modem was. ITs something to do with IRQ or designated memory slots or something. It worked great after that.

[shawners]

oh yeah, PRIvate message me with the songs of files, And i do my best to get them for you if i have them, or i will check all available resources=)

[shawners]

nope, everybody i know around me is on the same 'hub'. my guess is that even though cable is so popular, we (as a town) are still too small to use much of the available bandwidth :-P
'Maybe isus isnt sharing like isus should be :P~

[stealthspy]

99% of the time it's the settings. I haven't used WINMX in a while, but I'm pretty sure there are settings for connections in there. You need to turn them way down (300-400 MAX connections or less).

[wonderboy2005]

oh no! the zombie threads are rising from the dead!

did any of you look at the dates of this thread? it was started nearly 11 months ago. then again a month ago, and finally present. let the thread die in peace.

[Captain Lemming]

As mentioned before, a primary is in all likely-hood what the problem is. I had a very similar problem with MX, and I have been using it since day one. It seems that on a primary, all search requests, and secondary log ons are filtered through your machine (or rather your node) which is connected as a primary. Your primary then hands off the requests to all the secondaries which are connected via your primary. At some point in time, collisions and bottlenecks are bound to drag you (the primary) down. A cable/ DSL connection can only handle so much, then it will die out. It's kind of like over-stimulating your cat- it'll run like hell for the first hour or so, then bunk right out.
The second I switched over to a secondary connection, all the problems stopped. Another trick is to alternate your ports frequently. It could (slim, but not impossible) be your ISP closing the door on you.
My .02