Who will win the 2008 US Presidential Election?

[El Comandante]

Well folks, less than 100 days to go and the campaign is heating up. I was surprised that McCain went negative so early on by comparing Obama to Paris Hilton and Britney Spears. Although I won't vote for McCain, I respect him and I actually thought he would run a clean campaign... I was wrong.

I encourage everyone from outside the US to throw in your two cents. It's interesting how people in other countries are excited over an Obama presidency. I saw a German on TV the other day discussing Obama like he was going to change the world. I have my doubts. It does show, however, how people all over the world are longing for a change of direction or some inspiration.

Anyway, let the countdown begin.... T minus 95 days ......

[Feather]

Who ever it is we are fucked. None of the choices are worth a shit.

[mungopw]

totally agree with feather...nobody is going to win this election, its going to be who gets beat up the most loses. I was going to vote for obama but then i thought about his work as a senator a perfect place to show what hes about hes done nothing to bring GWB up on war crimes or impeachment at the least. obama is worse than Mcain atleast Mcain is a little upfront where he stands....how do you know when a politician is lying? there lips are moving!!

[HelenaP]

Um...voted.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Pole! Voted! I'm really SURPRISED! [thats my sarcasm again]

[Malakai1911]

If you want to follow the latest and greatest predictions, check out FiveThirtyEight (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/) (fivethirtyeight.com).

I prefer to use the fivethirtyeight model, cause poblano is a god when it comes to statistical analysis.

And if you want to see where people are putting their money, the Intrade Prediction Markets (http://www.intrade.com/) (intrade.com) are handy.

Obama looks to be favored at about 2/3 to win.

[Feather]

You forgot.....
Charles Jay - Boston Tea Party
Chuck Baldwin - Constitution Party
Gene Amondson - Prohibition Party
Ted Weill - Reform Party
Gloria La Riva - Party for Socialism and Liberation
Brian Moore - Socialist Party USA
Róger Calero - Socialist Workers Party
Alan Keyes - Independents

[Signa]

Who ever it is we are fucked. None of the choices are worth a shit.

i pretty much came here to post this. It's quite infuriating watching the american people eat up each election as if they really have a choice about the candidates. puff daddy's "Vote or Die" campaign last election just shows how bad things are getting.

[gost]

i pretty much came here to post this. It's quite infuriating watching the american people eat up each election as if they really have a choice about the candidates. puff daddy's "Vote or Die" campaign last election just shows how bad things are getting.

i agree its never good to talk politics, aka chill

[El Comandante]

i pretty much came here to post this. It's quite infuriating watching the american people eat up each election as if they really have a choice about the candidates. puff daddy's "Vote or Die" campaign last election just shows how bad things are getting.

Apparently the two main proponents of the "Vote or Die" campaign did not vote or even register to vote in the election (Puff and 50 Cent). 50 b/c he is a felon.

As far as choice (or the illusion of chioce) is concerned, I recognize the existing de facto the two party system has tremendous flaws. We have a Democratic Party that has few ideas except being anti-Republican and a Republican Party that is in serious ideological disarray. The extremes of the two parties have taken precedence over the vast majority of Americans. I've heard each party's base voters represent only about twenty percent of the electorate, leaving the vast center without a party or candidate that reflects their views.

It will be a while before third parties and independents gain a foothold and flourish as they do in some in some European countries. Before this ever happens we will have to break the hold that special interests and corporations have over our government. IMHO: this administration has basically championed corporate interests over the welfare of the American people.

@ Feather: I only had 5 slots.... maybe should have included "other"...

[Signa]

i just heard that ludacris just made a pro-obama song, saying that he is destined to win.

i seriously hope all 3 canadates die unexpectedly before the election so that none of us has to suffer their reign. its the only way we wont have them in office at this point. Id almost want to stick with bush with the way things are headed. the devil you know i guess.

[Mels_Smileys45]

i just heard that ludacris just made a pro-obama song.

I wonder what motivated him to support Bama? Where was his Al Gore song?

[mailrachit]

i want obama to win but i think that McCain will win

[evilmegaman]

Ralph nader is going to win this election





:P

[DigitalJunkie]

CJ, you're welcome to crash the party anytime! :)

[Signa]

now that your legal and binding
vote for me
ty
i WOULD vote for you over any politician. at least if you fuck us all over its because you just suck at your job and not because you had other interest in mind. and i dont even know you.

[El Comandante]

Paris Hilton's mom takes offense at McCain's humor

Kathy Hilton criticized John McCain for his television ad comparing Barack Obama to daughter Paris after she and her husband donated $4,600 to his presidential campaign.....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397001,00.html

(Simply amazing....)

[Feather]

Welcome to the United States of The Offended

[Mucci Man]

not obama if he does he will just raise taxes
however i will say that mccain dude *erm its spelt wrong*


Taxes are going up no matter who gets elected. Thank GWB.

[drtoker]

eh, i dont like my choices here...
I vote for 'None of the above'

[carpefile]

eh, i dont like my choices here...
I vote for 'None of the above'
Since you like Ron Paul, you ought to throw your vote to Barr. I know he is no Paul, but he's the closest thing running and if (huge if) we can get him in office it'll definitely change the course of our gov toward the Paul revolution.
Besides I just can't stomach the thought of voting for McSame or the Anti-Christ.:devil2

[wapazoid]

i pretty much came here to post this. It's quite infuriating watching the american people eat up each election as if they really have a choice about the candidates. puff daddy's "Vote or Die" campaign last election just shows how bad things are getting.

Damn straight. I don't know what's worse, idiocracy in the form of rap star propaganda, or campaign lemmings that just show up for the free chilli and cornbread. I keep over hearing people that are going to vote for *insert favorite puppet* just because a relative or friend told them to. It gives me flashbacks of Poof Diddy declaring it didn't matter if voters knew the issues... as long as they just picked someone.

[wapazoid]

Paris Hilton's mom takes offense at McCain's humor

Kathy Hilton criticized John McCain for his television ad comparing Barack Obama to daughter Paris after she and her husband donated $4,600 to his presidential campaign.....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397001,00.html

(Simply amazing....)

LOL

A whore is a whore and nothing more. Nothing's going to clean up her daughter's reputation.

[DigitalJunkie]

Now that McCain is going down the road of dirty campaigning, he would also need to clean up his reputation with someone like me! Personally, I feel dirty campaigns doesn't do anyone any good at all. I can't trust anyone, who would do anything for campaigning!!

[El Comandante]

Paris Hilton says she's 'like, totally ready to lead,' in a Web video released in response to John McCain's ad that used her image.

You can't make this stuff up folks.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d

[charlesmelissa]

I would vote for Alan Keyes. I think the winner will not be "The American People" at any rate.

Politicians are like lawyers- you know they are lying when their lips are moving, but they are unlike lawyers because they are lying when their staff is talking also.

[drtoker]

Did no one get my obscure movie reference? I feel old...

[riprat]

not obama if he does he will just raise taxes
however i will say that mccain dude *erm its spelt wrong*

Spelt? What does wheat have to do with all this? :icon_scra


<-------- Bob Barr voter! FTW!

[El Comandante]

Obama picks Joe Biden for VP


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/08/obama_picks_biden.html?hpid=topnews

[shawners]

The white guy will win. So dont fear that obama will make it in office.. Soon as he leads in a state, there be a massive recall and redeclare someone else as the winner. TOo many rednecks and conservatives out there that would blatantly vote for someone white. Just like if Hillary was running for president, no one in the conservative side thinks a women should lead the USA.

[Mels_Smileys45]

The white guy will win. So dont fear that obama will make it in office.. Soon as he leads in a state, there be a massive recall and redeclare someone else as the winner. TOo many rednecks and conservatives out there that would blatantly vote for someone white. Just like if Hillary was running for president, no one in the conservative side thinks a women should lead the USA.


Thats where you are wrong my man. The minority vote is very strong with this one. There will be tons of people vote for him only because of what he looks like. Combine that with the white vote, which is strong too and you get a landslide victory. I think there is only a very small percentage of people who are so racist that they will not vote for a man because he is black but on the flip side there are many who will vote for him because of that reason. (Reverse racism)

I actually like them both so I do not fear either one.

[evilmegaman]

Ralph nader for 2012

[Drew Wilson]

My vote would be for Homer Simpson (http://animatedtv.about.com/od/homersimpson/a/homerpres.htm), but he isn't in the poll :(


* A friend to one, a friend to all. (Except Flanders.)
* There is nothing to fear except fear itself. Oh... and fear of the voices... the constant voices telling me to do things... bad things.
* I promise there will be fewer nuclear disasters with me as your President than with me as your nuclear safety inspector.
* I will fill the pot holes, help the pot heads and eat the pot pies.
* I will put a man on Mars within the decade. That man will be Flanders. And he will not return.
* No big government, just big waist sizes.
* Children are the future. That's why they must be stopped today.
* I will make the trains run on time. On second thought, coal might be better. I will make the trains run on coal.
* I will legalize the hunting of sisters-in-law.
* Repeal all taxes... make Sweden pay for everything.

[evilmegaman]

My vote would be for Homer Simpson (http://animatedtv.about.com/od/homersimpson/a/homerpres.htm), but he isn't in the poll :(


ralph wiggum's a better candidate anyway

[MoonMan]

Yes, yes, we know. Politicians are all bastards, but to me it isn't just about the candidates themselves. It's about whether you want to see a Supreme Court with 9 conservative justices, and whether you want to see Roe v Wade held up or struck down. It's about whether you'd like to see the tax cuts for the wealthy 5% rolled back or perhaps want more cuts; or if you enjoy eating from your 8 kitchen tables while people in Detroit keep losing their homes. Perhaps you'd like to see a couple of decades worth of occupation in Iraq, and a further spread of war with the middle east by invading Iran next.

I can't say Barack Obama will win the election, even if the political winds are behind the Democrats. The absurd and long-lingering racial anxieties in this country, combined with smear campaigns fooling fools into thinking that Obama is Muslim (which just plays, again, into the underlying intolerance which seeps out of the pores of this nation with a stench that the best underarm deodorant would not be able to mask), could have the unfortunate effect of giving the Republicans a landslide victory in the presidential race.

The Republicans could have picked a worse candidate than McCain I suppose. Huckabee comes to mind, as does Guiliani. Personally, I'm going to vote for Obama.

[mfgbypooter]

Obama will not have much impact on the Supreme Court because odds are it'll be one (or more) of the liberal judges that steps down.

So he'll only wind up nominating a replacement, while the real Court dynamics don't really change.

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[El Comandante]

Yes, yes, we know. Politicians are all bastards, but to me it isn't just about the candidates themselves. It's about whether you want to see a Supreme Court with 9 conservative justices, and whether you want to see Roe v Wade held up or struck down. It's about whether you'd like to see the tax cuts for the wealthy 5% rolled back or perhaps want more cuts; or if you enjoy eating from your 8 kitchen tables while people in Detroit keep losing their homes. Perhaps you'd like to see a couple of decades worth of occupation in Iraq, and a further spread of war with the middle east by invading Iran next.


Right on. It's easy to trash politicians. It's hard to make an informed choice and pick between the lesser of evils. There is a lot at stake in this election. I'm not overjoyed with Obama but then again the alternative(s) are disconcerting to say the least.

@ Pooter: you may be right. I'm hoping Scalia chokes on a meatball or something....

[mfgbypooter]

Odds are John Paul Stevens, who is 88 years old, will probably be the first one to cash in.

As for Obama, I am not ready for Jimmy Carter's second term, any more than I'm ready for Bush's third.

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[carpefile]

Not really all that informative, but damn entertaining.
http://www.peteyandpetunia.com/VoteHere/VoteHere.htm

[El Comandante]

McCain is said to choose Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, 44, a self-styled hockey mom for VP


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/story/663046.html

[Potato]

McCain is said to choose Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, 44, a self-styled hockey mom for VP


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/story/663046.html

* blank stare *

[mfgbypooter]

* blank stare *
You've been doing a lot of that here lately.

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[rainbowdemon]

I wonder what motivated him to support Bama? Where was his Al Gore song?

Do you really have to ask?

[Mucci Man]

Palin looks sexy. She can tickle my trunk any time.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Palin looks sexy. She can tickle my trunk any time.


I agree. I may vote for him so I can look at her for four years. I think Big Mac just pulled this one out of the bag. I never saw that one coming. I bet Bama kicked himself in the balls today. If he didnt, the whole Dem party should have. IDIOT!

[El Comandante]

SARAH PALIN’S EXTENSIVE MILITARY EXPERIENCE: From a McCain statement about Sarah Palin: “As the head of Alaska’s National Guard and as the mother of a soldier herself, Gov. Palin understands what it takes to lead our nation and she understands the importance of supporting our troops.”

[mfgbypooter]

Cindy McCain ain't to shabby either.

LINK (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2282058295_b53e927192.jpg)

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[Mels_Smileys45]

So you like sexy Sarah eh? Bama's been slamming her all day. He really doesn't know when to shut the fuck up. Loser.

The one reason I did not want McCain is because all he talks about is more war and plans to ramp up the war in the east. Maybe Sarah can change his mind. I dunno.

I did a 180 on Bama. It seems he really can't make good decisions. He split the entire Dem party because he is stubborn. Way to lose loser!

[Mels_Smileys45]

We need a new pole now too. uh poll

[mfgbypooter]

LMAO, whats fucked up is Sarah has more Military experience than Obama.

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[Mels_Smileys45]

LMAO, whats fucked up is Sarah has more Military experience than Obama.

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I mean really. He popped out of the blue and has the nerve to talk shit all day. I never knew who he was until he started the campaign. I know who he is now, a loser.

Wouldnt it be something if she does such a good job that she makes prez before Hillary? I bet even Hillary wants to kick Obama in the balls

[mfgbypooter]

I bet even Hillary wants to kick Obama in the balls
And I believe she is just man enough to do it too.

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[Mels_Smileys45]

And I believe she is just man enough to do it too.

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Id buy a ticket to see that or some Sarah, Hillary girl on girl action. I really feel sorry for Hillary though. She really should be there instead of Bama IMO. But I loved Bill. He was a man of action.

[mfgbypooter]

She def should be there instead of Biden if nothing else.
It's very possible her and Billy are irrelevant now and may never be anything more than history's has beens.

One thing about Bill. He was nothing if he wasn't spot on.
Spot on Monica's dress that is.

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[El Comandante]

LMAO, whats fucked up is Sarah has more Military experience than Obama.*

This crap about military experience means dick. World War II hero Sen. George McGovern was crushed by Richard Nixon in 1972 and Bob Dole was steam rolled by Bill Clinton in 1996. And who the hell is GWB? John Kerry had bigger stones than John McCain ever had in Vietnam. The dude was out there in the jungle day in and day out ....

Obama may have no military experience ... but maybe what we need is someone with better judgment (I know that is a line out of one of Obama's speeches but WTF.... it's true).... and Hillary.... she is the looser... that much is painfully evident.... she made her power play and now she is gone.... Sarah is a gimmick, one woman is not as good as another... I agree with Pat Buchanan ""I think this is the biggest political gamble, just about, in all of American history."

IMHO it will fail.

[Mels_Smileys45]

John McCain was a POW. That couldnt be fun



Me thinks you think too much with your heart my friend

[El Comandante]

Me thinks you think too much with your heart my friend

What else is there? Look at Edwards..... I really liked him and look at the mess he could have turned out to be. How else can one make sense of all of this bullshit.

[Mels_Smileys45]

I dont like McCains stance on the war but the Dem's were split by the Hillery/Obama fiasco. McCain will pick up many of those votes. I dont see any way around it. Sarah is already comparing herself with Hillary. I'll be watching the polls but Bama is slipping fast over the last week.


{soapbox time}

Looking back on the attack on America, what was the purpose? Their choices were symbolic. Break America economically. Thats just what WE (the U.S.) are doing as we close in on the Trillion dollar war. Yeah, 8 more years of that is gonna be great but Im not sure Bama is the answer anymore. He talks in circles and says nothing at all. Its pissing against the wind.

[Mucci Man]

I heard that John McCain was a POW.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?:drunken_s

[mfgbypooter]

Should McCain win the election and go on to serve only one term we could very well be looking at a woman president in 2012.

Palin vs Hillary now that would be an interesting cat fight.

reow

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[barbanza]

I can't believe you guys are not up in arms, only in America people would think and would vote for the same liers that sent thousands of kids to die for nothing.
A woman that has not experience at all, a guy that his only record he was a POW, that doesn't make him qualify to lead, I think that he is mentaly challenge. Voting is very serious, America's debt is huge, the goverment is the bigest ever and our freedoms are shrinking, jobs are non existent.
Why is it that nobody keeps those corrupt republicans in Washington accountable?

[mfgbypooter]

I can't believe you guys are not up in arms, only in America people would think and would vote for the same liers that sent thousands of kids to die for nothing.


Which "liers" did this?

I remember it like it was yesterday.

"Hey, Hey, LBJ, How many boys did you kill today?"

By March 1965, 100,000 U.S. ground troops in Vietnam; by December of that year, 180,000; by 1967, one-half million.

More than 50,000 U.S. soldiers were killed in battle in Vietnam; perhaps as many as 4 million Vietnamese died or were wounded-roughly 10% of the entire population.

For what?

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Come on all of you big strong men
Uncle Sam needs your help again
he's got himself in a terrible jam
way down yonder in Viet Nam
so put down your books
and pick up a gun we're
gonna have a whole lotta fun

And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for
don't ask me I don't give a damn, next stop is Viet Nam
And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates
ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die

Come on generals, let's move fast
your big chance has come at last
now you can go out and get those reds
cos the only good commie is the one that's dead and
you know that peace can only be won when we've
blown 'em all to kingdom come

Come on wall street don't be slow
why man this war is a go-go
there's plenty good money to be made by
supplying the army with the tools of its trade
let's hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
they drop it on the Viet Cong

Come on mothers throughout the land
pack your boys off to Viet Nam
come on fathers don't hesitate
send your sons off before it's too late
and you can be the first ones on your block
to have your boy come home in a box.

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[Mels_Smileys45]

I heard that John McCain was a POW.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?:drunken_s


He was a POW for six years and severely tortured during that time. He also allowed other prisoners to leave before him and was tortured even worse for that. He is one tough bastard for sure.

[mfgbypooter]

hopefully we'll know who wins Nov 5th but I'm not going to vote in this poll until Dec 30th

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[Mels_Smileys45]

hopefully we'll know who wins Nov 5th but I'm not going to vote in this poll until Dec 30th

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The fix is probably already in. We just go through the motions and they let us think we really did something.

[mfgbypooter]

This poll will close on December 30th, 2008 at 12:41 PM

I'll answer the poll question at 12:40

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[El Comandante]

Obama regains lead in national polls.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/17/opinion/polls/main4456249.shtml?source=mostpop_story

[patrbate]

Here in Finland the general opinion seems to be that Obama should win (that's just based on some talking I've heard and a gut-feeling, no polls or anything). I think he's the best guy too, he's got some pretty smart thoughts there: Barack Obama On The Importance Of A Secular Government (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8502425959359422824&ei=byLTSK_tGYKY2gKE0p3DAg&q=obama+secular&vt=lf)

[Sarah Palin]

Come November, I will join millions of Americans in voting in John S. McCain as the next President of the United States. See you at the polls.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Obama will win the popular vote but FOX news will say McCain won and it will be done.

[El Comandante]

Cheney was right all along! (amazing).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YENbElb5-xY

[Mels_Smileys45]

Who wants to be President of the sinking turd is a better question. The loser will get the most votes in this case.

[El Comandante]

McCain Gives Up on Michigan

"In a major concession, Republican John McCain has abandoned efforts to win Michigan, a Democratic-leaning battleground state the GOP presidential candidate had hoped to capture. Republican officials with knowledge of the strategy said the GOP nominee is removing staff, curtailing advertising and canceling visits to the Midwestern state, which offers 17 electoral votes."

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/710746.html

[El Comandante]

Today's Polls



Gallup Tracking: Obama 50, McCain 42.
Rasmussen Tracking: Obama 52, McCain 44.
Hotline Tracking: Obama 47, McCain 41.
Battleground Tracking: Obama 50, McCain 43.
AVERAGE: Obama 50, McCain 43
Obama +7%

"Barack Obama has moved above 350 electoral votes in the poll of polls estimate for the first time ever. Virginia is supposed to be a firm Red State but we have two polls that each show Obama ahead by double digits."

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/

[Feather]

God helps us all.

[barbanza]

He was a POW for six years and severely tortured during that time. He also allowed other prisoners to leave before him and was tortured even worse for that. He is one tough bastard for sure.

I heard that it was all a lie, I don't know, but if he was tortured he must be suffering post traumatic stresss disorder and dementia, so not good qualities in someone that wants to be president.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Its hard to take anything away from McCains POW status. Many soldiers that where there have testified to his story. As for him being a bit nuts...my father, who use to like McCain has said the same thing as you. I myself fear McCains war perspectives.

I amwondering whats going on with our troops. I havent seen much on the news about them but around here a lot of soldiers are coming home. A LOT! A over the place there has been celebrations for them. What gives?

[patrbate]

Free money, no such thing.

[El Comandante]

McCain down by 10 points among likely voters. Who is sinking faster McCain or the economy?

"Democratic U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama) is leading his Republican rival John McCain 53 percent to 43 percent among likely voters, according to a Washington Post-ABC News opinion poll released on Monday. Sixty-four percent of voters now view Obama favorably, up six percentage points from early September, according to the poll taken after Tuesday night's presidential debate."


http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSN1334133220081013

[pizzo]

nobody of them

[Mels_Smileys45]

McCain down by 10 points among likely voters. Who is sinking faster McCain or the economy?

"Democratic U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/barackobama) is leading his Republican rival John McCain 53 percent to 43 percent among likely voters, according to a Washington Post-ABC News opinion poll released on Monday. Sixty-four percent of voters now view Obama favorably, up six percentage points from early September, according to the poll taken after Tuesday night's presidential debate."


http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSN1334133220081013


Watching McCain giving a speech the other day I almost felt sorry for him. When he had to stop the irate crowd and tell them to calm down because Obama is a good man he actually got booed. lol

How can these people be so full of hate? I don't think either man is a bad person. The only thing I do not like about McCain is his attitude about war. I don't want any part of MORE war. Neither candidate is going to "solve" the economic troubles we have now. Its going to take more than one man to change the way America lives and buys.


Stop the hate people!

The only reason I can think of as to why the Republican party has become such hate mongers is because their party has become the butt of so many jokes and they blame the Democrates for this. Truth be told, the jokes stem from how McCain and his campaign managers have handled this media joke fest. McCains gamble when he chose an unknown woman in hopes it would "steal" the Hilary vote. The first HUGE mistake. At first it seemed like a great stunt but then America got to know Palin and that backfired.

Now what other reason would McCain of had to select Palin? If you say its because she is so Mavericky well gosh! Why didn't I think of that! She couldnt of even been last on anyones long list of choices ...until Clinton was brushed aside and McCain thought a woman would garner some whoha votes. Gambling with a Presidential election with grandstand stunts is irresponsible and foolhardy. Then he went off to Washinton to save the economy....


McCains Campaign managers should be shot too. This has been one of the worst run shows Ive ever seen. The race really should have been tighter than it is right now.


IMO Hilary Clinton should be the one winning right now. She could beat the pant suits off of both these characters and is far brighter than either one of these guys. Maybe America should write her in and leave these two turds in the bowl to marinade.

[evilmegaman]

Watching McCain giving a speech the other day I almost felt sorry for him. When he had to stop the irate crowd and tell them to calm down because Obama is a good man he actually got booed. lol

How can these people be so full of hate? I don't think either man is a bad person. The only thing I do not like about McCain is his attitude about war. I don't want any part of MORE war. Neither candidate is going to "solve" the economic troubles we have now. Its going to take more than one man to change the way America lives and buys.


Stop the hate people!

The only reason I can think of as to why the Republican party has become such hate mongers is because their party has become the butt of so many jokes and they blame the Democrates for this. Truth be told, the jokes stem from how McCain and his campaign managers have handled this media joke fest. McCains gamble when he chose an unknown woman in hopes it would "steal" the Hilary vote. The first HUGE mistake. At first it seemed like a great stunt but then America got to know Palin and that backfired.

Now what other reason would McCain of had to select Palin? If you say its because she is so Mavericky well gosh! Why didn't I think of that! She couldnt of even been last on anyones long list of choices ...until Clinton was brushed aside and McCain thought a woman would garner some whoha votes. Gambling with a Presidential election with grandstand stunts is irresponsible and foolhardy. Then he went off to Washinton to save the economy....


McCains Campaign managers should be shot too. This has been one of the worst run shows Ive ever seen. The race really should have been tighter than it is right now.


IMO Hilary Clinton should be the one winning right now. She could beat the pant suits off of both these characters and is far brighter than either one of these guys. Maybe America should write her in and leave these two turds in the bowl to marinade.


I don't recall obama saying he was gonna pull the troops out of warzones. just out of Iraq.

don't quote me on that, but from what I've seen him say I haven't heard him say anything about ending war or some sort of thing like that. just leaving iraq. and moving troops elsewhere (afghanistan sounded like)

but that's what I recall not necessarily me being positive on that.

[Mels_Smileys45]

I don't recall obama saying he was gonna pull the troops out of warzones. just out of Iraq.

don't quote me on that, but from what I've seen him say I haven't heard him say anything about ending war or some sort of thing like that. just leaving iraq. and moving troops elsewhere (afghanistan sounded like)

but that's what I recall not necessarily me being positive on that.


Obama has stated he does want to set a time line to pull out of Iraq while McCain wants to keep it occupied indefinitely, thats a terrible idea. We might as well claim Iraq and go to war the the rest of the middle East. Which BTW, is what McCain has stated he wants to do. How McCain thinks its a bad idea to turn Iraq back over to the Iraqi people blows my mind. That has always been the claimed objective. Can you tell me why we are still there right now? McCain wants to invade more territories and that I can't support. He supports more war with more countries around the world because thats all he has known his entire life. We do not need another president who is a war monger. The world know it and most of America knows this too.


If you want more war for oil vote McCain. If you want to pull our money out of the middle East and take care of home vote Obama

[carpefile]

And if you want sound money policy to save the economy and to end empire building and policing the world, write in Ron Paul.

[Excrement_Cranium]

My hardcore conservative step father is voting, yup, you guessed it...












































Ron Paul.

[Mels_Smileys45]

And if you want sound money policy to save the economy and to end empire building and policing the world, write in Ron Paul.

I would actually vote for Ron, most certainly. I like him a lot.

[evilmegaman]

My hardcore conservative step father is voting, yup, you guessed it...












































Ron Paul.



If you're hardcore conservative I don't see why you wouldn't vote ron paul.


:P

[El Comandante]

Colin Powell Endorses Obama
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27265369/



WASHINGTON - Former Secretary of State Colin Powell endorsed Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., for president on Sunday, criticizing his own Republican Party for what he called its narrow focus on irrelevant personal attacks over a serious approach to challenges he called unprecedented.

Powell, who for many years was considered the most likely candidate to become the first African-American president, said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that he was not supporting Obama because of his race. He said he had watched both Obama and his Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, for many months and thought “either one of them would be a good president.”

[wtxwm]

None of the above thank you.

I'm voting for the guy that Ron Paul has endorsed. The Constitution Party Candidate Chuck Baldwin

I voted Constitution Party already once back in 2004 after George the W lied to me. I'm a gonna do it again. 'Cause voting for anybody else is a wasted vote for the status quo. Vote for either Trotsky or Lenin, you're still voting for a socialist.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Im willing to bet he wont win. Its going to be a land slide victory for the new Messiah!

[wtxwm]

Yeah, but in my book, who's gonna really count the guy that the majority of Americans voted for; that still get their worldview from the nightly telly-vision noose? 'Not I,' said the little red hen.

If Chuck gets anything close to 1% I'll be quite happy that I have affected the process in this election cycle. I and my candidate win hands down, by saying that we don't believe the "mainstream" horse pucky and I'm not gonna let it get me down either and keep me from voting my discontented concience.

http://www.factcheck.org/ on both of the dang liars. Viva La Revolucion! ...or R3VOLution as the case my be. I aint gonna vote for Che or the antichrist or Trotsky or Lenin. Nope, I aint a gonna do it. No way Jose. I not gonna vote for a liar, and I'm not gonna not vote either.

[Mels_Smileys45]

If it goes like it did last time FOX news is going to decide who wins so our votes don't count anyway.

[wtxwm]

It's not who votes that counts. It's who counts the votes.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-dieboldstalin.htm

[Mrs Robinson]

Big media is going to be the winner of this election.

Both McCain and Obama together have spent over a billion dollars.

It's been a bonanza for those fat balding media owners as they have gathered in those dollars with still more to come.

With the state of the banks media tycoons are probably finding it difficult to sleep at night because of mountains of cash under their mattresses making their beds as lumpy as Santas sack at Xmas.

Coincidence, the poll graph from Ipsos on BBC website has the shape of a fish the ancient symbol for Christianity. ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/629/629/7360265.stm ). Subliminal message there.

[El Comandante]

It's not who votes that counts. It's who counts the votes.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-dieboldstalin.htm

Indeed.......

[sheriff 01]

i hope obama wins because if Mccain does the US will be in a world of hurt!

[wtxwm]

Timeless fatherly advice

[Mels_Smileys45]

i hope obama wins because if Mccain does the US will be in a world of hurt!


And the U.S. will hurt the world. Anyone notice how much anger there is among the citizens here? I know we're a bunch of dumb panicky animals who are easily manipulated by big brother into fearing there is a terrorist around every 7/11 but...GOD DAMN! Isn't this the "peace generation" running things now? People need to calm down with the hate and "evil" label babble bullshit.


BTW: Obama will win.

[MoonMan]

This article fantastically illustrates the fear and cynicism that I, and probably a lot of other lefties, am feeling from this election cycle:

Democrats' gloom deepens

The Democrats are poised on the brink of victory. And they cannot stand it. The news is too good. Something has to go wrong.

On Saturday, Charlie Cook, an independent analyst and author of the Cook Report, wrote: “This election isn’t over, but it is looking very bad for Republicans — and seems to be getting worse.”

This plunged the Democrats into a deep gloom. Good news is always bad news for them.

On Monday, CNN’s John King announced: “Most top [people] in the McCain campaign now believe New Mexico and Iowa are gone, that Barack Obama will win New Mexico and Iowa. They are now off the dream list of the McCain campaign. More interestingly, most top people inside the McCain campaign think Colorado is gone.”

Democratic pessimism deepened when, that same day, Chris Cillizza and Shailagh Murray wrote in The Washington Post: “In the 13 battleground states that require voters to register by party, there are nearly 1.5 million more Democrats than at this time in 2004. The comparable Republican numbers, by contrast, have fallen by 61,000 during that time. Registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans by more than 3.3 million in these same 13 battleground states, roughly double the edge — 1.8 million — they enjoyed over the GOP four years ago.”

Can it get worse for the Democrats? Yes! On Tuesday, The Associated Press wrote: “Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama spent $87.5 million last month and began October with nearly $134 million in the bank. The numbers illustrate his vast financial advantage over John McCain, his Republican rival, in the final stretch of the contest. McCain ended September with $47 million in the bank.”

The story went on to note that Obama “spent $65 million in advertising in September to McCain’s $22 million. In October, he has outspent McCain 4-to-1 in advertising.”

Awful news. Obama has a money problem. And you know what it is? He might run out of time to spend all the money he has! Election Day might come and go before Obama can spend the $5 million a day he is now raising. (If this does happen, I suggest he borrow a page from Oprah and buy everyone in America a Pontiac. Just as a gesture.)

Obama himself has reacted to the dismal drumbeat of good news. At a fundraising concert in Manhattan last Thursday featuring Bruce Springsteen and Billy Joel, Obama got up and said: “Don’t underestimate the capacity of Democrats to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Don’t underestimate our ability to screw it up.”

Which is the prevailing mood in the top echelons of the Democratic Party right now. The McCain campaign cannot possibly be as hapless as it looks, party leaders feel. It is lulling the Democrats into complacency. The Republicans have to have an October surprise, because the Republicans always have an October surprise.

Besides, the robocalls could work. Never underestimate the power of the robocalls. Because people really like getting robocalls, right?

You are at home, it is dinnertime (which is when they call you because they figure you are at home then), and you are either trying to relax or get the kids fed, and the phone rings and it is this recorded voice saying: “I’m calling for John McCain and the RNC because you need to know that Barack Obama has worked with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers.”

And does that make you feel more or less positive about John McCain? Does it persuade you that McCain has a plan to save the economy? Or to help you pay your mortgage? Or that he has a steady hand on the tiller?

For the robocalls to be effective, the Republicans would need Bill Ayers to plant bombs today and not when Barack Obama was 8 years old. They need Ayers to plant bombs in key states right now with stickers on them that say: “I am Barack Obama, and I endorse this bomb.”

But McCain may have found his October surprise after all. In Bensalem, Pa., on Tuesday, McCain said: “Now, I’m not dumb enough to get mixed up in a World Series between swing states. But I think I may have detected a little pattern with Sen. Obama. It’s pretty simple, really. When he’s campaigning in Philadelphia, he roots for the Phillies, and when he’s campaigning in Tampa Bay, he ‘shows love’ to the Rays.”

And rumors are now flying that McCain has proof that when Obama was in the second grade he once ate paste.

The Democrats are fearful of all this. The Democrats are always fearful.

“We have been on the precipice of victory before,” Dan Pfeiffer, an Obama spokesman, told me. “You have never seen a more superstitious campaign than ours. We do not talk about victory.”

Talk about it, no. Plan for it, yes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081022/pl_politico/14800;_ylt=Ak_1W7sSz.bi74hUGjOdqb1snwcF

[El Comandante]

Which is the prevailing mood in the top echelons of the Democratic Party right now. The McCain campaign cannot possibly be as hapless as it looks, party leaders feel. It is lulling the Democrats into complacency. The Republicans have to have an October surprise, because the Republicans always have an October surprise.

I was getting kinda complacent myself when the race was 13 points apart last week. Now it seems to be tightening again. I said it before and I think it's still true.... racism is the big X factor. If Obama was white McCain would be 25 points down. It has taken 5 dollar gas, an economic implosion, an incompetent Presdent and two unpopular wars to put McCain down 5 points. 5 POINTS!! It seems like people just need an excuse not to vote for Obama. Thankfully he has not given them many.

The Obama campaign is masterful. It's cold, calculating and efficient. It has a tremendous traditional and non-traditional fund raising engine. They got 150 million this last month and they are still collecting money like there's no tomorrow. The plan is to bury McCain and bury a whole lot of Republican Congressman along the way. Overwhelming force... overkill..... decisive annihilation.....were going to skin those Republicans like a dead moose..... shoot them from helicopters..... (I'm going to give Obama another $50 bucks right now)....

[YWD67]

For the last hour on FOX I watched Neil Cavuto try to put a spin on the 500+ point drop on the Dow. I heard everything from that there was only so many shares traded, to the dollars is not doing bad.
The mullti billion dollar bail out pushed by Bush has done nothing but line the pockets of the rich and no one else.
The economy is still falling fast with no end in site.

This was the seventh worst day drop in the stock markets history.
At the ending bell, did Fox go to the market floor to talk to people? No instead they went to radio dork Imus to listen to him and his view on the election.
Nothing like trying to misdirect.
don webb you can try and blame everyone that you want to for the failing economy from congress to Biden and Obama.
The fact is still the same. In the last eight years business has had nothing but a free hand with no oversight or control by the current Bush administration in who business did business.
It was not B Frank or anyone else that got us here.
If that was the case then why in the hell does the RNC or you prop up G.W. as the savior of the country? Do know why, it is because you can't, because Bush has one of if not the worst approval rating in history.
I watched McCain on MSNBC being interviewed with his tie off trying to portray himself as average Joe Plumber.
Oh by the way, I have not heard word one from you on the fact the undecided Joe P. had donated $100 to the McCain election campaign long before he talked to Obama.

Nor has FOX or you made any comment on the Republican party buying Palin and her family $150,000 in clothes from Nyman Markus and Sax and other high end dollars stores.
All I have heard is that Palin is going to donate the high end clothing to charity.
I don't care if she gives it to me. Her family and her are using the items for personal use and that is wrong.

Stop the BS and just face the fact that the right has run out of lines of crap and have no idea of what in the hell is going on.

[Ashrapi]

Of course, Obama will win this election easily.
But, can he fight this critical economic situation?

[Mels_Smileys45]

For the last hour on FOX I watched Neil Cavuto try to put a spin on the 500+ point drop on the Dow. I heard everything from that there was only so many shares traded, to the dollars is not doing bad.
The mullti billion dollar bail out pushed by Bush has done nothing but line the pockets of the rich and no one else.
The economy is still falling fast with no end in site


He is trying to save face. The whole time this has been going on he said its just a blip but as it keeps getting worse he looks like a dick.

[El Comandante]

Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan endorses Obama

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/23/mcclellan_endorses_obama.html?hpid=topnews

[Feather]

I hope GW declares martial law and kills off the election. and invades every country that has oil. then floats all decenter into lake huron drops a bunker buster in the middle and flushes that toilet.

[El Comandante]

I hope GW declares martial law and kills off the election. and invades every country that has oil. then floats all decenter into lake huron drops a bunker buster in the middle and flushes that toilet.

Don't give him any ideas. I'm still expecting him to let Osama out of the White House basement.

[wtxwm]

"We have met the enemy... and he is us"
http://www.igopogo.com/we_have_met.htm

Yeah, I knew they were going to propagate some kind of crisis, in honor of the up and coming election. Still waiting for the other shoe to drop tho'.

A very nice staging of a socialist global financial consolidation for sure. Especially right after they finished changing the entire accounting system of every bank, credit union, broker and public financial institution with the implementation of SarBox. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes-Oxley_Act

Run a black guy and see what kind of whackos crawl out from under their respective rocks to threaten him with a Martin Luther, to leave us Biden vs. a crazy old white guy who would just as soon as push the dreaded little red button of the Mutually Assured Destruction football as let Sarah do it for him.

[A_mber]

I am assuming Obama is going to win, considering 90% of African Americans are backing him and 75% of those normally don't vote or they registered this year.

I am for Obama btw.

[ROMANTICGUY50]

I am assuming Obama is going to win, considering 90% of African Americans are backing him and 75% of those normally don't vote or they registered this year.

I am for Obama btw.
First Welcome to ZeroPaid
Second-I Support Obama as well

[wtxwm]

Welcom _ e a _ mber Ever check out Obama's former pastor, the very right (IMHO) Rev. Right? This dude shoots it straight, no wonder the main-stream me_dia had to crucify 'im. He's down with the whole AIDS as biowarfare against black folks thing, 9-11 as just another false flag intelligence op and all kinds of stuff like that.

My hope is that even tho' Obama had to distance 'imself from 'im that secretly in his heart of hearts 'e's still with 'im. O' course the NWO folks at the CFR think 'e's the next best thing since sliced bread. They seem to think Obama's their "boy," sure hope he can prove 'em all wrong when he gets elected after the up and coming 'Publicans October surprise fails to amaze. Which is why the Constitution Party & Chuck Baldwin appeals to me. I'm opting out from the whole trip of 'with just more taxes or more bombs' being our only viable solutions.
__________________________________
"The problems in the world today are so enormous they cannot
be solved with the level of thinking that created them."
-- Albert Einstein

[carpefile]

Yeah, I'm voting Baldwin myself, as a surrogate for Paul.
He doesn't have a hope in hell of winning, but at least the vote will count towards ballot access in upcoming elections for the CP.
I was going to write in Paul, but it wouldn't even be counted as a vote that way. This way at least my vote will count for something and my conscience will still be clear.

Plus I'll be able to get one of those nifty "Don't Blame Me - I Voted For Baldwin" bumper stickers.

[Mrs Robinson]

Elections are boring - wouldn't it be great if they were replaced by a TV talent competition like American Idol.

It could be called US idle (due to the slow down/recession/depression) or American President.

It could run over a few months starting with hundreds of candidates who have to do certain tasks like speaking to a large crowd or raising 150 million dollars in a month.

Each week a TV audience could vote someone off via an opinion poll or text message voting.

The candidates should be allowed to make their own adverts to get viewers to vote for them.

When there are two left they should be allowed to have at least three TV debates, each in a different format. To make it more interesting they should be allowed to pick a mate who can make stupid comments add a comedy element.

They should also be allowed to have their wives by their sides (as long as they don't say anything political).

Hang on a second.......they are already doing this :hi

[Mels_Smileys45]

Yeah, I'm voting Baldwin myself, as a surrogate for Paul.
He doesn't have a hope in hell of winning, but at least the vote will count towards ballot access in upcoming elections for the CP.
I was going to write in Paul, but it wouldn't even be counted as a vote that way. This way at least my vote will count for something and my conscience will still be clear.

Plus I'll be able to get one of those nifty "Don't Blame Me - I Voted For Baldwin" bumper stickers.


I want Ron Paul for president so bad it hurts. I wish he would dump the Republican party that hates him so much because he will never get a chance at office under those melon heads.

[Nuke Baby]

McCain is going to win. Not to sound cliche, but the media IS in the tank for Obama. They WANT him to win. They WANT Americans to THINK his is winning by a landslide. They are pseudo-intellectual socialists who WANT a race war and riots in the streets when Obama loses because that is where their advertising $$$ comes from...ratings.

The media (including leftist bloggers) is comprised of "metrosexuals" who have no clue what goes on in middle-America on a day-to-day basis. They have no qualms about paying $13 for a cup latte, and judge people by their speech, clothing, and religion...not their inner qualities. They have duped many, but not all, into believing that Obama is the Messiah.

To be blunt, social engineering does not work. It actually caused our current economic dilemma. We cannot go on giving to those who refuse to work and cannot assume responsibility for their actions. They must give something back in return.

If you are seriously for Obama because of his stand on a particular issue, that's one thing. If you have nothing better to say than "He's for change"...well, you can go fuck yourself while you are doing the patriotic thing...paying higher taxes. :devil2

And who's the dipshit who voted for Cynthia McKinney?

A "clear conscience" vote is a colossal fucking waste of time.

[thelastfreeman]

@mels
I was considering voting for Paul in the TX primaries but eventually went for Obama. The man definitely has better ideas but lacks the support. What I find disappointing is that my peers would tune him out when he speaks because he goes into long explanations to explain his point rather than cite talking points. That is what this system has degraded to.

@nuke
thank you for your unbiased opinion, "nuke" baby.y But the media is neither in the tank for Obama or McCain. They are first and foremost a ratings and profit based network so they will back whoever gets the most attention. Why do you think Fox News gets viewers with all the hateful crap they spew? No one actually believes it(except Fundies). Like the class clown, they tune in just to see what he'll say next.

[Mels_Smileys45]

McCain is going to win. Not to sound cliche, but the media IS in the tank for Obama. They WANT him to win. They WANT Americans to THINK his is winning by a landslide. They are pseudo-intellectual socialists who WANT a race war and riots in the streets when Obama loses because that is where their advertising $$$ comes from...ratings.

The media (including leftist bloggers) is comprised of "metrosexuals" who have no clue what goes on in middle-America on a day-to-day basis. They have no qualms about paying $13 for a cup latte, and judge people by their speech, clothing, and religion...not their inner qualities. They have duped many, but not all, into believing that Obama is the Messiah.

To be blunt, social engineering does not work. It actually caused our current economic dilemma. We cannot go on giving to those who refuse to work and cannot assume responsibility for their actions. They must give something back in return.

If you are seriously for Obama because of his stand on a particular issue, that's one thing. If you have nothing better to say than "He's for change"...well, you can go fuck yourself while you are doing the patriotic thing...paying higher taxes. :devil2

And who's the dipshit who voted for Cynthia McKinney?

A "clear conscience" vote is a colossal fucking waste of time.



Man, I would be willing to bet the farm youre wrong. It won't be long before you will know youre wrong. Look into the early voting states and the largest newly registered DEMOCRATS in history. Look into the smallest registered voting Republican base is a very long time. The Repubes are a dying breed because the people are tired of them taking the shirts off their backs. I don't know if Obama can fix this mess but I do feel McCain will make it worse by attacking the rest of the world with our military.


Its not going to be a landslide, its gonna be a massacre!

[Nuke Baby]

@nuke
thank you for your unbiased opinion, "nuke" baby.y But the media is neither in the tank for Obama or McCain. They are first and foremost a ratings and profit based network so they will back whoever gets the most attention. Why do you think Fox News gets viewers with all the hateful crap they spew? No one actually believes it(except Fundies). Like the class clown, they tune in just to see what he'll say next.

They are in the tank for Obama and you are living in fairyland.

Oh, I'm sorry, we aren't allowed free speech on this board? I thought the left was pro-1st amendment rights? Am I mistaken? If you don't like my biased opinion, too bad.

I suppose Olbermann DOESN'T spew hateful crap.

I don't own a gun, I don't own a bible. But if I did, I pray to God for a steady hand and an accurate shot....at the 1st violent protester that crossed my path.

[Nuke Baby]

Man, I would be willing to bet the farm youre wrong. It won't be long before you will know youre wrong. Look into the early voting states and the largest newly registered DEMOCRATS in history. Look into the smallest registered voting Republican base is a very long time. The Repubes are a dying breed because the people are tired of them taking the shirts off their backs. I don't know if Obama can fix this mess but I do feel McCain will make it worse by attacking the rest of the world with our military.


Its not going to be a landslide, its gonna be a massacre!

1st of all...I'm an independent.

2nd...I'm sick of celebrities who have less education and do less work than me (while making repulsive amounts of $$$) telling me how to think, act, and vote.

3rd...How many of those new democrats are actual duplicate registrants courtesy of ACORN?

[thelastfreeman]

They are in the tank for Obama and you are living in fairyland.

Oh, I'm sorry, we aren't allowed free speech on this board? I thought the left was pro-1st amendment rights? Am I mistaken? If you don't like my biased opinion, too bad.

I suppose Olbermann DOESN'T spew hateful crap.

I don't own a gun, I don't own a bible. But if I did, I pray to God for a steady hand and an accurate shot....at the 1st violent protester that crossed my path.

There is a difference between a clashing of ideas and a stifling. You can say whatever you want, no matter how biased, and if you take a look around the lounge you'll see exactly what I mean.

Olbermann can be critical and rude at a lot of times, but he develops his ideas in a cogent manner. O'Reilly does this to some degree but I feel at times, both he and especially Sean Hannity(who doesn't even pretend to be fair and balanced) reduces to shouting down their left wing guests for lack of a better argument.

[Forevablazin]

Go Barack Obama!!! That Paylon chick looks like a HO!!

[Mels_Smileys45]

They are in the tank for Obama and you are living in fairyland.

Oh, I'm sorry, we aren't allowed free speech on this board? I thought the left was pro-1st amendment rights? Am I mistaken? If you don't like my biased opinion, too bad.

I suppose Olbermann DOESN'T spew hateful crap.

I don't own a gun, I don't own a bible. But if I did, I pray to God for a steady hand and an accurate shot....at the 1st violent protester that crossed my path.



In both your follow up posts you seem to be filling in some imaginary blanks. No one said you can't say anything. Two people offered up a different opinion. Thats all. If you don't like that... too bad.




1st of all...I'm an independent.

2nd...I'm sick of celebrities who have less education and do less work than me (while making repulsive amounts of $$$) telling me how to think, act, and vote.

3rd...How many of those new democrats are actual duplicate registrants courtesy of ACORN?

1. No one said anything about you personally

2. So some celeb has called you up and told you how to think? You must be an important person! They are allowed an opinion just like you or I.

3. I don't know, do you? Check the latest out comes at the early voting states. Even if half the amount of newly registered Demo's turned ass up it would still be enough to cream McCain.




Why are you flying off the handle here? If you can't be rational then politics are not your forte.

[A_mber]

Man, I would be willing to bet the farm youre wrong. It won't be long before you will know youre wrong. Look into the early voting states and the largest newly registered DEMOCRATS in history. Look into the smallest registered voting Republican base is a very long time. The Repubes are a dying breed because the people are tired of them taking the shirts off their backs. I don't know if Obama can fix this mess but I do feel McCain will make it worse by attacking the rest of the world with our military.


Its not going to be a landslide, its gonna be a massacre!



Agreed, what people fail to see is that a majority of young Americans don't think it'll do them any good to vote. So to put someone in there that can "relate" is going to KILL the other sides. I think Obama is going to take it, without a shadow of a doubt. I'm personally sick of our anti-America myself.

[MoonMan]

Because of the restrictions on Southern states since (mostly) the end of Jim Crow, the Federal Government monitored and recorded all voting data for elections to prevent voter suppression, illegal redistricting, etc. This has given us a fascinating look at early voting in places like Georgia, where they have already broken their own record from 2004 in number of ballots sent in. And African-American voters in particular, if they are any indication of how it will play out for the black vote nationwide, have already confirmed predictions after the primaries that they are indeed going to turn out in record shattering numbers.

As a history major now in school, this election has proved extremely interesting for me when comparing it to how much the American public has evolved over the last couple of decades. I don't believe so much in the bradley factor anymore. There is most definitely a margin that may never go away, and might widen with less likable non-white candidates, but I think it's not much of a factor right now.

[wtxwm]

Ah yes, Ron Paul. Nice guy, got to meet him in Ann Arbor MI, shake his hand and thank him. Asked him to, 'just keep telling the truth, it has to come out.' That's what he's still doing thankfully with the whole Campaign For Liberty deal. ... and folks like Sen. Chuck Hagel

"I took an oath of office to the Constitution. I didn't take an oath of office to my party or to my president."
-- Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel

We need to keep track of folks like this and what they are up to, no matter who wins the current popularity contest. O-bomber? He's probably gonna do it, unless the Dem's can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as they say. With all the millions in the coffers and the guy who got Bush elected last time working for them now, the spin machine will be certain to produce a beautiful oblivion.

Besides the whole nanny state mentality funded by more and more taxes on a shrinking tax base and the socialist baggage that all Democrats are required to spout, yes I think Obama is a pretty good guy. I really do like him. In many respects he represents an opportunity for genuine progress. The problem is that not all things called progress are necessarily beneficial for life or liberty.

Anyway back to voting your conscience. If you are fairly liberal and freedom minded, by all means vote for Bob Barr and the Libertarian party. If however you believe that the maximum liberty possible is afforded by holding our elected officials feet to the fire and requiring them to uphold their oaths of office to stand for the US Constitution then you are with me. Back to the Constitution? What a concept.

[Drew Wilson]

McCain might make a come back after Bush endorsed him.

Clicky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnJiThzWnPY)

;)