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Mels_Smileys45
October 25th, 2008, 02:39 PM
McCain might make a come back after Bush endorsed him.

Clicky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnJiThzWnPY)

;)



LOL that was some funny shit. McCain himself should do something big like say he is going to investigate BUSH for his incompetency or something along those lines if he is elected. He has to distance himself more somehow. In my mind he has not been able to do that yet. In fact, McCain/Palin seem more redneck than even Bush.

mountain_rage
October 25th, 2008, 02:49 PM
LOL that was some funny shit. McCain himself should do something big like say he is going to investigate BUSH for his incompetency or something along those lines if he is elected. He has to distance himself more somehow. In my mind he has not been able to do that yet. In fact, McCain/Palin seem more redneck than even Bush.

That would be political suicide, he did get a 23% approval rating. That 23% has got to be mainly republican voters, and bashing Bush would probably piss them off. You and I both know that 23% of votes is also extremely significant in American politics. Then again, that 23% are so indoctrinated that it may not matter what the party does to them.

Mels_Smileys45
October 25th, 2008, 03:02 PM
That would be political suicide, he did get a 23% approval rating. That 23% has got to be mainly republican voters, and bashing Bush would probably piss them off. You and I both know that 23% of votes is also extremely significant in American politics. Then again, that 23% are so indoctrinated that it may not matter what the party does to them.


Would it? I don't really know about that. I think only 23% still support him because they are bull headed like Don. I mean McCain keeps slamming Bush at every rally so I would like to hear more about what he plans to do to fix his parties shortcomings other than talk.

YWD67
October 25th, 2008, 03:54 PM
Would it? I don't really know about that. I think only 23% still support him


Golly gee whiz Mel. That is about the percentage of the population who are 70+ yr. old Leave to Beaver era males. They just can not get passed the culture change the country and the world has gone through in the last 50 years.

On a side note Mel, you have slightly less then 400 post to go to pass The Hunter my friend.

Mrs Robinson
October 25th, 2008, 04:00 PM
Has John McCain had a stroke?

John McCain stroke affecting left eye. (http://mccainstroke.com/)

YWD67
October 25th, 2008, 04:06 PM
Has John McCain had a stroke?

John McCain stroke affecting left eye. (http://mccainstroke.com/)

Naaaaaaa! I just think the old coot is winking at Palin.:icon_prof

Although he does have the eye droop like my father-in-law had after his stroke.

evilmegaman
October 25th, 2008, 04:11 PM
Go Barack Obama!!! That Paylon chick looks like a HO!!


this is what the majority of obama voters are thinking when they place their vote on the ballot

Mels_Smileys45
October 25th, 2008, 04:29 PM
this is what the majority of obama voters are thinking when they place their vote on the ballot

I just wonder what McCains voters can be thinking. It must be how much they love the war and how its cool to spend 2.8 million dollars a minute on people who don't want us in their country. I can't see one benefit for them or us to stay there one more multi million dollar minute. McSame wants to stay there 100 years! Can someone add that sum up? I would like so see the Bush administration charged with war crimes for the lie they sold the American people. I got me lynchin' rope!


400 posts coming right up!!!

YWD67
October 25th, 2008, 04:39 PM
Can someone add that sum up?

Sorry Mel, but I am a victim of the liberal public school system. All the schools taught me to do was how to wear a condom, how to be a homosexual, and fill out welfare forms.

But just to to take a guess, it is more then you, me, our kids or grandchildren put together could ever make.

Mels_Smileys45
October 25th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Sorry Mel, but I am a victim of the liberal public school system. All the schools taught me to do was how to wear a condom, how to be a homosexual, and fill out welfare forms.

But just to to take a guess, it is more then you, me, our kids or grandchildren put together could ever make.


I learned to sniff glue and paint in school. I must have been sick and missed the homo lessons. Just my luck

mountain_rage
October 25th, 2008, 04:47 PM
100 years x 365.5 days/year x 24 hours/day x 60 minutes/hour x $2.8 x 10^6 / min = $1.473696 x 10^14 = 147 Trillion dollars.

You guys need to infuse public school with more money. These are functions you learn in grade five and concepts you apply in like grade 9 physics. Maybe buy the middle east and use the 50 trillion dollars left over to improve your schools.

YWD67
October 25th, 2008, 04:52 PM
I learned to sniff glue and paint in school. I must have been sick and missed the homo lessons. Just my luck

NO YOU DIDN'T!!!:icon_prof:icon_prof
The homosexual class was right after solvent sniffing 101.
Where do you think the teachers got the catchers for the classroom demonstrations from. Paint is so much cheaper and legal then roofies:drunken_s:drunken_s:drunken_s

thelastfreeman
October 25th, 2008, 05:11 PM
Homosexual class? Pssh. It's better when you're homeschooled!

mountain_rage
October 25th, 2008, 05:14 PM
Homosexual class? Pssh. It's better when you're homeschooled!

There is a home schooled kid on my street, weirdest little bugger you will ever meet. The kid is either gonna go on a shooting rampage or become a raging alcoholic.

thelastfreeman
October 25th, 2008, 05:17 PM
There is a home schooled kid on my street, weirdest little bugger you will ever meet. The kid is either gonna go on a shooting rampage or become a raging alcoholic.

Why not both? In that order!

Mels_Smileys45
October 25th, 2008, 05:18 PM
100 years x 365.5 days/year x 24 hours/day x 60 minutes/hour x $2.8 x 10^6 / min = $1.473696 x 10^14 = 147 Trillion dollars.

You guys need to infuse public school with more money. These are functions you learn in grade five and concepts you apply in like grade 9 physics. Maybe buy the middle east and use the 50 trillion dollars left over to improve your schools.


lol, it was a rhetorical question. Not sure that was a physics question but public school makes me not sure of a lot of things.

mountain_rage
October 25th, 2008, 05:29 PM
lol, it was a rhetorical question. Not sure that was a physics question but public school makes me not sure of a lot of things.

Yes, but its fun answering rhetorical questions.

The concept I was speaking of is not exclusively from physics, but generally first introduced in physics, or a general science class. What I was referring to with with my statement is the canceling of units.

YWD67
October 25th, 2008, 05:40 PM
What I was referring to with that is the canceling of units.
Now your talking about a sex change, right? I know the old lady will cancel mine if I forget to put the toilet seat down one more time.

jpjeff
October 25th, 2008, 06:20 PM
obama will win

thelastfreeman
October 25th, 2008, 06:58 PM
obama will win

Yeah, some people are just voting on who they want to win. We all know Obama is going to win, whether you support him or not.

Drew Wilson
October 27th, 2008, 02:56 AM
This got a chuckle out of me:

Al Qaeda Websites Showing Support To McCain For President (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biOZ309xQ3c&NR=1)

I'm sure that was a "WTF?" moment for the Republican campaign.

wtxwm
October 27th, 2008, 08:22 AM
Yeah WTF for sure. If the lamers who are running out country "for" us won't believe it when our own intelligence experts tell them, will they believe it when our enemies tell us the same thing? Our ongoing foreign policy of poking at snakes with a stick is a good part of what has got us where we are now.

Drew Wilson
October 29th, 2008, 09:49 AM
Ever have that feeling that the presidential debates were similar?

You were probably right (http://www.boingboing.net/2008/10/28/synchronized-preside.html) (<great syncronised debating video! :D )

thelastfreeman
October 29th, 2008, 09:55 AM
Yeah.. there was a really funny MadTV sketch on this, one of a few gems they come out with.. I'll see if I can find it.

Drew Wilson
October 29th, 2008, 08:33 PM
Don't miss the silent debates (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a1d8r3lkn0&feature=dir) ;)

thelastfreeman
October 29th, 2008, 08:41 PM
Still looking for it.
edit: whoops posted a dupe link

El Comandante
October 30th, 2008, 10:51 AM
Ever have that feeling that the presidential debates were similar?

You were probably right (http://www.boingboing.net/2008/10/28/synchronized-preside.html) (<great syncronised debating video! :D )

That goes to show how completely scripted these people really are... when you have to communicate a message to so many people you have to stay on message.

The latest polls correlated to Electoral College numbers:

Obama/ McCain
Latest Poll Per State
334 186 Poll of Polls (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/poll-of-polls-average.html)
338 160 Survey USA (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/survey-usa.html)
292 220 Rasmussen Reports (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/rasmussen-reports.html)
349 189 Quinnipiac (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/quinnipiac-university.html)
269 128 CNN (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/cnn-state-polls.html)
301 150 ARG (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/american-research-group.html)
312 226 Insider Advantage (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/insider-advantage.html)
245 150 Research 2000 (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/research-2000.html)
226 155 Strategic Vision (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/strategic-vision.html)
207 175 Public Policy Polling (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/public-policy-polling.html)
250 129 Mason Dixon (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/mason-dixon.html)
193 199 Zogby (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/zogby.html)
324 165 National Average (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/national-polls.html) 48.8% 41.6%

Excrement_Cranium
October 30th, 2008, 12:33 PM
Wow... wtf is up w/ Zogby?

wtxwm
October 30th, 2008, 12:53 PM
I dunno, could be Either of

A. Who owns Zogby? "ZOG" perhaps?
or
B. Actual Science? & everybody else is bought and paid for?

The popular track at http://www.zogby.com/ still shows the standard ~5 to 7 % O'Bomber vs McManchurian lead

El Comandante
October 30th, 2008, 10:24 PM
Wow... wtf is up w/ Zogby?

Seems like a mistake of some sort:


Released: October 30, 2008

Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Obama 50.2%, McCain 43.3%

Obama gains, McCain slips

UTICA, New York – Democrat Barack Obama has inched forward again, once again expanding his lead above 50% and moving outside the margin of error as rival John McCain slipped more than a full point, the latest Reuters/C–SPAN/Zogby daily tracking telephone poll shows.

With just five days to go before Election Day, Obama gained 1.1 points, as Republican McCain dropped an identical amount. The race now stands with Obama at 50.2%, compared to 43.3% for McCain. Another 6.5% said they are either undecided or favor another candidate. This poll came out of the field BEFORE the airing of Obama’s 30–minute commercial last night.

wtxwm
October 30th, 2008, 11:37 PM
Ya mon, I dunno,

The state by state electoral vote at Zogby is currently

Obama Blue 286
McCain Red 174
Not Sure Purple 78

http://www.zogby.com/50state/

Back in mid-September the picture was much more rosy for McPain http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Zogby_McCain_Surges/2008/09/13/130504.html

My best guess is O'Bomber 49.4% vs McPain 45.7% - With voter dissatisfaction at an all time high, third party choices should be up from the last presidential election cycle, more like in 2000 than it was in 2004. It will all come out in the warsh, as they say down south.

All I know is that I can't in good conscience vote for either one of the liars. http://factcheck.org/ Bob, Chuck, Cynthia, & Ralph all should do well with all the folks that both major parties have really pissed off this interminable cycle.

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wtxwm
October 30th, 2008, 11:48 PM
FYI - I just got this from a Ron Paul group I belong to. I think the poster here sums it up pretty good for me.

"
1. McCain will not take Michigan. That's a given. This is a blue state.

2. If your vote for McCain isn't going to make a difference, then make a statement with your vote and vote for a third party. If a third party candidate were to get enough votes that it could have changed the outcome in McCain's direction, it would probably get our movement a lot more attention. If that happened in every state that McCain loses, that would be huge. The Republicans would either reshape their platform or the Independent movement might gain strength. A vote for McCain will not get any attention.
"

MoonMan
October 31st, 2008, 03:07 PM
Face it, our system (the American system) is built on two parties. There is no room for a third party because the two major ones build themselves coalitions on various issues, and the issues or angles that are ignored by both major parties aren't big enough to change elections usually.

When new parties have sprouted up, they have 3 directions from which they go (ordered from likeliest to least likeliest):

1. Because of a wide range of reasons, like being single issue, offering appeal to only a segment of voters, or have lukewarm leaders, among other things, they fall into obscurity - aka third party central. See: Green Party, Libertarian Party, Socialist Party, as some examples.

2. The second category in my very unscientific analysis is for parties that surged onto the national scene after the two major parties were not appealing to a large enough segment of the voting population. They take on issues that the two major big boys balk at, or at least make the two big parties take "real" stances. Sometimes they surge, and then drop off the map shortly after (example: the Populist Party), and other times they lead to the extinction of one of the former two and "become" a major party (example: Republican Party forming on the ashes of the impotent Whigs and northern Democrats).

3. They find their way onto the national stage and solidify their power base (see: example above of the Republican party).

There are so many reasons why an independent movement, while not impossible, can't flourish for more than a few election cycles (and that's being generous). Besides above, our party system has taken root in the very real sectionalism that still plays a pivotal role in our politics and has since the very beginning. The Republicans knew this well, which is where their "Southern Strategy" came in after the Democratic Party became the party of civil rights.

Another reason is the "winner-take-all" aspect of our elections. Instead of the representation in government being elected based on the number of votes for multiple candidates, our elections are based on the winner having either a majority or a plurality. In other countries, the number two of a parliamentary district (as an example) might still get a seat (or multiple). In the United States, the number two who won 42% of the vote goes nowhere while the number one who won 45% of the vote (a plurality) is elected. This system basically muscles out any chances that a third party might have for a national office, and is still a powerful force to reckon with in state and local offices as well.

Sorry, I can't stop rambling sometimes.

grab_grab_the_haddock
October 31st, 2008, 08:17 PM
Face it, our system (the American system) is built on two parties. There is no room for a third party because the two major ones build themselves coalitions on various issues, and the issues or angles that are ignored by both major parties aren't big enough to change elections usually.

Sorry, I can't stop rambling sometimes.


I wish I could find the time to reply that your post deserves moony, but another factor you might want to consider is the influence of the media, who basically decide who the only viable candidates are.

The same goes with the issues. The issues people actually care about (education, health care, crime) are rarely discussed - if they were we'd quickly notice how similar both candidates actually are. Instead of discussing issues we get barraged by a wave of meaningless gossip that no-one actually gives a shit about. Unfortunately people buy into the media horseshit, and the end result is brainwashed idiots like DonWebb who think gossip and propaganda is a substitute for political debate.

YWD67
November 1st, 2008, 04:21 AM
I wish I could find the time to reply that your post deserves moony, but another factor you might want to consider is the influence of the media, who basically decide who the only viable candidates are.

The same goes with the issues. The issues people actually care about (education, health care, crime) are rarely discussed - if they were we'd quickly notice how similar both candidates actually are. Instead of discussing issues we get barraged by a wave of meaningless gossip that no-one actually gives a shit about. Unfortunately people buy into the media horseshit, and the end result is brainwashed idiots like DonWebb who think gossip and propaganda is a substitute for political debate.

I could not have put it any better myself Grab.:icon_thum:icon_thum

FOX News for one, is the Republican parties new Swiftboat tool for this election.
Every day the innuendo, and wild suppositions increase in intesity on that gossip network.
The last 72 hrs before the election on FOX will be like a non stop Repulican party add.
Not that it has not been so already.

Supprised that they have not tried to report that Obama's ancestor was Judas Iscariot.

Nice to see you again to Grab.

El Comandante
November 1st, 2008, 06:12 AM
Instead of discussing issues we get barraged by a wave of meaningless gossip that no-one actually gives a shit about.

I fear sometimes that this is the only thing that people care about.

Feather
November 1st, 2008, 06:45 AM
From both sides of the political spectrum

mfgbypooter
November 1st, 2008, 07:00 AM
By law your employer has to give you two hours off to go vote.

Too bad it's not time paid.

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Mels_Smileys45
November 1st, 2008, 02:49 PM
I pray for the world that McCain doesnt win. I wish more people would stop and think about what is best for us all. Economics aside and such. We don't need a "Maverick" who wants to attack, take over and control the world. If you want WWIII, elect McCain because he will turn the rest of the world against us, more than Bush has.

Its time to earn the respect of the world and not try and force them into submission by flashing are big guns and ammunition.

Its amazing how some people NOW support more war since its become a Republican issue. If thats what Republican now stands for I will NEVER EVER vote Repube again. They can go fuck themselves until they pull their heads out of Dons butthole and support Ron Paul!!!!

thelastfreeman
November 1st, 2008, 03:10 PM
Not to mention McCain's socialistic support of The postal system, social security, police force, and now banks. And I'm scared as hell that he'll redistribute the wealth... to the top 1%.

El Comandante
November 1st, 2008, 03:14 PM
http://i37.tinypic.com/2wmqc9c.jpg

That was excellent.

thelastfreeman
November 1st, 2008, 03:17 PM
That was excellent.

I moved it to the campaign pics thread since the img tag doesnt work here.

El Comandante
November 3rd, 2008, 09:54 PM
Gallup says it will be a blowout.


The final Gallup 2008 pre-election poll -- based on Oct. 31-Nov. 2 Gallup Poll Daily tracking -- shows Barack Obama with a 53% to 42% advantage over John McCain among likely voters. When undecided voters are allocated proportionately to the two candidates to better approximate the actual vote, the estimate becomes 55% for Obama to 44% for McCain.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111703/Final-Presidential-Estimate-Obama-55-McCain-44.aspx

YWD67
November 3rd, 2008, 09:59 PM
In several of the polls that where taken to day, it was found that one third of those who were polled had already voted.

I am just hoping that 48 hrs from now I won't see Carl Rove on TV again.:devil2
That is unless it is some kind of televised trial he is involved in.

thelastfreeman
November 3rd, 2008, 10:08 PM
Frankly I'd like to see him thrown in Gitmo or face a firing squad or my personal favorite, get drawn and quartered.

El Comandante
November 3rd, 2008, 10:15 PM
I am just hoping that 48 hrs from now I won't see Carl Rove on TV again.:devil2


Dude, you have to stop watching Fox news or you will be driven out of your mind.

Drew Wilson
November 3rd, 2008, 10:22 PM
The Republicans may not win, but at least they are entertaining over the phone with radio DJs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMV0LKlVj8I

Heheheheheh.

thelastfreeman
November 3rd, 2008, 10:25 PM
LOL yah.. "lets go hunting.. but don't bring Cheney"

Mels_Smileys45
November 4th, 2008, 02:37 AM
Gallup says it will be a blowout.



http://www.gallup.com/poll/111703/Final-Presidential-Estimate-Obama-55-McCain-44.aspx


Not exactly right, he will win by 60%

thelastfreeman
November 4th, 2008, 02:42 AM
For all of you up early, StarBucks is giving free coffee all day if you simply tell them you voted.

Excrement_Cranium
November 4th, 2008, 08:05 AM
Fun too, look at the pretty colors:

http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard

thelastfreeman
November 4th, 2008, 09:15 AM
Anyone seen the latest Fix News ads? They are really getting desperate.

El Comandante
November 4th, 2008, 04:24 PM
Well, I just voted. It took me less that 15 minutes. I'm glad I didn't stand in line for 3 hours like all of those people who voted early.

Reports are that voting has gone smoothly all over Florida. Hopefully we won't be the laughing stock of the Country again.

Drew Wilson
November 4th, 2008, 07:57 PM
Still watching the elections... but...

A quick note to Don Webb... stay away from tall buildings with open windows.

Mucci Man
November 4th, 2008, 08:02 PM
Still watching the elections... but...

A quick note to Don Webb... stay away from tall buildings with open windows.

Especially if you are walking down the street in Tennesee, Georgia or Texas. Yeeehaaaaaa

El Comandante
November 4th, 2008, 11:03 PM
and so we have our answer.......

thelastfreeman
November 4th, 2008, 11:06 PM
Facebook friends are freaking out; threatening to secede from the union...

wtxwm
November 5th, 2008, 12:06 AM
I often hate being right. ..but just because it's not what I want, doesn't make it not so. Pres. O'Bama should be able to help unify the nation, during a difficult time. What choice did we have anyway Trotsky or Marx?

Choose now! The sword, the famine, or the pestilence? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-EXt7vghQ0 I might even have some change left in my pocket.

10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production,...

Excrement_Cranium
November 5th, 2008, 08:17 AM
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.


*cough* Fed *cough*

They set that shit up in the early 1900's son.

wtxwm
November 5th, 2008, 11:09 AM
Thou speakest the truth my friend. Kudos on paying attention.

The Creature from Jekyll Island -
A Second Look at the Federal Reserve
by G Edward Griffin - 71 min - Sep 24, 2007

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8484911570371055528

mfgbypooter
November 5th, 2008, 01:12 PM
Cynthia McKinney still has a fighting chance.

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wtxwm
November 5th, 2008, 03:39 PM
Cynthia McKinney still has a fighting chance.

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He heh he he! shhhhpoot

~~~They're coming to take me away, hay hay, ho ho, he he!~~~

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Inmate_Labor_Program
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex84
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northcom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

& these are old numbers
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/02/28/DI2008022802960.html
http://www.physorg.com/news126279826.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/28cnd-prison.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

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Mels_Smileys45
November 6th, 2008, 04:44 AM
I TeVoed the election so shhhhhhhhhh...... don't tell me how it ends before I watch it!

El Comandante
November 6th, 2008, 08:47 AM
I TeVoed the election so shhhhhhhhhh...... don't tell me how it ends before I watch it!

You'll enjoy it. It's close, a cliffhanger, a squeaker... lol

mfgbypooter
November 6th, 2008, 08:55 AM
He needs your support now more than ever.

Bob Barr can still win!

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thelastfreeman
November 6th, 2008, 11:58 AM
I TeVoed the election so shhhhhhhhhh...... don't tell me how it ends before I watch it!

One of the white guy wins

wtxwm
November 6th, 2008, 12:36 PM
I TeVoed the election so shhhhhhhhhh...... don't tell me how it ends before I watch it!

Why on earth would someone waste hard drive space on a foregone conclusion? 's way beyoond me. Yeah, one of the guys that the CFR folks love with a passion has won, yet once again. Freaking amazing, how we let them do that to us (We The People) every four years.

http://www.cfr.org/bios/11603/barack_obama.html
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070701faessay86401/barack-obama/renewing-american-leadership.html

Renewing American Leadership
by Barack Obama
From Foreign Affairs, July/August 2007 - Published by the CFR

And I quote from his his lengthy diatribe (emphasis mine)
"And they come from a warming planet that will spur new diseases, spawn more devastating natural disasters, and catalyze deadly conflicts."

That's the same barf from the Neo-Con folks at PNAC back in 2000, with a little bit more sounding like the green faction of the NWO and just a bit less Malthusian spin to it.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/defensenationalsecurity.htm (p. 60)
"And advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."


"COMMON SECURITY FOR OUR COMMON HUMANITY
At moments of great peril in the last century, American leaders such as Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and John F. Kennedy managed both to protect the American people and to expand opportunity for the next generation. What is more, they ensured that America, by deed and example, led and lifted the world -- that we stood for and fought for the freedoms sought by billions of people beyond our borders.
As Roosevelt built the most formidable military the world had ever seen, his Four Freedoms gave purpose to our struggle against fascism. Truman championed a bold new architecture to respond to the Soviet threat -- one that paired military strength with the Marshall Plan and helped secure the peace and well-being of nations around the world. As colonialism crumbled and the Soviet Union achieved effective nuclear parity, Kennedy modernized our military doctrine, strengthened our conventional forces, and created the Peace Corps and the Alliance for Progress. They used our strengths to show people everywhere America at its best.
Today, we are again called to provide visionary leadership. This century's threats are at least as dangerous as and in some ways more complex than those we have confronted in the past. They come from weapons that can kill on a mass scale and from global terrorists who respond to alienation or perceived injustice with murderous nihilism. They come from rogue states allied to terrorists and from rising powers that could challenge both America and the international foundation of liberal democracy. They come from weak states that cannot control their territory or provide for their people. And they come from a warming planet that will spur new diseases, spawn more devastating natural disasters, and catalyze deadly conflicts.

mfgbypooter
November 9th, 2008, 03:38 PM
I still can't make my mind up on which one to choose in this poll.

Thank God I have until December 30th, 2008 at 12:41 PM to decide.

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mfgbypooter
November 15th, 2008, 04:55 PM
If Ralph Nader would pick Obama girl to be his running mate I think he just might have a chance.

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El Comandante
November 15th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Even Ron Paul has a girl.

mountain_rage
November 15th, 2008, 06:32 PM
Clearly Mr. Peabody will win.

mfgbypooter
November 15th, 2008, 06:33 PM
Bob Barr Bob Barr Bob Barr Bob Barr Ba Rino.

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wtxwm
November 23rd, 2008, 06:12 PM
The thread that will not die, or...

O'bomber, is the honeymoon over already?

How long could it take him to get an approval rating as low as W's?

3 more years war? War hughh! What is it good fo'? Absolutely...

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"The problems in the world today are so enormous they cannot
be solved with the level of thinking that created them."
-- Albert Einstein

El Comandante
November 23rd, 2008, 06:45 PM
I would ask a mod to close the thread but mods are hard to come by these days.

Feather
November 23rd, 2008, 07:03 PM
check in thread tools and see if you can close it since you are the author

CutChaotic
November 23rd, 2008, 07:39 PM
check in thread tools and see if you can close it since you are the author

only admin/mod can close it

Mels_Smileys45
November 23rd, 2008, 11:09 PM
only admin/mod can close it

not true. In some sub forums the original poster can close their own threads

El Comandante
November 23rd, 2008, 11:41 PM
not this one... I'll PM someone...

Sarah Palin
November 24th, 2008, 01:26 PM
I'll see ya'll at the polls come 2012.

mfgbypooter
November 24th, 2008, 01:40 PM
Why, is John running?

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CutChaotic
November 24th, 2008, 02:07 PM
No, his old ass will be dead by then..

YWD67
November 24th, 2008, 03:51 PM
First I am back online. Damn if this cheap used Acer Laptop didn't have a complete factory installed recovery program built into the D: drive. Took me from 9pm yesterday to 1pm today to get everything else downloaded from cd's. Took 3 hours alone to get 104 security updates for the XP. This laptop was made in 2005 so there were a lot of holes for the updates to fill.

Enough of my Herculean actions and back to the political soapbox I love to piss from. And boy do I have a bucket full to dump on this ass.

Is it me or has Hukabee already started to for president in 2012? Christ it was bad enough that he was on Fox when he ran last time. Now he works for them and he is on there every day. Now he has a book out called Do the Right Thing: Inside the Movement That's Bringing Common Sense Back to America.

Obama has not even been sworn in as Prez yet, and this dick has already started on the next election.
Fox is giving him free airtime for the next four years, ( that is if he doesn't stroke out).

Here is a little free advice Huckabee Hound, and please take it to heart.

If you really want to "Do the Right Thing Bringing Common Sense Back to America"; the best thing you can do is put a torch to the lying seaping puss hole that is called the Fox news room.

And if you feel like bending Gretchen Carlson over that damn couch and do the "Poop Shoot Boogie" as Rome burns around you Nero, go for the Gold.:icon_thum:icon_thum

Lord_of_the_Dense
November 24th, 2008, 04:37 PM
Closed at thread creator's request.