Do Private Sites Really Protect?

[MrGonzo]

Hi

I'm a Canadian who just found out yesterday that our government is planning on passing a new DMCA law that is just bullshit for us Canadians.

My question is, if I only DL from private sites, will my ISP and/or police & government not be able to see what I'm DLing/ULing because of encryption?

Or is there any easy REAL way that works that will hide me?

Thxs

[gost]

i have the same question, i right now i think that this is just to scare ppl, but if the bill becomes a law.. i will need a new way to pirate. or just stop.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Hi



Thxs


Wow MrGonzo. I don't recall seeing you post in quite some time. Good question too. Who can really say for sure one way or the other. Its the uncertainty that should be concerning. What I find disconcerting is that a few people say theyre certain that these sites are and will always be completely safe. Any post that says that.....well just stop reading it right there because someone let the gimp use the PC again.



Can anyone really hide online? Short answer, no.

[drtoker]

Are private sites any safer? Well yes and no. It adds a layer of security for sure, but nothing is 100% safe on the internet.
If your that worried about it, go get a newsgroup subscription with ssl and don't post anything (upload).

I use private sites, and i'm in the USA. I feel fairly safe with what I choose to do online.
IMO, smaller private sites are going to be more secure then 'private' sites with 10000+ members...

[mailrachit]

i dont know much about about security but i dont think so. i think its easy to track what a person downloads from what site

[mish_]

Private sites have an advantage that it isn't open to the public. Which is good for some piece of mind. However, I think most people know that even private sites have people from Anti-Piracy organizations on there that get paid to seek out invites to these sites and do god knows what on them.

Some things to keep yourself protected would be to use 'encryption' is your favourite bittorrent client. Utilize SSL connections that some bittorrent trackers have (TPB for example recently implemented this).

-mish.

[Mediapirate]

My question is, if I only DL from private sites, will my ISP and/or police & government not be able to see what I'm DLing/ULing because of encryption?

Or is there any easy REAL way that works that will hide me?

If your ISP did some Deep Packet Inspection then yes they would be able to see what you are downloading. Being on a private site doesn't mean that your sharing is encrypted. However they usually base the fact that you have downloaded something on seeing your IP seeding or leeching something. Then they check with your ISP and find out it was you. Private trackers have less people so maybe the target them less...but they also have more hardcore pirates so maybe they go after them more. I don't think anyone knows the answer as to which are safer..public or private?

The only real way to make sure you can't be found is to get some encryption. In Sweden they have something called Relakks and there are plenty of others. They are basically proxys...but they also encrypt your connection to them so no-one can know what you are doing.

Hope this helps.:icon_thum

[drtoker]

Be careful before using something like Relakks on a private site. Check the rules first. I'm not familliar with that particular program, but a lot of sites do not allow leeching/seeding from multiple IP's (proxies).

[carpefile]

Here is my personal opinion based upon years of experience. Private trackers are more risky to use than public ones.
Why? Private trackers collect a lot of info on their users, pertaining to your ip address, what files you've downed and upped, and how much of each you've moved.

As long as your private tracker doesn't get infiltrated, or the admins busted and coerced into rolling over on their members for a degree of leniency in their sentencing, I suppose you are safer.

However, if you believe your tracker hasn't already been infiltrated, or that the admin is gonna tank 10 to 20 years of his life to protect your insignificant ass, I've got some beautiful Arizona beachfront property to sell you.

On the pub trackers, the logs are huge, and scrubbed daily. Millions of people hit sites like TPB daily. There is no info recorded there on ratios or which files you've swarmed on.
If you use some common sense, and also protect yourself with a good ip block list, your odds of being tagged decrease even further.

Where, Grasshopper, is the best place to hide a grain of sand?

On the beach.

Oh, and your ISP can see everything you do online, if they choose to. If you hide yourself from them, you no longer have an internet connection. The trick is to use traffic protocols that don't send up any red flags. Enabling protocol encryption in your client is a good start.

[zeroes00]

The real "protection" comes from the fact that a huge number of people do it. So if police starts to systematically raid people's houses, then you'll hear about it long before it happens to you.

[shawners]

Yes. Just dont use groups that are over 80 thousand or more people. Soon as elite, oink hit the 100,000 and invites come out so every other day with people becoming power users. Its simple to drop out. Just hit the quit button and everything is erased and no longer a member. Ratio and all.

1. Only 1 IP address per account. Cant be logged in to 14 torrents with different IPs.. Like Media Defender.
2. Lot less people, lot less traffic and people seed like crazy so you get the file faster.
3. All the files unless audio are in RAR format. No one can determine what the acronyms mean and 95 files broken up.
4. No download or file is logged. You upload, you download and nothing but File size which produce your ratio. Lot more sites hide it from other users now.
5. I have had over 1400 movies and no cease and desist letters or warnings.
Been part of oink and elite.

Civil suit by FBI is going to take place. When that happens. PUBLIC sites and people in the US using them will be getting a rude awakening. The FBI has super computers and can get a lot of people hired to track you through these public sites. Its scary.