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12345678910
December 7th, 2002, 01:04 PM
I mostly listen to Rock & Rap. I have read that some of you like Techno. I also think my friends at school listen to Techno. Does anyone have any opinions on good Techno to *cough*cough* buy? I am interested in listening to this stuff, I might even like it!

Thanks
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p00n1s
December 7th, 2002, 01:35 PM
go to a record store. spend a few hours listening to techno cd's. pick out then ones you like most and buy them

PuNiShErKiLl666
December 7th, 2002, 01:37 PM
I don't listen to techno but on MTV they got some guy named Moby. Check him out I geuss.

PatientSaint
December 7th, 2002, 02:52 PM
i am scared... how long has this thread been up? i haven't seen anyone flame him for mentioning music ....i am sure that will come tho.

I'd say old paul oakenfold is great. DJ Tiesto. Juno Reactor is really great too. If u want a good selection the swordfish sound track is great. Depending on what app you use like winmx. I'd IM people that you ar downloading from and ask them for suggestions. Sometiemsthe best Techno is stuff that is being passsed round from ear to ear.

phalkon30
December 7th, 2002, 02:57 PM
I have to agree with Krell on this one, use p2p

some of my favorite artists are Paul Oakenfold, Sasha & Digweed, DJ (i like dj tiesto, dj sammy, and some others like that, just add a random name after dj, and you will find stuff)

if you want some free LEGAL stuff, go to http://www.tranceaddict.com/singles.php

I listen to techno almost 24/7, if you need some more artist names or good clasic techno songs, PM me and I'll give you some more info

If you're looking for a good cd, I would suggest Paul Oakenfolds Tranceport, and Cream Anthems, I share both on WinMX and should be up for at least another 24hrs straight, so try getting those, look for cream anthems 2001 whole album, and tranceport whole album

one other cool thing to look for, is techno remix's, its amazing how many there are, ive found clasical orchestra (betoven), to scooby doo!

gl, and welcome to the techno/trance world, trip out

d.crowley
December 7th, 2002, 03:02 PM
do yourself a favor and

a.) don't download moby (first, he's in no way "techno"... he uses lots of electronica styles in his music, but imho he should have stuck to punkrock... can't stand his piano samples anymore)

b.) search a little more widespread than just entering the word "techno", as this will most likely just lead you to the commercially most succesful tracks, often trance music by UK djs like sasha, paul oakenfold, pete tong etc.

there are lots of different subgenres... lots of people even consider house and all its substyles (as minimal, garage, tribal, detroit, chicago...) a techno-subgenre.

start off by checking out tracks & dj-sets by some of these artists:

laurent garnier, chris liebing, der dritte raum, jeff mills, sven väth, dj hell, dave clarke, miss kittin.

maybe even some goa trance... like koxbox or green nuns of the revolution...

don't bother looking for good stuff on gnutella/kazaa/edonkey... just get soulseek. (http://www.slsk.org)

p00n1s
December 7th, 2002, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by 12345678910
Does anyone have any opinions on good Techno to *cough*cough* buy?

Well you can BUY music at a cd store. However, most places won't have a very good selection of techno. I suggest goint to http://www.digitallyimported.com/ and listening to their streams. They also have some boards for house, trance, etc.

CrAzYMaNiAk54
December 7th, 2002, 03:15 PM
Good site there p00n1s... =D I dont really listen to techno but I like some songs.

Slyder
December 7th, 2002, 03:15 PM
yea sasha & digweed and paul oakenfold is good as well and another one of my favorites is christopher lawrence as well as orbital so give them a try

TC75580
December 7th, 2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by d.crowley
do yourself a favor and

a.) don't download moby (first, he's in no way "techno"... he uses lots of electronica styles in his music, but imho he should have stuck to punkrock... can't stand his piano samples anymore)

b.) search a little more widespread than just entering the word "techno", as this will most likely just lead you to the commercially most succesful tracks, often trance music by UK djs like sasha, paul oakenfold, pete tong etc.

there are lots of different subgenres... lots of people even consider house and all its substyles (as minimal, garage, tribal, detroit, chicago...) a techno-subgenre.

start off by checking out tracks & dj-sets by some of these artists:

laurent garnier, chris liebing, der dritte raum, jeff mills, sven väth, dj hell, dave clarke, miss kittin.

maybe even some goa trance... like koxbox or green nuns of the revolution...

don't bother looking for good stuff on gnutella/kazaa/edonkey... just get soulseek. (http://www.slsk.org)

Very well informed, that was perfect and I agree 100%... it's best to use soulseek for any kind of electronica, including techno. Once you're there, go to a few electronica chatrooms and get peoples' lists, then use those names and search the network, and you should find enough to make you happy :)

Psilaxs
December 7th, 2002, 05:07 PM
Ian Van Dahl AWESOME,
Also if you like melodic trance/dance music Robert Miles is a very brilliant composer and his songs have very strong melodies that you dont tire of (In other words it isnt the same 4 notes repeated for 5 minutes)

grab_grab_the_haddock
December 7th, 2002, 05:27 PM
im not sure exactly what would be described as techno anymore. it used to be clearly defined back in the days of detroit techno with stuff like inner city and derrick may doin the rounds.
i suspect when 12345678910 says "techno" what he means is electronic music generally, maybe im wrong.
paul oakenfold is a good recommendation to start with. it might also be a good idea to go for some early electronic innovators like kraftwerk, to give you a feel for how the whole electronic genre began. Listen to albums like "man machine" and "autobahn" and you wont believe they were made in the early 1970s
im not much of a fan of nosebleed techno music, i prefer my electronica more laid back. something like aphex twin is more for me, and autechre is also good. the orb made some cool stuff especially their groundbreaking albums "UForb" and " adventures beyond the ultraworld" . orbital are cool, and some of william orbits stuff i like.
these are very personal choices of course (as always with music) but maybe along with some of the other comments here will give you some idea of where to start.

edit: by the way i have most of the stuff mentioned here on mp3, if you want to download anything PM me and ill put it on my ftp server for you to download.

WhitePony
December 7th, 2002, 05:35 PM
...I see that ppl here have a broad idea of what Techno is...nothing wrong with that...but still, not everything with a 4/4 beat is Techno.
Anyway, some suggestions...
- If you want pure Techo (the industrial, beat-heavy and percussive kind) check out : Carl Cox, Umek, Gaetek, Marco Carola, Marco Bailey, Cristian Varela, Oscar Mulero, Ben Sims, Gaetano Parisio and Adam Beyer.
- If you want something a bit more tribal and progressive, go for : Sasha, John Digweed, Steve Lawler, Lowend Specialists, Deep Dish, James Holden, Hernan Cattaneo, and Dusk (a DJ friend of mine :) )
- For Trance, I´d say Paul Oakenfold, Cosmic Gate, Astral Projection, DJ Tiesto, Ian Van Dahl, Armin Van Buuren and Paul Van Dyk.

To check out all of these styles of music, some sites offer you the chance to download some great DJ sets :
- DJ Mixes (http://www.djmixes2k.com)
- AudioBeats (http://www.audiobeats.com)
- MercuryServer (http://www.mercuryserver.com)

As for a good P2P app for this kind of music, use SoulSeek!

d.crowley
December 7th, 2002, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Psilaxs
Also if you like melodic trance/dance music Robert Miles is a very brilliant composer and his songs have very strong melodies that you dont tire of (In other words it isnt the same 4 notes repeated for 5 minutes)

Nah, he's more like... 6 notes repeated for 5 minutes. C'mon, you can't seriously consider Robert Miles being a "composer".

Rickio
December 7th, 2002, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by 12345678910
I mostly listen to Rock & Rap. I have read that some of you like Techno. I also think my friends at school listen to Techno. Does anyone have any opinions on good Techno to *cough*cough* buy? I am interested in listening to this stuff, I might even like it!

Thanks
12345678910

check out some crystal method and all the stuff mentioned is way cool.

got here late so everyone has given you many clues.

also musicmagnet is going to have a major change soon. we had a glitch but are coming back with a new and better music forum. check us out for more ideas.

peace!

PowerMan57two
December 7th, 2002, 07:27 PM
i love techno, it's one of my fav. music, top 5 actually, i like daniel beddingfield, dirty vegas, gigi digastoni or something like that, u can just type in gigi and i bet something would come up, i also like darude

try these techno songs their awsome!!

darude - sandstorm
gigi - i'll fly with you

those are my top two fav. techno songs!

blury
December 7th, 2002, 07:57 PM
see the attachment....there's over 3,000 artist and song titles in it. ok...i might have some Dave Matthews in there on accident, but most of it is electronica - all genres.

blury
December 7th, 2002, 08:12 PM
maybe this time?

The Hunter
December 7th, 2002, 08:21 PM
:wings Not big on techno, but it is good to see you here. peace.

phalkon30
December 7th, 2002, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by d.crowley
Nah, he's more like... 6 notes repeated for 5 minutes. C'mon, you can't seriously consider Robert Miles being a "composer".

personaly, I dont think he is a comser either, but i really like his music, he is one of the artists that got me intrested in techno

i wish i would have had time to finish my first post here, but it seems the rest of you guys have suggested all the artists i would have, and then some....

some that were missed that i like are...

blank and jones, blue man group (yes i know its not really techno, but its close), Banco de Gaia (again more a psuedo techno), chemical bros, Danny Tenaglia, Db Bass Killaz, Bass Mekanik, George Acosta, Gigi D'Agonstino, Infected Mushroom, Kernkraft 400, Mauro Picotto, Milk Inc, Propellerheads, Sarina Paris, Sylver, Vincent de Moor

I basicly went through my MP3's and got those

one tip i have for you, if you use kazaa lite (this worked in the 1.6 version), try typing " techno" with the space and without quotes, this should search by other category (instead of just artist/track), so you can search by genere

(btw blury, great list of stuff there, i saw i few i forgot to list, one thing, how did you get that to a text file, i forgot how in winamp and i dont wanna hand type all those songs....thanx)

blury
December 7th, 2002, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by phalkon30
(btw blury, great list of stuff there, i saw i few i forgot to list, one thing, how did you get that to a text file, i forgot how in winamp and i dont wanna hand type all those songs....thanx)

Thanks...SoulSeek's where I've "sampling" the songs...

In Winamp's playlist you should see a "misc" button. Click it twice and it will give you the option of generating a HTML. All I did was copy and paste the songs in a text file. Or just press Ctrl+Alt+G

method77
December 7th, 2002, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Yodashady
I don't listen to techno but on MTV they got some guy named Moby. Check him out I geuss. I think a mod ( especially in a p2p site ) could do better than this! Just follow d.crowley's posts and you are done. www.slsk.org
Go to the chat rooms

«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»
December 8th, 2002, 04:28 AM
i was in to techno for a long while, but i never really found any good "artists". All i got where technolized songs like, StarWars, Titanic etc etc etc.

I'd really love a list of artist if anyone can pm me. (that means you Phalkon30! LOL

phalkon30
December 8th, 2002, 05:50 PM
check your pms :P

and btw, i think starwars rave techno hip hop disco lynard skinnard version 3.2 mix is good (i have one similarily named to that....), along with titanic bigger longer and uncut, lol

thanx for the tip blury, that does it (somehow i forgot about that.....and was to stupid to figure it out)

oops, i mean check your PM's stealth, lmao

Koffee Bean
December 8th, 2002, 06:25 PM
The best Techno singer/composer in the world is Ian Van Dahl, if you've ever heard Castles In The Sky, or Will I you will agree. Those are her most popular songs, but she has 2 full CD's out, I've fond that most of the stuff on her CD's ain't on FastTrack which is a shame, but still, even if you only get those 2 songs I know you'll LOVE them.

phalkon30
December 8th, 2002, 06:47 PM
Koffee, u da man!

i have castles in the sky, and had it labled as Sarina Paris, while her music is good, i thought it sounded slightly different in style...

i think ill go get some ian, i love that style techno, fast beat, female vocals.....great stuff

Psilaxs
December 8th, 2002, 08:39 PM
Ian Vahn Dal (SP?) is actually a duo (trio? cannot remember) of producers, and recruted her as a singer.

Rickio
December 8th, 2002, 09:30 PM
very cool thread.
I've heard just about all but the Ian Vahn Dal has somehow been missed by me. I am downloading a album now.

peace!

phalkon30
December 8th, 2002, 09:52 PM
cool stuff rickio, too bad you have to pay to make it worth it, at ten meg max, you might as well just email it with that 15meg email

and after looking through the billing, you would have to pay sooooooooooooo much money to make it worth it, not to mention, if you go over your limit by even 1k, you get charged double for the month

no thanx for me, but thanx for the offer :)

PhrostByte
December 8th, 2002, 10:07 PM
Yeah I absolutely agree with a lot of the responces on this thread. DJ Tiesto is definately my favorite artist. I suppose his music is a bit "sophisticated" or whatnot... I think the one person that you all failed to mention (or maybe I'm wrong) is ATB. He helped revolution trance into what it is today with songs like 9pm (Till I Come), Don't Stop, The Summer... etc. And his latest CD is a great complitation of techno, trance, dance. I'm sure you'll like it.

Other suggestions: Oakenfold, Paul Van Dyk, Darude, Alice DeeJay, Infected Mushroom, Carl Cox, Ian Van Dahl, etc etc.

Rickio
December 8th, 2002, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by phalkon30
cool stuff rickio, too bad you have to pay to make it worth it, at ten meg max, you might as well just email it with that 15meg email

and after looking through the billing, you would have to pay sooooooooooooo much money to make it worth it, not to mention, if you go over your limit by even 1k, you get charged double for the month

no thanx for me, but thanx for the offer :)

actually the free aspect of streamload is very cool. I share and send a few files via email or streamload all the time. (almost every day) streamload is better because it has a very fast download and upload as well. take my word for it, it's very fast and efficient.
their is no reason to pay for anything, as I said it's only for a few files here and their.

it is not for serious sharing between friends, just for a tune or a taste as they say. for serious sharing it's ftp or a app. like wwwfileshare.

peace out!

«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»
December 8th, 2002, 11:02 PM
i knew a website once that offered movies through streamload.com(or something similar) but i couldn't get any cause of the paying factor.

But what would b great was if it was free! I got DSL and the upload really depends on where you are to get good speeds.

Siskabush
December 9th, 2002, 12:19 AM
Check out scooter, DJ Tiesto, DJ Quicksilver, ATB, Infected mushroom, and if you are lucky, DJ Dawn.

Lots of techno to get! lots.

And there are some cool moby remixes out there.

Welcome to the world of Techno!

phalkon30
December 9th, 2002, 12:27 AM
siskabush, welcome to the world of ZP!

its sorta cool, I didnt think anybody had ever heard of Infected mushroom, even on techno sites, you just dont hear about that group often, but then you guys....lol

btw, if you want some good stuff by them, my favs are The Shen, and Enter the Matrix

and Rickio, I think ill stay away from streamload, if i have a file i want to give to a friend (I'm the only one with broadband), i just burn it on cd and give it to them in person, thanx anyway tho

I got a ? for some of you techno fans, ever heard of Milk Inc.? look for "walk on water", i think its a kickass song, great female vocals, great driving beat, and if you can find the "hit mix 2000" song, its even better IMO, its live, sorta cool

Rickio
December 9th, 2002, 01:28 AM
infected mushroom are cool . I think I got about 3 or 4 of their albums and a few live sets.

the names of genres kinda bugs me sometimes,personally I don't care as long as I like it. But I think infected mushroom was referred to as psytrance or maybe that's just how I found them, whatever hehehe... when you do searches and you use the terms pystrance or goa, trip hop etc. you can find some way cool stuff.


peace out!

blury
December 13th, 2002, 11:57 PM
ready to see all of my music in text? it's 120 pages worth of electronica (& "other" stuff, too).....read it for reference, of course if you wish!

(If you happen to download the attachment, I made up titles for most of my CD's because most are just compilations ....some of the names are pretty cheesy, LOL....you'll see)

that includes techno, commercial techno (although i hate it now), electro, house, tech house, downbeat, nu skool breaks, old skool breaks, trance, goa trance, big beat, D&B, tribal beats, etc., etc. (the list goes on and on)

For a quick reply though...here's some of my favorite artists/DJ's (at the moment)...

Koma & Bones, Rennie Pilgrem, Layo & Bushwacka, Morel, James Lavelle, Lee Coombs, Hybrid, Orb, Orbital, Peace Division, 16B, Rabbit in the Moon, BT, Sander Kleinenberg, Satoshi Tomiie, Slacker, Superchumbo, Tiga & Zyntherius, Tipper, Tom Middleton, Evolution, Way Out West, Yunus Guvenen, Luke Slater, Deep Dish, Adam Freeland, Basement Jaxx.....

Ok but my favorite out of all my favorites has to be Deep Dish!!!!
They've create the most pulsating, deep, gorgeous, and "thicked-out" House music ever!!! There mixes are absolutely seamless. You have to listen to "Yoshiesque" or their essential mix (1998-07-12) @ Sundissential

Hybrid has turned things around from being a monotonous, boring repetitive mess to complete and original quality lately....
Latest stuff from them is 'Visible Noise', 'Gravastar, 'Celebrity Science, and their remix of Conjure One's 'Tears from the Moon'...their long break from recording seemed to pay off....

Also, Global Underground's latest release is phenomenal. James Lavelle's debut is a diverse one to say the least. He's got a little bit of orchestra, hip hop, dubs, deep breaks, dark house, all rolled into one. Damn, he even mixed Ian Brown's song called "FEAR" for an outro!

It's all about change and diversity for me...some of the best electronic music is coming out these days...

I have a lovely site for "advancement of electronic music"

www.progressive-sounds.com

12345678910
December 16th, 2002, 10:00 PM
I never expected to get so many good answers and I didn't even know how many people like this type of music. So I guess it is a good thread.

I noticed that I really like Ian Van Dahl and fast paced songs with women voices. I have also played some Paul Oakenfold. I was looking to see if anyone had the Swordfish album. I noticed someone mentioned it on the thread but I can't seem to find it on Fasttrack anywhere.( Maybe an FTP link?) I seem to fancy DJ Sammy also. I am just beginning and only have a few MP3s so far.

Does anyone know any other artists that play this type of music? I know their are many forms of Techno, but I can't seem to distinguish one from another at this point.

Thanks,
12345678910

phalkon30
December 16th, 2002, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by 12345678910
I never expected to get so many good answers and I didn't even know how many people like this type of music. So I guess it is a good thread.

I noticed that I really like Ian Van Dahl and fast paced songs with women voices. I have also played some Paul Oakenfold. I was looking to see if anyone had the Swordfish album. I noticed someone mentioned it on the thread but I can't seem to find it on Fasttrack anywhere.( Maybe an FTP link?) I seem to fancy DJ Sammy also. I am just beginning and only have a few MP3s so far.

Does anyone know any other artists that play this type of music? I know their are many forms of Techno, but I can't seem to distinguish one from another at this point.

Thanks,
12345678910

I have a few songs off of the swordfish album, got em off kazaa to......now I share on WinMX, so if you look there, might find the few I have

I have close to a gig worth of paul oakenfold right now, hes my favorite artist, and I agree with your type of techno, if you like it, try Milk Inc. not a well known group, but the femal voice is sweet (I mentioned it before, but try to find 2001 hitmix, or walk on water to see what I mean)

Rickio
December 17th, 2002, 02:18 AM
Originally posted by 12345678910
I never expected to get so many good answers and I didn't even know how many people like this type of music. So I guess it is a good thread.

I noticed that I really like Ian Van Dahl and fast paced songs with women voices. I have also played some Paul Oakenfold. I was looking to see if anyone had the Swordfish album. I noticed someone mentioned it on the thread but I can't seem to find it on Fasttrack anywhere.( Maybe an FTP link?) I seem to fancy DJ Sammy also. I am just beginning and only have a few MP3s so far.

Does anyone know any other artists that play this type of music? I know their are many forms of Techno, but I can't seem to distinguish one from another at this point.

Thanks,
12345678910
I got the swordfish albums off of the edonkey network. If you really can't find it and want it, let me know via PM and I'll get it to you.

peace

WhitePony
December 17th, 2002, 04:40 AM
...blury´s got some amazing stuff!
And it seems he´s into my kind of stuff...Progressive Sounds indeed.
If you don´t know it yet, I strongly advise you to check out mercuryserver (http://www.mercuryserver.com) , a site dedicated to DJ John Digweed. Every week, they post his (and his guest´s...) sets on his Kiss100 FM friday night show.

By the way, blury, SoulSeek is also one of my main sources of music, so search for me (nick : DefWhitePony) and I´m sure you´ll find something you like. If you´re into Deep Dish, you´ll love my friend Dusk´s sets!

As for 12345678910´s question, I refer you to my post and the artist´s whose names I´ve mentioned there, but check out this place (http://www.djmixes2k.com) too, for your trance kicks.

By the way, I went to Madrid this weekend for a techno party with Spanish DJ Oscar Mulero. It had the same intensity about as the best hard rock shows I´ve ever been to. He´s got a hard, industrial style, very dark but funky, mixing on 3 or 4 turntables at the same time, so he doesn´t let the same song playing formore than 3 minutes. It was insane! Check out his stuff if you have the chance!

blury
December 18th, 2002, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by WhitePony
.If you don´t know it yet, I strongly advise you to check out mercuryserver (http://www.mercuryserver.com) , a site dedicated to DJ John Digweed. Every week, they post his (and his guest´s...) sets on his Kiss100 FM friday night show.

Awesome site Pony... I can't wait to start downloading some of the Kiss sets! I've got some Renaissance and GU sets from Diggers, but nothing from Kiss...yet!


By the way, I went to Madrid this weekend for a techno party with Spanish DJ Oscar Mulero...

Yes... I have a friend who's an exchange student from Spain and one night he comes over and that's all he wanted to download.... He's one helluva DJ skillz-wise and technical-wise.... I'm not in to his hardcore stuff ...more so b/c the quality wasn't great and all, but I'd love to hear him live. Spain is king for hardcore...

Also, I've been getting music from Technoradio.org and tranceaddict.com

On the home page, TR has monster large techno sets from Selway, Tony Rohr, and various other record label members....all live but without crowd noise! There's like 40 sets all right there!

Tranceaddict needs no intro for trance fans... it to has live sets from Tiesto, PVD, and the usual... There are singles dating back to last year... Plenty of stuff that gets updated plenty.

I'll go SoulSeeking and check out your stuff, WhitePony... excellent links man!!

CTC Command
December 29th, 2002, 12:14 AM
I am a huge techno fan (and a huge jazz fan, and huge Dead fan, and huge speed metal fan and a...well, you get the idea). I have a few suggestions that haven't been mentioned yet that range the whole spectrum--I don't care about sub-genres, as long as it's interesting, musical, sick and/or twisted, I'm all for it.

As far as I'm concerned, Meat Beat Manifesto started it all. Jack Danger's best old stuff--imho--is MBM's 99%--Jungle before Jungle even had a name. Listen to it and see if you don't feel like you need to take shower afterwards...His more recent Subliminal Sandwich and Actual Sounds And Voices are also quite quite excellento. I caught MBM live about 4 years ago--if they ever come out of hibernation don't miss them.

Two recent live shows--Crystal Method (last spring or summer I think) and DJ Shadow last month. Both were f*cking awesome. TCM--I've never before seen techno performers play their instruments like a rock band before--I thought they were going to fly their keyboards right off the stage. And Shadow--at least 500 records slipped effortlessly through his hands in a seamless extravaganza of sound, and the video behind him was equally hilarious and intense. He should be coming out again spring and summer 2003--definitely drop whatever you're doing and go see him. Both TCM and Shadow have great studio recordings as well.

The rest I will simply list, and this is in no particular order:

808 State, Junkie XL, Future Sounds Of London, Dylan Rhymes, Aphrodite, Emergency Broadcast Network, Air, Banco de Gaia, Timo Maas, Cujo, Autechre, Pressure Drop, Badmarsh & Shri, Medeski, Martin & Wood, LTJ Bukem, Red Snapper, Matthew Herbert, Propellerheads, Purple Penguin, Alex Reece, BT, Hive, Sasha, Kruder and Dorfmeister, Daft Punk, Buscemi, Mark Stewart (another of the "Old Ones"), Octoscope, Armand Van Helden, Photek, Transglobal Underground, MC 900 Foot Jesus, Felix Da Housecat, Bassment Jaxx, Jose Padilla, Boards Of Canada, Aphex Twin, Mint Royale, David Holmes, Chemical Brothers, Portishead, Fatboy Slim (AKA Norman Cook), DJ Dara, DJ Irene, DJ Spooky, DJ Mark Farina, Tricky, The Delta, Fila Brasillia, Groove Armada, Tosca, Chicane, William Orbit, Goldie (be careful on the spelling, because there's a realy crappy rapper out there named "Goldy"), Paul Van Dyke, Koop, Flanger, Ministry, Contact The Commander, any of White Zombie's remixes or KMFDM's remixes of other bands, Sun Project, Infected Mushroom, Theivery Corporation, Brian Eno, Tarmak, Four Tet, Lionrock, Chris Zippel, Spring Heel Jack, The Orb, Mouse On Mars, Josh Wink, Prodigy, Curve, Sabres Of Paradise, Jazzanova, Martin Denny, Tosca, and Underworld.

Also search for anything "illbient," "cafe del mar," or "ibiza."

Thanks for all the great suggestions not aforementioned--should keep me busy for at least a day or so LOL:cross

serrebi101
December 29th, 2002, 01:34 AM
I'm not really a fan of techno, I like a bit of it, Ian vandell is good, but I don't consider that techno, I consider that euro, anyway, I was wonderin if anyone knew of ahttp://rs.tele2.ee:8000
and that lets me listen to the music I like.ny good places to find remixes of euro, dance, and stuff like that, yeah, I guess I like more comercial stuff, but none of the stuff I listen to will be played in north america, I listen to

serrebi101
December 29th, 2002, 01:42 AM
my post didn't turn out right, lol my dam screen reader was acting up , again. ANyway I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get some dj remixes of some euro, freestyle, and dance music? I serriusly don't consider ian vandell [hope I spelled that right] techno, but whatever, lol I currently listen to
http://rs.tele2.ee:8000
Its a station that plays mostly euro, and dance music, but sometimes fucking gay top40 gets on there, but well, the music is mixed well, that's why I listen to it, not mixed like blended together, but mixed like no silence.
iLol, its in estonian, the promos and stuff, but anyway, I currently like Ian vandell, Orian2, and groove coverage, just to give you guys an idea about my musical tastes.

serrebi101
December 29th, 2002, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by phalkon30
siskabush, welcome to the world of ZP!

its sorta cool, I didnt think anybody had ever heard of Infected mushroom, even on techno sites, you just dont hear about that group often, but then you guys....lol

btw, if you want some good stuff by them, my favs are The Shen, and Enter the Matrix

and Rickio, I think ill stay away from streamload, if i have a file i want to give to a friend (I'm the only one with broadband), i just burn it on cd and give it to them in person, thanx anyway tho

I got a ? for some of you techno fans, ever heard of Milk Inc.? look for "walk on water", i think its a kickass song, great female vocals, great driving beat, and if you can find the "hit mix 2000" song, its even better IMO, its live, sorta cool
LOL! when you said milk inc, that was the first song that came to mind! I love that song! Land of the living is another good song by them, and there biggest hit here in canada was wide awake, its an ok song. Another good song by milk inc is never again, its soo catchy.

blury
December 29th, 2002, 10:27 AM
check out the Soulseek Electronic Music forum:
here (http://www.remmelt.com/slskboard/index.php?act=SF&f=2)

you'll find a lot of recommendations there as well.

and why not use SoulSeek as your file-sharing program while you are at it? You are not likely to find Guns N Roses on there (seriously!). In fact, for anyting other than techno use Kazaa - I HAD to when my sister wanted the 'Live Era 87-93' CD by GnR.

I'm sharing over 250 mixes and sets on soulseek....
soulseek nickname: blury

search "tronik" and you'll find lots of stuff....

"tronik" is a team of internet filesharers who rip "high-quality" techno music and distribute every song with their name.
very good wildcard search if you are not to keen on names of new songs.

I wont be satisfied until I buy "Emotional Technology" by BT next June in 2003 - yes I'm waiting for that long! BT is in no way "techno"..... I can't even define some of his tunes.

for more info on BT go here (http://bt-network.org/)

Monoid
December 29th, 2002, 11:31 AM
"Ian van Dahl" is a DANCE project by two Netherlanders, its in no way TECHNO. Most of you, except for a few people, here dont have a clue about Techno.


TECHNO :

Adam Beyer, Cari Lekebusch, Ritchie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Dave Clark, Ben Sims, Andrea Parker, Umek, Surgeon, Heiko Laux, Gayle San, Basic Channel, Regis, The Advent, Glenn Wilson, Mhonolink, Speedy J, Joel Mull, Plastikman, Terence Fixmer, Peter Ford

Etnies
December 29th, 2002, 11:39 AM
Anything in the global underground series is good (theres about 20 ish albums so far)

the music is harder than stuff like cheesy ian van dahl or milk inc and consists of dj's playing there sets at different locations across the globe.

dj's include paul oakendfold, dave seaman, sasha, digweed and lots more.

blury
December 29th, 2002, 01:18 PM
Adam Beyer's last EM was super!
Try looking for some of these tracks guys:

Essential Mix (2002-12-15) - Adam Beyer

01. Adam Beyer - Ignition Key (Speedy J Remix) [Truesoul]
02. Chris Liebing - Eye of the Storm [Clau]
03. Henrik B presents Teorema - Seven A [Illgorhythm]
04. Adam Beyer and Henrik B - Where Are We Going [Illgorthythm]
05. Ben Sims and Mark Broom - *ID* [Theory]
06. Cave - Street Carnival [Ingoma]
07. Paul Mac - Corner of the Plate [Primate]
08. Hardcell - *ID* [Zync]
09. Fredrik Almquist & RND Technologies - ID [Memetic]
10. Chester Beatty - Turia (B1) [Disq]
11. Renato Cohen - Pontape [Intec]
12. Garbage - *ID* [Warp Records]
13. *ID*
14. Burner - *ID* [Spirit Fuel]
15. Technasia - Hydra (Renato Cohen Remix) [Technasia Records]
16. Marco Bailey - Capture(Adam Beyer & Henrik B Remix) [MB Elektronics]
17. Smith & Selway - Move (Adam Beyer & Lenk Remix) [Intec]
18. Dave Clarke - The Wolf [Skint]
19. Frank Biazzi - Turbulence [Lupp]
20. Martyn Ware - Bitchin' [White Label]
21. Marco Bailey - Sorbit [Primate]
22. James Ruskin - After Dark [Blue Print]
23. Renato Cohen - Abelhas [Noise Music]
24. Chris Liebing - Stigmata 10 (B2) [Stigmata]
25. Thomas P Heckmann - EBM 1 [Wavescape]
26. Cold Dust - Rio Grande [Red Seal]
27. Damon Wild - Voyeur (The Advent Remix) [Synewave]
28. Paula Temple - Conctact [Materials]
29. Thomas Krome - Bitches from Hell [Corb]
30. Henrik B - *ID* [Illgorhythm]
31. Adam Beyer & Henrik B - Perfect Match [Drumcode]
32. Alexander Kowalski featuring Raz Ohara - Hot Spot (The Advent's Bitch For The Night Remix) [Kanzerlamt]
33. The Advent - Hi-Jack [Tresor]
34. Danilo Vigorito - Vision [Primate]
35. Ratio - Untitled (Angel Molina Remix) [Central]
36. Brain Zentz - D-Clash [Intec]
37. *ID*
38. Dot Allison - We're only science (Slam Remix) [Mantra Recordings]
39. Hertz & Johan Bacto - Hektadrone [Zyncgrooves]
40. Dirty - Dirty (E-Dancer Remix) [Junior London] --->WICKED!
41. Hardcell and Johan Bacto - Panattack [Theory]
42. DJ Misjah - Inca Trail [Jericho]
43. Planetary Assault Sysmtes - From Above [Peacefrog]

nasrules
December 29th, 2002, 01:51 PM
im only into rock an hiphop mainly but moby is good i have to admit. ive never heard any more techno really!

grab_grab_the_haddock
December 29th, 2002, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Monoid
"Ian van Dahl" is a DANCE project by two Netherlanders, its in no way TECHNO. Most of you, except for a few people, here dont have a clue about Techno.


TECHNO :

Adam Beyer, Cari Lekebusch, Ritchie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Dave Clark, Ben Sims, Andrea Parker, Umek, Surgeon, Heiko Laux, Gayle San, Basic Channel, Regis, The Advent, Glenn Wilson, Mhonolink, Speedy J, Joel Mull, Plastikman, Terence Fixmer, Peter Ford


i dont think many people really CARE what a precise definition of techno might or might not include.
genre to me is just a language of convenience - its useful to be able to break music down into genres classical, folk, electronic and so on. But when the categorization becomes an exercise in hairsplitting pigeonholing i think most people just switch off - except the ultra geeks that is.

CTC Command
December 29th, 2002, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Monoid
"Ian van Dahl" is a DANCE project by two Netherlanders, its in no way TECHNO. Most of you, except for a few people, here dont have a clue about Techno.


TECHNO :

Adam Beyer, Cari Lekebusch, Ritchie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Dave Clark, Ben Sims, Andrea Parker, Umek, Surgeon, Heiko Laux, Gayle San, Basic Channel, Regis, The Advent, Glenn Wilson, Mhonolink, Speedy J, Joel Mull, Plastikman, Terence Fixmer, Peter Ford

A bit condescending, eh? I was really enjoying the sense of shared wonder here before you came along and pissed in the pool.

From my supposedly extremely limited knowledge of "techno," didn't this all come out of the Detroit music scene in the mid-80's? I suggest Monoid take a road trip to the Detroit Historical Museum's Stark Hall and check out the exhibit currently running through June 2004 "Techno: Detroit's Gift to the World" for more enlightenment than I care to provide. Or he can go click onto http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno_music and start an argument with them about what "techno" is or, apparently more importantly to him, what it is not.

We could sit around and argue till the cows come home what constitutes "techno." But the fragmentation/sub-genre-ization of techno has, imho, almost rendered the term meaningless in the way the Monoid seems to want to employ it (as a club to beat people over the head with). However, information is the key--I haven't heard of half the people on his recommended list. Now I have, and now I can go check them out. And for that I thank him. But I don't appreciate being told I'm clueless here--I only write the shit in my spare time! I just sent another CD's worth of tunes out to the copywrite office last week...How much "techno music" has Monoid composed lately?

blury
December 29th, 2002, 03:18 PM
You can simply call this type of music "Techno" for lack of a better word. Why do people get petrified when "Techno" is used instead of "Trance" or "Breakbeat"?

I personally call all of it "Electronic Music." ..... not a big deal...

I tend to go by the artist name rather then the genre.

DiddlySquat
December 29th, 2002, 03:29 PM
Here's where i got hooked on a few groups:

http://genres.mp3.com/music/electronic/

Sample and try some different ones...there are a TON of choices

Monoid
December 29th, 2002, 05:15 PM
These sub-subgenres exist because they sound different, simple as that !? A "Ian van Dahl" record sounds nothing like a Basic Channel or Adam Beyer record !? As a Limp Bizkit record doesnt sound like a Opeth or Mastodon record ?!
Sorry, if I offended anyone, but, I hate it when clueless people talk shit about my favourite Genre. :bk

blury
December 29th, 2002, 05:31 PM
Look at it this way: it's a whole lot easier than having to describe how it sounds in sentences...

Siskabush
December 29th, 2002, 05:45 PM
If ya like Infected mushroom, you would like Front line assembly

Look up Plasticity. good song.

Also, i consider Techno a different way of saying electronica.
Just like "Metal" can mean any genre to anyone. :D

Monoid
December 29th, 2002, 08:57 PM
Oh yeah, I composed lots of TECHNO music lateley, look out for it in your favourite (vinyl) record store :)

toddot4u
December 29th, 2002, 09:00 PM
here im gonna give u alist of good techno stuff



DJ ENCORE, DJ SAMMY, ATB, DARUDE,
CHEMICAL BROTHERS, CRYSTAL METHOD, DAFTPUNK, DJ QUICKSILVER, KIM ENGLISH,
ZOMBIE NATION,

Krell
December 29th, 2002, 09:15 PM
toddot4u

Are you fron Houston , Tx?

toddot4u
December 29th, 2002, 09:18 PM
yea y?

Krell
December 29th, 2002, 09:20 PM
I used to hang at the two coolest coffee shops, toward Rice dist, Westheimer and Dunlevy.

Empire Cafe, and Brazil. Those were the days
.

toddot4u
December 29th, 2002, 09:22 PM
O pimp how old are u man? what were u doing here?

Krell
December 29th, 2002, 09:24 PM
hispanic chics

I LUV the galleria

toddot4u
December 29th, 2002, 09:27 PM
same here dude the galeria is pimp and the new football stadium is tite houston texans are not bad

Krell
December 29th, 2002, 09:28 PM
gotta go burn, 120Gb of crap, no more hd space, catch you laters

toddot4u
December 29th, 2002, 09:35 PM
peace man hey my aim sn is:
toddot4u


ttyl

kevoid
December 29th, 2002, 09:59 PM
Techno sucks! Go grab a rock CD! My avatar has a good band on it.. check them out.

Monoid
December 30th, 2002, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by kevoid
Techno sucks! Go grab a rock CD! My avatar has a good band on it.. check them out.

YOU SUCKS ! And toddot4u listed only commercial TRANCE ! Jeezus...

Vlet
December 30th, 2002, 08:37 AM
I listen to a lot of electronic music but I'm not all too fond of the whole oakenfold / sasha group there. I listen to a lot of IDM but that's a whole different breed of electronic music.

My one suggestion which I must say, if you don't pick this up then you are not only missing out on some of (what I consider to be) the best electro out there but one of the best albums of the late 90's: Underworld: Beaucoup Fish

...Lately I've been listening to a lot of Autechre, Aphex Twin, Board of Canada

dsllsd
December 30th, 2002, 08:48 AM
Yeah, Check out Bad Boy Bill, or Carl Cox

Vlet
December 30th, 2002, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by kevoid
Techno sucks! Go grab a rock CD! My avatar has a good band on it.. check them out.

Blah

same old same old same old



Make up your mind
And i'll make up mine
Don't worry about me i'll be fine
Those words that you said to me
Why wasen't I listening
I wish i haden't met you at all


sing those oh so inspired lyrics while playing F# E B

...If ya ask me, Rock sucks

grab_grab_the_haddock
December 30th, 2002, 09:08 AM
now lets not have things slide into a "my music rules your music sucks" debacle, these things are subjective, and every genre has at least something to offer IMHO. rock has been around longer and has a terrific heritage, but theres some great electronic stuff too...actually i think anyone who just likes one kind of music is missing out on alot, theres so much great stuff to be had in almost every genre, if your open minded enough to try it out.

im also a big fan of aphex and autechre, but i reckon the categorization fascists might have something to say about you labelling them as techno

phalkon30
December 30th, 2002, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by serrebi101
LOL! when you said milk inc, that was the first song that came to mind! I love that song! Land of the living is another good song by them, and there biggest hit here in canada was wide awake, its an ok song. Another good song by milk inc is never again, its soo catchy.

yep....Ive got all of those, I think they're all good, but the live version is waaaay better IMHO, just sounds cool as hell

as for classifying music....frankly, who gives a fuck, lets just say its electronic from now on....I hate it when ppl classify that deep, its just stupid

but thats just my oppinion

aphex is good to, I like the starwars trance mix...frickin cool, and a bunch of other ones like funny little man

and yeah grabgrab, its "ambient", get your fuckin facts straight :P

Monoid
December 31st, 2002, 12:35 PM
"Star Wars Trance Mix" isnt by Aphex Twin, that shows how much you know ! And about classifying music, I give a PHUCK !! Frankly, because its insulting to name douchbags like MILK INC in the same sentence with people like Autechre e.t.c.

Krell
December 31st, 2002, 12:51 PM
I guess thats why youre so underground huh ?

grab_grab_the_haddock
December 31st, 2002, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Monoid
"Star Wars Trance Mix" isnt by Aphex Twin, that shows how much you know ! And about classifying music, I give a PHUCK !! Frankly, because its insulting to name douchbags like MILK INC in the same sentence with people like Autechre e.t.c.

haha he said that so earnestly he dont even realise how comical he appears

"oh man how COULD you put milk inc. in the same bag as aphex twin"

like i said before, no-one gives a shit about these silly little sub-categories of sub-categories of categories except you. You are the aural equivalent of a stamp collector.

phalkon30
December 31st, 2002, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by Monoid
"Star Wars Trance Mix" isnt by Aphex Twin, that shows how much you know ! And about classifying music, I give a PHUCK !! Frankly, because its insulting to name douchbags like MILK INC in the same sentence with people like Autechre e.t.c.

Well, I guess thats the last time I "Phuck" with somebody of obvious superior inteligence

I only hope I can get to sleep tonight knowing how stupid I am

Honestly, I could care less about all those silly little sub cats, anything thats trance, ambient, jungle, drum, etc is techno to me, thats what 98 percent of the world would classify it as also

Sephiroth
December 31st, 2002, 05:57 PM
I dont have categories because they are dumb..

The new sasha albumn is great.

Orbital- Beached is a great track so is some of their other stuff, theres also DJ Tiesto whos pretty good, and i could go on and on..

Monoid
January 1st, 2003, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by grab_grab_the_haddock
haha he said that so earnestly he dont even realise how comical he appears

"oh man how COULD you put milk inc. in the same bag as aphex twin"

like i said before, no-one gives a shit about these silly little sub-categories of sub-categories of categories except you. You are the aural equivalent of a stamp collector.


Hey please, why u are still replying to this thread, if you dont care faggot, this music means alot to me ok, so please fuck off and listen to your favourtie trendy "Alternative / Prog Rock" band

The Hunter
January 1st, 2003, 05:04 PM
Monoid, if this music means so much to you, just tame down the rudeness, and it wont be closed, or have posts removed.

CTC Command
January 2nd, 2003, 12:37 AM
Monoid, since you seem to know what is it that categorizes music as techno, perhaps you could enlighten instead of insult.
I have a few questions--if you could answer these it might put my mind at rest.

Does techno have to be completely composed digitally or can analogue or even standard musical instruments be included?
Tempo: What time signature(s) are "techno?" What is the requisite BPM range?
Is it's basic structure built first around a beat/series of beats or from a melody/series of melodies?
Do songs include major transitions or are changes allowed only modulate gradually?
Are the melodic components linear in structure and goal oriented or are they introduced immediately and more less static and repetitive?
Timbral combinations simple and dark, complex and bright or combinations of both?
Can techno artists employ modulation and transition generators or do you consider that cheating?
Are TR/TB emulators acceptable or does one have to have particular synths and samplers?
What kinds of signal processors are utilized in a techno composition?
Are mixing programs are acceptable to you? Which ones--Acid?Syntrillium? Cakewalk?
Can techno have vocals or is techno purely instrumental?
Does it have to be entirely an original composition to be considered techno or can techno include samples and loops from other sources?
What themes can it espouse--technological/scifi only?
Does growing popularity of a particular artist diminish their credibility?

Monoid
January 2nd, 2003, 11:16 AM
Does techno have to be completely composed digitally or can analogue or even standard musical instruments be included?

Analog or Digital, that depends which sound you prefer, of course you can include standard musical instruments, listen to Derrick May's "strings of life" a tru techno classic

Tempo: What time signature(s) are "techno?" What is the requisite BPM range?

Most techno today is around 130 - 145 BPM, of course there are no rules.

Is it's basic structure built first around a beat/series of beats or from a melody/series of melodies?

That depends, on what kind of Techno u wanna produce, tribal techno is more beat oriented, minimal techno builds slowly, only using a few elements !?

Do songs include major transitions or are changes allowed only modulate gradually?

That really depends, you wont find big changes in minimal techno in the vain of minimalistic composers such as La Monte Young, Terry Riley, Steve Reich

Are the melodic components linear in structure and goal oriented or are they introduced immediately and more less static and repetitive?

That really depends, we are not talking about progressive Trance here, so see above !

Timbral combinations simple and dark, complex and bright or combinations of both?

few elements as possible in the
music to achieve as much as possible...using less to achieve
more..

Can techno artists employ modulation and transition generators or do you consider that cheating?

You introduce randomness into your personalized context.

Are TR/TB emulators acceptable or does one have to have particular synths and samplers?

I dont think the drugged up crowed gives phuck. Also those are pretty expensive nowadys, have shitty midi timing etc, so it be wise to use a software recreation.

What kinds of signal processors are utilized in a techno composition?

A Mac & DSP Card, EQ, Crossover, of course anything that alters the Waveform, again there are no rules !?

Are mixing programs are acceptable to you? Which ones--Acid?Syntrillium? Cakewalk?

Of course, all you need is a computer nowaydys, so, it really doesnt matter which one u use, if u are comfortable with it, Id recommand T-Racks for mastering etc.

Can techno have vocals or is techno purely instrumental?

I think vocal samples are A OK !

Does it have to be entirely an original composition to be considered techno or can techno include samples and loops from other sources?

Electronic music relays heavily on sampling.

What themes can it espouse--technological/scifi only?

Everything, see "No Ufos" for reference

Does growing popularity of a particular artist diminish their credibility?

Only if he starts to play Trance, kekekeke

TC75580
March 26th, 2003, 03:08 AM
Originally posted by grab_grab_the_haddock
like i said before, no-one gives a shit about these silly little sub-categories of sub-categories of categories except you.
First of all they aren't sub-categories of sub-categories...

ELECTRONIC MUSIC / ELECTRONICA (genre)

techno (sub-genre)
trance (sub-genre)

I'm not sure what Milk Inc. is because I have not heard of it / them before, but either way, by what monoid said, they must be in two different sub-genres.

And I do care about placing music into categories, because it allows for easier and correct describing of music. If you start mixing them together, you won't know what is what!!

Let's say we labeled everything in this thread as electronica. Well now, you want to know the difference between upbeat music that relies heavily on percussion and minimal melodies, and downtempo, relaxing music. The easiest way to differentiate the two is to place them into different sub-genres. In this case, many could fit my descriptions, but generally one would be some form of ambient techno or house, and the other some form of drum n bass.

Another point-- if you were talking about rock, you'd probably be able to point out the difference between hardcore punk and metal. Why not, then, does this not apply to electronic music, which is merely a different genre? The degree of knowledge in this area is generally of a lesser extent, but does that make it OK?

Don't mistake me as coming across harsh or negative here, I posted merely to point out the reason for categorising music. Monoid was right, although he didn't exactly inform you in the best way.

I also realize I'm the first person to post to this thread in over three months, but thank 12345678910 for linking to this thread! :wings

underpaid mo'fo
March 26th, 2003, 04:17 AM
all i can is SCOOTER

Gicapster
March 30th, 2003, 03:42 PM
I'm not sure what Milk Inc. is because I have not heard of it / them before, but either way, by what monoid said, they must be in two different sub-genres.

I think you can call that vocal trance ;)

And I would like to add some to DJ@zz@'s list:

Dance Nation - You Take Me Away [Flasrider Mix]
Aura Project - Temple [Scotty Extended Remix]
Base Attack - Everybody [Club Version]
chicane - love on the run [blank and jones remix]
Groove Coverage - The End [Axel Konrad or Special D Mix]
Jan Wayne - More Than A Feelin [Club or Dub Mix]
Floorfilla - Sister Golden Hair [DJ Cerla Floorfilla Mix]
4 strings - let it rain [dj 4 strings vocal mix]
4 clubbers - someday [future breeze vs junkfood junkies mix]
Abel Ramos - One More ( Pulsedriver vs Rocco Mix )
Baracuda - Damn [Pulsedriver And Bass T Vs. Rocco Remix]
Blizzard Brothers VS. AC DC - Thunderstruck [Rocco Remix]
bolenski beat-youre my heart youre my soul [yanous party on remix]
dance kings vs elissa - right here waiting [club mix]
Digital Rockers - I Believe [Pulsedriver Remix]
DJ Scotty Vs. Full Gainer - I Do It 4 You [Extended Mix]
Future Breeze - Heaven above [rave mix]
Julia - Heaven Is A Place On Earth [Johnboy Walton Mix]
Kai Tracid - For just one Day (Radio Version)
Master Blaster - How Old Are You [Tabassco Mix]
Miss distess x - the beat goes [derler and klitzing rmx]
Rico Bass - Cold As Ice [Whitelabel Club Mix]
Rocco - Drop The Bass [Indurro vs. Chris Da House Remix]
special d - come with me (club_mix)
Tabassco - Rock The Deckz [Club Mix]
Topmodelz - Fly on the wings of love (Redwing Remix)
Treesh - Brighter Day [Flashrider Remix]
silicon brothers - million miles from home [groove coverage rmx]

Hope you'll enjoy :)

Gicapster

Lamourlady
March 30th, 2003, 03:55 PM
well, i love Blank & Jones - After Love and Rank 1's- The Awakening (The Cosmic Gate Remix)!

it must be trance that i like then.
but of course i like some from all the genres, as u can tell from the playlist below...mainly i just wanna dance, period.
will have to check out some of the artist/songs from this thread.

Gigi D'Agostino - Bla Bla Bla
Who Da Funk - Shiny Disco Balls
Klea - Tic Toc
Daft Punk - Around the World
Moby - Bodyrock
Lasgo - Alone (Radio Edit)
Tim Deluxe - It Just Won't Do
Groove Armada - Purple Haze
Svenson & Gielen - Answer The Question [Radio Edit]
Moby - In My Heart
TGP feat. Candy - Fly me to the Moon (DJ's @ Work remix)
No Doubt - Underneath It All
DJ's at work - Time 2 wonder
Ferry Corsten - Punk
Minimalistix - Close Cover [radio edit]
Orbital - The Box (Full Album Version)
Sun Trust - How Insensitive
Jurassic 5 - What's Golden (album)
E-Type - Life
Atlantic Ocean - Waterfall
Jamiroquai - You Give Me Something
Jamiroquai - Deeper Underground
Raven Maize - Fascinated
Sub Sub - Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)
Piet Blank & Jaspa Jones - After Love (short)
Rank1 - Awakening (Cosmic Gate Remix)
Svenson &Gielen - We Know What You Did ( Radio Edit)
4 Clubbers - Children (Club Radio Edit)
The Silence - Mike Koglin
sunscreem vs. push - please save me (video mix)
Blank & Jones - The Nightfly
Aeon And BMi - Masterpiece Of Emotion
Olive - You're Not Alone
Galleon - So I Begin
way out west - the fall
Superman Lovers - Starlight
Dirty Vegas - Days Go By (Full Vocal Mix)
New Order - Bizarre Love Triangle
Daft Punk ft. DJ Sneak - Digital Love
The Kinky Boyz-Definitive Mix - The Only Way Is Up
Fat Boy Slim - Love Island
The Girl Next Door - Salsoul Nugget (If U Wanna)
Chemical Brothers - Star Guitar
Urban Cookie Collective - The Key, The Secret
Adamski - Killer
Silver - Turn The Tide
Basement Jaxx - Romeo
Tricky - Evolution Revolution Love
New Order - Confusion
Faithless - Insomnia
Basement Jaxx - Jump N' Shout
Basement Jaxx - Rendez-Vu
Kai Tracid - Life is too Short
Voodoo & Serano - Blood Is Pumpin'
Jean Michel Jarre - Zoolook
Chemical Brothers - Under the Influence
New Order - Blue Monday (Hardfloor Remix)
Prodigy - Voodoo People
Fatboy Slim - Because We Can
Chemical Brothers - Let Forever Be
Sylver - Forever In Love
Delerium - Silence
Crystal Method - Comin' Back
Prodigy - Out of Space
Groove Armada - Shaking That Ass (Fatboy Slim
Kay Cee - I feel you
New Order - Crystal
Blank & Jones - After Love
Basement Jaxx - Bingo Bango
Anastacia - I'm Outta Love
Mekajinn - CaLL
Gary Numan - Cars
Crazygoat - SVR (Nyaha Mix)
Basement Jaxx - Yo-Yo
Daft Punk - Da Funk
Daft Punk - Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
enigma - silence must be heard
Fatboy Slim - Funk Show Brother
New Order - Blue Monday
Fatboy Slim - Praise You
Fatboy Slim - Weapon of Choice

Undermind
March 30th, 2003, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by DJ@zz@
I wouldn't say trance and techno are sub genres of electronica music. I would say trance,techno and electronica are all different genres. My favourite type of music is trance it sounds totally different from other genres, that is if you listen to proper trance tracks and not one's that are really dance tracks and are labelled as being trance. Here are some proper good trance tunes try and find them to listen too. i'm sure it won't be too hard 4 you to find them lol.



technically, they're all "styles" of the genre "elecronica" if you don't believe me look it up, it is what is widely accepted in the music industry, I care about it, but I don't expect everyone else to, so if you don't great and if you do great, I'm just stating this so everyone will be a little more informed and stop bitching about it, not meant against anyone personally

Gicapster
March 31st, 2003, 01:52 PM
hm, this thread gets interesting with al those songlists. Keep em coming! :fire

TC75580
March 31st, 2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by DJ@zz@
I wouldn't say trance and techno are sub genres of electronica music. I would say trance,techno and electronica are all different genres.
The sounds are made electronically, therefore they fall under electronic music.

Thanks for the song lists, I'll be sure to check them out.

eivioolla
March 31st, 2003, 03:06 PM
Here's a great site about Goa and Psychedelic Trance: http://www.psynews.org/ which must be my favourite electronic music sub-genre.

EvilHamsterOfDeath
March 31st, 2003, 03:15 PM
the techno hippys are good :)

iq214
March 31st, 2003, 03:18 PM
I guess you should start with some good old Goa, thats always a safe bet and by no means a bad choice. Go to a decent dealer and ask for anything on the old Dragonfly label, especially ask for Man With No Name and similar composers. Ya wont go wrong there!

eivioolla
March 31st, 2003, 03:21 PM
iq214 you seem to have a great taste, I just saw mwnn live a few weeks ago btw... It was awesome. :)

CTC Command
March 31st, 2003, 05:25 PM
This thread is so much less annoying now that dildoid took a long hike...Great lists, and more new names to check out! Thanks to 12345678910 for starting this thread then reminding us about it, and especially to all the recent contributors--ya's all gets z'bouncing frogs!

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I want to toss out some suggestiones--I know I've plugged these before somewhere, maybe even already on this thread but I'm too lazy and in too much of a hurry to get this posted and run back out the door into the real world where I have more homework than hours of the day left...but these are good

DJ Shadow's latest The Private Press, which I saw him do live at Lupo's in Providence a few months back--just fucking incredible. There's a couple of good tracks on the studio CD, and anything online that was snagged live off the last tour, definitely check it out. Then there's Jack Dangers Variaciones Espectrales, number 5 of the "Series 7" project. Dangers is working on a new Meat Beat Manifesto release, and if he tours, don't miss it. Insane shit live, just insane.

Stay chill, peoples. Keep the BPM up and your ear to to the underground.

eivioolla
March 31st, 2003, 06:15 PM
Well, the 'dildoid' might have been a little annoying but it doesn't change the facts in his posts. I'm no expert in all these subgenres and I admit that they have got a 'little' out of hand in electronic music but still, what's the point having a thread called 'techno' and then list anything from moby to fatboyslim which are nothing but mtv pop music.

Lamourlady
April 1st, 2003, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by eivioolla
what's the point having a thread called 'techno' and then list anything from moby to fatboyslim which are nothing but mtv pop music.

hey, to each his own, buddy!
but neither started off that way.
they were both underground, struggling artist, just as most here in this thread listed r.
just because they become popular doesn't make them bad or non-techno.
but we still haven't established the definition of that, now have we.
it's just a playlist for cryin out loud of music i like, i stated that my list came from a variety of genre.
but i see u r gonna get your panies in a twine, cause they r listed in a thread entitled, "techno".....oh no.......run for the hills.
oh, my bad.......that's metal.......Iron Maiden.....whilst though have a cow about that too?????

rsloane1
April 2nd, 2003, 04:15 AM
to the people making comments like "no one cares about your shitty sub genre's"

i'm sorry, but that is really pretty rude, and rather stupid as well.

It's like me coming into a thread about rock, and lumping sum 41 and blink 182 in with "underground" punk bands, or comparing death metal to acoustic stuff. It would a) make me look like a closed minded twat, and b) offend/frustrate people who were into that kind of music.

Also, to atteampt to get rid of another misconception..All electronic music is NOT CALLED TECHNO. Techno is a specific sub genre of electronica/dance music, people like mauro picotto, dj rush etc are techno, not dj sammy, darude etc.

There are LOADS of sub genres of electronica, and many sub genres of those sub genres :;) (eg, drum and bass, trance, goa, techno, hard house, prog, house, ambient, lounge, etc, etc, the list goes on).

Personally, i listen to what is called TRANCE, and prog.

there are a lot of sub genre's of trance, such as melocid, cyber, psy, goa, uplifting, hard etc etc.

some trance/prog artists i would recccomend include katana, sasha, digweed, dj tiesto, paul van dyk, alphazone, cosmic gate, cosmicman, gabrielle & dresson, lemon 8, james holden, gouryella, ferry corsten, system f, darren tate, jurgen vries, chicane, marco v, airscape, airbase, icone, armin van burrin, astral projection, guyver, S.H.O.K.K, elementals, dumonde, dj astrid, push, M.I.K.E, airwave, ronski speed, nu-nrg, solar stone etc.

if you want any other reccos, just pm me :)


anyhow, hope that little rant helped some people :)

(btw, you wont find a lot of that stuff on kazaa, soulseek, winmx & DC are some places to start)

some web based TRANCE dl sites to check out incluse www.tranceaddict.com (which is often legal, since they generally consult labels and often artists before putting up downloads) & www.thesoundsofeurope.com.

WhitePony
April 2nd, 2003, 05:29 AM
Mmm...still going, eh?

Well, here´s a link I may have posted before MercuryServer (http://www.mercuryserver.com) . If you want some quality house music, look no further.

As for song lists, I´ll give you the tracklisting to a mix Cd I just recently did :

1 - Infusion "Legacy (Junkie XL Mix)"
2 - Amber "Anyway (Men are from Mars) (Steve Porter Mix)"
3 - GrayArea "One for the Road (Gabriel & Dresden Mix)"
4 - NuGen "Braaj (Lemon8 Mix)"
5 - Isham Samawi "Kakon"
6 - Amani & Teapot "2 days in The Desert"
7 - Peace Division "The Voice"
8 - Victor Calderone "The Drive"
9 - Electric Tease Vs. Mosquito "Sensation (Piliavin & Zimbardo Mix)
10 - Paul Hammill "Access Psychatron (Mark Goodwin Remix)"

As the Oscar G & Ralph Falcon track "Dark Beat" goes : "I feel it deep inside me, I won´t deny it, can´t hide, ´cause I´m addicted to drums, and I´m a slave to the dark beat".

Undermind
April 2nd, 2003, 05:53 AM
ok, this is getting pretty gay now, I think everyone gets it by now, and if you don't who cares, please continue on with your life, but please don't post here acting like you know everything about everything, if you know what you're talking about and want to share some artists with us then please do, but basically if you're gonna list stuff like Moby (nothing against him, he just looks funny), then please think twice. Basically, some of us care and some of us don't, so who cares, just listen to whatever the hell makes you happy, but for the love of God, please don't run around calling it all "Techno", if not for me, then for yourself, so that you reflect some music knowledge onto others

eivioolla
April 2nd, 2003, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by Lamourlady but neither started off that way.
they were both underground, struggling artist, just as most here in this thread listed r.
just because they become popular doesn't make them bad or non-techno.

but i see u r gonna get your panies in a twine, cause they r listed in a thread entitled, "techno".....oh no.......run for the hills.
oh, my bad.......that's metal.......Iron Maiden.....whilst though have a cow about that too?????

Oh my, no need to be so defensive. In fact I did think about asking why don't people go and list Iron Maiden or Metallica here just as well. And I didn't mean that something isn't techno because it's popular (although you can't hear techno on mtv, that's the way it just is, at least for now). I don't agree that moby or fatboyslim or madonna or whatever ever was techno.

I really don't care if someone lists hard-house, trance, ambient, psychedelic tech-trance or whatever under 'techno' but if you're gonna list anything from Rolling Stones to SOAD it just becomes meaningless.

rsloane1
April 3rd, 2003, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by Undermind
ok, this is getting pretty gay now, I think everyone gets it by now, and if you don't who cares, please continue on with your life, but please don't post here acting like you know everything about everything, if you know what you're talking about and want to share some artists with us then please do, but basically if you're gonna list stuff like Moby (nothing against him, he just looks funny), then please think twice. Basically, some of us care and some of us don't, so who cares, just listen to whatever the hell makes you happy, but for the love of God, please don't run around calling it all "Techno", if not for me, then for yourself, so that you reflect some music knowledge onto others

Thankyou.
Moby, fatboy slim, dj sammy, ARE NOT TECHNO. SO please, don't go calling all electronic music techno, because it isn't.

If you are calling moby, dj sammy, darude, jan wayne, scooter, fatboy slim etc techno, then in all honesty, you have probably never actually heard a techno song.

Rickio
April 3rd, 2003, 03:42 AM
I remember when electronic music was beginning and soon therafter all the splintering into sub genres.

My feeling is when anyone tries or plays up to a style, they loose a bit of creativity.
The most boring music for me, is music that insists its part of some scene or genre.
I think art should be free to do as it pleases and if you then insist on cubby holeing music, well I guess ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

We need genres just so we can communicate with words what we are hearing.

Music is not parts on shelves. So we should be a bit flexable with how we describe things. But I realize we need to have some classification rules. Still naming and insisting on names is a bit tiresome.

listen to the music

peace

Undermind
April 3rd, 2003, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by Rickio
I remember when electronic music was beginning and soon therafter all the splintering into sub genres.

My feeling is when anyone tries or plays up to a style, they loose a bit of creativity.
The most boring music for me, is music that insists its part of some scene or genre.
I think art should be free to do as it pleases and if you then insist on cubby holeing music, well I guess ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

We need genres just so we can communicate with words what we are hearing.

Music is not parts on shelves. So we should be a bit flexable with how we describe things. But I realize we need to have some classification rules. Still naming and insisting on names is a bit tiresome.

listen to the music

peace


Hey Rickio, I like your outlook on most things, are you sure you are not a Buddhist monk, lol

WhitePony
April 3rd, 2003, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by Rickio
I remember when electronic music was beginning and soon therafter all the splintering into sub genres.

My feeling is when anyone tries or plays up to a style, they loose a bit of creativity.
The most boring music for me, is music that insists its part of some scene or genre.
I think art should be free to do as it pleases and if you then insist on cubby holeing music, well I guess ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

We need genres just so we can communicate with words what we are hearing.

Music is not parts on shelves. So we should be a bit flexable with how we describe things. But I realize we need to have some classification rules. Still naming and insisting on names is a bit tiresome.

listen to the music

peace

Couldn´t have said it better, man!
Yeah, out of convenience, I categorize music sometimes, but I´m against putting stuff into little boxes and even more against artists putting themselves in them.
Actually, the last label I´ve heard was pretty cool : "sinister funk", referring to a House set by James Zabiela. I think it´s one of the few cases when this kind of stuff actually fits the music perfectly.

But, really, wouldn´t it be better if we just kept giving each other reccomendations on this type of music? If ppl wanna mention Scooter or DaRude here, so be it, if they feel that it is Techno...personally, I hate it, but someone here might feel curious about it and actually enjoy it.

While I´m at it, I highly reccomend you to search for the soundtrack to a movie called "Stark Raving Mad", which came out a few weeks ago. It´s a sort of mix CD, by John Digweed (the GOD of House music), interspersed with some dialog from the movie, etc, and it has everything from ambient and chill-out, to breakbeat and house.

CTC Command
April 4th, 2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by WhitePony
Couldn´t have said it better, man!
Yeah, out of convenience, I categorize music sometimes, but I´m against putting stuff into little boxes and even more against artists putting themselves in them.
Actually, the last label I´ve heard was pretty cool : "sinister funk", referring to a House set by James Zabiela. I think it´s one of the few cases when this kind of stuff actually fits the music perfectly.

But, really, wouldn´t it be better if we just kept giving each other reccomendations on this type of music? If ppl wanna mention Scooter or DaRude here, so be it, if they feel that it is Techno...personally, I hate it, but someone here might feel curious about it and actually enjoy it.

While I´m at it, I highly reccomend you to search for the soundtrack to a movie called "Stark Raving Mad", which came out a few weeks ago. It´s a sort of mix CD, by John Digweed (the GOD of House music), interspersed with some dialog from the movie, etc, and it has everything from ambient and chill-out, to breakbeat and house.

Hail, hail, well said

I think what has happened is that the label "techno" for most people is a very general descriptive term that includes anything sampled and/or electronic. But for others it is far more specific and exclusive. The problem I have with the latter group is that no one has adequately defined what that is--and/or that they jumped down the throat of anyone from the techno=electronica school without providing the courtesy of a civil discussion. For those who feel compelled to pontificate with a hammer, I would suggest you take your massive knowledge of "techno" and its vast repetoire of sub-genre and kindly enlighten these unwashed masses. For example, some might think that Fatboy or DJ Shadow are "techno." Others may not, especially if they are immersed in the sub-genres. But popular artists like C-bros and Fatboy will often lead those bored once they've explored thir catalogs to dig deeper and really get into it. Fatboy and Shadow can also be categorized as dance and hip-hop respectively, but remember, these are all just descriptive terms. When we start letting the descriptions divide us instead of enlighten, then the insidious power of language to turn allies into "others" has us in its grip. Language is a tool. Don't use it as a weapon. Or, as my mother used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, shut up already.

metale
April 4th, 2003, 04:21 PM
It depends on what kind of techno music are we talking about.....
I like to much rock & metal... but i like techno too....
dj tiesto, moby, 666, dj quicksilver, fase, supernova, chemical brothers, etc...

But when you talk about "techno" you must specify what kind... because, rembember that Fear Factory has an album with a techno sytle...

Krell
April 4th, 2003, 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by WhitePony
Couldn´t have said it better, man!
Yeah, out of convenience, I categorize music sometimes, but I´m against putting stuff into little boxes and even more against artists putting themselves in them.
Actually, the last label I´ve heard was pretty cool : "sinister funk", referring to a House set by James Zabiela. I think it´s one of the few cases when this kind of stuff actually fits the music perfectly.

But, really, wouldn´t it be better if we just kept giving each other reccomendations on this type of music? If ppl wanna mention Scooter or DaRude here, so be it, if they feel that it is Techno...personally, I hate it, but someone here might feel curious about it and actually enjoy it.

While I´m at it, I highly reccomend you to search for the soundtrack to a movie called "Stark Raving Mad", which came out a few weeks ago. It´s a sort of mix CD, by John Digweed (the GOD of House music), interspersed with some dialog from the movie, etc, and it has everything from ambient and chill-out, to breakbeat and house.
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Hail, hail, well said

I think what has happened is that the label "techno" for most people is a very general descriptive term that includes anything sampled and/or electronic. But for others it is far more specific and exclusive. The problem I have with the latter group is that no one has adequately defined what that is--and/or that they jumped down the throat of anyone from the techno=electronica school without providing the courtesy of a civil discussion. For those who feel compelled to pontificate with a hammer, I would suggest you take your massive knowledge of "techno" and its vast repetoire of sub-genre and kindly enlighten these unwashed masses. For example, some might think that Fatboy or DJ Shadow are "techno." Others may not, especially if they are immersed in the sub-genres. But popular artists like C-bros and Fatboy will often lead those bored once they've explored thir catalogs to dig deeper and really get into it. Fatboy and Shadow can also be categorized as dance and hip-hop respectively, but remember, these are all just descriptive terms. When we start letting the descriptions divide us instead of enlighten, then the insidious power of language to turn allies into "others" has us in its grip. Language is a tool. Don't use it as a weapon. Or, as my mother used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, shut up already.


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2nd all that.

Digweed? Whos that, is he like Moby?

JUST KIDDING . . makes me wonder about people, really does.


Crystal Method - Bloodbath

Undermind
April 4th, 2003, 05:17 PM
3 words

All Music Guide (.com)

has all the knowledge you could ever want, well, most of it anyway

Lamourlady
April 5th, 2003, 09:20 AM
i just wanna dance!
period.
u r all just too elite for me.
*sticks out tongue*