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soulxtc
April 5th, 2008, 06:30 PM
THE internet could soon be made obsolete. The scientists who pioneered it have now built a lightning-fast replacement capable of downloading entire feature films within seconds.


At speeds about 10,000 times faster than a typical broadband connection, “the grid” will be able to send the entire Rolling Stones back catalogue from Britain to Japan in less than two seconds.


The latest spin-off from Cern, the particle physics centre that created the web, the grid could also provide the kind of power needed to transmit holographic images; allow instant online gaming with hundreds of thousands of players; and offer high-definition video telephony for the price of a local call.


David Britton, professor of physics at Glasgow University and a leading figure in the grid project, believes grid technologies could “revolutionise” society. “With this kind of computing power, future generations will have the ability to collaborate and communicate in ways older people like me cannot even imagine,” he said.


The power of the grid will become apparent this summer after what scientists at Cern have termed their “red button” day - the switching-on of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the new particle accelerator built to probe the origin of the universe. The grid will be activated at the same time to capture the data it generates.


Cern, based near Geneva, started the grid computing project seven years ago when researchers realised the LHC would generate annual data equivalent to 56m CDs - enough to make a stack 40 miles high.
This meant that scientists at Cern - where Sir Tim Berners-Lee invented the web in 1989 - would no longer be able to use his creation for fear of causing a global collapse.


This is because the internet has evolved by linking together a hotchpotch of cables and routing equipment, much of which was originally designed for telephone calls and therefore lacks the capacity for high-speed data transmission.


By contrast, the grid has been built with dedicated fibre optic cables and modern routing centres, meaning there are no outdated components to slow the deluge of data. The 55,000 servers already installed are expected to rise to 200,000 within the next two years.


Professor Tony Doyle, technical director of the grid project, said: “We need so much processing power, there would even be an issue about getting enough electricity to run the computers if they were all at Cern. The only answer was a new network powerful enough to send the data instantly to research centres in other countries.”


That network, in effect a parallel internet, is now built, using fibre optic cables that run from Cern to 11 centres in the United States, Canada, the Far East, Europe and around the world.

READ REST OF ARTICLE (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece)

mountain_rage
April 5th, 2008, 08:17 PM
Interesting, but not at all surprising. From what I understand there is a push to recreate the internet. Sadly the new internet that is being worked out is severely locked down, which I would say is a large flaw. This of course is all due to the special interest of copyright holders. The thing that really stuck out at me was the holographic communications part of the article. Never did I think of storage limitations with 3d content, its very interesting to think that one of the limitations is storage.

jospams
April 5th, 2008, 08:39 PM
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tokoloshe
April 5th, 2008, 09:28 PM
Well, I guess its back to the future boys and girls...

Carbinedevil
April 6th, 2008, 07:16 AM
Haha, Lagless Internet Gaming.!!!

Orgasmic

Mels_Smileys45
April 6th, 2008, 07:56 AM
Can anyone find the wayyy old zp artical about the vynil discs the RIAA was supporting to stop internet piracy? I can not

Signa
April 6th, 2008, 03:28 PM
heres a thought i just had, what if we've out-grown a binary data system? wouldn't it make sense that if we used 10 numbers instead of 2 that storage would then need less "space" to represent any data?

i know the implications of this is just mind boggling, hell, i dont even know how optical media would work in a decimal system. but if this is the future we are looking at in terms of data storage and transfer, the binary system is eventually going to come back and byte us.

(ouch, baaaad pun)

mountain_rage
April 6th, 2008, 04:37 PM
heres a thought i just had, what if we've out-grown a binary data system? wouldn't it make sense that if we used 10 numbers instead of 2 that storage would then need less "space" to represent any data?

i know the implications of this is just mind boggling, hell, i dont even know how optical media would work in a decimal system. but if this is the future we are looking at in terms of data storage and transfer, the binary system is eventually going to come back and byte us.

(ouch, baaaad pun)

They have attempted to do that but its quite difficult. For optical discs to read from 0 to 10 you would have to make a variable identifier. So from what I understand for disc medium, the information is etched using the laser, so somehow they would have to use different patterns or lasers to get the different number values. So in order to have a storage medium that can work with more then just 0 and 1 you would need to have a system that can write and detect differences in resistance, magnetism, color, or some other semi permanent modification to a medium. So I'm not sure if there is any working systems that does that, but I imagine if there is its not practical enough to use right now. Also I don't think it would move from 0 and 1 to 10 but more likely move to base 4, 8, 16 etc as binary is easy to convert to these bases.

Edit: My English was atrocious, no idea what happened in my brain when I wrote it initially.

Signa
April 6th, 2008, 11:31 PM
yeah, i know. i remember hearing about them trying vacuum tubes or something that would allow for the 10 different states the computer can identify. i also like your idea on the base 16. but i dont know how we'd figure out 4 different states, let alone 16. even so, technology has come to the point where i dont see it as being impossible. 50 years ago, its no wonder that they ended up going with binary: off and on. i just have to wonder if things have changed enough that they can try again, or are we stuck with binary like we are stuck with typewriter's layouts.