best programming code for p2p?

[PornMaster]

Hey, What is the best programming code for making p2p software?

[PornMaster]

Oh and i forgot, It has to work with Windows XP

[MonkeyMadness]

I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. Are you asking what programming language is best for coding a p2p app under Windows XP? If so, thats one of those "everyone has a different opinion" questions. Every programming language has "true believers". If it were me, I'd chose C, no freaking ++ either. I like to know where my bits and bytes are going, but not quite badly enough to resort to assembly programming under windows.

[CCSDUDE]

I agree....but your post raises qustions in my mind....

What if Steve Gibson wrote a P2P app? Hmmm.....seriously....we should all Email the hell outta him....any P2P app made by him would be prolly all of 50kb and run like all hell on oooold 486's while still having supernode type stuff enabled.....


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[12345678910]

I'm Thinking Java Or C++.....

Anyone With Any Experience In Java???

[SnakeAnarchy]

well as far as i know people prefer C++ but that depends on the programmer

[Borgster]

visual basic 6.0, or c would be my best bets. what about qbasic? lol.

[Sephiroth]

VB isnt used at all anymore its only used by amateurs and virus writers.

C based languages or java are popular. .

[12345678910]

Originally posted by Borgster
visual basic 6.0, or c would be my best bets. what about qbasic? lol.

visual basic 6.0 ..........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That will never be a good P2P programming language. Sorry for the outburst of laughter, but wow......

[MonkeyMadness]

Originally posted by CCSDUDE

What if Steve Gibson wrote a P2P app?


That is exactly what I was thinking... lol...

[phalkon30]

sorry....*puts on noob hat*

who the hell is steve gibson?

[CCSDUDE]

He's a crazy old coot who programs in assembly REALLY fucking good.....

www.grc.com

Good guy...one of the firsts to tackle spyware/adware and how insecure windows is. HAHAHA Heres a great quote....

'Microsoft Security' - It takes every last bit of strength I have not to
label those two words "The Oxymoron that Keeps on Giving"

Now that rings VERY true...XP is crap....in some ways....try saying XP isn't to this dude....LOL

Edit....Ah-hmmm I guess my attempt at dry humor failed.... :mellow

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[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by phalkon30
sorry....*puts on noob hat*

who the hell is steve gibson?

Im not a fan of gibson.. All of his free programs arent that complex in many cases i can do the same thing without a program a few are just registry changes and etc. Also he exploits issues like "spyware" and windows to advertaise his own site and his other programs which you have to buy.. The Anti-virus companies have been spreading fear to get people to buy anti-virus products for years and Gibson is no different.

Gibson dumbs things down for the ignorant masses and only give his opinion on things, his site should be treated like any other personal website and not automatically assume everything he says is truth like Windows XP and its "raw sockets" that he went on a rant about when XP first came out with his gloom and doom and how its going to DOS everything and that was over a year ago and you know what no massive dos attacks or anything happened..

Microsoft is a bigger target.. There are just as much security flaws for other operating systems as there are for Windows. But since Mircosoft has a bigger user base and market share they get more noticed than the other operating systems are are a bigger target because of it and the fact that many people who use it dont update and get the fixes or use old verisons so malicious hackers would have the most success..

[phalkon30]

ok, thanx guys, i've been to the site CCS showed me before, just didnt recognize the name right away

i agree with seph, most of his stuff is based on paranoia, i really dont like people that have to run 5 firewalls so they can protect their music collections from being hacked

honestly, what are the chances of me getting hacked in these remote ways? I dont want to waste my time, i just do my windows updates and anti virus deffs, thats about as far i take security

[Borgster]

steve gibson is a f*cking genius. of course i'd use a p2p app if he made one, hell id even use an operating system if he made one. after all he is the security expert.

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by Borgster
steve gibson is a f*cking genius. of course i'd use a p2p app if he made one, hell id even use an operating system if he made one. after all he is the security expert.

He can critize and dumb down information and give his opinionated interptation of it.. Thats not really waht i think when i think of genious..

There is even a site with other peoples opinion on his site. There are alot of computer security people out there too. The site im referring to just in case anyone was wondering was www.grcsucks.com I saw it on attrition.org.. I wasnt a fan of GRC before going to this site anyways.

He is a genious in the way hes been able to market his products by attacking current marketing approaches, creating a few small utlities and distribute them for free and a few opinion papers and dumbed down information to his advantage to get people to go out and to spread the word of his site for him so he gets more hits, and sells more of his pay products.

[gorphon]

Originally posted by Sephiroth


Im not a fan of gibson.. All of his free programs arent that complex in many cases i can do the same thing without a program a few are just registry changes and etc. Also he exploits issues like "spyware" and windows to advertaise his own site and his other programs which you have to buy.. The Anti-virus companies have been spreading fear to get people to buy anti-virus products for years and Gibson is no different.

Gibson dumbs things down for the ignorant masses and only give his opinion on things, his site should be treated like any other personal website and not automatically assume everything he says is truth like Windows XP and its "raw sockets" that he went on a rant about when XP first came out with his gloom and doom and how its going to DOS everything and that was over a year ago and you know what no massive dos attacks or anything happened..

Microsoft is a bigger target.. There are just as much security flaws for other operating systems as there are for Windows. But since Mircosoft has a bigger user base and market share they get more noticed than the other operating systems are are a bigger target because of it and the fact that many people who use it dont update and get the fixes or use old verisons so malicious hackers would have the most success..


I agree with everything sephiroth says here... I dont think much of gibson either... granted, he certainly has knowledge in his field, its just that hes largely created his own status.

borgster, there are those out there who laugh when the words steve gibson and security expert come up in the same paragraph, let alone phrase.... do a google search for grc & sucks.... you should quickly see where to go from there.


edit: dont bother, seph beat me too it. attrition has lots of good info as well. rock on man!

[method]

Steve Gibson has been ridiculed to death for some of his premonitions of internet armageddon. The register.co.uk have run a few articles on him, just search for Gibson on their site and you'll see what I mean!!

And Seph's right.. only amateurs and virus writers use VB. Even if they code in assembly as well and use C++ components in their projects.. if VB has anything to do with it, they're amateur and their work should be avoided at all costs. ;)

Good news is I'll be moving on to C++ for 2003 and when I've got it sorted, I'll probably do ports of my older projects... Bad news is, I've seen more C++ runtime errors from programs than VB errors on VB programs lately. Anyone know what I mean or seen the same sorta thing??

Anyway.. Gibson knows more than me, but he's been proven wrong a few times and has been known to over-hype security issues. Also, coding a p2p application purely from assembly/machine code.. would take AGES unless a lot of libraries were used.

Peace!!

[MoonMan]

I wasn't going to add to this discussion but..

I read a little of the www.grcsucks.com page but it really didn't grab my attention so I looked at the grc.com page again to see what all the fuss was about.. and I gotta tell you all.. this guy is a BRAGGART! Just by reading all of his "material" you can tell this guy is a self-proclaimed, self-serving, vain bastard.

Read this page -> http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm
It's fucking HILARIOUS when you look at the words he uses, the terms he supposedly "coined".. he is talking about a denial of service attack on his site but he just can't resist adding things like "We found ourselves in the situation that coined the term: Our site's users were being denied our services." or "Dipping a thimble into the flood, I analyzed a tiny sample and saw that huge UDP packets" like he is some kind of fucking computer poet... or such gems like "We were drowning in a flood of malicious
traffic and valid traffic was unable to
compete with the torrent." and "This has horribly changed for the worse
with the release of Windows 2000 and
the pending release of Windows XP."

This guy's ego is so big he must live alone for fear of smothering his loved ones.