Thoughts On Latest News About FTN

[Big-Pipe]

FTN, being so exclusive and having such good access to scene stuff, I was wondering what people's thoughts are now that the "scene" is after FTN's owner/admin, just like SuperTorrents.

The scene mentions "cutting FTN off". Apparently, the scene is not happy with the lack of security in the BT community, which jeopardizes the scene's own security.

There was also a mention about scene releases "leaking" out to the BT sites via one source, a pay-per-leech source that many high level BT sites are members of.

[baksteen]

well ftn is one of the best sites out there, i have to say. it does get alot of the scenes stuff, but i dont see how they are going to cut off FTN from the scene, sounds impossible. but i think they are concentrating to hard on ftn and rather they should look at more of the lower down trackers whihc have open sign ups and stuff.

the scene did go after FTN's owner and they released information about him, it was quite bad actually just reading the info, i couldnt download it, it was just wrong, but it went crazy on SCT.

but the guy said it was mostly fake info, such as the phone number. he said he is back now and it looks like he is looking for revenge, just now they had a few upgrades so it wiil be interesting

[Big-Pipe]

well ftn is one of the best sites out there, i have to say. it does get alot of the scenes stuff, but i dont see how they are going to cut off FTN from the scene, sounds impossible. but i think they are concentrating to hard on ftn and rather they should look at more of the lower down trackers whihc have open sign ups and stuff.

the scene did go after FTN's owner and they released information about him, it was quite bad actually just reading the info, i couldnt download it, it was just wrong, but it went crazy on SCT.

but the guy said it was mostly fake info, such as the phone number. he said he is back now and it looks like he is looking for revenge, just now they had a few upgrades so it wiil be interesting


So you're saying that the scene's also targeting ScT? I don't know, I thought the scene allowed its stuff to be shared somewhat outside it's inner circle, you know, for prestige purposes (I know all the NFO's say that their releases are meant only for the scene)?

I'm not sure how much FTN can strike back at the scene, since FTN's sort of dependent on the scene for releases, unfortunately...

BTW, what are the upgrades you mention in "they had a few upgrades..."?

[baksteen]

well i dont think they are going after SCT but they really should cause they steal alot from them.

well they have had some hardware upgrades which can only mean that they gonna mean serious business.

but sct pays alot of money for scene so i think the scene doesnt mind that much really, cause they get alot of money. but yea they went after the site owner after he had left the site which was pretty dumb and now he has come back and is eager to get underway i would say

[GuyFawks]

Probably. And the scene maybe has 50K people in in total. MAYBE.

[baksteen]

yea so it would be really hard to cut off just ftn members. they would need inside people

[Big-Pipe]

Some people say that only a small minority of the scene are doing these cavalier/crusader attacks against BT sites, and that most of the scene do not agree with the attacks against ST and FTN.

[GuyFawks]

Those guys are kids. Anyone who is anything in the scene probably does not condone them.

[markupmaster]

Shame...I heard that Brandon was a really nice guy

[Dizzle4]

BTW, what are the upgrades you mention in "they had a few upgrades..."?

I'm curious as well.

[Big-Pipe]

I'm curious as well.


I think baksteen was suggesting that FTN's in the process of upgrading its server hardware, which would allow it to handle more members/traffic, etc.

But it doesn't sound like the scene cares about distributing its works (all the NFO's I've read sound like the scene discourages distribution). So a powerhouse BT site like FTN would actually run counter to what the scene wants? Therefore, the only leverage I can see FTN and any other BT sites having over the scene is money, that is, money which flows from the BT sites paying per leech to access the TRULY exclusive core scene sites.

[ezflow]

Shame...I heard that Brandon was a really nice guy
He is a very nice guy. I don't think FTN is upgrading in some desire to handle more members.

[GuyFawks]

I think baksteen was suggesting that FTN's in the process of upgrading its server hardware, which would allow it to handle more members/traffic, etc.

But it doesn't sound like the scene cares about distributing its works (all the NFO's I've read sound like the scene discourages distribution). So a powerhouse BT site like FTN would actually run counter to what the scene wants? Therefore, the only leverage I can see FTN and any other BT sites having over the scene is money, that is, money which flows from the BT sites paying per leech to access the TRULY exclusive core scene sites.

Probably and the scene has lots of money from friendly donators. And why would you pay to leech? Getting in the scene is easy. Offer something. Get a job at a printing plant, ebgames, gamespot, walmart, internship at company, learn to crack, cd store. Then just take the prerelease stuff and mail the email on the nfos and say I want to join and they ask for a sample or a list of what you have. Give it to them. Give them a bunch of stuff and build up trust and your in. Take this from a guy who knows and who has talked to people. Scene access is not worth it if you just want to leech. Too much work and if you just want to pirate and share use bittorent, irc, newsgroups and FXP boards. Maybe once you have been doing it for a while can you get away it, but if your new, chances are you wont.

[thelastfreeman]

That's a damn shame.
Pirates v Pirates :devil2
Pirates v RIAA :icon_thum :icon_thum :icon_thum

Honestly for them to attack someone who knows who they are but isn't retaliating is just sad.

[Rozsomak]

Brandon is a nice guy, and he takes a good care of this, trust me. He already induced some measurements.

[Big-Pipe]

Probably and the scene has lots of money from friendly donators. And why would you pay to leech? Getting in the scene is easy. Offer something. Get a job at a printing plant, ebgames, gamespot, walmart, internship at company, learn to crack, cd store. Then just take the prerelease stuff and mail the email on the nfos and say I want to join and they ask for a sample or a list of what you have. Give it to them. Give them a bunch of stuff and build up trust and your in. Take this from a guy who knows and who has talked to people. Scene access is not worth it if you just want to leech. Too much work and if you just want to pirate and share use bittorent, irc, newsgroups and FXP boards. Maybe once you have been doing it for a while can you get away it, but if your new, chances are you wont.


I mentioned pay-to-leech not because I'm interested in paying-to-leech myself, but because the NFO sent out by the scene about FTN says that FTN gets its scene releases by paying-to-leech from some secretive scene site.

[Big-Pipe]

That's a damn shame.
Pirates v Pirates :devil2
Pirates v RIAA :icon_thum :icon_thum :icon_thum

Honestly for them to attack someone who knows who they are but isn't retaliating is just sad.


Yeah, I think the "industries" are happy that the scene is essentially doing the dirty job for them (the industries).

[baksteen]

yea i bet they are soo happy, they are just going to sit back and let it happen with out them doing anything

[Big-Pipe]

That's a damn shame.
Pirates v Pirates :devil2
Pirates v RIAA :icon_thum :icon_thum :icon_thum

Honestly for them to attack someone who knows who they are but isn't retaliating is just sad.


Yeah, from their perspective, let their enemies fight amongst themselves. Then come in afterwards when there're fewer bodies to target...

[Big-Pipe]

Probably and the scene has lots of money from friendly donators. And why would you pay to leech? Getting in the scene is easy. Offer something. Get a job at a printing plant, ebgames, gamespot, walmart, internship at company, learn to crack, cd store. Then just take the prerelease stuff and mail the email on the nfos and say I want to join and they ask for a sample or a list of what you have. Give it to them. Give them a bunch of stuff and build up trust and your in. Take this from a guy who knows and who has talked to people. Scene access is not worth it if you just want to leech. Too much work and if you just want to pirate and share use bittorent, irc, newsgroups and FXP boards. Maybe once you have been doing it for a while can you get away it, but if your new, chances are you wont.


BTW, thanks for your thoughts on pay-to-leech...I agree...

[GuyFawks]

Don't worry about it. FTN can look after itself. BTW the big post Brandon made has been changed to this .


Here's some advice that can change some of your lives..
Don't always believe what you see


Just to let you guys know of his opinion.

[baksteen]

yea i was wondering where that big post went, but i supose it is better to have that, and have that copied on to other boards than what he said first.

yea, your enemys, enemy is your friend ;) always wanted to say that

[drtoker]

The people behind these attacks do not represent the scene. They are just a few people that happen to be in the scene, nothing more. Brandon knows people in the scene, and they have no problems with him. This is just some kids acting out 'cause they think they can. The scene is made up of a lot of people and groups, and one (person/group) does not speak for the whole.

[baksteen]

yea i heard it was just some kids, stupid kids they must be.

[Big-Pipe]

The people behind these attacks do not represent the scene. They are just a few people that happen to be in the scene, nothing more. Brandon knows people in the scene, and they have no problems with him. This is just some kids acting out 'cause they think they can. The scene is made up of a lot of people and groups, and one (person/group) does not speak for the whole.


So what're your thoughts on the real reason for these attacks? Is it what the NFO says: to make the scene more secure? Or do you think these attacks are just publicity stunts to show off what a certain few can do?

In any event, the end result is in-fight amongst "ourselves"...

[Dizzle4]

So what're your thoughts on the real reason for these attacks? Is it what the NFO says: to make the scene more secure? Or do you think these attacks are just publicity stunts to show off what a certain few can do?

In any event, the end result is in-fight amongst "ourselves"...

Who knows what their purpose was...

What I do know is that these attacks only make FTN stronger and others too when they see how vulnerable they were. Bad news (sorta) for one guy, but good news for thousands :icon_thum

[GuyFawks]

I mentioned pay-to-leech not because I'm interested in paying-to-leech myself, but because the NFO sent out by the scene about FTN says that FTN gets its scene releases by paying-to-leech from some secretive scene site.

I never said that. Brandon accused the group that releases the NFO from selling scene access, therefore calling them hypocrites. The scene wants you if you have something to offer.

[NDGAARONDI]

Is FTN down? Can't seem to access their site.

Edit: Found out. Forgive my stupidity.

[baksteen]

nope it is up, if you are a member pm me and ill tell you what has happened

[El Comandante]

Those guys are kids. Anyone who is anything in the scene probably does not condone them.

I with you on that. Sounds like a pissing contest between kids. They posted Brandon's picture and he looks like he is 17 years old. Besides, the "scene" does not speak with one voice.

[GuyFawks]

There has been an answer

Yea I know another news item.. But if I don't make this then there are going to be forum threads and tons of pm's coming my way.

It would seem that we have some rather greedy people here on FTN, who have decided to take advantage of this site and use it to benefit themselves by profiting off our invites which we freely give away to you. I'm beyond disappointed, in fact i'm actually hurt.

It's sad that some people have to ruin such a wonderful privilege for others, but from this day on, invites will be handled much differently. EVERYONE has lost all invites. I repeat: Every single user on ftn, staff included, have been reset to 0. Do not ask when they will be back, not only will you be told that the answer is unknown, we don't even know the answer ourselves.

Thanks for taking advantage of my kindness, I'll be sure not to let that happen again in the future.

//staff

On a side note, if you pm a staff member and beg/ask for an invite, you will be disabled.

[baksteen]

i dont know if it is a good thing or a bad thing, bad to the fact that members have been missusing their invites, but i think the site would become better i would say.

[Krell]

Thats the best fucking news ive heard since some rap artist got shot dead.

Who ever that admin is, tell him to contact me, I will buy his ass some beer.

Enough of all the BT Trade whoring everywhere!


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[baksteen]

i have a question for you krell, it is pretty obvious that you hate traders, but why are you on a trading forum then? and not a giveaway forum?

just a general quesiton just wondering?

[Krell]

I am on a FILE TRADING forum, not an INVITE TRADING forum.

File TRADING = no leeching

INVITE trading = less private private sanctity.

Supply and demand to keep P2P healthy is not the same as keeping BT whores happy.

Why are there private sites at all? Wonder that for a while.


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[Zombieman123]

To make their members feel special when using bittorrent?

[thelastfreeman]

Thats the best fucking news ive heard since some rap artist got shot dead.


Hahahaha... Ahh good ole fashion racism...

[Krell]

You just call me a racist? When I can't stand Emenem? Bitch, Im a an equal opportunity rap hater.

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[thelastfreeman]

That was a reference to a family guy joke with the Crows from Dumbo. I was actually complimenting you but you didn't catch it. Oh, and thanks for the neg rep, Einstein.

[Krell]

Really now? You just assume that when you call someone a racist, they think to themselves "OH! Thats got to be a Family Guy quote!" Silly me, I should have memorized over 100 episodes of Familiy Guy in preparation for your compliment.

It's a good thing I didnt call you a gay bastard, you'd think I meant you were a happy fellow.

Yeah i'm not Einstein by a longshot, but I usually frame context.

Just to be a good sport, I'll give you good rep which doubles what I took for your pain and suffering.


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[Hiccuple]

Don't know how to delete.

[GuyFawks]

Agreed. I felt bad for the admins. They gave invites so we could invite our friends. Now some tools have been measuring their penises and if they weren't big enough, they have been using FTN as Viagra...