Shareaza Site Transfer

[Neglacio]

Hey,

I'm Neglacio and I represent Shareaza.
I'm here to warn that we changed the site from http://www.shareaza.com to http://shareaza.sourceforge.net.
The other site has been 'stolen' by a scam site, so please, be warned!

Greetings,
Neglacio

[Krell]

Prove it.

Prove any of it.

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[Neglacio]

Check both sites. Shareaza.com claims things that never can happened: Read this for example: http://www.shareaza.com/aboutUs.html
Shareaza.sourceforge.net is a legal site, since as you can see, it's hosted on SourceForge which has got a reputation to never do such things.
And if you want more prove, go into irc://irc.p2pchat.net/Shareaza , the official IRC channel.

[ceceboy]

Well, Neglacio simply is right.

The domain shareaza.com is NOT the official shareaza site anymore/atm. It's been changed to http://shareaza.sourceforge.net/ (the home of the opensource project).

www.Shareaza.com is a fraud and offers a download package containing spyware and adware ! It's a mirror for www.shareazaweb.com, the guys who prolly hacked the homepage.

Shareaza IS and ALWAYS will be free and open source without spyware and adware!

Also read: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1897220&forum_id=379658
and http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=46864
and http://www.shareazasecurity.be/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8

[Krell]

Well, Neglacio simply is right.


Well yes, but dont show up with no credentials and flinsy information and some IRC chat.

You say you are from Shareaza, what does that mean? You're a developer? Are you sleeping with the developer? We don't know you.

Are you contesting this?

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=shareaza.com

Are you also referring to ShareazaPlus, Shareaza Pro, Shareaza2007 . .

If you have a problem being hijacked, take it up with InterNIC, the hosting ISP or hire an attorney.




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[Neglacio]

I'm a good friend of the admins ale5000 and Rolandas.
Feel free to contact them.

ShareazaPlus and ShareazaLite are the ONLY mods not violating GPL and will NOT bundle adware and spyware.
The rest ask for money and/or infect your system.

Shareaza.com is still owned by a person who left the team, but it still is reserved for the official Shareaza client. Only the IP referring too has been hijacked, not the domain.

We can't sue them, hire an attorney, or something similar since Shareaza is free and made by volunteers. We do not have the money to start a case, nor do we want to.

[ceceboy]

Well yes, but dont show up with no credentials and flinsy information and some IRC chat.

You say you are from Shareaza, what does that mean? You're a developer? Are you sleeping with the developer? We don't know you.

Are you contesting this?

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=shareaza.com

Are you also referring to ShareazaPlus, Shareaza Pro, Shareaza2007 . .

If you have a problem being hijacked, take it up with InterNIC, the hosting ISP or hire an attorney.

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Mate, if you don't believe us, go check the google cache and you'll see that the new page is a scam, and that the google cache still links to the SF page too.
We're just here to pass on the message, that's all. :icon_thum

[wout000]

Hi,

I am the admin of the newly re-created official shareaza forums. (http://www.shareazasecurity.be/forum)

I would like to inform you that the domain shareaza.com has been hijacked and is now referring to a scam site.

Please update your bookmarks to the current official site http://shareaza.sourceforge.net/

regards,

Wout000

[Krell]

I'm a good friend of the admins ale5000 and Rolandas.
Feel free to contact them.

ShareazaPlus and ShareazaLite are the ONLY mods not violating GPL and will NOT bundle adware and spyware.
The rest ask for money and/or infect your system.

Shareaza.com is still owned by a person who left the team, but it still is reserved for the official Shareaza client. Only the IP referring too has been hijacked, not the domain.

We can't sue them, hire an attorney, or something similar since Shareaza is free and made by volunteers. We do not have the money to start a case, nor do we want to.

Thanks for clarification. We don't need another Earth5 type pissing contest here, I hope you understand my reservations. I can easliy find references to the hijack, had I not already heard about it, but Im not going to chase down some IRC chat trying to verify facts. We dont know you, ceceboy, wout000 or any other hiphop names. Any time multiple people all join at the same time to argue their plight, we smell something fishy.


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[wout000]

A simple google/wayback cache search can clarify everything.

But i saw you display a fancy banner above the shareaza download link that points to a scam site aswell so it won't do much good anyway since most people will click the banner...

hurray for scam sites !

cough cough ...sarcasm

[Krell]

You verify a bad link hosted here on ZeroPaid?

I don't get ads or banner, if this is true, can you please post the url for the ad?

If this is the hijacked link, we will have the admins correct it.

Thank you.

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[wout000]

sure, here goes

http://www.zeropaid.com/php/admin/rev/adclick.php?bannerid=4&zoneid=4&source=&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fimp3download.com%2Fmusic%2Findex .asp%3Fkbid%3D1033%26campid%3Dzp_shareaza%26p2p%3D Shareaza

this ad shows on the shareaza info page right above the title 'shareaza'.

Also, on shareaza.com, i invite you to visit their eula
http://www.shareaza.com/eula.shtml
and scroll down to the part where this link emerges
www.shareaza.com/devices.shtml

and please follow that link.

Also all throughout their eula you can read BMB which stands for Bearshare Media Bar.
A quick rundown on http://www.myipneighbors.com/ (domain shareaza.com)
reveals that shareaza.com points to a server owned by imesh !

a whois search for shareazaweb.com (site that is used as a placeholder on shareaza.com) reveals that it's owned by IMESH...

done.

[Krell]

Great thanks, this is the kind of authoritative information I was looking for to begin with.

One of the mods will forward this on to admins.


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[Phlox]

Thank you Neglacio, Wout000 and ceceboy for getting it sorted.

@Krell I know you're not familiar with their nicks and probably not familiar with me as I don't come on here very often.. but I have been a member on here since April 2002 and I can vouch for them.

I use Phlox on sites that I don't visit frequently.. but most people know me as KathW or Kath.. For verification purposes, I'm listed on here... http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=110672

and also here with LW.... http://www.limewire.org/forum/showgroups.php

Regards

Kath

[Krell]

Phlox I actually know who you are. And I appreciate that you vouch for them. If the OP had provided us with the same I wouldn't have questioned his authenticity.

It's not like I'm going to go site to site to see if they're legit. So they think I'm an asshole . . . I'd rather that than have people snookered.


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[Phlox]

Of course Krell.. quite right too.. they could have been anyone ;)

In the Shareaza community they are well known, but in the outside (P2P) world it takes years to get yourself known :)

OK Capt. ;)

[Krell]

With 8 posts in 5 years, you could try a little harder, no? :D

Don't be a stranger.

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[Phlox]

busy busy.. far too busy.. too many irons in the fire, spread too thinly.. well pick your saying :)

And, I'm a lazy sod.... there's no hope ;)

[Krell]

Well, given all that the site went through in earlier times, you are either really really good at staying out of things, or you were truly much too busy to hang out here, which for the record, I consider a good thing.

That or you reserved this one alias for the special times like these.


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[Phlox]

Special times deserve special aliases.. it's been a hard few months for us razaites :)

[Christoph]

Its realy a sad thing that this happend!
How could you idiots lose this golden domain name???
Why you diden't refer us before to an other site (wich you realy own)...many users will download this stupid scam

Krell, post this for sure on zp main site.

[wout000]

We didn't lose it. The IP it's forwarding too has been taken over by Imesh llc.

shareaza.com is stil ours

we are trying to resolve this as fast as we can.

[Krell]

LOL poor Neglacio, he was so kind to rep me, but since he has zero rep power, it was useless except to earn some of his own and pass along nice sentiment.

Since he's braved it here to set the record straight, I'm going to rep him up so he's off to a good start.


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[Christoph]

We didn't lose it. The IP it's forwarding too has been taken over by Imesh llc.

shareaza.com is stil ours

we are trying to resolve this as fast as we can.

Wish you all the best!

Imesh,mhh...
What can we do?Making some scam in their forum :-P

[Sephiroth]

We didn't lose it. The IP it's forwarding too has been taken over by Imesh llc.

shareaza.com is stil ours

we are trying to resolve this as fast as we can.

Then why don't you just have the web address forward to the sourceforge page or the hosting holder page rather than having it point to a scam page.

[ryo_oh_ki]

cannot contact our DNS owner...

[Sephiroth]

Have you tried contacting the DNS service provider? Whoever is leading Shareaza now needs to do that and if they can prove it then maybe they can force a switch.

Otherwise whoever is leading Shareaza now should send a DMCA takedown notice to the ISP who is hosting the fake page demanding that it be taken down because they are using your copyrighted stuff that looks like it was ripped off(I suggest you look into asserting a trademark with the icon in the future).

At the very least they are violating the GPL because the GPL is not a part of the terms in the software they are offering for download which it looks like they replaced with their own EULA. I didn't spend much time looking but it looks like they may be violating numerous sections of the GPL as well.

[Neglacio]

1) The guy who runs the DNS 'account' isn't contactable for an unknown reason. We can't prove it anyway. The DNS just got spoofed. It seems that in Isreal (the place where iMesh comes from) the regulations of DNS isn't that strict. It went like this: DNS servers noticed Shareaza.com lead to an offline IP, so they ask other DNS servers if it has been relocated or something like that. Since no other DNS servers know it, they kept on asking.
At that moment, iMesh was/is running a DNS server with their own IP leading to Shareaza.com. Since the other DNS servers hadn't got any other choice then believing the iMesh server, they just took it over. That's how all DNS servers now link to their address, until an authoritative (major) DNS server says it needs to be changed, it will stay that way.

2) Shareaza cannot start a big case about this. We know they violate GPL, but shareaza will ALWAYS stay free and is developed and maintained by non-payed volunteers. Shareaza just don't have the money, nor do we want to have, to do a thing more then telling others this.

[Sephiroth]

1. Regulation of DNS is done by ICANN and is not regulated by individual countries.

2. Making forums posts are not good enough, you may as well do nothing. Your userbase is being defrauded by conmen who are making money by bundling spyware off of your work. Your product on Shareaza.com isn't free now, it comes with bundled spyware, someone is now getting paid for Shareaza.

By not doing anything your are supporting the fraudulent site and their actions, and in effect giving your defacto approval of them. The longer you let this shit go on the harder it will to assert your rights to get it stop. Who knows if you let it go on long enough you may find yourself on the end of a lawsuit anyways with these bastards claiming ownership of shareaza.

If you really don't want to send out a notice and assert your rights, then the best solution would be to relaunch it under a new name, under a new DNS. Then send out a auto update if it is possible to the current clients to upgrade to the new client. It would be drastic, but then again it doesn't make any sense to continue developing a program where someone else is just going to leech off your work to make money.

[Neglacio]

1) Right. Seems like he has sold the domain. I just found out by a friend of him.

2) I've contacted the FSF, since they violate GPL(v2). I edited the wikipedia article which is changed frequently to keep on saying that shareaza.com is the official site. But what can we do more? We don't have money :p Unless you are a lawyer and will start a case free for us?

3) We can't contact our userbase since we don't have a site anymore. We can only inform them by spreading the word manually.

[Sephiroth]

Well if you can't force them to stop then you ought to consider renaming your client and distance your cilent from the name shareaza.

Well if your out of options then you should call your cilent something else so people can easily differentiate the two. Then get the word out that its the actively developed open source spyware free cilent of shareaza and explain the name change.

I think since shareaza has been around for a while and people are so used to going to shareaza.com, trying to inform people is fighting a losing battle. At least by renaming it gives you a fresh start, puts you back in control and you would no longer have to worry about shareaza.com.

Why continuing developing under the shareaza name for free so someone else is money of off it. If they want to make money then they can maintain and improve their own damn program.

[Neglacio]

We've already considered it :) If it would've only depend on me, I would already changed it ;)
But that's a last resort, if all possibilities fail.

There's someone on Wikipedia changing all Shareaza links to the bad ones. Every day after we've changed it back. We're talking with moderators and so on, but they can't do a thing -yet-...

Uhm, thanks for the tip anyway ;)

[DasFox]

Hey,

I'm Neglacio and I represent Shareaza.
I'm here to warn that we changed the site from http://www.shareaza.com to http://shareaza.sourceforge.net.
The other site has been 'stolen' by a scam site, so please, be warned!

Greetings,
Neglacio


Everyone should SPAM their support email!

http://wa.shareazaweb.com/support/sendbug.php?

[Phlox]

It's been a while, I think I'd better update the links again. ;)

Shareaza Forum, Wiki and just about everything else is at a new location... https://www.pantheraproject.net/forum/index.php

Of course, the project is still hosted by Sourceforge :)

Cheers
Kath