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View Full Version : Zeropaid Official Poll: Sound off, Mark Cuban, realist? or hypocrite?


moneoa
November 28th, 2007, 11:07 AM
In some news to hit the tech scene Mark Cuban is now calling for a complete block of p2p traffic in the face of unfair bandwidth theft by a few and tarnishing the experience of broadband for those who dont use these sevices like himself.

In the past I had interviewed cuban on behalf of the site During Groksters downfall at a time he payed for Groksters defence.

I present to you two faces of Mark Cuban, the drum beater
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9118/Mark+Cuban+to+ISPs%3A+%27Block+all+P2P+Traffic%2C+ Please%21%27

Mark Cuban, the defender
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=28068

The following are some interesting conflicts
In 2005 Mark States:
Mark: Yep. I download things to sample. I will either buy the CD or erase the
song. I also have no problem downloading songs of CDs I already own. I won’t
just download a song and keep it if I haven't paid for it somehow.

While in 2007
As a consumer, I want my internet experience to be as fast as possible. The last thing I want slowing my internet service down are P2P freeloaders. That's right, P2P content distributors are nothing more than freeloaders. The only person/organization that benefits from P2P usage are those that are trying to distribute content and want to distribute it on someone else's bandwidth dime.

Thank you Blog Maveric for the original Post
http://www.blogmaverick.com/2007/11/23/p2p-part-3/

Open for discussion! :icon_salu

moneoa
November 28th, 2007, 11:18 AM
I am leaning toward Hypocrite

I am really curious as to what made him change his mind though

meyou123
November 28th, 2007, 11:25 AM
I KNOW he is a hypocrite! No doubt in my mind whatsoever.

You either believe in p2p or you don't. But straddling the fence is gonna get splinters in your butt every time!

moneoa
November 28th, 2007, 11:37 AM
What makes me turn my head is this little bit
The only person/organization that benefits from P2P usage are those that are trying to distribute content and want to distribute it on someone else's bandwidth dime.

So is he implying through both statements that he is a freeloader himself?

drtoker
November 28th, 2007, 11:42 AM
I dont know where this guy is from, but I pay for my bandwidth... Some one elses dime? what, are seeders sitting in coffee shops or something now?

fourhundred
November 28th, 2007, 11:46 AM
Definite hypocrite in my book. I also agree with drtoker. Fees are paid for internet service which allows bandwidth usage. So I'm not exactly distributing anything on someone else's dime. The only people who are would be those who use unsecure wi-fi connections, internet cafe's, or maybe if you uncap your modem, then you'd be using bandwidth on someone else's dime.

carpefile
November 28th, 2007, 12:04 PM
I think he's actually talking about things like skype and Bittorrent Inc.s commercial distribution scheme, uses that deliver commercial content by using their customer's bandwidth.

edit;
Nope, I was wrong. After reading all three of his blog posts on this topic it is apparent he really is saying that just because we pay for unlimited bandwidth (which is actually limited due to transfer caps) doesn't mean we should actually be able to use it for anything more than email or browsing, because that could possibly affect his speeds somehow.:icon_scra

Its difficult to counter his arguments, because they don't make any sense at all. It'd be like trying to convince a flat-earther that the world really is round.

HelenaP
November 28th, 2007, 02:28 PM
...
The following are some interesting conflicts
...
Mark: Yep. I download things to sample. ...

#1- Download things to sample? Mkay. I can go for that...

...I will either buy the CD or erase the
song....

#2- um..make up your mind?

I also have no problem downloading songs of CDs I already own...

Um..Duh?

#3- Why download if you own it? :icon_scra

Just a thought-
"Idiot" should be added to the poll.