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the.alt
October 1st, 2007, 01:17 AM
I've been using the safepeer plugin with azureus and was wondering if safepeer is known to be as safe as say, peerguardian? I'm using ubuntu linux so unfortunately cannot run peerguardian. Someone suggested using moBlock instead.

Any suggestions and advice is appreciated. :icon_pira

RACKnRAIL
October 1st, 2007, 07:09 AM
Prolly better than nothing, but none of these methods are 100% safe. There is always a risk when you're sharing files (uploading).

If you are really paranoid, I would go with news groups, since you don't have to upload.

the.alt
October 1st, 2007, 09:01 AM
Ahh but newsgroups = money

Student = no money

:(

drtoker
October 1st, 2007, 09:54 AM
IMO safepeer and peerguardian are worthless. If you have read the leaked letters you will see that the bad guys out there, who you are trying to avoid, use proxies and change their ip's often. This makes IP filtering kind of useless. You may block a bad IP or 2, but there are going to be 100's more that are not on your list since they change so often.

Use a private/closed community tracker if you want to feel more safe, or as stated before, newsgroups. Its only 9 bucks a month, c'mon, get a P/T job FFS.

RACKnRAIL
October 1st, 2007, 10:03 AM
Use a private/closed community tracker if you want to feel more safe, or as stated before, newsgroups.

Private trackers may not be any better. Who do you think does all the invite begging?? ;)

the.alt
October 1st, 2007, 10:09 AM
True true, but you'd think even the 'baddies' would know better than to beg for invites. :D

m00kie
October 1st, 2007, 10:51 AM
I'm a utorrent user so I have no experience with safepeer, but I can tell you from experience that running PeerGuardian doesn't mean you're not going to get a nastygram from your ISP.

I do agree with the general sentiment that you can never be 100% protected, but like drtoker says, I think a good closed community is the way to go. Getting into one is of course the challenge! (I'm working on it.)

drtoker
October 1st, 2007, 01:00 PM
Also keep in mind, the data that some one can collect from a private/closed tracker may not be admisible in court, whereas on a public tracker, its all public info, so it can all be used against you. Granted, this probably won't stop them from sending you a nasty letter if they get your IP, but if they don't have legal evidence, what can they do?

I'm no lawyer, but I know that collecting evidence from a private site/server is different from gathering publicly available sources.

isus
October 1st, 2007, 01:05 PM
Prolly better than nothing, but none of these methods are 100% safe. There is always a risk when you're sharing files (uploading).

If you are really paranoid, I would go with news groups, since you don't have to upload.

qft

Find a little money - stop drinking Starbucks or quit smoking - and get into newsgroups.

the.alt
October 1st, 2007, 01:06 PM
Thats cool I always wondered why people thought that private sites were that much safer when all it requires is that someone from the RIAA etc. gets an invite, but if it's difficult legally then that makes sense. I did notice that most of them seem to have disclaimers.

GuyFawks
October 1st, 2007, 02:26 PM
Ahh but newsgroups = money

Student = no money

:(

Are you joking? You can at least pony up $10-15 bucks. No one is that poor.

cramer
October 1st, 2007, 02:36 PM
IMO safepeer and peerguardian are worthless.
They're effectively the same thing. And yes, they are 99% worthless. For every 1 bad guy you manage to block, you're also blocking hundreds of thousands of non-bad guys. The bluetack lists these things use are more politically motivated than actually useful... a lot like various anti-spam initiatives (past and present.)