BT Invite Begging Poll

[uselesscrap]

I can't believe so many newbs beg for invites to private trackers after just joining or asking for trades in the wrong threads. Do they not read ZP rules? Do people ever give invites to complete newbs, with only one or two posts? My guess is no. It must be a nightmare for mods trying to keep track of all the new useless threads. I would like to suggest something. If people are too lazy to read the rules or do a common search, why not give them a firm warning or just ban them right off?

[Potato]

If that's what Jorge wanted us to do, I'd want to get paid for it. It would require the mods to be here way more often and well, I think we have lives outside of zp.

[carpefile]

My penny input (realizing I don't actually rate 2 cents)
Get rid of invite trading here altogether. Its worthless, it spams up the boards and draws people who add nothing to the community at all.
The only positive thing about it I can see is that it seems to irritate members here more than I do. Mostly anyways.:icon_blac

[luckyaba]

I think the idea of the invite system is a good idea. It gives people that that don't know where or how to engage in the BT community a place to come and learn. At the same time it does attract other people that do add to the community.

It's kinda like poker. Everyone can remember every bad beat with an amazing amount of details but those good nights you have the only thing you remember is that it happened.

I think a more strict system is not a bad idea at all. Maybe they could implement a "newb" mute mode. : P

[RACKnRAIL]

My penny input (realizing I don't actually rate 2 cents)
Get rid of invite trading here altogether. Its worthless, it spams up the boards and draws people who add nothing to the community at all.
The only positive thing about it I can see is that it seems to irritate members here more than I do. Mostly anyways.:icon_blac

I agree. Get rid of invite trading altogether. It is not well looked upon in the private tracker community. A lot of private sites will ban your ass for trading your invites. We, as a reputable p2p site, should support that, not promote it.

[meyou123]

I agree. Get rid of invite trading altogether. It is not well looked upon in the private tracker community. A lot of private sites will ban your ass for trading your invites. We, as a reputable p2p site, should support that, not promote it.


Well I agree about the banning of bit torrent invites altogether...there are SOME I guess who may come here as a newb and actually contribute something.

But the ratio between people who now join ZP just to be able to get into invite trading and those who just join to talk about filesharing has grown in the invite traders favor since bit torrent trading was introduced here.

[cheapprick]

Ban them all.

If they return to start a thread crying, ban the ip too.

[enter8]

I've seen two approaches to begging. They both pretty much eradicate begging from the main forum area.

1. Zero tolerance - any member caught asking for invites gets immediately banned. The sites I belong to that have this policy have zero begging, and, I'm telling you, it's like a breath of fresh air. As Potato mentioned, though, it makes a lot of extra work for the moderators.

2. Confine it to a separate forum - Create a "Bittorrent Requests" area and let the beggars beg to their hearts content.

Those two approaches are proven to work. Are they viable here? I have no idea.

I do know one thing, though. If something isn't done, begging is only going to get worse. The term 'plague' comes to mind.

[robincheema]

well may be we can have a Section for Trash (were all the noobish/begging posts go) and it should be auto punned every week or 2 weeks..

[meyou123]

well may be we can have a Section for Trash (were all the noobish/begging posts go) and it should be auto punned every week or 2 weeks..


You may be on to something there! It may not make much more work for the mods, if they could prune it all in one place! Instead of having to comb through all the forums for begging posts.

But if they DO make that place on ZP, then there needs to be zero tolerance for begging on the rest of the forums after a general warning has been posted about it...that way no one could say they had not been warned

[cheapprick]

Or just ban them all.

If they return to start a thread crying, ban the ip too.

[inacxch]

well instead create a giveaway thread and give invites to the needy :drunken_s

[carpefile]

well instead create a giveaway thread and give invites to the needy :drunken_s
Riiigghht.

You think there's begging now? Make a giveaway thread and multiply the begging by at least a factor of ten.:hi

[GuyFawks]

Ban the beggers.

[meyou123]

Or just ban them all.

If they return to start a thread crying, ban the ip too.


The problem with what you suuggest, is that if you "ban them all", the mods have to search all through the forums to see if people are begging or not.


The other suggestion was better, in that it put them all in one place.

[spawn143]

well instead create a giveaway thread and give invites to the needy :drunken_s

yes put all in one thread!!!

[uselesscrap]

yes put all in one thread!!!

they don't stay in one thread now for invite trading. what would possibly make you think they'd stay in one thread to beg for them?? NOT!

[CiS]

Personally I don't understand it. I'm new to the site. I have never begged and I was already a member of several private trackers before I got here. How did I become a member? The hard way. Every morning I would check the same 4 or 5 sites and get denied because they were full. Well eventually I got on a couple but some took months of trying. Once you get on a few then your list just keeps growing. Everybody wants things right away now, they don't want to work for it.

Anyone with half of a brain can read the rules for trading invites here. So either they 1) just blatantly disregard the rules because they don't care or 2) are dumb as fuck. Either way they probably don't belong.

Being a mod on the board is not an easy job and there is no easy solution. Keep up the good work...

[Potato]

Anyone with half of a brain can read the rules for trading invites here. So either they 1) just blatantly disregard the rules because they don't care or 2) are dumb as fuck. Either way they probably don't belong.

See, I don't think they read the rules... just post and post and beg and whine.

[CiS]

See, I don't think they read the rules... just post and post and beg and whine.

Ok then that falls under #2 :icon_rr:

[robincheema]

well may be have keyword scanning if u see any emails like gmail or hotmail or yahoo in there posts just ban them...

[mkhalifa]

I think a giveaway section and request section will be good beside the trading section

[notbob]

i just neg rep anyone who starts such a thread into the stone age. if i saw them on the street i'd kick them in the balls too

[notbob]

Well I agree about the banning of bit torrent invites altogether...there are SOME I guess who may come here as a newb and actually contribute something.

But the ratio between people who now join ZP just to be able to get into invite trading and those who just join to talk about filesharing has grown in the invite traders favor since bit torrent trading was introduced here.

uhh no. there are zillions of one post idiots. invite traders are whores. i think it should be limited to the vip lounge, though i'm not sure i want it there either

[enter8]

if i saw them on the street i'd kick them in the balls too

Was that you? I'm still walking funny.

[spawn143]

its better if u warn tat no begging of invites in this thread at the starting of the thread and if u still find such people even after warning ban them!!!

[farklefred]

marijuana is not a drug. i used to suck dick for invites, did you ever suck dick for some weed?

no

didn't think so.

[fridgt]

or you could do what we do on our clan site ...have the invite swap part hidden once the required points are raised and the minimum post count met then put them into another category, we have several on our site - main for members next for clan members only next for staff only and last for admins..
that way when googled their is no metion at all about invite swapping on this site as you have to be a certain rank to even see the area.. also put members at ease for swapping from sites that shone it.
and then new members will only come to talk about topics and once they meet the requirements they get "promoted" and able to see the trading section (and im sure once implemented new members will be surprised that you even offer that part on site as they would have no idea it was avaible)
well thats just one way you could filter out unwanted spam.

[jazzedup]

The invites section is one way of getting people to the site. If that's hidden from search engines, I doubt this place will have as many members as it had now. I also ended up here searching for "open invites" or something like that. The problem here is that every post twists and turns and finally becomes an "invite begging topic". I noticed that in most multi-page threads! What we can do is keep some mods (regular users) to help clean out such topics/posts. The members must be warned, and later banned if they keep repeating it! What do you say about it?

[HelenaP]

The invites section is one way of getting people to the site. If that's hidden from search engines, I doubt this place will have as many members as it had now....

So, you believe it will be the end of ZP?
<*funny how I have heard that argument before*>


...I also ended up here searching for "open invites" or something like that.

No offense, but I thought as much.

However, what good is having "many members" if 3/4 of them are traders?
They rarely (maybe 2%, after starting to trade) post outside of the trade section.
Except to meet a minimum post requirement.

ZP has plenty of non-trading members to keep the site open without them...



The problem here is that every post twists and turns and finally becomes an "invite begging topic". I noticed that in most multi-page threads!

My God, you noticed???
There are almost always veiled trades going on (look at sigs).


What we can do is keep some mods (regular users) to help clean out such topics/posts. The members must be warned, and later banned if they keep repeating it! What do you say about it?

I doubt any of the mods want that job. I wouldn't. Other sites might suggest that if a person comes up with a great idea for a section, they be made moderator over it.
Good way to get free invites, huh?

I also think it's highly commendable, the people that want to give invites away. Too bad you can't have one without the other.

Bottom line-
Greedy traders (people that already have the sites, but just want extra to play the "trade game" with) have screwed it up for anyone wanting to get into a level 2-3 tracker.

Oh well.

[jazzedup]

1. No, I meant that many people end up here after searching for invites. Some stay, some don't stay after they get them.

2. Do you think I would be foolish enough to reveal that I was here "only for invites" if I was writing that? No.

I've liked this place and will continue to hang in here even if I get some crap of an Invite!

3. What did I do to make you talk so sarcastically?

4. Well, now when I think about it, moderation is a post of high responsibility and I think I would refuse to become a mod even If I didn't have any job to do and someone provided me with free internet.

If I insulted you or anyone in anyway, sorry ;)

[Potato]

There weren't as many idiots before the trading shit came along.

[HelenaP]

....

3. What did I do to make you talk so sarcastically?

4. Well, now when I think about it, moderation is a post of high responsibility and I think I would refuse to become a mod even If I didn't have any job to do and someone provided me with free internet.

If I insulted you or anyone in anyway, sorry ;)

You did nothing to me, so no worries there.
No offense taken, so no apology necessary (but thanks anyway). :)
Nothing was meant (towards you) specifically nor sarcastically. Yours just happened to be the post I was responding to. I was thinking out loud, which is something I might try harder to avoid.

No harm, no foul.

[fridgt]

i came to this site after search for invites knowing the site i was looking for have no invites but its good to have site like this where you can talk bout clients and other stuff as well but maby advertise the invite swapping but still keep it hidden until members qualify for it so it keeps it out of site what your swapping ..
as sites like this are good for info regarding clients and what torrent sites out there .. as i also visit cd freaks regularly even after i got the info i required as there are good topics and info im interested in
maby if the requirements to invite swap was raised those looking for a quick hit and run will not bother trying to achieve the requirements to start trading