Should everyone be allowed to vote???

[Mels_Smileys45]

I think everyone should have the opportunity to vote but I think there should be some stipulations other than the ones already in place.


1) one must take an IQ test and score over a 90

2) one must take a test to evaluate if they know the political issues of the day

3) they must know each candidates stance on the political issues.


If they do not pass these tests I feel they do not need to vote. Stupid people voting for moronic reasons makes me want to scream. When I hear people say they only vote republican or I only vote Democrat I want to call them an idiot. I know this post might piss some people off but please think about it. We all should vote for the BEST person for the job not the person who belongs to the party we like the best. That very reason is why we have a retard in the white house right now. A freaking C student, who I wouldnt trust to change a light bulb, controls the most powerful military force in the world. NOT good!

When I see these ads with people like P diddyshimself saying rock the vote and whatnot I have no doubt how this country came to be run by an idiot. When you encourage idiots to go out and use their vote without having a clue if they know anything about politics youre being irresponsible.


I know people who vote for candidates simply because of who their parants are voting for. This shit must stop! Its time to take the right to vote away from the simpletons!

[soulxtc]

well firstly, voting day should be a national holiday.

Secondly, for better or worse, stupidity doesnt make people less of a citizen.

[don webb]

How about #4. Be able to read and write in English ?

:icon_salu

[Mels_Smileys45]

well firstly, voting day should be a national holiday.

Secondly, for better or worse, stupidity doesnt make people less of a citizen.


I didnt say it made them less of a person or anything like that. It does make them unfit to make judgements that could effect the entire world. Im not trying to degrade the tards but we must somehow come up with a way to refine the process. We are passed the point of saying "oh well, fuck it. Even tards have the right to decide our fate". We have to act responsibly and let the best minds choose the leadership of our nation. People who do not know anything about politics and nothing about who they are voting for other than what party they belong to are going to be our doom and perhap get millions of others killed along the way.


I wouldnt let a tard operate on me and we shouldnt let them decide who gets access to the button. Its only good common sense. If you dont know all the issues and the stance of the person you are voting for on those issues you should know about then you should not feel an obligation to vote simply because you have the right. People who do this are not only dumb, theyre a danger to the world. Stop, think and do the right thing. If you don't know, do some research. If you can't understand the issues at hand, DONT VOTE! If you dont have time to read and decide who best supports the issues you agree with then DONT VOTE!

If we can not trust people to do these things then we need to test them on the issues and weed out the people who do not know who and what they are voting on.


How about #4. Be able to read and write in English ?


Hey Don, long time no see. Thats a no brainer but does that make them any less of a person? lol

[Signa]

i like the national holiday idea. im sure a lot of smarter people would vote if they had the time/energy from not working that day. im sure a lot of dumber people would vote too though...

for me though, i dont vote. there have been a few times i have been compelled to register, but i dont feel anymore that its worth the effort. on top of that, i dont even think i get a choice in the matter at all. you get 2 cannidates that are pre-selected for you. They are usually chosen for reasons and by people that you wouldnt agree with either. there is no option C, only A and B. then after all this, i remember that if i even register to vote, i can be called for jury duty. that may not be a bad thing, but i dont want to do it.

edit: as for the poll, im leaning towards the "pussies" option. and mel should not be allowed to vote because he is too dumb to spell "should" correctly.

[Mels_Smileys45]

edit: as for the poll, im leaning towards the "pussies" option. and mel should not be allowed to vote because he is too dumb to spell "should" correctly.



Lol! I didnt even notice that! One day I will have to start using a spell checker because my spelling is really bad. BTW, I didnt vote. Also I do not vote in elections myself because I do not research the issues enough to make an intelligent decision. I have thought about voting a few times but never followed through with it. Voting for the sake of voting when you do not know the candidates past and how they stand on important issues is for people who cant spell should.....


BTW, I spelled it right on the thread title but did a typo on the poll form. I am deeply sorry for the confusion and I will try and do better in my next life.

[HelenaP]

We all should vote for the BEST person for the job...

Agreed.


...not the person who belongs to the party we like the best.

Agreed.

That very reason is why we have a retard in the white house right now.

Must disagree...

More than a couple of Texans do not believe (key word) Bush won the first election (or the second for that matter). During the first, we were told the votes were in...

"er...um... DOH! Sorry! No they're not!" (CNN).

Conveniently for him, all of the sudden and out of the blue (I feared profuse, projectile vomiting was imminent at this point) , the vote was "rocked" by his middle sibling's (Jeb) state (FL).

IMHO, that election was bought and paid for, most likely by the the elder idiot (Bush), Skull and Bones, the "enlightened ones" (NWO. The Illuminati? Who knows), SOMEBODY. Why the hell they thought this a sound decision, is beyond many.

Wonder who they will pick next. Let's hope for the best, but expect the worst.

A freaking C student, who I wouldnt trust to change a light bulb, controls the most powerful military force in the world. NOT good!

Agreed, dam*it.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Must disagree...

More than a couple of Texans do not believe (key word) Bush won the first election (or the second for that matter). During the first, we were told the votes were in...

"er...um... DOH! Sorry! No they're not!" (CNN).

Conveniently for him, all of the sudden and out of the blue (I feared profuse, projectile vomiting was imminent at this point) , the vote was "rocked" by his middle sibling's (Jeb) state (FL).

IMHO, that election was bought and paid for, most likely by the the elder idiot (Bush), Skull and Bones, the "enlightened ones" (NWO. The Illuminati? Who knows), SOMEBODY. Why the hell they thought this a sound decision, is beyond many.

Wonder who they will pick next. Let's hope for the best, but expect the worst.



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Thats a whole different topic but I will agree, I do not trust the voting system anymore either. There was some people looking inot this but they seem to have vanished off the face of the Earth. How can we know if we really have the Prez who actually won anymore?



BTW, who likes my new avatar?

[HelenaP]

I wouldn't say it a different topic since you stated-

That very reason is why we have a retard in the white house right now.

I only felt it my duty to help clarify and point a few folks along the path of Nirvana. LOL!

Now about your avatar;
Since I am fixing to post about a most touchy subject over here, (http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=498644&postcount=62) and get the neg rep slammed on me (which will bring the miraculous 577 points I accrued this morning, down), AND since I am horribly and unspeakably worried about how many of these dearest points I have (LOL!), I will say to you,

"Wow, Mels! Quiet a visually stimulating avatar! Would you please find one as tasty for me?"

IF...

you will slam me further down in rep points, so that the people I will be aiming to "help", will feel someone among them is speaking to them (as opposed to it sounding as if coming from someone "better than" they are)
It's the only kind thing to do for them. My sacrifice. Join the martyrdom.
Then perhaps they will find some "People Addicted to Reputation Points" recovery center/meeting, and/or stop slinging snot about theirs being in the red.

If you will do this (plus eliminate the one "needstobegone" person I spoke to you about in your other thread, which BTW, you never responded to, but I now have cash)... I will even whisper, into your ear (or shout to the P2P world, your choice)-

"Wow, Mels! Quiet a visually stimulating avatar! Would you please find one as tasty for me?."

What say you?

[Excrement_Cranium]

ROFL!


I think ONLY people w/ over 500 rep points on Zeropaid should be allowed to vote... all that rep, they must R B smartererererer.

[HelenaP]

<just comes in from a walk. sees Excr's post. looks above his/her post to see if rep is still over 500. *breaths sigh of relief*>
I can still vote!

(Edit- Reason:I forgot something...

There was some people looking inot this but they seem to have vanished off the face of the Earth.

Vanished most likely when Gonzales came in and fired <*cough*>... "replaced" all 93 U.S. attorneys...but that's just my unedjimakated guess)

(Edit- I agree. People with under average IQ's should not be allowed to vote.
Doesn't make them less of a human being (or to discount their feelings). Just means they do not need to be voting for the person that is going to run our country)

[pward33]

1) one must take an IQ test and score over a 90

You ask me, that test should also be applied to those who want to stand for election in the first place, most would fail and we might finally end up with something worth voting for!

[HelenaP]

Was on my way out the door earlier. I forgot this, too...

Secondly, for better or worse, stupidity doesnt make people less of a citizen.

While this is true, stupidity has quite a lot to do with committing and being convicted of a crime and the law states (last I talked to a convicted felon) that in doing so, one is less of a citizen enough to take away a their right to vote or carry a gun (felony only, I think. I am no expert)...

[whitenoise22]

Mels u really are against stupid ppl.
Just make sure u arent one before u keep posting more ;)

[Malakai1911]

ROFL!


I think ONLY people w/ over 500 rep points on Zeropaid should be allowed to vote... all that rep, they must R B smartererererer.

I fail :(.

edit: Oh wait, I've been getting some rep lately. Go me! I can vote!

[whitenoise22]

If this was in place no one would vote, i wouldnt do all this shit just to vote. Like the iq test.

[Signa]

If this was in place no one would vote, i wouldnt do all this shit just to vote. Like the iq test.

that might actually help things as you would get rid of all the stupid AND lazy people from voting. smart and go-getter types prolly make better voters anyway. its all subjective, but it sure beats a stupid/lazy voter hands down.

[whitenoise22]

Yeah maybe, but there always bitchin about not enough people voting.

[Excrement_Cranium]

that might actually help things as you would get rid of all the stupid AND lazy people from voting. smart and go-getter types prolly make better voters anyway. its all subjective, but it sure beats a stupid/lazy voter hands down.

The lazy people already skip out on voting... :O

[Signa]

Yeah maybe, but there always bitchin about not enough people voting.

people are always bitching about who gets elected, so what we need is less bitching.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Mels u really are against stupid ppl.
Just make sure u arent one before u keep posting more ;)


actually, I dont think I could pass and thats why Im not going to vote this time. I havent kept up with the issues and im not going to vote simply because I can.

[HelenaP]

people are always bitching about who gets elected, so what we need is less bitching.

Ah-Ha!
This is why the old saying is alive and well;
"If you don't vote, then don't bi*ch."
(other variation is you "...you can't bi*ch.")

[Rocker19]

Yes.......unless your a redneck from.....or God freak.

[DigitalJunkie]

@Mels,

I know how you feel about elections. For me, I didn't vote because politicians flips on where they stand on issues & their dirty election campaigns with each others just to get votes! Doesn't show me any integrity from them, so how can reasonable person trust them? So like you, I can't vote.

[Sephiroth]

I think everyone should have the opportunity to vote but I think there should be some stipulations other than the ones already in place.


1) one must take an IQ test and score over a 90

2) one must take a test to evaluate if they know the political issues of the day

3) they must know each candidates stance on the political issues.


If they do not pass these tests I feel they do not need to vote. Stupid people voting for moronic reasons makes me want to scream. When I hear people say they only vote republican or I only vote Democrat I want to call them an idiot. I know this post might piss some people off but please think about it. We all should vote for the BEST person for the job not the person who belongs to the party we like the best. That very reason is why we have a retard in the white house right now. A freaking C student, who I wouldnt trust to change a light bulb, controls the most powerful military force in the world. NOT good!

When I see these ads with people like P diddyshimself saying rock the vote and whatnot I have no doubt how this country came to be run by an idiot. When you encourage idiots to go out and use their vote without having a clue if they know anything about politics youre being irresponsible.


I know people who vote for candidates simply because of who their parants are voting for. This shit must stop! Its time to take the right to vote away from the simpletons!

I don't agree what prohibiting people from voting is a very good idea, it was something that was used in the past with poll taxes and literacy tests and it just winds up discriminating against people.

Just because some people don't vote how you want them too or aren't a ideal voter in your mind doesn't mean they are wrong to vote who they vote for nor does it mean they shouldn't be allowed to vote. Yes it is irresponsible, yes it is even dumb, but a person has a right to vote no matter how irresponsible or dumb it may seems.

I think the real problem is the partisan nature of the country which is the real problem and although everyone likes to defend who they agree with as more morally upright and better than the other, the truth is both parties are guilty of all of the criticism that gets thrown back and forth.

Its really the partisan nature and mean spiritedness that politics has taken in the past years that really prevent the best people from running for office of taking of appointed positions. To the point that where if you don't like someone's political position in office then that makes them a bad, corrupt, and evil person.

[tackdaddy]

After Bush took office for a second time I made a vow to never vote again. I do not share the views of any set political party. I see myself as a conservative liberal because i see some things right and wrong on each side. I also have come to a conclusion that all politicians are worthless lumps of shit that never really accomplish what the people want and only do things to help themselves. All of them are rich because only people with money can actually get voted in. I say instead of "rock the vote" how about "stop the vote", all politicians suck. I say we vote for the chick in my avatar(Ewa Sonnet), she sucks also but in a good way.

[Mels_Smileys45]

I don't agree what prohibiting people from voting is a very good idea, it was something that was used in the past with poll taxes and literacy tests and it just winds up discriminating against people.

Just because some people don't vote how you want them too or aren't a ideal voter in your mind doesn't mean they are wrong to vote who they vote for nor does it mean they shouldn't be allowed to vote. Yes it is irresponsible, yes it is even dumb, but a person has a right to vote no matter how irresponsible or dumb it may seems.

I think the real problem is the partisan nature of the country which is the real problem and although everyone likes to defend who they agree with as more morally upright and better than the other, the truth is both parties are guilty of all of the criticism that gets thrown back and forth.

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This is why we will see Hulk Hogan or the Rock as President in 10 years or so. I feel like we are living out the movie Idocracy. Evolution no longer seems to reward the ones who are more intellegent as theses people tend to have on child at best while the trailer parks are full of rug rats.


I have problems with people who know nothing about who they are voting for and only vote because someone told them who to vote for. There is nothing anyone can do about this so we shouldnt be surprised when America becomes the land of poverty.

[Sephiroth]

This is why we will see Hulk Hogan or the Rock as President in 10 years or so. I feel like we are living out the movie Idocracy. Evolution no longer seems to reward the ones who are more intellegent as theses people tend to have on child at best while the trailer parks are full of rug rats.


I have problems with people who know nothing about who they are voting for and only vote because someone told them who to vote for. There is nothing anyone can do about this so we shouldnt be surprised when America becomes the land of poverty.

The theory of evolution is not really about intelligence, its more about survival. I don't think just because someone is born into a poor family is somehow less intelligent than someone born into a rich or modest family. There have been many great people in human history that grew up in poor homes or whose parents were not very intelligent.

I think you made your point that you have a problem with how people vote a certain way or the decision some people use when voting. Those people tend to not effect elections, and you have no right to question how other people vote or for whom they vote for. If it really bothers you so much then why don't you vote instead of just making up excuses of why you aren't going to vote in a election that isn't going to happen for over a year.

[DwarfBaby]

I thought I'd post this Link (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/24/world/africa/24cnd-poll.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin) here as it speaks of viewpoints of both democracy and the dire poor and their voting rights in sub-Saharan Africa.

People are people and one certainty over-rides the rest, We seldom completely agree on anything.

[Signa]

The theory of evolution is not really about intelligence, its more about survival. I don't think just because someone is born into a poor family is somehow less intelligent than someone born into a rich or modest family. There have been many great people in human history that grew up in poor homes or whose parents were not very intelligent.

I think you made your point that you have a problem with how people vote a certain way or the decision some people use when voting. Those people tend to not effect elections, and you have no right to question how other people vote or for whom they vote for. If it really bothers you so much then why don't you vote instead of just making up excuses of why you aren't going to vote in a election that isn't going to happen for over a year.

i still dont see how evolution is rewarding intelegence if there is no constant of survival. evolution will only work if a certain superior trait is rewarded over a weaker. in human society, life is valued the most, so life will be dominant, regardless of any trait. whats going to happen instead is at least a paralelle to what happened in idiocracy: a massive overwhelming by the masses that are underintellegent and therefore bad voters. i dont think mel was wrong in what he suggested. you are correct on one thing, there are exceptions, and those people are the ones that i would count on to not vote for "Mountain Dew" for prez. the sad part is that they will be a minority, and in democracy, minorities never win.

as for your second point, i think we concluded pretty well that voting is quickly becoming a sham. it doesnt matter who you vote for, you never really had a choice to begin with. voting instead of complaining wont solve anything. hell, it would just add to the problem. oh, and saying that people who vote on baseless points about the canidates dont affect anything borders on asinine because the whole damn thing it just one big fucking popularity contest. the canidates do whatever it takes to get the almighty vote from you, even if all that means is smiling better than their opponent. they dont care what made you make your choice, as long as it means they get into office. at least by not voting, you can say when our next president nukes some country, "I didnt vote for him."

i think mel has made a great point that i never even thought of. it isnt our superiors making the bad decisions, its us. WE are effecting the world with OUR mistakes, and the only ones of us that are smart enough to realize that are too few to make a difference.

[Mels_Smileys45]

you have no right to question how other people vote or for whom they vote for. If it really bothers you so much then why don't you vote instead of just making up excuses of why you aren't going to vote in a election that isn't going to happen for over a year.


I have no rights? Hmmmm. I'll try and remember that. Im not making excuses, Im giving logical reasons. Its simply logic really, if people dont know why they are voting for someone then they shouldnt vote at all. A simple test to find out if people know anything about the issues at hand should be standard practice.


it isnt our superiors making the bad decisions, its us. WE are effecting the world with OUR mistakes, and the only ones of us that are smart enough to realize that are too few to make a difference.


BINGO man. Thats what im sayin'

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Yeah, we're responsible for the geniouses who lead us.

Schwarzenegger is living proof of that.

[Auggie2k]

I don't vote, one little vote won't make a difference and arseholes are always elected in my area no matter what. Simon Cowell should be the judge ha!

[Excrement_Cranium]

Who was that little guy!?!!?

WTF you been Auggie? Been buried in another hottie?

[Sephiroth]

I have no rights? Hmmmm. I'll try and remember that. Im not making excuses, Im giving logical reasons. Its simply logic really, if people dont know why they are voting for someone then they shouldnt vote at all. A simple test to find out if people know anything about the issues at hand should be standard practice.



If you really are so logical and analytical then you should quickly see the problem in allowing one person or one group deciding the criteria in who is competent to vote in the system. It would quickly be abuse.

Your whole system assumes that the candidates are telling the truth on their position and will actually do what they say. Which never happens so why quiz people on it.

Your assuming that the dumb voters you are describing is large enough to influence elections, I don't think they do.

I agree with the point that its the voters problem for who gets elected, but I do not think the idea you proposed in this thread.

I think the larger issue here is the polarization of politics, the stereotyping, and the personal attacks of people just because of different political opinions. It is those kind of things in my opinion that leads people to just blindly vote for a particular party, candidate or issue without really knowing much about it.

[HelenaP]

I agree with the point that its the voters problem for who gets elected...

I have chosen not to vote this year as to me, it is the lesser of two evils. I voted in the last two elections and both times, Bush rocked the vote (by whatever means). My vote didn't count enough...and still it's my problem. It would be my problem even had I not voted.

I have lost faith in our voting system (among others), and still I will b*tch about who is elected.
I take marginal solace in the thought that it won't be Bush.
Yet the repercussions of his presidency will live long.

[Signa]

I think the larger issue here is the polarization of politics, the stereotyping, and the personal attacks of people just because of different political opinions. It is those kind of things in my opinion that leads people to just blindly vote for a particular party, candidate or issue without really knowing much about it.

i totally agree with this. imagine having 8 different choices for a position. anyone stupid enough to waste their vote would be doing just that. it would fix the issue this whole thread is about. no one would be elected when they shouldnt be. on the otherhand, having the vote broken into so many cannidates could mean that only 1/3 of the population votes for a person and they win. that is one good thing about having two parties. you will have the majority of the population wanting a cannidate, and not just a fraction.

[jeffgwa]

I think the problem now is that we allow everyone to vote, so no one wants to. It's the same way a cat will play with a string if you tease him with it, but then you drop it and it no longer cares. So, I say we start telling people directly that they can't and shouldn't vote and see what happens.

[kippies]

If you really are so logical and analytical then you should quickly see the problem in allowing one person or one group deciding the criteria in who is competent to vote in the system. It would quickly be abuse.

Your whole system assumes that the candidates are telling the truth on their position and will actually do what they say. Which never happens so why quiz people on it.

Your assuming that the dumb voters you are describing is large enough to influence elections, I don't think they do.

I agree with the point that its the voters problem for who gets elected, but I do not think the idea you proposed in this thread.

I think the larger issue here is the polarization of politics, the stereotyping, and the personal attacks of people just because of different political opinions. It is those kind of things in my opinion that leads people to just blindly vote for a particular party, candidate or issue without really knowing much about it.

Go with the system Robert Heinlen proposed many years ago as he saw this stuff coming- you enter the polling both, are faced with a quadratic equation, if you solve it you get to vote if not the booth opens up empty.....

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Now that sounds cool.

[Mels_Smileys45]

You guys talk about this some more. Its fun and Im bored.

[HelenaP]

You guys talk about this some more. Its fun and Im bored.

LOL.
Mels, my stance remains the same as above.
However, it's actually sort of fun wondering if we are going to have a woman or a black man in the White House next term.
Most everyone will bitc* regardless, eh?

On a lighter note, I can give you some numbers I found in a rest area stall if you're bored.
LMAO!

[ROMANTICGUY50]

I vote. I listen to friends of mine complain what is wrong with the system and what they don't like going on in the country but they will not vote. It one way for their voice to be heard. Write letter's to your senator's and congress men and women. I do and get an answer back. I went to a rally in Harrisburg, Pa. to help fight against cuts in health care and mental health funding. These are a few ways to make your voice heard. I am sure there are other ways for people's voice's to be heard . But yes VOTE that's a start.

[carpefile]

I read this thread, about how there is no one to vote for, or how one little vote doesn't count, or that stupid people shouldn't vote.

The reality is that the people who do vote are the ones that elect people. Abstaining from voting just makes it more likely that the guy you don't want gets elected.
Apathy of the system will never change the system.
One little vote is just a drop in the bucket, true, but drops WILL fill the bucket, collectively votes matter.

I know its not popular to discuss politics here, but after reading the major complaints about the lesser of two evils, flip flopping on issues, and no one with integrity to vote for, all I can say is RON PAUL.
Just look him over, please. He is That Guy. The two things that will guarantee that business as usual will continue perpetually are apathy and ignorance.

Instead of cursing the darkness, light a candle.

[ROMANTICGUY50]

I read this thread, about how there is no one to vote for, or how one little vote doesn't count, or that stupid people shouldn't vote.

The reality is that the people who do vote are the ones that elect people. Abstaining from voting just makes it more likely that the guy you don't want gets elected.
Apathy of the system will never change the system.
One little vote is just a drop in the bucket, true, but drops WILL fill the bucket, collectively votes matter.

I know its not popular to discuss politics here, but after reading the major complaints about the lesser of two evils, flip flopping on issues, and no one with integrity to vote for, all I can say is RON PAUL.
Just look him over, please. He is That Guy. The two things that will guarantee that business as usual will continue perpetually are apathy and ignorance.

Instead of cursing the darkness, light a candle.

I agree mostly with what you said . if every body votes there can be a difference. Every vote counts

[lezwez]

These test sound silly for one iq tests say nothing about a person high class educated people could fail to a person who sweeps roads iq test do not determin how smart sombody is its just childs play and can be different each time with different tests which would indecate they are useless and lack proper content. second if everyone had to take iq tests who ever wanted to vote nobody would bother due to being lazy and just say arrr or the chaos of half a country takeing these test i cant see an election ever happening 30 million iq test haha. polical issues not everyone is clued up people are told something in the media and beleive what ever it is they are told when half of it is lies so only people who can take the truth and see what it what for themselves is another problem because not many people pay attention and only listen to what they are told and beleives lies to be the truth because they are told it is the truth when in reality it is bollocks. im sure i made my point clearish

For these reasons the tests would not work.:icon_cycl

im quite clued up on poltics so i could argue all day i will not comment on my views as i don't want to start a left middle and right and lost kind of arument.

my answer no not everyone should be allowed to vote

[CCSDUDE]

everyone has a right to vote even infants

the 'issues' at hand mean fuck all when every political hack is a snake in sheeps clothing

I'm sure we'd see better people in office if children had the right to vote since they obviously sense asshole-ness without the tainted social standings we all add to the mix

IE a child doesn't give two shits about clinton getting extra-marital ass thus if they find him to be straight forward and honest in nature they'll vote for 'em if not they won't

we get all mixed up in the things that have no use power or purpose in the system thus we all end up voting in the worst or the 2nd lesser of evils instead of the least evil of the bunch

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

everyone has a right to vote even infants

I will personally hunt you down if Barney ever makes a political office.:hi

[CCSDUDE]

lmfao you'd be tails to my sonic hot on his purple ass

cuz I'd gladly snipe that purple bastard for profiting off all those poor special ed kids

[Signa]

This topic just came up on another forum I visit, and without reading more than 2 posts in an 10 page thread, I came up with a perfect solution.

As we discussed before, it was impossible to rectify things because the stupid masses are ruining the Earth, and making the intelligent elite out of qualified voters is heading down another rocky road that we shouldn't even consider. My idea is that instead of passing a pre-qualifying exam, voters display their intelligence at the polls by answering a random question. If they get it right, their vote counts for double. They never get to know if they got the question right or wrong, so you can't separate the Stupids from the Intelligents. This way, the smart people have more voting power to keep retards out of political offices, and the masses can still fall for the shiny trinkets that politicians offer without it helping their polls as much. The real trick is formulating a bunch of questions that can be answered quickly without guesswork and are bipartisan. Multiple choice is out of the question because you can't have Cletus and Jethro just getting lucky and having two votes. Then there would be the problem of counting the extra votes, because it would require a lot more effort to evaluate answers for the double credit. That hurdle sounds a lot more surmountable though.

[mountain_rage]

Controlling who can vote is a problematic scenario as it just invites a new layer to manipulate. How could you possibly verify the legitimacy of the system? Anyway you all have it wrong, you don't need to be checking the voters, you need to check people wanting to run for office. First of all, they should be required to find the United States on an unmarked globe, Should know the Universe does not revolve around the white house, and above all else at least accept the fact that evolution is a fundamental theory of science that cannot be undone by the belief of creationism.

[Excrement_Cranium]

Controlling who can vote is the conservative gameplan as it just invites a new layer to manipulate. How could you possibly verify the legitimacy of the system? Anyway you all have it wrong, you don't need to be checking the voters, you need to check people wanting to run for office. First of all, they should be required to find the United States on an unmarked globe, Should know the Universe does not revolve around the white house, and above all else at least accept the fact that evolution is a fundamental theory of science that cannot be undone by the belief of creationism.

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thirtycharssogostuffit

[Signa]

Controlling who can vote is a problematic scenario as it just invites a new layer to manipulate. How could you possibly verify the legitimacy of the system? Anyway you all have it wrong, you don't need to be checking the voters, you need to check people wanting to run for office. First of all, they should be required to find the United States on an unmarked globe, Should know the Universe does not revolve around the white house, and above all else at least accept the fact that evolution is a fundamental theory of science that cannot be undone by the belief of creationism.

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thirtycharssogostuffit
Agreed with both of your posts, but it was just a thought. Things are so fucked up, and letting stupid people run the country is just bad too.

[Signa]

Controlling who can vote is a problematic scenario as it just invites a new layer to manipulate. How could you possibly verify the legitimacy of the system? Anyway you all have it wrong, you don't need to be checking the voters, you need to check people wanting to run for office. First of all, they should be required to find the United States on an unmarked globe, Should know the Universe does not revolve around the white house, and above all else at least accept the fact that evolution is a fundamental theory of science that cannot be undone by the belief of creationism.

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thirtycharssogostuffit
Agreed with both of your posts, but it was just a thought. Things are so fucked up, and letting stupid people run the country is just bad too.

[Signa]

Controlling who can vote is a problematic scenario as it just invites a new layer to manipulate. How could you possibly verify the legitimacy of the system? Anyway you all have it wrong, you don't need to be checking the voters, you need to check people wanting to run for office. First of all, they should be required to find the United States on an unmarked globe, Should know the Universe does not revolve around the white house, and above all else at least accept the fact that evolution is a fundamental theory of science that cannot be undone by the belief of creationism.

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thirtycharssogostuffit
Agreed with both of your posts, but it was just a thought. Things are so fucked up, and letting stupid people run the country is just bad too.