utorrent 1.7.1 Bad?

[ourthing2]

Got this PM from a private tracker:

-----------------------------MASS PM TO ALL MEMBERS--------------------

µtorrent 1.7.1 has now been banned from (private tracker). The new version contains a feature that sends your IP and upload/download information to the MPAA and the RIAA

We suggest that any member using this software immediately removes it from their computers and downgrade to µtorrent 1.6.1 which can be found at the link below.

Any truth to this? I'm still using 1.6.1 thank goodness.

[hearts_hacker]

I have searched net. But did not find any comments on this issue. If any body have any valid link plz post....

[ourthing2]

Just checked on some of my other private trackers, it's been banned on them as well.

[Sparky9]

http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=26483

[enter8]

http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=26483

From reading this thread, it appears that the trackers banning 1.7.1 are being too quick to judge and 1.7.1 is being falsely aligned.

I would really like to believe it. Really I would.

The fact is... utorrent was bought out by anti-p2p interests after version 1.6.1 came out. Everything after that is highly suspect. There's not a chance in hell that an anti-p2p entity is going to buy out a client and NOT eventually incorporate some form of DRM into it. To think otherwise would be incredibly naive.

A lot of people recommend sticking to 1.6.1, but I'm not even sure that's a good idea. What would stop utorrents owners from swapping out the version of 1.6.1 on their site with a spyware version? If you own 1.6.1 from before the takeover, sure, or if you can get it from a reliable source, fine, but I wouldn't download anything from utorrent.com. Not at this point.

I love 1.6.1 and never want to let it go, but the cold hard reality is that it's days are numbered. The moment anti-p2p interests got their grubby little hands on it, utorrent's fate was sealed.

Btw, I'm seeing a lot of people using 1.7x in private trackers. This is of tremendous concern to me. You can make it as hard as you want for members to join, but if you've got existing members using a client that's reporting outside the tracker... your members are screwed.

[Boomer The Dog]

Well, it is important to see the evidence, like logs of all network activity on a test computer, and capturing packets from it to see what they contain.

There are other reasons for companies monitoring peer to peer. Whether they say it or not, torrent statistics are valuable information to them, useful hot-or-not ranks of how popular TV and movies are doing, what kind of buzz is out there.

Yes I did let my µtorrent update without knowing about this, and I've seen at least 1/3 of the µtorrent users in swarms have also. One new feature I think is great is NAT-PMP, it got me through a router firewall that Upnp didn't work woof with, because apparently there were too many hops through switches to allow regular Upnp.

[kotekzot]

From reading this thread, it appears that the trackers banning 1.7.1 are being too quick to judge and 1.7.1 is being falsely aligned.

I would really like to believe it. Really I would.

The fact is... utorrent was bought out by anti-p2p interests after version 1.6.1 came out. Everything after that is highly suspect. There's not a chance in hell that an anti-p2p entity is going to buy out a client and NOT eventually incorporate some form of DRM into it. To think otherwise would be incredibly naive.

A lot of people recommend sticking to 1.6.1, but I'm not even sure that's a good idea. What would stop utorrents owners from swapping out the version of 1.6.1 on their site with a spyware version? If you own 1.6.1 from before the takeover, sure, or if you can get it from a reliable source, fine, but I wouldn't download anything from utorrent.com. Not at this point.

I love 1.6.1 and never want to let it go, but the cold hard reality is that it's days are numbered. The moment anti-p2p interests got their grubby little hands on it, utorrent's fate was sealed.

Btw, I'm seeing a lot of people using 1.7x in private trackers. This is of tremendous concern to me. You can make it as hard as you want for members to join, but if you've got existing members using a client that's reporting outside the tracker... your members are screwed.

i'm using utorrent 1.7.1 myself and promoting its use among users of my tracker. and i'm going to make you so scared you'll shit your hollow brain out.

[touki]

dont believe everything you read, its pretty clear the developers are trying to make a solid little program, it would be purely suicidal to put in place 'call home' features not to mention would cause a huge scandal

i like it but i am having a problem, when i minimize or close it, its not showing up in the tray. ill try a clean install and see how we go

[ourthing2]

Hers a new PM from the private tracker I got the first one from:

----------------------MASS MEMBER PM----------------

I have been checking packets sent from µtorrent 1.7.1 for the past few hours now, and I cannot find anything that states that anything is being reported to any authorities. I am therefore removing the ban on µtorrent 1.7.1. One of our staff has also spoken to one of their Development team. I am still yet to discuss finer details and concerns with this particular developer but all signs are looking good.
The measure of banning 1.7.1 was taken to assure the safety of our members until such proof could be found to discount these allegations

µtorrent 1.7 will remained banned due to problems with bugs that report false stats to the tracker.

If my other privates follow suit, then I'll be rest assured!

[kotekzot]

apparently people suffering from conspiracy theories can be cured with injections of common sense and brain. that's nice to know.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Ive always been more worried about the DHT feature which sends out info to some addy, I forget who owns it right now.

[drtoker]

no one should be using dht anyway 0_o

[enter8]

I think a few of you are missing the point.

A deal has been made with the devil. Utorrent is indirectly owned by the RIAA/MPAA.

Do you really think they're going to put out a client that continues to help people to steal their stuff?

A little common sense goes a long way in this issue.

[Sparky9]

I think a few of you are missing the point.

A deal has been made with the devil. Utorrent is indirectly owned by the RIAA/MPAA.

Do you really think they're going to put out a client that continues to help people to steal their stuff?

A little common sense goes a long way in this issue.

and a little PROOF goes a lot further.

[Xtripit]

You really are to lazy to google as your title says.

MPAA --> BitTorrent inc. --> uTorrent

[ChemicalX]

The fact that uTorrent was purchased by BitTorrent inc. is a known fact.
What people are saying about uTorrent 1.7.1 might be true, even though I seriously doubt it.

Anyway, I'm sticking with 1.6.1 for now.

[Xtripit]

I think a few of you are missing the point.

A deal has been made with the devil. Utorrent is indirectly owned by the RIAA/MPAA.

Do you really think they're going to put out a client that continues to help people to steal their stuff?

A little common sense goes a long way in this issue.

and a little PROOF goes a lot further.

You really are to lazy to google as your title says.

MPAA --> BitTorrent inc. --> uTorrent

What was this negative rep for???

utorrent 1.7.1 Bad? July 18th, 2007 09:23 AM Sparky9 proof of phoning home?

Did you ask for proof of phoning home? I guess you qouted wrong then, because I answered your question/statement to what you had quoted.

If you had asked for proof on phoning home I could have told you that no such proof has been made available yet.

Wonder if this is gonna get me negatively repped as well. Guess a warning to people who answer questions.

Should I go negative rep you now for unfair negative rep or how does this go??

Nah why bother sinking to your level :devil2

[Boomer The Dog]

I think the DHT system contacted router.utorrent.com, if I'm remembering right. I like DHT a lot, it's been a life saver for me, since I like old and rare stuff that doesn't keep a lot of seeds or peers lots of times.

Several times I've been able to finish files because of DHT allowing a peer exchange when the tracker was down, or the torrent had been deleted. If you like rare files, it seems to me DHT is like an extra security blanket.

[Sparky9]

The only known "adware" in utorrent is related to the search box, it will show ads in the results page for some keyword searches.
Which can be disabled by setting "gui.bypass_search_redirect" in "preferences>advanced" to "true"
But thats been there since before v1.6

[awdrifter]

I don't know why everyone is still using uTorrent after they've been bought by the MPAA. I'm glad that private trackers are finally banning uT, hopefully more trackers will follow. :icon_thum

[aoryx]

1.7.2 now relased
seems to work just fine

[Blue_Sky]

Someone on TD reported that uTorrent 1.6.1 was sending packets to BitTorrent Inc. He said he noticed it through Peer Guardian. Can anyone using Peer Guardian confirm?

[drtoker]

thousands of people have used, and are using, 1.6.1. If it was sending anything, you would have known a long time ago.
Let the rumors stop FFS

[Southgate]

Dude's most likely got check for updates automatically checked.

[IchiKenji]

I have always noticed my PG2 blocking a "BitTorrent inc." when booting up uTorrent.. Didn't think much of it...

[rick9]

wow....What client is acceptable everywhere? where can we dl it/ link?

[Southgate]

µTorrent 1.6.1 and Azureus 2.5.0.4 (the lovely folks at Bitme banned 3+)

µTorrent 1.6.1 is still around, you'll find it on sites. Azureus is at http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php

[uhujahu87]

I stick with my 1.6.1 version, no problems so far.:icon_thum

[isus]

What was this negative rep for???

utorrent 1.7.1 Bad? July 18th, 2007 09:23 AM Sparky9 proof of phoning home?

Did you ask for proof of phoning home? I guess you qouted wrong then, because I answered your question/statement to what you had quoted.

If you had asked for proof on phoning home I could have told you that no such proof has been made available yet.

Wonder if this is gonna get me negatively repped as well. Guess a warning to people who answer questions.

Should I go negative rep you now for unfair negative rep or how does this go??

Nah why bother sinking to your level :devil2

Damn, am I glad this thread got bumped...

I think a few of you are missing the point.

A deal has been made with the devil. Utorrent is indirectly owned by the RIAA/MPAA.

Do you really think they're going to put out a client that continues to help people to steal their stuff?

A little common sense goes a long way in this issue.

Is this sarcasm or are you really this stupid?

[VirusMage]

I'll just stick with Azureus.

[zaider]

uTorrent all the way. Good speeds and barely takes up any memory... but alot of banning of recent versions atm which is dowside to 1.7

[sempi]

Definitely stinks, uTorrent, AKA BitTorrent, Inc., AKA Paramount, 20th Century Fox, MTV, and Warner Brothers is dead. And, I just started p2p sharing a couple of days ago.

Which p2p software was the first one I unknowingly stumbled across and began foolishly using? You guessed it, the well advertised uTorrent. I actually thought I was using a hip program!

Then, after a few days, I began discovering the truth when stumbling across things like the post below - I spent hours reading though. There are probably tens of thousands of new uTorrent users every day like me, but that don't spend a few hours reading.

Anyone can easily confirm that uTorrent is in bed with those that are against the free sharing of files by merely going to the uTorrent site and looking at their Privacy Policy (http://utorrent.com/privacy.php), which states that uTorrnet is, "...owned and operated by BitTorrent, Inc., its affiliates and subsidiaries..." If you go to www.bittorrent.com you will see at the bottom of the page that some of BitTorrent's affiliates and subsidiaries include; 20th Century Fox, Comedy Central, Lionsgate Films, MTV Networks, Paramount, Spike, and Warner Bros.

How more obvious can you get? No proof of monitoring is needed.

uTorrent should no longer be recommended for file sharing at all. In fact, it should be avoided at all costs. Only those that have a bias interest in it will say otherwise.

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"The fact is... utorrent was bought out by anti-p2p interests after version 1.6.1 came out. Everything after that is highly suspect. There's not a chance in hell that an anti-p2p entity is going to buy out a client and NOT eventually incorporate some form of DRM into it. To think otherwise would be incredibly naive.

A lot of people recommend sticking to 1.6.1, but I'm not even sure that's a good idea. What would stop utorrents owners from swapping out the version of 1.6.1 on their site with a spyware version? If you own 1.6.1 from before the takeover, sure, or if you can get it from a reliable source, fine, but I wouldn't download anything from utorrent.com. Not at this point.

I love 1.6.1 and never want to let it go, but the cold hard reality is that it's days are numbered. The moment anti-p2p interests got their grubby little hands on it, utorrent's fate was sealed.

Btw, I'm seeing a lot of people using 1.7x in private trackers. This is of tremendous concern to me. You can make it as hard as you want for members to join, but if you've got existing members using a client that's reporting outside the tracker... your members are screwed."

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=498317&postcount=5

[freezingagent]

I also you Azureus, never had any problems.

[kotekzot]

blablabla

welcome to 3 months ago. utorrent 1.7.5 is being allowed on 99% of private trackers. 80% of peers in most swarms are using utorrent 1.7.2+, so you might as well stop using bittorrent at all, because you can't stop utorrent. it is the best client. no other way around it. either suck it up or get out.

[enter8]

Anyone can easily confirm that uTorrent is in bed with those that are against the free sharing of files by merely going to the uTorrent site and looking at their Privacy Policy, which states that uTorrnet is, "...owned and operated by BitTorrent, Inc., its affiliates and subsidiaries..." If you go to www.bittorrent.com you will see at the bottom of the page that some of BitTorrent's affiliates and subsidiaries include; 20th Century Fox, Comedy Central, Lionsgate Films, MTV Networks, Paramount, Spike, and Warner Bros.

Well said.

And, although, up to this point, I have been qualifying my statements by saying that no evidence has been found proving utorrent to contain a trojan or virus, one very disturbing piece of information has recently come to light.

If you read through the now well known emails by the infamous anti-p2p group mediadefender, you'll notice that one of their anti-p2p tools, namely 'interdiction,' works with all the newer releases of utorrent. As to what interdiction is, specifically, I'm not absolutely certain yet, but the context of the emails leaves me to believe it's some form of jamming system that slows downloads down to a trickle.

[Waza]

i'm sticking with utorrent but not updating just yet til my torrent site accepts it..:)

[jam2k]

All this speculation ... why don't you people try and sniff uTorrent traffic and see if it actually does something evil ?

All I listen is 'Hey my uTorrent is connecting to Bittorrent Inc'. Yes you moron that's because you had automatic updates enabled.

If you show me facts and I'll switch back to Azureus.

[kotekzot]

All this speculation ... why don't you people try and sniff uTorrent traffic and see if it actually does something evil ?

All I listen is 'Hey my uTorrent is connecting to Bittorrent Inc'. Yes you moron that's because you had automatic updates enabled.

If you show me facts and I'll switch back to Azureus.every half-wit paranoid nerd tried that, and they came up with nothing, so all they can do now is speculate.

[robincheema]

utorrent is just fine people and private tackers are just big dum asses can't u guys see that this is a BIG plan made by RIAA or any major anti-p2p organisation to stop P2P... and as far as i know, no-one has yet proven that utorrent gives u viruse or gives ur info to any1 and i am 100% sure that no one has been arreset/prosicuted/had a lawsuit against them for using utorrent...
provide me proof and i will stop using utorrent...

[kotekzot]

using utorrent is hardly a criminal offence. uploading/downloading copyright material is (in some countires). for **aa to get evidence against you they have to connect to you and start downloading copyrighted material.
also, i doubt that any evidence they could've collected if, and i'm speaking hypothetically, utorrent indeed reported user activities to them, wouldn't be accepted by any court, because it would be a breach of privacy (as long as there's nothing about that in utorrent's privacy statement).

[enter8]

every half-wit paranoid nerd tried that, and they came up with nothing, so all they can do now is speculate.

Do you really think that 20th Century Fox and Paramount are going to put money into software that HELPS YOU STEAL THEIR MOVIES?!?! Are you really that stupid?

Mediadefender's anti-P2P software works with utorrent. If you want a smoking gun, there it is.

[isus]

I really love seeing all these "omg utorrent is owned by the devil stop using it now" threads.

OMG WE NEVER LANDED ON THE MOON IT WAS ALL FAKE STOP PLAYING INTO THE PROPAGANDA YUO GUYZ

[Xtripit]

Hey.. you forgot to rep me

I'll give you some help. I USE AZUREUS

[Mr.Shaky]

I'm using uTorrent 1.6.1 and PeerGuardian2. Everytime I fire up uTorrent, addresses for BitTorrent Inc. pop up in PeerGuardian as a blocked site. I don't know why uTorrent is calling home, but I'm suspicious.

[carpefile]

Prolly because under Preferences>Other you haven't unchecked the "allow utorrent to send anonymous version number and random id when checking for newer versions" box.
I think thats been mentioned a few times already in this thread.

[robincheema]

I'm using uTorrent 1.6.1 and PeerGuardian2. Everytime I fire up uTorrent, addresses for BitTorrent Inc. pop up in PeerGuardian as a blocked site. I don't know why uTorrent is calling home, but I'm suspicious.

and u guys say that i am the crazy one...

[Mr.Shaky]

It turns out that I had left on the selection to check for updates, and to send "anonymous" version number when checking for torrents. I unchecked those, and found no more calling home.

I really like uTorrent.