torrentleech,sct,ftn

[corey93]

okay im sry but i had 2 bring it up...everyone has been talking aboutn sct or ftn lately not giving tl as much respect as it use 2 be given im not saying anyone is dissing it but everyone wants a invite 2 ftn or sct..im not any of those sites but i am giving props up to torrentleech..!:icon_rr:

[RexKrugger]

Aye, m8 we agree. TL is definitely right at the top. I read somewhere that interms of content its rated 4.5/5 !!! Thats better than even some of the higher level trackers.

[drtoker]

I recently aquired sct, and to tell you the truth, its the same as TL. In fact, TL sometimes beats sct pretimes, and matches them. When they dont, TL usually has the same stuff up within 4-10 minutes after sct does...

Only real reason to have sct is if you own a seedbox, otherwise its impossible to seed unless you do partial seeding a lot.

[corey93]

wut is a seedbox?

[drtoker]

a seedbox is a virtual server somewhere that has very high bandwidth

[Xtripit]

TL community, layout and staff are crap, but if you are just in it for the torrents and feel safe there then by all means use TL. I hate their VIP treatment. Me uploading so they can make money of torrents... NO THANKS

[RexKrugger]

TL community, layout and staff are crap, but if you are just in it for the torrents and feel safe there then by all means use TL. I hate their VIP treatment. Me uploading so they can make money of torrents... NO THANKS

Could you elaborate on this ?

[drtoker]

TL community, layout and staff are crap, but if you are just in it for the torrents and feel safe there then by all means use TL. I hate their VIP treatment. Me uploading so they can make money of torrents... NO THANKS

Oh yea, and ScT's Pay To Leech is MUCH better... NOT (nice waynes world reference huh?)

what kind of drugs are you on? Most torrent sites make money... Go use IRC if you really want to aviod this kind of thing.
Shit, even most p2p apps have advertising built in. Get over it.

[corey93]

yes honestly...i have 2 say i like torrentleech a little better than i do sct i mean yeh sct is amazing but noone ever leechs so i cant seed fats :)....but thx 4 all of yalls time :D

[uselesscrap]

TL community, layout and staff are crap, but if you are just in it for the torrents and feel safe there then by all means use TL. I hate their VIP treatment. Me uploading so they can make money of torrents... NO THANKS

i agree, the TL staff do suck arse. i had a legit problem and tried to PM a couple of different mods to no avail. they don't even respond...and no, it wasn't in the FAQ.

[corey93]

i agree, the TL staff do suck arse. i had a legit problem and tried to PM a couple of different mods to no avail. they don't even respond...and no, it wasn't in the FAQ.

did u ever use the irc?:icon_rr:

[drtoker]

IRC is always the best way to resolve issues on private trackers. You never know how many people are PMing them on the tracker, or when they will check their pm's. On IRC, you wait for some one who is activly there, and they see your problem at that instant.
I've always had my questions/problems addressed at TL using their IRC.

[capone2323]

I think tl is a great site..Don't have the ones spoken of above but it has almost everything you need plus its fast. It rarely has open signups.closed invites! Good Site!:icon_salu

[Spacefocus]

TL is great; great selection, maxes out my connection, can't ask for more!

[tomazi]

I'm only a member of TL, Demonoid and Blackcats so I can't really compare to sct but I really like the site, in 55 weeks I'm there I can't really remember any problems I had with files, and if there were, a fix was upped.

Even relatively old and unique apps are easily available there and always with enough seeds for a good speed.

[Xtripit]

Oh yea, and ScT's Pay To Leech is MUCH better... NOT (nice waynes world reference huh?)

what kind of drugs are you on? Most torrent sites make money... Go use IRC if you really want to aviod this kind of thing.
Shit, even most p2p apps have advertising built in. Get over it.

TL gives ratio free downloads for people who pay, meaning they don't even have to share back. They also have ads. They have or are planning to sell lots of TL stuff as well to make more money. Just look at the poll if still there. TL is a business that makes money from people sharing copyright material. And I assure you they make lots from people who misunderstood sharing.

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Edit: it was indeed :-)

Torrentleech merchandise!!Cups,mousepads,t-shirts,strings(lol),hats,w/e u can imagine...Interested..?
I would buy one if the price was good :) 31%
Not interested in stuff like that 25%
Hell yeah!! 23%
w000t!!TL stuff!!!ME LOVES YOU BIG TIME! 21%

You can guess which poll option I chose

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ScT yeah you can buy upload, but that does in no way give you ratio free downloads. No ads and the occational ScT stuff sold in low numbers.

FTN has no such thing at all. Cheap servers so they don't need so many donations to keep going. This because the owner does not want any kind of p2l on the site.

Hope that explains how I feel about TL

Oh and what screwed up p2p apps do you use??

Use Azureus 2.5.0.4 or uTorrent 1.6.1 which ZOMG have no ads ????

I can't help wondering if you are staff there. If so please don't disable me for this and force me to only use ScT and FTN lolz

Oh and BTW as for seeding. It's no problem at any of the sites. I don't have fast upspeed and have good buffer on every site.

FTN has many free leech torrents always

ScT has packs that you can just keep in your client partial seeding for ever. Not to mention free leech at times.

TL has fast upload because of the VIPs that in many cases don't know or want to share back, leaving the swarm long before the gave back what they took. Do they ever have free leech? Off course not since that would mean loss of revenue.

[bhanuprasad1981]

guys i need ftn invite can some body help me ?? please :(

[tommygo]

well i am going to try em all someday start at the lower ones and work my way up to higher ones when the op comes along heres what i use now demonoid,ilovetorrents,filelist,bitsoup,tl,digital hive,acetorrents,oink,tvtorrents,bitmetv,rts,hdbit s,zomb.scn,tvtorrentsro,and childbytes and yes i use them all and have a positive ratio on all and each one offers alot of the same but also alot of diferent stuff too so in time i hope to get on and use all trackers......seedbox makes alot of this possible too for me

[isus]

TL gives ratio free downloads for people who pay, meaning they don't even have to share back. They also have ads. They have or are planning to sell lots of TL stuff as well to make more money. Just look at the poll if still there. TL is a business that makes money from people sharing copyright material. And I assure you they make lots from people who misunderstood sharing.

Excuse me, but what are you whining about? Have you ever - EVER - run a site with even 1/100th of the number of users that TorrentLeech has? Bandwidth costs money. Get over it.

FYI: "For supporting us, you get rewarded with VIP status for a specific period. VIP users dont have wait time restrictions or slot resctrictions, don't see any ads, participate on montly drawings and much more. Read all about it by clicking here".

So you either have no idea what you're talking about because you're just another idiot, or I'm going to need to see a screenshot of your username and these ads so that I can verify you are a current VIP and your problem is legitimate.

[Xtripit]

Excuse me, but what are you whining about? Have you ever - EVER - run a site with even 1/100th of the number of users that TorrentLeech has? Bandwidth costs money. Get over it.

FYI: "For supporting us, you get rewarded with VIP status for a specific period. VIP users dont have wait time restrictions or slot resctrictions, don't see any ads, participate on montly drawings and much more. Read all about it by clicking here".

So you either have no idea what you're talking about because you're just another idiot, or I'm going to need to see a screenshot of your username and these ads so that I can verify you are a current VIP and your problem is legitimate.

Problem? I stopped using it so why would I be VIP. I use other sites where people concentrate on sharing and people donate to help the site, and not to get off of ratioduty.

I don't know why you would think I was a VIP there, since I think I pretty much clarified what I think of the VIP treatment there. I am/was a PU there

I get the stuff I want of other sites that don't use your politics towards supporting the site and sharing. As I like to share, I never go below the magic 1.0 ratio. Give what you take and donate if you like the site.. and I don't like TL.

So you are saying you VIP don't get to ignore the ratio. Then there are some very strange replies in your forums about how to save yourself from a bad ratio. They have many times been recommended to buy VIP to get out of it. Also you use waittimes for new users, that give them trouble if not used to private sites with share ratio. I wonder if it may be to up the number of VIP users... I wonder... or do I? For everyones information that "..and much more" means no ratio to worry about until your 3 months are up.

I prefer to keep my username private as I have invited lots of other people there in the past and wouldn't want what I say about your site to have any effect on them.

You guys have many more VIP than needed and should at least get rid of the ads. You give an overflow of invites out making the site unsafe as well. I have seen threads about DMCA letters being sent out to users of your site, which is not strange when looking at sheer usernumbers. There is such a thing as "We are full now!", but I guess that won't happen as it may mean a loss in revenue.

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-bittorrent-and-privacy-200020/page2

And BTW I know lots of people that run massive sites quite differently than TL is run, and do a great job at it.

I don't like pay2leech because it ruins the spirit of sharing and gives antipiracy groups even more reason to after sites. Care to say how much money you have left when serverexpences are taken care of. I bet it's a lot.


P.S. Thanks for the negative rep for speaking the truth.

[Numbat]

I'm new to all this, I hear you guys mention ScT & ftn - could anyone tel the address for these sites - would like to check them out
Cheers

[isus]

Problem? I stopped using it so why would I be VIP. I use other sites where people concentrate on sharing and people donate to help the site, and not to get off of ratioduty.

I don't know why you would think I was a VIP there, since I think I pretty much clarified what I think of the VIP treatment there. I am/was a PU there

I get the stuff I want of other sites that don't use your politics towards supporting the site and sharing. As I like to share, I never go below the magic 1.0 ratio. Give what you take and donate if you like the site.. and I don't like TL.

So you are saying you VIP don't get to ignore the ratio. Then there are some very strange replies in your forums about how to save yourself from a bad ratio. They have many times been recommended to buy VIP to get out of it. Also you use waittimes for new users, that give them trouble if not used to private sites with share ratio. I wonder if it may be to up the number of VIP users... I wonder... or do I? For everyones information that "..and much more" means no ratio to worry about until your 3 months are up.

I prefer to keep my username private as I have invited lots of other people there in the past and wouldn't want what I say about your site to have any effect on them.

You guys have many more VIP than needed and should at least get rid of the ads. You give an overflow of invites out making the site unsafe as well. I have seen threads about DMCA letters being sent out to users of your site, which is not strange when looking at sheer usernumbers. There is such a thing as "We are full now!", but I guess that won't happen as it may mean a loss in revenue.

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-bittorrent-and-privacy-200020/page2

And BTW I know lots of people that run massive sites quite differently than TL is run, and do a great job at it.

I don't like pay2leech because it ruins the spirit of sharing and gives antipiracy groups even more reason to after sites. Care to say how much money you have left when serverexpences are taken care of. I bet it's a lot.


P.S. Thanks for the negative rep for speaking the truth.

You're not speaking the truth, you're being an idiot. That's why you're getting negative rep. Congratulations.

You aren't a VIP, yet you say VIP users are shown ads? Wrong. You also say that a site should be run off donations... That's a great idea, but it fails way more than it works.

You know "lots" of people that run massive sites quite differently than TL? Okay, so how do they support bandwidth and hardware costs? I can look around and find "lots" of people that choose to use ads to support their sites. You're just whining. Also, I think you're full of crap. TL has something like 180,000 users and you want me to believe you know lots of people who run similarly-sized sites?

Pay-to-leech ruins the idea? How? Some people don't have the ability to share a 4.7GB DVD until they are back up to 1.0. You think they should be banned due to their limitations, be it bandwidth, time, or otherwise? Again, you're just whining.

It is interesting you claim how there is no point when TL is full, yet they closed registration weeks ago and no one can get in, even with an invite.

I am also amused at how terrible you think it is that the group of people that run TorrentLeech should make any money - when you sit there with $10-$20 saved in your pocket everytime you didn't have to go buy what you just stole.

Sorry sweetheart, you earn no tears from me - if you could do it better you would have.

PS - it's not my site either, but thanks :)

[tommygo]

those sites would not let you chk them out even if you no the addy ive tried to no avail

[jackahoo]

I have about a dozen different trackers and when a new movie comes out, that is the first place a check. I dont participate in the forums there much so I cant comment on the staff.

[Unstable1]

good thread idea this!!

torrentleech deserves much respect, its a truly great site and one i value my membership to very much.

ive got a 250gb upload buffer there which ive got from seeding (not donating), which is the biggest buffer ive got on any torrent site i use (which is quite a few).

long live torrentleech!

[Xtripit]

You're not speaking the truth, you're being an idiot. That's why you're getting negative rep. Congratulations.

You aren't a VIP, yet you say VIP users are shown ads? Wrong. You also say that a site should be run off donations... That's a great idea, but it fails way more than it works.

You know "lots" of people that run massive sites quite differently than TL? Okay, so how do they support bandwidth and hardware costs? I can look around and find "lots" of people that choose to use ads to support their sites. You're just whining. Also, I think you're full of crap. TL has something like 180,000 users and you want me to believe you know lots of people who run similarly-sized sites?

Pay-to-leech ruins the idea? How? Some people don't have the ability to share a 4.7GB DVD until they are back up to 1.0. You think they should be banned due to their limitations, be it bandwidth, time, or otherwise? Again, you're just whining.

It is interesting you claim how there is no point when TL is full, yet they closed registration weeks ago and no one can get in, even with an invite.

I am also amused at how terrible you think it is that the group of people that run TorrentLeech should make any money - when you sit there with $10-$20 saved in your pocket everytime you didn't have to go buy what you just stole.

Sorry sweetheart, you earn no tears from me - if you could do it better you would have.

PS - it's not my site either, but thanks :)

Nothing in there was a lie and where exactly did I say VIP were shown ads. I said I don't like the VIP treatment opposed to other users and would never even think of donating on a site like that.

I said people are being pushed to become VIP and the pushing isn't even out in the open. Support TorrentLeech my ass. That ad is so annoying, especially when knowing they like more to fill their pockets than make the site better. You can't even block it with adblock since it's embedded in the layout. The 48hours waittimes for new users is something you only see at Pay2Leech sites because it helps giving users bad ratio to begin with.

Community isn't much to speak of there. Another thing seriously setting TL apart from ScT and FTN. The forums at especially FTN are superb. If you didn't notice the OP asked for the differences, so negative rep me all you want. I can still give my opinion if I'm in positive or negative rep... on second thought if you put me in negative rep I'll spend my time here making anti-torrentleech threads since that seems to piss you off so much.

I have to wonder if you are even a member at either ScT or FTN since you are so quick to call me a liar. I am a member at all three places which makes me qualified to say what I think of the three.

Also I do buy things. I don't know where you got the idea that I just download. I buy lots of music. I also rent/go to movies and attend concerts. As for games I don't play them at all.

And whining?? is having a difference in opinion whining?

Yes, I know people that run sites that maybe don't have 180.000 users, but 180.000 users only draws attention. Two kinds of people run sites of the caliber. The ones that think they are untouchable (a certain music site comes to mind) and people in it for the money.

[rick9]

I never seen the elite S*t F8N-hope to some day but i have level 6 0 days and tl is the best hands down. I am sure the top sites are a step up but tl is underrated..

[reloco10]

good thread idea this!!

[bhanuprasad1981]

guys can some one please verify wether sct has 0day pda/symbian packs ???? please i do need to know urgently :(

[reloco10]

guys can some one please verify wether sct has 0day pda/symbian packs ???? please i do need to know urgently :(

Sct no - oink.cd is the best pda/symbian packs

[bhanuprasad1981]

thanks for info but are u sure oink.cd has all latest 0day pda stuff b cos , i heard that only sceneaccess and sct has real 0day pda ,please help me to know as i dont have both accounts ,i only have demonoid

[isus]

Nothing in there was a lie and where exactly did I say VIP were shown ads. I said I don't like the VIP treatment opposed to other users and would never even think of donating on a site like that.
"TL gives ratio free downloads for people who pay, meaning they don't even have to share back. They also have ads."

I will assume for now that you meant this as two separate ideas that I read as one.

I said people are being pushed to become VIP and the pushing isn't even out in the open. Support TorrentLeech my ass. That ad is so annoying, especially when knowing they like more to fill their pockets than make the site better. You can't even block it with adblock since it's embedded in the layout.
How are people being pushed to support it at all? One "Support TorrentLeech" ad is so terribly annoying to you, but you aren't going to be bothered to make your own GreaseMonkey script to remove it, are you? Hell, they even put "<!-- Donate Box -->" tags around the thing! Not to mention, there are no ads in the RSS feed.

The 48hours waittimes for new users is something you only see at Pay2Leech sites because it helps giving users bad ratio to begin with.
There are wait times on many trackers and unless you don't know how to seed, I fail to see how you could get a bad ratio by having to wait 2 days to download something. I have one torrent from TL that was posted on July 23. I began downloading it on July 30. Today, I have a 4.7 ratio on that file. It sounds like your problem is that you expect to go in, download whatever you want, and then seed it as you feel like it. Or, you could take two steps to get around this:
1) Go download the torrent from another tracker while you are still in the "wait time" and begin seeding with no negative impact on your ratio.
2) Pick your first torrents intelligently - pick something that has high demand and will take a while to reach high completion - I find big name DVDs are often good for this.

Community isn't much to speak of there. Another thing seriously setting TL apart from ScT and FTN. The forums at especially FTN are superb
If you want community, go to a place where community is actually the main effort. TorrentLeech is a torrent tracker (tada!) that caters to a large number of users and it sounds like you are more interested in making friends than downloading files.

If you didn't notice the OP asked for the differences, so negative rep me all you want. I can still give my opinion if I'm in positive or negative rep... on second thought if you put me in negative rep I'll spend my time here making anti-torrentleech threads since that seems to piss you off so much.
Boohoohoo negative rep is the end of the world. This is starting to make me believe that you really are more worried about where you can make friends. I gave you one negative rep and this is the second post about it - along with a threat to spam "I hate torrentleech" threads. Make all the anti-torrentleech threads you like - honestly, it sounds like the only one getting angry is you. It'd be funnier if it wasn't so depressing that this is how seriously worried you are about how you are thought of on the net.

I have to wonder if you are even a member at either ScT or FTN since you are so quick to call me a liar. I am a member at all three places which makes me qualified to say what I think of the three.
I'm not a member at ScT or FTN. You, however, are not qualified to say what you think of them mostly because you have ridiculous complaints.

"OMG ADS THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BLOCK OMG THEY ARE MAKING MONEY OFF THEIR SITE OMG THE COMMUNITY ISN'T HOLDING MY HAND BOOHOO"

Also I do buy things. I don't know where you got the idea that I just download. I buy lots of music. I also rent/go to movies and attend concerts. As for games I don't play them at all.
You seem so worried about the fact that TorrentLeech would make money from their site that it seems interesting to me that you would bother paying for anything since that money would end up in someone else's pocket.

And whining?? is having a difference in opinion whining?
Having an opinion that is intelligent and entirely thought out is an opinion. Your post is not an example of this.

Yes, I know people that run sites that maybe don't have 180.000 users, but 180.000 users only draws attention. Two kinds of people run sites of the caliber. The ones that think they are untouchable (a certain music site comes to mind) and people in it for the money.
And here we are again with the "money" complaint.

If you have a serious proposition as to how a large website should support themselves without using ads, donations, paid privileges, or other similar approaches, I would love to hear it. However, if you are about to fall back on the "they should just rely on donations from their users", don't bother. It doesn't work. Sorry. How much money have you ever donated to ScT or FTN? Even if you have donated to them, I'm going to guess that it's a) not enough to cover any serious portion of running the site and b) not regular enough for the money to be a dependable source.

[Xtripit]

I'm not a member at ScT or FTN.

I rest my case :icon_salu

Oh and yes I like the community part as much as the torrents and so do many others, and yes I am gonna start donating to the sites I like the most. Only reason I haven't already is because most sites use Paypal and I don't have a Paypal account yet.

[isus]

I rest my case :icon_salu

Oh and yes I like the community part as much as the torrents and so do many others, and yes I am gonna start donating to the sites I like the most. Only reason I haven't already is because most sites use Paypal and I don't have a Paypal account yet.

Oh oh can I play?

You have no case, I won't be holding my breath on your upcoming donations, and can I guess why you don't have a Paypal account yet?

Might it be... age?

I rest my case :icon_salu

[in2torrenting]

Everyone rates trackers on how hard is to get in. Many at the top are not as good as TL.

[fridash]

tl is one if not the best trackers out there

a level 10 tracker

[Xtripit]

Oh oh can I play?

You have no case, I won't be holding my breath on your upcoming donations, and can I guess why you don't have a Paypal account yet?

Might it be... age?

I rest my case :icon_salu

I might not be age. I'm not some kid and I prefer VISA

sorry for going totally off topic, but discussing which sites are better with someone who doesn't even have the sites in question just seems.. weird.

[terminal]

I find TL to be an excellent tracker in many ways: number of torrents, speed, easy to seed, etc. I haven't interacted a lot in the forums/staff so I can't comment on that too, but it's nice to have an easy to get tracker with level 9.

I don't want to join in the war that's going on here because I'm not a member at ScT or FTN and I can't make an objective comparison, but I think there's a reason for consider both of them to be at level 10 and TL at 9.

[Unstable1]

I rest my case :icon_salu

Oh and yes I like the community part as much as the torrents and so do many others, and yes I am gonna start donating to the sites I like the most. Only reason I haven't already is because most sites use Paypal and I don't have a Paypal account yet.

all you've managed to do is demonstrate you have no case.

one doesnt need to be a member of sct to see how ridiculous your argument is!

[fazzy07]

TL is one of the best i think .. lot of torrents per day .. lot of seeders .. better then some other highly rated trackers

[Xtripit]

Active torrents:

ScT 11219 and it is hard to seed until you get a buffer. Great community as well.

FTN 4716 but with lots more packs than both ScT and TL. Not to mention all packs are free leech. and also one of the most active and best communities I know. Yes, my favorite of the 3 by far. There is no way to get in ratio trouble even though it has less leechers. Lets not forget anything upped more than a few hours after pre is made free leech as well. FTN <3

TL 5692

[enter8]

Xtripit, thanks for those numbers. For those of us working towards more exclusive trackers like ScT and FTN, it's good to get an idea of how big they are and what kind of files they offer.

[isus]

sorry for going totally off topic, but discussing which sites are better with someone who doesn't even have the sites in question just seems.. weird.

I was never discussing which site was better. I was merely dissecting the bullshit you've been posting about TL.

Active torrents:

ScT 11219 and it is hard to seed until you get a buffer. Great community as well.

FTN 4716 but with lots more packs than both ScT and TL. Not to mention all packs are free leech. and also one of the most active and best communities I know. Yes, my favorite of the 3 by far. There is no way to get in ratio trouble even though it has less leechers. Lets not forget anything upped more than a few hours after pre is made free leech as well. FTN <3

TL 5692

So now it's the number of active torrents that make a tracker good? Pirate Bay must be the best ever!

I might not be age. I'm not some kid and I prefer VISA

If you say so, chief. Let's check the replay!

I give you negative rep and you go apeshit about it and threaten to spam hate threads:

on second thought if you put me in negative rep I'll spend my time here making anti-torrentleech threads since that seems to piss you off so much.

If you seriously want people to believe you aren't some random 13 year old, you have to start acting like a grown up.

Anyway. Thanks for playing - I'm done with you.

[Xtripit]

FTN ScT and TL are 0-day trackers, Pirate bay is not.

Speed: ScT>FTN>TL
Pre: FTN>ScT>TL
Content: (well they are all 0-day but) ScT>=FTN>TL
Community: FTN>ScT>TL
Number of leechers TL>ScT>FTN (because of higher memberbase)
Easiest to keep ratio: FTN>TL>ScT (but ScT does free leech at times)
Safest: FTN>ScT>TL
P2L: TL>ScT (FTN can never go in this category)

...and done with you too

Xtripit, thanks for those numbers. For those of us working towards more exclusive trackers like ScT and FTN, it's good to get an idea of how big they are and what kind of files they offer.

Don't try trading for one. That is just about the best advice I can give you. Not only is it a bad thing to start with, but also odds are you will get disabled faster than you can say "Yeah, I got...".

[moquilok]

While TL has great content, pretty good pre-times, and above average speeds, the only reason that I no longer use my account there is due to safety. I don't want anyone subpoenaing my ISP for my information because of copyright infringement. Although this is possible when using any tracker, private or otherwise, to download illegal content, I believe the likelihood is less when using smaller, rarer private trackers.

[enter8]

Moquilok, show me ONE person that has gotten a copyright infringement letter from DLing on TL. ONE. I can direct you to countless people that have gotten them off Demonoid. You seem to have this compulsion to place TL at the same level as Demonoid when it comes to safety. It isn't. And as long as TL members are discerning as to who they give their invites to ;) it will stay that way.

[enter8]

So now it's the number of active torrents that make a tracker good? Pirate Bay must be the best ever!

Safest: FTN>ScT>TL

Safest: FTN>ScT>TL>Oink>>>>>Demonoid>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pirate Bay

[Xtripit]

Safest: FTN (together with some other smaller safe trackers)>ScT>Other smaller trackers>Oink (no DMCA letters)>TL>>>>>Demonoid>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pirate Bay

Fixed ;) Although we went away from that 0-day thing there.

In one of my previous post I gave a link to DMCA at TL, although not confirmed try reading the first page as well.

[moquilok]

Moquilok, show me ONE person that has gotten a copyright infringement letter from DLing on TL. ONE. I can direct you to countless people that have gotten them off Demonoid. You seem to have this compulsion to place TL at the same level as Demonoid when it comes to safety. It isn't. And as long as TL members are discerning as to who they give their invites to ;) it will stay that way.

Here's 2 examples directly from TL's forums:

http://www.torrentleech.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28614

http://www.torrentleech.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27768

This is why I no longer use TL for downloads.

[enter8]

Shit shit shit shit...

I still contend that it's safer than Demonoid, but... this means I'm going to have to curtail my TL activity substantially.

Shit

[moquilok]

There are a bunch of 0-day general trackers that I believe are safer than TL, so it shouldn't be too difficult to find an alternative.

[enter8]

Finding an alternative is a piece of cake... obtaining an invite on the other hand...

[Akamajor]

torrent leech...........rocks