longhorn alpha ?

[matt merch]

i d/l this yesterday amd was wondering if anyone else has installed this and how buggy it is ?

[-glitch-]

Where did you get it?

[Bodhisattva/GoldenSilence]

You should know that Longhorn has been discontinued. . . MS chose to pursue another XP server platform called "Blackcomb" instead. But, feel free to play with the alpha. :tilted

[TFoS_Fan]

Yeah, man I need someone to direct me to were I can get this alpha. Also what is this other one that Microsoft is working on like?.

P.s cool avatars -glich- and GoldenSilence

:shy

[matt merch]

i got it on kazaa lol no only kidding its all over irc

[«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»]

Originally posted by Bodhisattva/GoldenSilence
You should know that Longhorn has been discontinued. . . MS chose to pursue another XP server platform called "Blackcomb" instead. But, feel free to play with the alpha. :tilted

where did the you get that information from?

[matt merch]

http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/longhorn_alpha.asp

theres a link for a review

[matt merch]

i thought blackcomb was the next version of longhorn ie just a later version

[«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»]

Originally posted by matt merch
http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/longhorn_alpha.asp

theres a link for a review


thnx for the link, but i meant blackcomb.

[matt merch]

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,106934,00.asp

article on blackcomb and longhorn

[«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»]

That's a very interesting article thnx for the help and link!

I opened a thread earlier about the OS being leaked.

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=4389

[Bodhisattva/GoldenSilence]

where did the you get that information from?

Sorry. . . guess I wasn't clear enough. MS has downgraded Longhorn from a server+desktop OS into a strictly desktop OS, so when I said that it was discontinued I meant only the server side of things. Also, Blackcomb is the current name for the next Windows server-specific OS system.

Frankly, they both worry the hell out of me, since they are based on the new Palladium system architecture, which could put a serious hurt on p2p.

[12345678910]

Originally posted by Bodhisattva/GoldenSilence


Sorry. . . guess I wasn't clear enough. MS has downgraded Longhorn from a server+desktop OS into a strictly desktop OS, so when I said that it was discontinued I meant only the server side of things. Also, Blackcomb is the current name for the next Windows server-specific OS system.

Frankly, they both worry the hell out of me, since they are based on the new Palladium system architecture, which could put a serious hurt on p2p.

How Is That?

[phalkon30]

http://xbetas.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=750 for an faq of longhorn

you can also do a simple search for "longhorn" (without quotes) at www.xbetas.com

they have an extensive information area under the search for longhorn

here is an faq for palladium, it provides all the answers i think you could ever want on the topic
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

[wonderboy2005]

screw that... theres no way peeps will agree to this f***ed up idea.(pallidum of whatever) its basiclly turning your pc into a counsole in a sense, as it will only run 'signed' programs, or verified stuff. if this is actually implimented, i see a HUGE shift to linux in the near future. G** D*** microsoft.... argh

[Bodhisattva/GoldenSilence]

12345678910 said. . .

How Is That?

Palladium is a completely new system architecture which stresses individual PC security, enabling desktop computers to have unique identification so that any interaction between users is 100% verified and trustworthy. Basically, Palladium will make sure that whomever you choose to connect with via your computer is actually that person, rather than an imposter or hacker.

Unfortunately, Palladium also provides MS with a clear means to enforce it's DRM (digital rights management) technology, meaning that your OS will detect and disable any unauthorized software that tries to run on your system. In other words, pirated music, movies, and software will get shut down automatically.

For more in-depth information on the potentially p2p-devastating effects of Palladium, check out the link that phalkon30 so kindly posted previously.

[CCSDUDE]

I'm off to buy the FASTEST AMD CPU I can get my hands on....a good mobo.....some nice BIG freakin HD's and some other crap......

Make up maybe 2 or 3 top of the line systems....and wait this shit out. I'm not gonna EVER use anything like that.....Linux and good old WinME for me......HAHAHAHA Who's laughing now people?! "WinME is unstable" well....make it stable! Cuz you ain't gonna want any of that new crap that puts you on lock down......



Later

[phalkon30]

or i could just keep using my pirated version of xp pro that never needs to be registered and can still be updated (yes, even the "hacker proof" SP1) via windows update

why step down to such a lowley operating system as ME

(before we get into another long discussion, if you like ME, stick with it, im not forcing you, just giving you a hard time)

[«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»]

Originally posted by wonderboy2005
i see a HUGE shift to linux in the near future. G** D*** microsoft.... argh

does linux run all the programs windows can run?

I don't think that ppl will rush to stores and get linux when the palladium technology comes out. I know I won't I'd rather wait for something to patch it or something like that. I'm a windows fan not a linux or any other OS. Windows is more well rounded and easier to use. Plus most programs are built to run on windows.

btw, isn't it possible that ppl can't encode a file and tell palladium technology thingy that, the file is a valid file and that it can be allowed to run? that is ofcourse future stuff and for ppl that are familiar with the technology.

But if there is a will, there is always way!

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by phalkon30
or i could just keep using my pirated version of xp pro that never needs to be registered and can still be updated (yes, even the "hacker proof" SP1) via windows update

why step down to such a lowley operating system as ME

(before we get into another long discussion, if you like ME, stick with it, im not forcing you, just giving you a hard time)


Hmmm....did you read every bit of the link YOU posted? Cuz it's saying WMP 9 can get autoupdates that WILL lock you outta certain stuff (and you can't stop 'em unless you block WMP which kinda keeps you from watching streaming WMV crap....most don't care but it's still an annoyance). So XP is closer to this new lock down crap then ME is....I'll stick with 2k/Me and anything below. Like XP all you want, I'm not badmouthing you. I'm pretty much just going by what you posted. ME is the last MS OS that's almost totally controlled by the user not by mircosuck. XP Isn't, and while I do like ME and have tweaked it to my liking I didn't post that with the intent you think I posted it with. Sooo XP fans....enjoy XP it's your choice. But atleast do the world a favor and download/*gulp* buy... a copy of ME or 98 or something that's not under any MS power - like Linux. LOL

Soooooo dude either wise up or get ready to be MS's bitch......cuz it's gonna happen.

BTW: Buy the newest system you can afford NOW.....so you don't get stuck with some shitty Fritz controlled crap. Hmmm...now I wonder about P4's mobo's......

Later

[phalkon30]

exactly

windows xp was supposed to be the downfall of pirated MS software

guess what

they failed, i even did the SP1 (can i brag anymore about this?)

the point is, i dont think this will ever get to the point where pirating stops, the average user will not be able to do it, but the more advanced user will find a way, its just the nature of things


(hmm, didnt see your post ccsdude, maybe i should read that article i posted, i just sorta skimmed the first couple lines, i could have just screwed myself, oh well)

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by phalkon30
exactly

windows xp was supposed to be the downfall of pirated MS software

guess what

they failed, i even did the SP1 (can i brag anymore about this?)

the point is, i dont think this will ever get to the point where pirating stops, the average user will not be able to do it, but the more advanced user will find a way, its just the nature of things


Hmm.....when this new 'lockdown' shit comes along....you crack it. I'd like to see that kiddo. Brag all you want about your 'cracked' XP SP1....which you obviously didn't crack yourself. But don't put it past good 'ol Bill to actually try a rash move like this. He tried with ME by suping up WMP's DRM crap then did it again in XP and now he's learned that just doing up parts with DRM won't help! So he'll take the plunge and drop tons of cash on a totally new system. And you gotta remember this....if the whole OS is filled with DRM crap no hacker/cracker in there right mind will take the time to get it all worked out. They'll just whip up quick fixes that'll be buggy as hell cuz they wanna act like they have balls by releasing it first. LOL

So if/when this crap does make headway into the open market.....you better have a copy of an old OS or switch right over to Linux.


«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»: Wine runs some windows programs but it's still not 'there' yet.....stick with ME bro we'll be the dying breed that stands our ground down the line. When all those 'lockdown' users are cursing MS we'll be swapping files with the smart ones who stuck to XP/Me/98/2k/NT. An the techies who must upgrade every other week will be kicking themselves when there new Fritz powered system lock's them out.


Later

[phalkon30]

Originally posted by CCSDUDE



An the techies who must upgrade every other week will be kicking themselves when there new Fritz powered system lock's them out.

soon i wont be able to sit down im sure

and in no way am i suggesting i cracked sp1, i dont know that much about the software part, just the hardware

i can allways reload as many times as i want, xp was a great os before WMP 9 and SP1, i think i can make it that way again

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by phalkon30


soon i wont be able to sit down im sure

and in no way am i suggesting i cracked sp1, i dont know that much about the software part, just the hardware

i can allways reload as many times as i want, xp was a great os before WMP 9 and SP1, i think i can make it that way again

Hmm....so whatdaya know about 'hardware'? Do tell.....

As for XP....protect your copies with your life.....hell make as many copies as you can!


Later

[wonderboy2005]

yeah, linux cant run all the programs out there 'alone', it needs some form of emulation. one form would be WINE, but like ccsdude said, its not great yet. then there is lindows. supposedly, it will be 100% compatible with windows. ill believe it when i see it. but anyways, im sticking with XP until the cows come home. i dont c why not.... its reliable, fast, and easy to use. no COMPLETE drm, and i didnt/wont install wm9, cuz i hate wmp altogether. the only way ill uprgrade will be if i can EASILY get file sharing apps working on it. it has to be easy, because if it isnt, then the masses wont do it, and filesharing will come to a screeching hault on those platforms.

[phalkon30]

*senses the room gets quiet...*

hardware...well...you see.....thats a funny story....lol, ive been building computers for quite a while and attempt to keep up with whatever i can on new stuff, but again, i didnt mean to brag like i know everything (i think this is a subtle hint to stop being so cocky....compared to the rest of my geek friends, im a techie god, but after reading some posts here, im almost at a noobie level)

*starts to cry*

and with xp....if i lose one of my several copies, i allways have the 30 or so people i "borrowed" it to for a backup

[«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»]

i heard about that hardware lockdown shit, when's it coming out? can i still wait till december b 4 i buy my mobo?

ps i don't really remember the whole deal, is it just the mobo that is gonna get locked or is it more?

[phalkon30]

lets say the hardware lockdown stuff is given final approval and a working design is given to manufacturers, these systems would most likely be only on elite items, or very new items, or they will have trade offs, for example, you want the latest motherboard with a feature you cant live without, but its only offered on protected boards...

there will be places that have old boards in stock, heck, i can still get a TNT2 vid card, and they dont even make them anymore (at least not that ive seen)

[Ghost 23]

Does anyone know of anywhere to dled longhorn and/or blackhorn to try them out or are there no beta version out as of yet.

[phalkon30]

Originally posted by phalkon30
http://xbetas.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=750 for an faq of longhorn

you can also do a simple search for "longhorn" (without quotes) at www.xbetas.com

they have an extensive information area under the search for longhorn

here is an faq for palladium, it provides all the answers i think you could ever want on the topic
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

it should be available on irc, xbetas has a link to it and more info about it, check it out