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Lord_of_the_Dense
June 9th, 2007, 02:12 PM
LONDON - The Church of England accused Sony Corp. on Saturday of using an English cathedral as the backdrop to a violent computer game and said it should be withdrawn from shop shelves.

The church said Sony did not ask for permission to use Manchester cathedral and demanded an apology.

The popular new PlayStation 3 game, "Resistance: Fall of Man," shows a virtual shootout between rival gunmen with hundreds of people killed inside the cathedral. Church officials described Sony's alleged use of the building as "sick" and sacrilegious.

Read entire story here (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070609/ap_on_hi_te/church_of_england_sony_3;_ylt=AsTC_N1VH4Rnrh2ZgNRe 2McE1vAI).

CCSDUDE
June 9th, 2007, 04:41 PM
perhaps the church of england hasn't noticed all the freakin' cameras everywhere...

public is just that and anyone who wishes to use public buildings in their games has every right to do so

the state has already used public way as a means to slap a camera on every street corner and as such anyone with a camera has a right to capture images just the same

on with the chruchy video game blood bath! lol

Mr. T
June 9th, 2007, 05:45 PM
By the title of the game I'm guessing zombies and you can't have a zombie/vampire movie/game without a standoff in a church.

mr. hisser
June 9th, 2007, 06:43 PM
They need to stop being fucking whiners and start worrying about REAL church issues. Like which alterboy the elders are groping, or how they can budget a little extra money for the minister's coke habit, or whether archbishop is really cooperating with the "communist-era" secret police. (All actual current scandals in one "organized" church or another, by the way.)

DwarfBaby
June 9th, 2007, 08:27 PM
By the title of the game I'm guessing zombies and you can't have a zombie/vampire movie/game without a standoff in a church.

I never thought of it that way before, but I think your right.

Lord_of_the_Dense
June 10th, 2007, 09:45 AM
They need to stop being fucking whiners and start worrying about REAL church issues. Like which alterboy the elders are groping, or how they can budget a little extra money for the minister's coke habit, or whether archbishop is really cooperating with the "communist-era" secret police. (All actual current scandals in one "organized" church or another, by the way.)

Now switch out the zombies for ministers and archbishops and you have a game that's both fun and useful.

silentscream
June 10th, 2007, 03:58 PM
Now switch out the zombies for ministers and archbishops and you have a game that's both fun and useful.
pretty good idea for a game lol "aethiest shooter","wipe out all the religions, from archbishops to zulu healers" or something like that lol

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Mr. T
June 10th, 2007, 05:04 PM
Your anti-Zulu healer stance has been apparent for some time now.

CCSDUDE
June 10th, 2007, 06:08 PM
pretty good idea for a game lol "aethiest shooter","wipe out all the religions, from archbishops to zulu healers" or something like that lol

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it's a perfect counter to that poorly coded 'left behind' game

it's basically a war game with chirstians and non-believers

your mission should you choose to install such shoddy shit on your system is to convert or kill all the non-believers

kinda funny how these assholes are all for games like that while a game with no religious crap being pushed is being targeted for simply using the external scene of a church

can't shoot zombies or demons but it's all good to slay non-believers cuz hey their all goin' to hell anyway!

Lord_of_the_Dense
June 10th, 2007, 08:58 PM
pretty good idea for a game lol "aethiest shooter","wipe out all the religions, from archbishops to zulu healers" or something like that lol

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See this is the funny part. I was responding to a post and all of a sudden atheists get brought up. I am going to assume, because I forget, that "Mr." Hisser is a theist. So the suggestion, from a believer is that we should tackle the issues with those that spread and represent the faith.

My comment was merely a combination of responding to both T and Hisser's posts, and to be honest, had no atheistic influence at all.

Silentscream, has anyone ever made you aware that you tend to stir the pot?

What kind of "sick" thread have I created?

silentscream
June 11th, 2007, 03:10 AM
See this is the funny part. I was responding to a post and all of a sudden atheists get brought up. I am going to assume, because I forget, that "Mr." Hisser is a theist. So the suggestion, from a believer is that we should tackle the issues with those that spread and represent the faith.

My comment was merely a combination of responding to both T and Hisser's posts, and to be honest, had no atheistic influence at all.

Silentscream, has anyone ever made you aware that you tend to stir the pot?

What kind of "sick" thread have I created?
lol ure sarcasm and wit is everpresent :)

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kippies
June 12th, 2007, 12:54 PM
perhaps the church of england hasn't noticed all the freakin' cameras everywhere...

public is just that and anyone who wishes to use public buildings in their games has every right to do so

the state has already used public way as a means to slap a camera on every street corner and as such anyone with a camera has a right to capture images just the same

on with the chruchy video game blood bath! lol

I agree wholehearedly with your sentiment

However a cathedral is NOT a public building it is private property of the church. As such many now ban photography, the church has woken up to the fact that these historic buildings are a marketable asset.

As such images , especially of the interior, are the intellectual property of the church

Sony in their press statement have stated they "believe" they have sought the appropriate permissions..however they quite clearly have not sought the churches authority to use theyre intellectual property.

Is this a defence? when I upload a sony cd to the net and am prosecuted for infridgment of THEYRE intellectual property can I state I beleive I have sought the appropriate permissions- I asked my cat and he said it was cushty... :icon_pira

Sony should be prosecuted for infridgement, the fine should be multiplied by the amount of copies of fall of man sold, same way they hound uploaders....

Its never gonna happen (reference the root kit epsiode) but id kinda enjoy the coverage...

CCSDUDE
June 12th, 2007, 01:42 PM
^ thats the kicker here dude

they're tax exempt and open to the public therefore anyone viewing the outside or inside have total freedom to copy it in any manner they see fit

I ain't got much to go on with reguard to UK law but I doubt they're insane enough to pretend a tax free public welcoming building has any right to stop people from copying it's likeness

hell even if they could claim the guts of said building were copyrighted the outside is still public domian so sony is well within it's rights to parody it in any game they wish

lol I'm rooting (pun totally intended) for sony and I hope they shove their rights in the face of these silly religous bastards by reusing the textures/3d models and anything else related to it in every sadistic god hating game they can

kippies
June 12th, 2007, 01:55 PM
:icon_salu LOL id buy a game where you slaughter the clergy for sure.. im no lover of the church

just pointing out that as the status quo stands in the UK if the internal imagery IS photo realistic and accurate sony ARE infringing someone elses intellectual property- this is NOT a public building its a building the public have access to for a fee - the church have succesfully had images of the interiors of theyre properties removed from websites, postcards etc...

Id like to see them (sony) hoisted by theyre own petard... I fully accept its not going to happen but I can dream...

:icon_thum

enter8
July 27th, 2007, 02:30 AM
when I upload a sony cd to the net and am prosecuted for infridgment of THEYRE intellectual property can I state I beleive I have sought the appropriate permissions- I asked my cat and he said it was cushty... :icon_pira

That's wild, my goldfish said the exact same thing!!!

Hmmm... do you think your cat and my goldfish know each other? Maybe they text or something. A T1 did show up in my fish tank a few weeks ago and my goldfish spends a LOT of time hiding out in the castle.

I wonder...

xguju
September 26th, 2007, 08:42 AM
it is just a game, and its a part of a background. I am guaranteed sure that Sony did not mean the Catholic church approved of the game. Seriously!