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irish66
May 25th, 2007, 07:36 AM
I guess the heading says it all.

MoonMan
May 25th, 2007, 08:04 AM
Good internet connection? Multiple sources from which to download from? Files are on fast, reliable servers?

Is there anything specific you are wondering about it?

mascott
May 25th, 2007, 08:17 AM
On your next bit torrent download, take a look at the Seeds & Peers amount. The Seeds are seeding and the peers or leeches are probably uploading as well. That's an awful lot of sources for your client to draw from and some trackers are better than others.

irish66
May 25th, 2007, 05:41 PM
Thank you for replies.
But aren't Torrents ie getting files from somewhere like Demonoid, and Newsgroups ie getting files from usenet two completly different methods of downloading.
Actually Torrents are my least favourite method of getting stuff. You have to depend on seeders.
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vishal_01
May 25th, 2007, 05:51 PM
torrents will be fast if ur on a good tracker e.g sct or ftn

irish66
May 26th, 2007, 06:02 AM
What is a tracker.
Is Demonoid a tracker?
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mascott
May 26th, 2007, 08:16 AM
Irish66 - Think of Trackers like traffic cops, they just direct the traffic that emanates from one source and goes to another. That same tracker can also direct and record the traffic from the new source (when you see you client uploading). I know of no tracker that has any 'copyrighted material' on it.

Mels_Smileys45
May 26th, 2007, 08:45 AM
Why are people talking about torrents? This thread is about usenet!

mascott
May 26th, 2007, 09:00 AM
Mels_Smiley45 - The Forum may have a title that reads Usenet, however many readers go beyond the title and read the thread along with specific questions which concern torrents. Then they try to help the person.

Mels_Smileys45
May 26th, 2007, 03:59 PM
Mels_Smiley45 - The Forum may have a title that reads Usenet, however many readers go beyond the title and read the thread along with specific questions which concern torrents. Then they try to help the person.

No, you started your own topic about what you wanted to talk about in the wrong forum . You seem to think that filesharing means bittorrent and thats not what the poster was asking about.

This is the usenet forum and you brought up that he should check seeds, there are no seeds as such. Admit you screwed up and did not pay attention to what this person was asking! lol Your answer made no sense at all. You only confused the guy by going off topic. Its good to try to help but you provided the wrong answer. :icon_scra

napho
May 26th, 2007, 04:10 PM
Invasion of the BitTorrent groupies. Now all we need is Firefox fans telling us how it rox0rs. :drunken_s

irish66
May 26th, 2007, 04:12 PM
thanks for explanation.
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irish66
May 27th, 2007, 09:26 AM
ah! so.
Right, The very helpful person was referring to Torrent trackers, wheras I was asking questions about newsgroups.
To misquote the opening of an old tv comedy series "Confused? you will be after reading this thread" :)
Who knows what comedy series I am referring to?
Answers on a postcard please to
The Bishop Of Durham
Texas
Hong Kong
Switzerland.

mascott
May 27th, 2007, 09:56 AM
OK! I was in error. Sorry, some of you got offended, however, why didn't you help the gentleman?

irish66
May 27th, 2007, 04:51 PM
Well i didn't get offended. Anyway someone mentioned fast servers, so i guess that's why newsgroups are so fast.
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Oimer
May 30th, 2007, 08:59 AM
Yeah, fast servers do the trick.

Shadowtester
May 31st, 2007, 10:55 AM
Yea a good Usenet provider can make all the difference I can max out my internet connection very easy and pretty much at will Usenet rocks.

DwarfBaby
May 31st, 2007, 12:14 PM
Anyways, to answer the original question. Powerful tier 1 servers (like Giganews) sit directly on redundant multi-gigabit internet backbones making the only limitation your connection not theirs.

I have an 8 meg Comcast connection so I download files at a full 8 megs.
My friend in Seattle has a 16 meg connection so he gets 16 meg downloads.

Unlike filesharing networks, all Usenet files sit directly on these powerful servers therefore you will always download at maximum connection speed regardless of what you are downloading or how popular the file is.

I hope this helps.

Shadowtester
May 31st, 2007, 02:30 PM
Anyways, to answer the original question. Powerful tier 1 servers (like Giganews) sit directly on redundant multi-gigabit internet backbones making the only limitation your connection not theirs.

I have an 8 meg Comcast connection so I download files at a full 8 megs.
My friend in Seattle has a 16 meg connection so he gets 16 meg downloads.

Unlike filesharing networks, all Usenet files sit directly on these powerful servers therefore you will always download at maximum connection speed regardless of what you are downloading or how popular the file is.

I hope this helps.

I would really help if you could get my crappy sbc/yahoo dsl which they claim to be up to 6 mbit but only averages around 1.6mbit to actually work at the providers claimed speed :icon_thum I know you have no control over that and why not use a different provider that is because that is the better choice in my area I guess it sucks to be me :icon_puke

DwarfBaby
May 31st, 2007, 03:54 PM
I know the feeling

About 5 years ago I had DSL which they claimed "Up to" 1.5 megs. The connection never approached those numbers and during heavy traffic hours was only slightly better then dial-up.

While the service did improve I was still more then happy to jump ship once Comcast came to my area. They say my connection is 8 megs and they mean it.

Shadowtester
May 31st, 2007, 08:49 PM
Well when my 1 year contract with yahoo expires I think I will try insightbb and see what kind of speed they have in my area might not be as cheap but also may not be as slow either.

mandms
August 11th, 2007, 11:33 PM
I'd say that most of the time usenet gets high download speeds and/or faster than bittorrent speeds because there are less jumps between the user and the server especially if an individuals connection to usenet is provided by their ISP.

rstefaniak@yahoo.co.uk
August 12th, 2007, 12:35 AM
hi every one i am just lerning all of this have not got much of a clue what are saying but i am sure i will learn

irish66
August 12th, 2007, 12:53 AM
Thanks for all the replies. My own isp provider doesn't give acess to binary newsgroups.
I use giganews.
Lately though i decided to give rapidshare preuim a go. I'm now getting just as fast speeds through them.

asymmetric
September 11th, 2007, 06:05 AM
I'd say that most of the time usenet gets high download speeds and/or faster than bittorrent speeds because there are less jumps between the user and the server especially if an individuals connection to usenet is provided by their ISP.

actually there are no servers in bittorrent involved in the transfer (excluding trackers, of course); and your connection to usenet is always direct, both if provided by your isp and with paid services (where direct is not to be taken literally, of course ;) )

xguju
September 26th, 2007, 08:37 AM
i wish someone would teach me, i want a usenet system on my computer, but there are no thorough guides for it.

sethhandler
September 29th, 2007, 01:54 PM
asymmetric lines are all that's available in the US :(

Miniver
September 29th, 2007, 02:47 PM
i wish someone would teach me, i want a usenet system on my computer, but there are no thorough guides for it.

Check the guide in my sig.

Zombieman123
September 30th, 2007, 05:28 PM
I dunno, I just don't think I should pay for something like usenet when I can can easily get the same file from bittorrent