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[«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»]

I would like to get some help with my computer.


First Topic: WindowsME Shut Down


I have been having some problems recently with my WindowsME it dows not shutdown properly.

When i do a shut down Start>Shut Down>OK everything disappears except the background is still there and then after 10mins of waiting I just manual shut it down.

Also

Sometime everything disappears even the background is gone and a blank screen is left, then after 10mins of waiting I just manual shut it down.

I really wanna know what I should do, it's not the first time I have encountered something like this but the solution was to reformat. This time I don't want to reformat.

Any help will be appreciated!


Second Topic: Upgrading Motherboard/CPU


I thought it be nice to get some help on upgrading my computer since i really want to do it myself but *shamefully* i don't know how *sniff, sniff*

Can some one tell me what I should do where I should go? For getting an upgrade. I.E. if I want to upgrade to a P4 2.4ghz CPU do I have to change the motherboard the graphics card and everything else? If so what should it be?



If i was unclear on any topic plz tell me and I'll explain further.


Thanx in advance!
:wings :wings :wings :wings

[CCSDUDE]

1st question
Try hitting ctrl+alt+del before you shut down and see what's running/not responding if it's something that auto starts....go Start > Run > type in "Msconfig" without the quotes then go to the start up tab and untick the program that's giving your problems. That sloved it for me....also for some reason a good defrag clears up most problems that stop you from shutting down (IDK why so don't ask LOL)


As for the upgrade

What are your specs right now? It may be cheaper to totally build a brand spankin new system case and all then it would to just install a new mobo that may or may not work right ect.... (less hassle is alot better, right?)
As for the video card/hd's/ sound card I'm sure it'll work with any new mobo you get. Unless you get a mobo without and AGP slot and your video card is....AGP LOL


If ya don't know what to pick for your system then go to one of those build your own PC sites pick stuff you like 'build' it on there site then shop around for parts.


Hope this helps....


Peace all, Later

[The Hunter]

:mellow Just guessing, but Krell would want to know, the currant cpu, motherboard, and power supply .The cpu will give us the connection, IE 370. If that is known, it will help on the upgrades. Good luck. Also 98se is a lot better than me from what I have seen. Others might have had better results.

[Sephiroth]

1. defrag as mentioned will solve most problems like this. Using a NT based OX like win2k or xp would also be a good idea.

2. Doing a p4 system your better off building a new one.. You would probably have to get a new case/power supply, motherboard, the CPU, and all the proper cooling(heatsink, casefans) if those areny included. If you dunno how to build a system then dont if you make a mistake it can get pretty costly.

[phalkon30]

I think to fix the shut down error the only way would be to get rid of windows ME!

lol

have you tried doing windows update? i know with 98 there were a few updates to fix shut down problems, but most likely your registry got dinged

if you do decide to reformat, wait till after you update your computer parts, the upgrade process usually works better if you only have 1 set of drivers in the registry

Seriously think about using xp, its similar to ME, but is much more stable and is slightly faster from what ive seen, either that or take a step back to 98SE

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by phalkon30
I think to fix the shut down error the only way would be to get rid of windows ME!

lol

have you tried doing windows update? i know with 98 there were a few updates to fix shut down problems, but most likely your registry got dinged

if you do decide to reformat, wait till after you update your computer parts, the upgrade process usually works better if you only have 1 set of drivers in the registry

Seriously think about using xp, its similar to ME, but is much more stable and is slightly faster from what ive seen, either that or take a step back to 98SE


Windows ME is better then 98....and XP

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=3608&perpage=15&highlight=WinME&pagenumber=2

I'm sick of all this Windows XP is great crap! It's shitty compared to older OS's and MS is just gonna get worse in it's lock down tactics.....

Go use ME and learn how to tweak it and it'll kick XP's ass hands down.
Or go use Linux.....that beats all MS OS crap hands down - but it's not for the noob's.....

Oh yeah, windows update causes more trouble then it's worth....block any window's crap from connecting to the net and shut off autoupdate....ugh


Peace all, Later

[ryan2_2]

Originally posted by phalkon30
Seriously think about using xp, its similar to ME, but is much more stable and is slightly faster from what ive seen, either that or take a step back to 98SE

agree. but i would go toward xp because 98SE is becoming obsolete. plus xp would be better in the long run.

Originally posted CCSDUDE
Windows ME is better then 98....and XP

no offence but ME is unstable. it removed some dos extensions which caused a whole lot of bugs. Win 98SE is the last stable version of the dos based OS.

[Sephiroth]

Windows Xp is a great operating system. If people dont perfer some parts to it then with sp1 they can turn it off and use program x or tweak it to their liking. Its alot more stable than Windows me and if you have a newer system then you will be so much better off using it.. Older is not better especially when talking about computers.

[phalkon30]

CCSDUDE, this is the first time i strongly disagree with you, ME was not all that stable, yes there were improvements over 98SE, but i would still prefer 98 over ME, ME was never really intended to be an OS, but 98 needed some major overhauling, so just to keep up a little bit ME was released

what do you so strongly have against XP? yes it is a system hog, but other than that i have been loving it

one more point, MS has decided that every 5 years it will discontinue software, so guess what, sometime in 2003 98 first edition will no longer be able to be updated, its not worth it to MS to update 5 yr old software

[ryan2_2]

Originally posted by Sephiroth
Windows Xp is a great operating system. If people dont perfer some parts to it then with sp1 they can turn it off and use program x or tweak it to their liking. Its alot more stable than Windows me and if you have a newer system then you will be so much better off using it.. Older is not better especially when talking about computers.

agree again. you can tweak XP a lot more than u can in ME. Plus ME is unstable.

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by ryan2_2


agree. but i would go toward xp because 98SE is becoming obsolete. plus xp would be better in the long run.



no offence but ME is unstable. it removed some dos extensions which caused a whole lot of bugs. Win 98SE is the last stable version of the dos based OS.

Unstable for YOU.....don't base how 'sucky' it is on just YOUR experience with it. Cuz that's just freakin stupid.....
I should have added "IMHO" to what I was saying since it's what I've dealt with and it's how my system/hardware/software has played out on the OS. But saying it's unstable based purely on YOUR insight doesn't count for much. While XP has it's good point's it has many many bad points..... DRM is tighter on it, that damn call so you can install YOUR own OS crap, the if you change PC's you gotta screw with the install code again. It's all to much of a hassle for me....and I really don't think they have a right to force me to do all that shit just so I can use a product I paid for with my own hard earned cash. So before you go saying it's unstable go read my posts in the thread I linked to here. Cuz it can be a stable OS it just takes effort on your part.


Seph: Newer isn't always better.....look at Kazaa? Or how with each new update theres more stopping you from doing what you want. Sooner or later you won't even be able to copy a CD to your HD with a MS OS. Or it'll just let you encode it right to crappy 64kbs WMA format with DRM enabled with no way to shut it off. I'm bracing myself for when that happens so I try and get the most outta older OS's before I jump right on the "new OS bandwagon".

BTW: Linux is looking up....Lindows is being sold on crappy Walmart PC's now and sooner or later the rest of the OEM PC makers will get wise and start using the cheaper Windows look alike OS.


Peace all, Later

[ryan2_2]

Originally posted by CCSDUDE


Unstable for YOU.....don't base how 'sucky' it is on just YOUR experience with it. Cuz that's just freakin stupid.....
I should have added "IMHO" to what I was saying since it's what I've dealt with and it's how my system/hardware/software has played out on the OS. But saying it's unstable based purely on YOUR insight doesn't count for much. While XP has it's good point's it has many many bad points..... DRM is tighter on it, that damn call so you can install YOUR own OS crap, the if you change PC's you gotta screw with the install code again. It's all to much of a hassle for me....and I really don't think they have a right to force me to do all that shit just so I can use a product I paid for with my own hard earned cash. So before you go saying it's unstable go read my posts in the thread I linked to here. Cuz it can be a stable OS it just takes effort on your part.


Seph: Newer isn't always better.....look at Kazaa? Or how with each new update theres more stopping you from doing what you want. Sooner or later you won't even be able to copy a CD to your HD with a MS OS. Or it'll just let you encode it right to crappy 64kbs WMA format with DRM enabled with no way to shut it off. I'm bracing myself for when that happens so I try and get the most outta older OS's before I jump right on the "new OS bandwagon".

BTW: Linux is looking up....Lindows is being sold on crappy Walmart PC's now and sooner or later the rest of the OEM PC makers will get wise and start using the cheaper Windows look alike OS.


Peace all, Later

i agree with phalkon30. i have never used ME but its reviews and the revomal of real-time dos and dos support has me think of it as unstable.

Xp is the second best OS i have ever used. its fast and secure. its being a system hog doesnt affect me because my amount of ram (512MB)

i agree with you bout linux. its the best os i have ever used. but the BSDs look more promising.

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by CCSDUDE


Unstable for YOU.....don't base how 'sucky' it is on just YOUR experience with it. Cuz that's just freakin stupid.....
I should have added "IMHO" to what I was saying since it's what I've dealt with and it's how my system/hardware/software has played out on the OS. But saying it's unstable based purely on YOUR insight doesn't count for much. While XP has it's good point's it has many many bad points..... DRM is tighter on it, that damn call so you can install YOUR own OS crap, the if you change PC's you gotta screw with the install code again. It's all to much of a hassle for me....and I really don't think they have a right to force me to do all that shit just so I can use a product I paid for with my own hard earned cash. So before you go saying it's unstable go read my posts in the thread I linked to here. Cuz it can be a stable OS it just takes effort on your part.


Seph: Newer isn't always better.....look at Kazaa? Or how with each new update theres more stopping you from doing what you want. Sooner or later you won't even be able to copy a CD to your HD with a MS OS. Or it'll just let you encode it right to crappy 64kbs WMA format with DRM enabled with no way to shut it off. I'm bracing myself for when that happens so I try and get the most outta older OS's before I jump right on the "new OS bandwagon".

BTW: Linux is looking up....Lindows is being sold on crappy Walmart PC's now and sooner or later the rest of the OEM PC makers will get wise and start using the cheaper Windows look alike OS.


Peace all, Later

You havent used windows Xp have you? All the things you mentioned were all crap posted on the web which alot of the ms stuff on the net is very exgeratted.

I doubt that if you had windows xp that you would use windows media player to copy a audio cd..

Looking at kazaa.. Before current verison could not use it behind a lan.. now can. Seems better to me. If you dont like it then use a different program..

Linux people have been saying its going to take over windows for years but hasnt happen. Just because its open source with to the vast majority of users doesnt mean anything. Open Source operating systems do have their fair share of bugs but since they dont have a large enough market share they arent a big enough target. Same reason why the RIAA hasnt gone after small p2p programs because they arent worth their time yet..

Linux is good for servers but for the average pc user i dont think that its a good choice which is the reason why alot of people here say they will use linux but probably never actually will..

[ryan2_2]

k lets stop argueing bout ME. It's not the point of this thread. lets come up wit solutions bout the Win ME shut down problem usin reformating as a last resort.

«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»

try n see if it works in safe mode. try the step by step startup. and try disabling all programs from starting up at start up using msconfig.

oh ya it depends bout the motherboard thing. if its more than a year and a half years old, you're better off just gettin a new computer.

[«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»]

First Topic:

I did a defrag and i just restarted the com, so i don't know if that helped. But ofcourse the programs run a bit faster and more stable.

I don't believe in getting rid of ME, because for now I can't and secondly I believe the problem is not with the stabability of it. I think it's more likely what CCSDUDE said about a program/programs making it not shut down properly.



Second Topic:

From what I gather it seems that I should get a new system all together.

As for Krell getting my system info, I don't believe I can help him because I don't know what motherboard I have nor anything else deeper than the Brand name and Type of thing i.e. sound card, graphics card, modem etc. I bought it from HP and the model is Pavilion 9726.

But if I were to get the computer made, all by myself. Where should I start? I don't mind making mistakes and it being costly.

But I want to know what I'm doing before I make the mistake or else I'll never learn! hehehe

Where do I start? Can I get any sites with step by step tutorals about what parts I need and then asembling them?

[Rickio]

If someone plays or works constantly with computers, ME or any other OS can be tweaked and made to run well enough.
I think it is not a perfect OS but when someone says it's shit they are showing us all how good they are at working with their puter.

your shut down problem means something is running and needs to be shut down.
a method was already mentioned (alt,ctrl delete) otherwise known as the 3 finger salute.

see what is hanging and kill it.

you might want to get a process viewer . it is easier to kill processes and also to see what is running at any moment in time.

go get this freeware app. process viewer at http://prcview.com

[method]

I'd say go with 2k until XP has been around for 3 years or at least had a few service packs released for it!! - Compared to Win9x/ME... 2k/XP offer better kernal handling, less crashing and less conflicts.

I work with 98, ME, NT, 2k & XP in work, general consensus is 2k is best although we're not phasing out ME/9x, we'll be using VMWare to test back-compatibility.

I know this will probably be ignored 'coz I was determined not to move on from 98SE after seeing 2k perform badly in the past (and have a lot of compatibility problems) - BUT.. it does seem to be the most stable and compatible at present.

WinME can be tweaked, but with the exception of 3.11 and 95 (maybe 98FE).. ME is the weakest version of windows. Sorry if that offends anyone, but it is true. ;)

[awsom1]

I'm afraid I have to disagree with CCSDUDE: WinMe is the crappiest OS of them all.

1->I tried Win98/WinMe dual boot combo
2->I've tried WinMe upgraded from Win98 single boot
3->I've tried WinMe fresh install single boot

And everytime I was left with the slowest, ever-crashing, crappiest system ever. And every night at about 11-12, the system would get all busy. The reason? System Restore was backing up files...as a result the folder was now sized 2GB! Can you believe it? Losing 2GB space for a restore program...and the agony of it was, I could not disable it!

So I went back to good ol' Win98 but meanwhile I found that Win2k was a sturdy OS, so I ran both of them with a dual boot, from which I could get the best of both platforms. I used to feel the same way that CCSDUDE feels now about XP when it was released. Tried it once, but didn't like the feel of it. So went back to Win98. But necessity drove me to XP again...

I had bought a new system and wanted to run a minimal home network, for which I had to install a server OS on the newer (and more powerful) computer. So I decided to give XP a second try. I found it to be the most comfortable and stable of all the OSes from MS, though I didn't like the default interface that came with it, which had put me off initially. So I reverted back to the classic desktop immediately...ah this was better.

I found out that I didn't even need to install a DHCP server...XP automatically assigned a dynamic ip to the other system whenever it came up. Talk about ease of use. And the number of crashes my system had (on a bad day my 98 crashed 5-7 times, and I don't even want to talk about WinMe here) came down so much so that I could count the number of days that my system crashed. And it gives you both the platforms at one go.

And CCSDUDE, why is there a question of modifying s/w code when changing your system? If you are comfortable enough to change your processor, you could always go about the easier task of doing a fresh install on your system rather than continuing with the previous install or modifying it. We're talking here in Zeropaid, and you should know how to get a copy of XP Pro Corporate Edition. You can do a fresh install of that on any number of systems as you want.

So here's my conclusion:
Win XP Pro -> best ever
Win2k -> solid one
Win98/SE -> good choice
Win95/3.1 -> too ancient
WinMe -> load of crap

------------------------------------

Coming back to the main topic, StealthStrike (nearest I can get to spelling your name correctly), here are my opinions:

Topic-1:
Yeah, have to agree with everyone here. Had the same problem when i ran 98. Solved it by removing unnecessary programs from starting up when the system booted. I also remember a friend correcting an entry in the "autoexec.bat" file that solved such a problem.

Topic-2:
I'd like to know what you're going to do with the spare parts when you upgrade, cuz if you're going to leave them lying around, you'll be offending yourself. My advice to you: if you're tired of your old system, just get a brand new one. Having two systems at once could open whole new vistas of possibilities...you could run the older one as a P2P only system, as another thread has discussed already. Or you could use it to try different OSes. Or you could use it to host a LAN party, though you'd have only one invitee, but hey...you could say you did it! The options are endless, and it all depends on your initiative...

But if you're planning on buying a new system, here's what I wanna tell you:

1->Get an original Intel m/b (compatible with the P4 processor), the performance will do more than to compensate for the extra bucks you pay.
2->256mb ram is de facto nowadays, going higher would be more of a waste too. you could wait and get another 256mb added when the need arises.
3->Get a graphics card with more than 32mb video memory (64mb, 128mb...choice depends on your wallet size). 32mb nowadays is rather low-end.

All other peripheral needs would depend on your choice. I'd recommend these sites for good reviews:
Tom's Hardware Guide (http://www.tomshardware.com/)
AnandTech (http://www.anandtech.com/)

Here's wishing you all the very best in your endeavors! ;-)

[ryan2_2]

Originally posted by «°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»
First Topic:

I did a defrag and i just restarted the com, so i don't know if that helped. But ofcourse the programs run a bit faster and more stable.

I don't believe in getting rid of ME, because for now I can't and secondly I believe the problem is not with the stabability of it. I think it's more likely what CCSDUDE said about a program/programs making it not shut down properly.



Second Topic:

From what I gather it seems that I should get a new system all together.

As for Krell getting my system info, I don't believe I can help him because I don't know what motherboard I have nor anything else deeper than the Brand name and Type of thing i.e. sound card, graphics card, modem etc. I bought it from HP and the model is Pavilion 9726.

But if I were to get the computer made, all by myself. Where should I start? I don't mind making mistakes and it being costly.

But I want to know what I'm doing before I make the mistake or else I'll never learn! hehehe

Where do I start? Can I get any sites with step by step tutorals about what parts I need and then asembling them?

start with the basics: the motherboard, cpu, graphics card, hard drive, dvd/cd burner/rom, sound card, NIC, and the case

you should check www.pcworld.com . they have lots of step by step stuff on building a computer. they also have something called the Top 100 which is a whole bunch of charts on computers and computer parts.

[FriedSpam]

StealthStrike:-

Dude, definately build your own system. You've never done it before so you've got to start somewhere, and now days with plug and play it's easy as fuck.

All you have to do is stick it all together, turn on the power, install an OS and you're away!

The satisfaction you get when your creation beeps at you for the first time is amazing....

... not to mention, from my expirience, you'll probably have less problems with it than a shop built system. Don't know why, maybe they skimp in the parts and this causes conflicts???

check out www.tomshardware.com . The site is a great place to start with reviews an comparisons of components and the community (forum) is a good place to look for advice.

How much have you got to spend? What components do you want? What type of system do you want?

A basic PC has (and anyone, feel free to add to this list with anything I've forgotten):-

A Case
A power supply
A Motherboad
A CPU
A Hard drive
Memory
A Floppy
CD-rom/Burner/DVD etc.
Modem/Network Card
Graphics Card
Sound card
Moniter - What your one like?

CPU Want performance? - get the P4 2.8, need something a little less expensive? - go for the P42.4Ghz or possibly a 2200+ Athlon.....

Hope this helps.

As for OS I'd go for XP Pro. It's easy to use, it's one of the most stable. It's new, so it'll continued to be supported by Microsoft for a while yet (Keep you OS up to date! It patches security holes... unsupported Os's get more an more vulnerable as time goes by, as their security holes get more widely known, and more and more get found....).

[FriedSpam]

ryan2_2 - sorry matey, didn't read your post properly so I didn't see the 'start with the basics' bit...

Guess I didn't need to post my list of components....

[ryan2_2]

StealthStrike, you should probably wait until ClawHammer comes out.

Also you should buy the biggest tower and the most powerful power supply you can find and transfer some of the stuff from the old pc to the new one (eg. monitor, cd-rom drive, hard drive)

go for XP home. XP pro IS NOT worth the extra $100 for home users. unless you want to pirate it :)

also get 512 MB of RAM so u can load the kernal completely into the ram and so u can have a RAM disk.

get a 80 GB hard drive. u only need 40 GB nowadays but u want a system that lasts.

PM me if u want a partition prog.

[FriedSpam]

yeah, get a 400W PSU (or more if you can afford it, I reckon).

Antec is probably the way to go make wise, if you can get the cash together, as they're reliable, got good features, well documented, give out more power than they're rated for etc. etc.

And if you're looking for a case, get one without an inbuilt Power Supply if possible, as the inbuilt ones tend to be crap (though you can get some with quality power supplies) so you'll have to buy another, so no sense paying for two...

[phalkon30]

if you are going to build your own computer from scratch (and i recommend doing that considering its an HP) look for your parts on www.pricewatch.com , pricewatch searches other web sites to find the best prices on pc parts, any part, and the best part is its FREE!

i built one this summer by ordering parts online, i did quite a bit of research and asked around a bit, i wouldnt go with a P4, you can get a compareable AMD for much cheaper, my 1800+ will easily compete with my dads 2.24 P4 (hes even got the 533bus), we both have the same specs other than MB and Processor

as for ram, it depends on which OS you're running, i wouldnt go anything less than 256, especially if you're running xp/2k

when getting a hard drive, go for the fast drive (7200 rpm), the hard drive is the slowest part of the pc and is the bottleneck for information, 40 gig should be plenty

graphics card...deffinately go over 32meg, you can get a 128 meg vid card (nvidia geforce 3 ti) for about 100 bux online

if you do plan on getting another monitor, go at least 17", otherwise you will regret it, i got my 19" flat screen for $150

the rest of the parts you want to buy dont have too many options, a sound card on the MB should be enough, make sure you get some usb on the board to, and 400W pwr supplys with case are about 30 bux, so just get one of those

and back to OS, my version of XP Pro works great, ive reloaded several times without calling MS, sure i cant get service packs, but i can update all other aspects...download a copy, you can make it look and feel like 98 with little tweaking, and it will be around for much longer than ME

(btw, without vid card and cd drives, i built my system for arround 400 bux, i have an 1800+ AMD, ASUS MB, 512Meg DDR 2100, 40gig 7200 RPM hard drive, 400W pwr supply, and 19" monitor)

[ryan2_2]

krell, great post.

one thing, make your c: partition the smallest you can possibly make it and format it FAT12 and don't put anything on it. this protects you from most of the older viruses. the only prob with this is that Windows versions other than ME and 2k and XP don't let u do this because they dont let you select the partition to install Windows on

[The Hunter]

:wings This is a reply,/question for Krell and others. The main purpose of your system, isnt this a good question to ask? Just wondering? If you arnt playing/ or planning to play a lot of new high speed games you might be able to save a few bucks. If your big thing is getting movies/songs, or a bit of porn? A bit more ram,or a faster cpu/ better os might help.
I dont have a lot of knowledge compared to others,but to me the first thing I think about is the use of the machine.
My tec told me I couldnt upgrade, I have a ax33 aopen, and it had a 633cell. A 950 cell worked fine, I put in a bigger heatsink just incase. Now I am waiting for the pentiums to drop more. Good luck.

[phalkon30]

http://www.hp.com/cposupport/ is the site for looking up hp specs

a complete parts list can be found at http://partsinfo.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main?sel_flg=partlist&model=P2906A&HP_model=P2906A&modname=Pavilion+9726+%28Asia+Pacific%29+%28P2906A %29&template=secondary&plist_sval=ALL&plist_styp=flag&dealer_id=&keysel=%3F&catsel=%3F&ptypsel=%3F&strsrch=

it has a:
-Skywalker chassis 4.0
-IDE DVD-ROM drive - 16x-max speed
-40GB IDE hard disk drive - 5400 RPM
-128MB, 133MHz SDRAM DIMM memory module
-USB keyboard
-Windows ME (Millennium Edition)
-USB scrolling mouse
-Motherboard PCI extender card
-Motherboard (system board) - Tahiti-UL (OEM) - Does not have built-in audio
-Sound card - Floyd LC, PC99, CLRS, 128V 1373
-Video card - Nvidia RIVA TNT2 Ultra with 32MB video memory
-PCI modem card - Aztech MSP3880 (w/res fix, Hong Kong)
-185 watt power supply (Chewbaka Plus, Delta DPS-160GB B) - 100-127VAC and 200-240VAC input (switch selectable), 43-66Hz - Total of 9 output connectors (Asia Pacific)
-AMD processor module - 1GHz, Thunderbird

these are off the reorder price list, i left out some irrelivant info

hope that helps the discussion a little bit :)

[phalkon30]

id like to give you my view on what to keep and what to take out back and shoot

-the chasis, i dont know anything about this case and google didnt help much either, but the power supply that comes with is puny and will not be sufficient, a case with 400w pwr supply is only $30-50-500, so go for whatever looks good and fits your price range
-keep the dvd rom, 16 is the fastest read you can get (last time i checked anyway)
-hard drive, keep it, and if you have another $80 get a faster 7200 rpm 40 gig, that way like krell said, you could have a back up drive for that irreplacible pirated music/movies
-ram, take that ram and use it as a door stop (lol), almost all new M/B's have DDR or RDRAM, SDRAM is outdated and very slow, i recommend getting at least 256 meg ddr2100, if you are running anything over 98, this is almost a minimum as xp will not even boot with anything less than 128meg
-if you like the keyboard, keep it, keyboards are basicly keyboards
-Windows ME, (please dont flame me for saying this...) take your ME restore disk, and use it as a coaster, do yourself a favor and get a hacked copy of xp pro that you dont have to register, or at very least get 2k, both are designed for high end newer systems, they will be more plug and play compatible because of the imense driver database included in newer windows systems
-usb scrolling mouse, again, if you like it, keep it, if you want to upgrade, you can get an intelimouse optical for about 10bux if you look around
-M/B, my favorite brand is ASUS, everybody has their own preference for brand, look for a good deal, but DO NOT buy the cheapest board possible, they tend to pull a 3 mile island style burnout, when looking for features, get at minimum: 3PCI slots, 1 4X AGP slot, 2-4 USB 2.0, audio onboard, and if you if you can find it, a 10/100 port, modem port, and anything else you can get, such as firewire
-sound card, just get it on the M/B, you can get 6 chanel sound that works great
-vid card, if you have the money, go with nVidia, they have better drivers than ATI, get at least a 64meg, if possible go for 128, tv out is allways nice to :)
-if you need it, keep the modem, or just get it on M/B
-Processor, i really like the AMD's (i said why in an earlier post, scroll up), but if you have the money and wanna say to your friends "hey, i have a pentium, then go ahead, just dont come back to me when they laugh at what you payed

im going to let my hands uncramp for a while now...dont necessarily go with everything i said, you probably have different needs than i do, but i have spent most of the last year researching parts for my own

gl man, its fun as hell to do

[ryan2_2]

Originally posted by phalkon30
-Processor, i really like the AMD's (i said why in an earlier post, scroll up), but if you have the money and wanna say to your friends "hey, i have a pentium, then go ahead, just dont come back to me when they laugh at what you payed

ya i agree. but he should wait for clawhammer, that x86/64 stuff sounds awesome. youll never get that with a Intel.

and around the same time serial ata should take off.

[Rickio]

lot's of good info here.
one little tiny point, system restore can be disabled on WinME
I do think win2k is most likely the better OS.
but it does come down to actually working and learning the system
building your own puter is the way to go.

winME has crashed on me in 2 years maybe 16 times. ;-)

Peace!

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by Rickio
lot's of good info here.
one little tiny point, system restore can be disabled on WinME
I do think win2k is most likely the better OS.
but it does come down to actually working and learning the system
building your own puter is the way to go.

winME has crashed on me in 2 years maybe 16 times. ;-)

Peace!

Hmm....yup you can turn off System Restore an or limit how much space the backups will take up....
Awsom1:If you didn't know that....you have little say on how 'unstable' ME is....

I've had it crash maybe 10 times tops since I installed and tweaked. So take your it's unstable crap elsewhere.
As for your last comment....I don't know what your trying to say or ask....so help me out there. And your statement "WinME is the crapiest of all" is just that....a statement made by someone who isn't that educated. And if you would have read my posts in the other thread....you'd know that I use WinME OVER 95 not 98 or some other crap. Before you start trashing something get some good info on it or at least read the post over.

Rickio: Win2k is good but some of the mutlimedia stuff lacks so I'm always pushed back to WinME.


Anyway «°¤§téålth§t®îk餰» good luck on your new system....

Try these links.

Step by step info on what you need and how to install it...
http://www.pcmech.com/build.htm
Build your PC online. (don't buy from 'em there overpriced LOL) just use there template to pick what you wanna use since most places check to make sure it all works well together.

http://www.1stopcustomcomputers.com/

Build it, write down exactly what the models are and find 'em on pricewatch from a good reputable place. Then use the PCmech link to figure out how to put it all together.


If you need any help PM me. O_O


Peace all, Later

[«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»]

Wow so much info i gotta save this thread when it'f finished and read it all over again!

I tried the crt,alt+delete when i got stuck at the desktop background. And i found the problem a program called Tapisu dunno what it was.

But after i restarted, muhahahhaha that's when all the trouble began.

It started telling me that I have some problem with my registry.

Then it said that SURegKey Failded (whatever that means)

Then programs didn't work because they could not access the registry.

On the 5th restart (in between trying NAV 2002 boot and scan)

ALL, I repeat ALL programs got reverted to the original state, meaning as if it were a new program after install.

Then hardware could not find drivers and all sorts of shit.

But finally i was able to reformat and now that i set ALMOST everything back.

I'm on the net again!

So that was a really, really wierd experience for me. I must admit that if it's not a virus then i guess i might as well go XP or something other than ME.
(still saving up for an OS HD MB and other stuff. But my dad is treating me to a new CD writer!)

Anywho, I hope that the program Rickio suggested works cause it seems that after the reformat that a program is still causing it not to restart properly, even though shut down seems to work ok. I think! hehe

[«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»]

Originally posted by Krell
E x c e l l e n t now . . . there's a baseline to work with. Although the case and psu are not much good, the 40Gb hard drive and DVD player can be salvaged, with kb and mouse.

The board and proc can be used as a secondary system, for non-performanes related tasks.

So . . an ATX case . . 350 -400 watt psu . . .mother board, new proc & memory, and video card.

Somebody ring this guy up and give him a receipt.

.

Thnx Krell, I got a question for ya, when I go buy a CD-Writer does it have to be compatable with the system I have?

BTW, I upgraded the Ram to 512, got better speakers than the crappy ones they give you, Creative 5.1 speakers, and I got a Microsoft Explorer Mouse and Natural Typing Internet Keyboard Pro (i think tha's what it's called) and a 3M LCD moniter Filter.

[phalkon30]

try visiting http://www.synet.co.kr/sup/sup_m.htm

its a search result i got on google, judging by the characters in the page, and the characters in your name...im assuming you can make some sense of it

i did pull out some refferences to clean sweep and anti virus (both norton products)

did you by any chance mess with your internet or anti virus settings?

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by phalkon30
try visiting http://www.synet.co.kr/sup/sup_m.htm

its a search result i got on google, judging by the characters in the page, and the characters in your name...im assuming you can make some sense of it

i did pull out some refferences to clean sweep and anti virus (both norton products)

did you by any chance mess with your internet or anti virus settings?


It's just not displaying right cuz you don't have a Japanese/Korean/Taiwanese/ect....
fon't installed for your browser. In this case it's Korean so unless he knows Korean.....it won't make a damn bit of sense to 'em LOL

Sorry to hear ya had to format dude....back up your reg every few days. It's only like 10 mb's and thats when it's packed with tons of program settings. As for the CDRW....it doesn't really matter anything 800mhz of faster can burn at 32x or faster. (it's just like a normal CD Rom in most ways - just make sure you get an IDE one not SCSI or whatever LOL)

Peace all, Later

[phalkon30]

i understand why its not displaying right, i was just hoping (taking a long shot guess), that because some characters matched the characters in his name......its worth a try i gues

lol

[«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»]

off topic for a sec, «°¤§téålth§t®îk餰» or StealthStrike.

I have a englis OS just like yours Phalk and i see what you see LOL. I just think it's cool to just Chinese fonts (or in some OS's Korean, Japanese etc.) To make my name.


CCSDUDE thnx for replying, so all i need is an IDE type CD-Writer for my sucky system LOL.

BTW, what CD-Writer do you have? Or would recommend?

P.S. Your really saving me a lot of trouble the next time i have that reg problem, backed it up now and saved it! Thnx!

[phalkon30]

oh well, it was worth a try, although looking back that was probably a shot in the dark

(even though you werent talking to me...) www.cdr-info.com has some great reviews, they should have every answer you could ever want for cd writing, including the software you want when you get it

[Rickio]

[i]«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»

Anywho, I hope that the program Rickio suggested works cause it seems that after the reformat that a program is still causing it not to restart properly, even though shut down seems to work ok. I think! hehe [/B]

write down exactly what your screen says when your system does not start correctly as you are saying and post it here.

I'm sure we can figure it out with a few more postings.

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by «°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»
off topic for a sec, «°¤§téålth§t®îk餰» or StealthStrike.

I have a englis OS just like yours Phalk and i see what you see LOL. I just think it's cool to just Chinese fonts (or in some OS's Korean, Japanese etc.) To make my name.


CCSDUDE thnx for replying, so all i need is an IDE type CD-Writer for my sucky system LOL.

BTW, what CD-Writer do you have? Or would recommend?

P.S. Your really saving me a lot of trouble the next time i have that reg problem, backed it up now and saved it! Thnx!


Plexor CDRW's are good but I haven't picked one up in ages so IDK how good they are these days. Sony's are decent...hmmm I picked up a crappy creative once that was a rebaged Plextor LOL still works and is a killer drive....good price too. Recently picked up a "norcent" 32x drive to screw with....very very cheap - 50 bucks LOL and it's given me no problems so far. Not one bad disk. Plus it does raw write and a ton of other crap most major brands don't put in.


Yup IDE CDRW is the way to go since SCSI needs an extra card unless your system supports it - haven't seen a PC that's sold at any bestbuy type store that had SCSI in it....so my guess is you run off IDE. If your system is 800mhz + you can burn at all the fast speeds (24x - 32x ect) without any problems. But me being the freak I am record mostly at 2x 4x and 8x. So if/when you figure you wanna burn a VCD burn at slooooow speeds like 1x 2x 4x ect cuz the faster you burn the better the chance that you'll get a worthless disk that skips with out of sync sound.


Also when you go shopping for a CDRW try and get one that's balanced and heavy....no techie reason for this I've just found heavy drives that are balanced well last and work well.


I'm sure others can give more good advice on buying a new CDRW drive.

"CCSDUDE, I am so proud of your avatar, she looks like a lovely raver girl starting at community college. Much Improvement. "

LMFAO......I made it myself...thanks for the praise I feel all warm inside now...HAHAHAHA....

Oh yeah....go me! 900th post!!! WHOO FREAKIN WHOO

Peace all, Later

[phalkon30]

you could try a look at LG, i have an LG burner and dvd rom, both were well under the other name brands, and work just as great, lite-on and plextor as mentioned are great for copying copyrighted cds

from personal experience, stay away from philips, sure they look all pretty and crap, but mine produced about 25% coasters, and the audio cds it did copy had massive static scratchy noise no matter what speed i burned at, maybe they have improved (i got the llama whippin 8x4x40 version when they first came out), but ive never heard a good review of one


btw CCSDUDE, congrats on the posts, glad to see im not the only one with no life :gj

[«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»]

Originally posted by Krell
«°¤§téålth§t®îk餰»
You can get a CDR-W that has a copy of NERO with it for around $50, if its made by AOPEN or LITE-ON, go for it. It DOESNT have to be the latest and greatest. (lets not rehash this again)
.

sorry bout that didn't mean to rehash, i just didn't get time to actually read word by word all of everyones stuff, just used some speed reading through each of the non useable right now post.

thnx anyway!

CCSDUDE! congrats!

I'm gonna get a burner today! yippeee!