Direct Connect, hmmm never used it

[MusicMan]

If anyone can give me a good review for Direct Connect, it would be appreciated, I was thinking about switching. Does it have it's own individual protocol?

[Foreverboard]

If you use DC use DC++ it is much better than the origanal

http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download

Multi-Hub connections
Minimize to tray
/commands
Logging
Display Joins & Parts
Confirm Exit
Resume check
Notepad
Favorites List
Sounds
No Advertisments
Disculde hidden files from share
Non-crappy interface
Not Visual Basic (!)
Menubar
Open Source
Firewall/Router Support
Auto-Connect
Search Spy
Multi-Kicking
Away Message

Good luck I tried it for a bit, i share over 60gigs of files. But I could find stuff it just was slowwwwwwww downloads.

Let freedom fly
:shy

[Foreverboard]

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sorry for that .gif it was the wrong one.

[Vladjimir]

Direct Connect is a client everyone has to have. Why? It is a real alternative.

Most of the filesharing clients are moving into the same direction: decentralization, ultrapeers, swarmed downloading. The result is the content on these networks is very much the same. Very common files, you get easily, rare files not.

Direct connect is a totally different client.

I will give you a few examples of things I found on Direct Connect that are very difficult to find on other programs. Maybe you could find them on these other clients, but with only one source you don't get anywhere mostly. That is the great plus of Direct Connect: Only one good source is good to get a rare file. You get often download speeds of 30 kb/s (and more)

Here are a few examples of things I downloaded from it:
- The game Icewind Dale (in iso)
- Baldur's gate: throne of bhaal (a game)
- Diablo II
- Medal of Honor: Allied Assault (game)
- Memento (movie)
- Blade Runner (movie)
- Amelie from Montmartre (movie)

The bad thing about this is that you have to search different servers before you find something and that you may not be allowed to certain servers. The thing is: find some good servers that allow you and stick with them.

The reason why certain servers don't allow you can for example be that you don't share enough. Some servers even ask you to share more than 50 gigs, but mostly only ask 5 or 10 gigs. The advantage of this system is that a huge amount of files is available for download. (there is more than one terabyte of files available on direct connect).

Pro:
- Rare movies and games available
- Huge amount of files available

Anti:
- Not many mp3 files
-Steep learning curve: have to find out how you can resume (clicking on a file name with the same name and he'll ask to resume) and sometimes you must switch to passive mode in the settings in order for direct connect to work. (so people can be tricked into thinking the program doesn't work for them)
- Difficult searching: you have to switch servers to search for rare files.
- No features like swarmed downloading and ultrapeers (but the program doesn't need them anyway, the concept is just differnet)

[Foreverboard]

The thing I really dont like about DC is the stupid chat. I dont see why they have to put chat in, but that is my preferance.

[MusicMan]

Nice, I think I'll DirectConnect a good try now, sounds like it has a good selection of media.

[Wolfie]

What is minimum number of gigs of files (mine is mostly music) you would need to get started on Direct Connect? Right now I have about 3.6 gigs of mp3s and I heard that you need qualify by have certain mimimum of gig to even get in some of hubs on DC.

[Vladjimir]

At some servers, you will be allowed with only 2 gigs of files, but these are not many. These servers mostly don't have more than 100 users, some have 200 but not more. Try for example the server: Welcome thieving bastards. That's a good one for you I guess

[BloodySabbath]

For most of the better servers, you should expect a minimum sharing requirement of 30, 40, & 50 GB.
While it is quite an elitist setup, it also guarentees that if you have a 50GB/person server with 500 people then you'll have 25 TB of files :fire

[Wolfie]

Hmmmm... I think I might wait little while for and get more files before trying DC. Thanx for info guys :fire

[imoron]

I don't think the sharing part has really been emphasized <sp?> enough. What's really nice about DC is that for most hubs you have to share a minimum amount of data and upload slots to connect. Leeching is still possible, and some people get desperate and include their entire HD, but for the most part there's a lot of SHARING going on. Which, I think, is why DC++ is banned from quite a few hubs (It allows to connect to multiple hubs but people forget to increase the number of upload slots, so you get people who are connected to 10 hubs with only 3 slots open total. It shold be 10 hubs = 30 slots open.). Connections are usually fast (not many modems by my count), and hubs are for the most part organized around specialties (divx, console games, porn, no porn, music, etc). Trading is (supposedly) discouraged, and the sheer size of sharing is impressive.

The downside is that you REALLY have to share to get into the good hubs. So I hear, I've only got 6 gigs of free drive space to play with, so I can't get into the 50 or 100 GB hubs. A lot of hubs have 5 GB as a min, 10GB seems to be the standard. You can still get into good hubs below those amounts, but I can tell you I feel pretty guilty when it's just me and one other guy who are below 20 GB on a hub. On the plus side, it's pretty easy to build a big share so long as you have the drive space and the fat pipe. As noted before, the interface is a little clunky to deal with, the help menu is anything but, and the chat windows can quickly proliferate out of control if you connect to more then 2 hubs. And be prepared to search a bit sometimes, especially with low share sizes. Some days I get what I'm looking for on the first hub I hit, other times I'm trying 20 hubs and getting nothing (remeber tho, I'm not sharing enough to get into an uberhub). I do have an easier time finding mp3's on FT, tho. The protocol I believe is proprietary, the install does include a web accelerator thingy (you can not install by going to custom install ... adaware didn't complain any), and you have to choose between a cydoor or noncydoor installer.

Overall I prefer the FT clients (kazaalite specifically) due to ease and variety, but DC is a great alternative, certainly a lot better then eDonkey or winMX in my opinion. If you like compulsory sharing, BIG files, and fast dl/ul connections, DC is a great choice.

[Roamerick]

Sounds like I might have to give it a go. I've been resisting on the grounds that it seemed a bit too much like hassle, having to go into hubs and have that whole community-oriented approach where you actually have to speak to people and all that. I'm all for community but not when I'm media-whoring. And I do share huge anounts of files, mostly dvd rips.

So DC++ is the one, huh? Can anyone post a starter guide for those like me who have steered clear of this beast? Up until recently edonkey was my main movie source (You simply cannot beat something as cleanly organised as sharereactor, short of going to your local videostore) but since the death of the bot it's been a bit hit and miss.

Tonight I shall try iMesh, maybe even DC and whatever this big-ass announcement is gonna release (again: better be good and not like a final XoloX or some such crap. The beta's good enough as it is).

But in the meantime, if you think you're a DC expert, show it by PMing me a quickstart guide. I want films, loads of 'em, and fast! :black

[abby.co]

never used DC, but isn't it almost the same as Hotline ??

is it trading or sharing?

[BloodySabbath]

DC is similar to Hotline only in that you have to log onto one of many servers which sometimes, also like Hotline, will have power-tripping 13 old's for Admins.
(TIP: steer clear of these servers :shy :fire)
After you connect to a server though it functions much like any other p2p app letting you search for stuff through the shared files of hundreds of users, not in the server/client manner of Hotline.

[Roamerick]

I wont say that DC is worthles, but it certainly didn't impress me in the long run. On first try I got lucky, connected to some good servers and started downloading rare movie files at ridiculopus speeds. My glee was short-lived though - Soon ll my downloads dropped and the files were nowhere to be found on the servers. And to this day I still have bits of files hanging around in the hope that DC may one day find them again :(

But most of them have now been re-downloaded with XoloX, which, for all its shortcomings, never fails to work in a "fire and forget" fashion. DC (actually DC++) needs to be cuddled, coaxed and stroked for it to work properly. XoloX just does.

[Vladjimir]

Roamerick

Direct Connect doesn't resume the files itself. You have to do that manually. You have to find a file with the exact name and size and then resume. That isn't that difficult.

[Morgwen]

I tested DC now... I see only a few users... I don´t find the files I search for, no multi-source etc.

To make it short I deleted DC...

Morgwen

[Roamerick]

Vlad, what I meant was that I could no longer find the files at all, or no workable sources for them. I'm aware that DC++ doesn't have auto-resume... One more point against it in this day and age. But thanks for the advice :)

[BtDM]

DC is the best IMNSO.

I used it for a little while before I had to remove it and now I am after it again. It is a wonderful little program ;)

Now I just need to find my favorite hub again.

[InspectorGadget]

hmm think I'll have to add my opinion of dc to this thread.

There's no denying that dc isn't what it once was, believe it or not at one time dc was unknown to the mainstream p2p users and it truly was as great as people have claimed it was, I guess I should mention that one of the most important aspects of a p2p primarily based on large files (movies ect) is the freeloaders.

To make a long story short and to the point, all the non sharers from kazaa and other p2p's are coming to dc because it's the one p2p (edonkey is the only other but most ppl don't like d/l at 2-3k's) that the majority are there to share so these people are taking full advantage of it and the dc you see today is the result of it., very few hubs (there are a few) can keep most of these people out since there's so many of them. So most of the really good hubs don't list themselves in the hub list anymore and only exist to those who know that they exist

I voted that dc is still the best ever p2p app in my opinion because I've been using it for a long time and know most if not all of the private (unlisted) hubs that carry on the spirit of dc still, though it really is only possible to do this by not exposing your hub to the general public because of how many freeloaders out there :(

[PowerMan57two]

DC is okay, DC++ is not better than the original DC I think. On DC to get into the hub or "chat rooms" you have to share so much GB's to be able to get in, and when you do get in, it's mainly for just software, ad games. Not much music. most hubs require 5GB - 10GB, but if you have a program like me that fakes how much you share, then you can get into any hub :wings but now hubs are catching onto this program, and learning how to kick fake sharers out. So DC is just for software, games, and movies I think. for mp3 you can't see how much bitrate the mp3, or how long it is. so dc I think is not for music. But we all have our own opinion.

[Korn377135678]

What i like to do is use dc and dc++.Nither one is perfect .Its not all 50 and 100 gig min share.What i see is from 2,10,20 the most as min shared.I have 18 gigs shared and i do fine geting into the hubs.

[wonderboy2005]

i think i have to voice my opinion here...

first of all, imo, DC++ beats DC hands down. i dont know how i put up with only one hub at a time before. what i do, is go into DC++ and connect to somthing like 40 hubs, and search for the file(s) i need. its never failed me. occasionally, i will run into a slow user, but thats not the norm. average speeds for me are above 30KB/s. maybe i am a little partial to DC++ because i can share so much (over 30 gigs) so i can get into almost every hub. i honsetly love DC++, the only thing i havnt been able to find on it is unreal tournament 2003 (which by the way, i did technically find, but the first cd was corrupt.... the same as every other filesharing program!!!) if you need help with DC++, please PM me.... i'd hate for somone to miss out on this good experience without fully understanding it....

[Korn377135678]

Ok that myth that you cant connect to more than hub with dc is wrong.You can have many hubs open in dc.just click that dc icon again and another dc window pops up.

[Ghost 23]

I am a avid DC++ user but I depinitly to agree with someone above who said its more of a "Broadband Experience", this is a very true statement. Usually when you connect on certain hubs and you stay on for a while and just share file, I mean like share 10gigs or more you get people who invite you to more specialized site and usually the connect are high bandwith so the downloads and uploads are much faster and there for truly experiencing the true and just delight of what filesharing really is. Thats the thing I hate about Kazaa, shareaza, and etc. people share 10 files of craps and thats sharing and they et pissed at you when you disconnect them from you and it just ques back up. DC++ all the way.

[BlueLieu]

I was so frustrated with KLite and other P2P clients, then I found DC and GLO-search. I will NEVER go back. I have broadband and share ~45gb of movies, warez, cracks, mp3's & eBooks. I just wish I knew more about what is "polite" behavior on the IRC channels. I rarely chat, though sometimes I do, and am not sure how long I should be connected to a hub to not be a leech, etc.

Bottomline: If you are a passive P2P user, with perhaps < 1gb to share, stick with KLite. If you are tired of the long download times, fake files, few sources, etc or popular P2P clients and are more than a novice in general computing, DC all the way!

[Ghost 23]

I was checking out that glo search software you were speking about Blue but I wanted to know if this software works with DC++ at all, If not why not just use dc++?

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by Morgwen
I tested DC now... I see only a few users... I don´t find the files I search for, no multi-source etc.

To make it short I deleted DC...

Morgwen

Wait... you don't like DC because of its few users and small abundance of files.. y e t, you are a "gnutella maniac"?

BAAAAAAAAAHAHAHahahAHAHHAHAHAHAHhahaa

Yes yes I know this person doesn't even come to ZP anymore, but come on! That was ripe for the taking!

By the way DC++ works well for me as well.

[Toxiso]

Originally posted by InspectorGadget
hmm think I'll have to add my opinion of dc to this thread.

There's no denying that dc isn't what it once was, believe it or not at one time dc was unknown to the mainstream p2p users and it truly was as great as people have claimed it was, I guess I should mention that one of the most important aspects of a p2p primarily based on large files (movies ect) is the freeloaders.

To make a long story short and to the point, all the non sharers from kazaa and other p2p's are coming to dc because it's the one p2p (edonkey is the only other but most ppl don't like d/l at 2-3k's) that the majority are there to share so these people are taking full advantage of it and the dc you see today is the result of it., very few hubs (there are a few) can keep most of these people out since there's so many of them. So most of the really good hubs don't list themselves in the hub list anymore and only exist to those who know that they exist

I voted that dc is still the best ever p2p app in my opinion because I've been using it for a long time and know most if not all of the private (unlisted) hubs that carry on the spirit of dc still, though it really is only possible to do this by not exposing your hub to the general public because of how many freeloaders out there :(

True !!
I have stoped using DC just for the free riders that DON´T share or just have some stupied fake share!.

DC was good until a year ago or so...
IRC that´s what i use these days..

[method77]

Oldest thread ever!

[BlueLieu]

GLO-Search works with DC and DC++. However, where as GLO will download directly outta DC, it won't with DC++. So you end up connecting to hub with DC++ and getting their list.

DC doesn't have enough files or users?!?! I am on 5-6 hubs and between them I have access to 112TB. It's been sufficient for me.

BTW: I have yet to get a fake file from DC. Try that on Fasttrack/Gnutella!

You can't have dumb fire and forget P2P AND valid files with lots of variety. Take yer pick, I pick DC++.

[Elvise]

Originally posted by BlueLieu
GLO-Search works with DC and DC++. However, where as GLO will download directly outta DC, it won't with DC++. So you end up connecting to hub with DC++ and getting their list.


Just use MoS++ instead.

[Ghost 23]

Originally posted by Elvise


Just use MoS++ instead.

I never heard of MoS++ but I will give it a shot, thanks for the FYI>

[Jizz]

I've been using DC for over 6 months now, and I will never use a Kazaa ( or the like ) so long as its around. A couple of things I like about DC :

1) I have no problem finding mp3's. People on DC , with the exception of leechers whom you can't avoid with any file sharing program , tend to build collections. Its not just one big jumble mess of files. So when I find someone who has roughly the same tastes as me I can usually get a whole lot of albums from them. Also people that build collections usually have their files organized well, and checked to make sure they're not crap quality files.

2) These private hubs that people are always talking about do go public occasionally to draw in more people when they get low. They will usually go public for a couple days at a time to get a steady filled hub, and then they go private for a few weeks or so. A word of advice. If you find a hub that you like put them on your favorites list because they might not be in the public list for sometime.

3) I don't even have the words to explain rare files. I'll just say they're not as rare as they used to be.

4) DC is not a hard program to use, but I can't imagine it being easy for the average Kazaa user. It takes a little getting used too, so DC in itself turns lots of people away. I'm guessing teenie bops, the stupid , and the lazy. Which brings me back to point 1, because teenie bops, stupid and lazy people aren't the ones building collections of files.

5) Someone mentioned that the average D/L speed is around 20-30 KB/s. I suppose thats a fair statement, but it dosen't have to be. When I D/L a file thats around 600mb or so I don't settle for less than 80 kb/s unless its is a rare file. Granted it takes you a little longer to find someone with the file at that speed. Sometimes an extra 30 mins. of searching, and thats streching it. The plus is you save hours of D/L time, and thats not streching it.

In short DC really does rock, but your not going to know it by trying it out for a couple of hours. Like most things good you do have to invest some time. Hope this helps, if it does I'll see ya there.

-Jizz
p74c380@yahoo.com

[Big_A]

SOLD,

I've just got adsl and an 80gb HD, can share about 10gb of divx movies so I'll give it a go ....

[Bmonk]

DC rulez all the way, Kazaa/Winmx suxorz

no joking but there is not many stuff i can't grab from DC... i almost found everything i wanted, and some of them being extremely rare ISOs of games that i couldn't find in shops

[Ghost 23]

Originally posted by Jizz
I've been using DC for over 6 months now, and I will never use a Kazaa ( or the like ) so long as its around. A couple of things I like about DC :

1) I have no problem finding mp3's. People on DC , with the exception of leechers whom you can't avoid with any file sharing program , tend to build collections. Its not just one big jumble mess of files. So when I find someone who has roughly the same tastes as me I can usually get a whole lot of albums from them. Also people that build collections usually have their files organized well, and checked to make sure they're not crap quality files.

2) These private hubs that people are always talking about do go public occasionally to draw in more people when they get low. They will usually go public for a couple days at a time to get a steady filled hub, and then they go private for a few weeks or so. A word of advice. If you find a hub that you like put them on your favorites list because they might not be in the public list for sometime.

3) I don't even have the words to explain rare files. I'll just say they're not as rare as they used to be.

4) DC is not a hard program to use, but I can't imagine it being easy for the average Kazaa user. It takes a little getting used too, so DC in itself turns lots of people away. I'm guessing teenie bops, the stupid , and the lazy. Which brings me back to point 1, because teenie bops, stupid and lazy people aren't the ones building collections of files.

5) Someone mentioned that the average D/L speed is around 20-30 KB/s. I suppose thats a fair statement, but it dosen't have to be. When I D/L a file thats around 600mb or so I don't settle for less than 80 kb/s unless its is a rare file. Granted it takes you a little longer to find someone with the file at that speed. Sometimes an extra 30 mins. of searching, and thats streching it. The plus is you save hours of D/L time, and thats not streching it.

In short DC really does rock, but your not going to know it by trying it out for a couple of hours. Like most things good you do have to invest some time. Hope this helps, if it does I'll see ya there.

-Jizz
p74c380@yahoo.com

Try DC++ you will have a much more plesant experience on the DC network... cheers

[notbob]

dc++ IS dc now--there is no distinction anymore

neomodus is just a sack of crap (i say ban it fom hubs)

[Bmonk]

y is that? imo DC++ suxorz cuz it somehow slows my dl speed like hell... other than that sure if ur in more than 1 hub u need to give up extra slots, but some leecher can just stuff their slots up and then come to a second one and leech like hell. well i've seen that alot

when u come across a nice hub with decent size with like 20-40 population(practically any more user than that u'll start getting leechers) that every1 shares good stuff there is no need to be in more than 1 hub.(well u can always open another normal DC if u want to)

and if ur running a hub ur self and is worried bout leechers, then make ur hub registered user only and that way u get no leecherz, garantueed.(well i'm currently doing that)

[Ken17625]

Have a good share.

Have a broadband connection(some may disagree with me and maybe rightfully so).

And have MoSearch/GloSearch handy.

You are then good to go.

[Undermind]

I like it for the most part, but I get frustrated when hubs get too damn anal about stuff, if they are going to be super anal then just go private, otherwise STFU, eg. I am pro-share, anti-leech all the way and I have a good amount of trance albums to share both from downloads and personal collection, so I go into a psy hub with only about 15 full psy albums (and all my other stuff), but they are asking for only 10 and that they be sorted, so I have my stuff sorted in a trance folder as albums, along w/ a lot of trance singles, and logically they are all in alphabetical order, what more do they want? I leave my comp to do its thing only to come back to recieve a message from some op saying that I am banned for not having 10 albums and not being sorted and to "read the fucken rules!!!" What kind of crap is this where they alienate people who only want to be able to build up their collection and then continue to share it, this has happened to me twice and honestly it is frustrating as all hell, 'cuz I know that I am not a leech and I only want to share and find more new music/genres as I go along, but yet I am getting treated like one