BT Dedicated Server/Seedbox

[sooti]

NOT WRITTEN BY ME, BUT VERY USEFUL INFO


Over the past few months ive noticed alot of users interested in purchasing seedboxes, and i think its great alot of users are this into seeding and uploading at torrent sites so i made this thread to help them make the right choice when purchasing a Seedbox/Dedicated Server[/SIZE]

BT Server/Seedbox



FAQ

What is a Dedicated Server? A dedicated hosting service, dedicated server, or managed hosting service is a type of Internet hosting where the client leases an entire server not shared with anyone.

What is a Seedbox? Is bittorrent terminology for a dedicated server that is used to upload and download torrents. Seedboxes are usually purchased by uploaders and torrent communities to get the latest content at high speeds.

How do I use the dedicated server/seedbox? A Dedicated Server/Seedbox is very simple to use, once you have purchased and fully paid for the dedicated server/seedbox, the service provider will send you the following:
The Server IP Address
The Server Username
The Server Password
Using these things you can log on to your server using remote desktop.
You can download RDP at: Download Here (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/tools/rdclientdl.mspx)
(Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) is a multi-channel protocol that allows a user to connect to a computer running Microsoft Terminal Services.) You can access remote desktop on your Windows PC by going to:

On your home computer, click Start, point to All Programs, and then point to Accessories.
In the Accessories menu, point to Communications, and then click Remote Desktop Connection.
Then type the IP Address for the Server provided by the Hosting company, click connect and you will be taken to a log in screen, similar to the OS the server is running. Log in and that is it, you now have access to your server.


Hosting Companies


Dediboxes

What is a dedibox? A dedibox(s) are dedicated server that are hosted by Dedibox.fr. Dediboxes are dedicated servers that you have root access to but the network on which it is connected is shared. Dediboxes are connected to a supposed 300Gbit network, but due to the many subscribers, dediboxes which are advertised as 100Mbit Unmetered will only guarantee you 30Mbit Unmetered. The only time users report reaching 100Mbit Speeds is while connection to another user on the dedibox network.

Dedibox.fr Resellers/Affiliates:

Dediboxinternational.com
Giga-International.com
BestofData.com
Dedihostplus.com(there are more, but these are the main resellers/affiliates)


Dedibox.fr

» CPU VIA 2Ghz - 1024 MB RAM - Hard drive with a 160 GB capacity
» 100Mbit/Sec unmetered bandwidth.
» Several Operating systems available (Ubuntu-Server, Debian, Fedora, OpenSuse 10.1, Mandriva, Gentoo 2006, CentOS 4.2, Slackware 10.2, FreeBsd, NetBsd, OpenBsd)
» Some desktop software (Ubuntu-Desktop Dapper, Kubuntu-Desktop Dapper, Xubuntu-Desktop Dapper)
» Unlimited technical support
» Remote manager
» 5Go Security Backup
» Own Server Monitoring
» automatic material diagnosis
» Rescue system

29.99 € /Month

Dediboxinternational.com

» CPU VIA 2Ghz - 1024 MB RAM - Hard drive with a 160 GB capacity
» 100Mbit/Sec unmetered bandwidth.
» Several Operating systems available (Ubuntu-Server, Debian, Fedora, OpenSuse 10.1, Mandriva, Gentoo 2006, CentOS 4.2, Slackware 10.2, FreeBsd, NetBsd, OpenBsd)
» Some desktop software (Ubuntu-Desktop Dapper, Kubuntu-Desktop Dapper, Xubuntu-Desktop Dapper)
» Unlimited technical support
» Remote manager
» 5Go Security Backup
» Own Server Monitoring
» automatic material diagnosis
» Rescue system
45.00 €/Month *Note Price Changes Often

Giga-International.com

They advertise I Quote "All dedicated servers rented by our customers are located in the high-tech-metropolis Frankfurt, Germany." But after talking with a customer one selection of their servers are infact hosted in France, even while uploading and downloading a torrent their host name is shown as Dedibox.fr.

Dedicated Server M

Hard disk: 80 GB
CPU: Intel Celeron 2.4 Ghz
RAM: 1024 MB
Traffic: UNLIMITED

Price: 59.99 EUR / month


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Dedicated Server L eco

Hard disk: 160 GB
CPU: AMD Athlon64 3800+
RAM: 1024 MB
Traffic: UNLIMITED

Price: 64.99 EUR / month

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Dedicated Server L

Hard disk: 160 GB
CPU: P4 3 Ghz HT Technology
RAM: 1024 MB
Traffic: UNLIMITED

Price: 69.99 EUR / month

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Dedicated Server XL

Hard disk: 250 GB
CPU: P4 3 Ghz HT Technology
RAM: 2048 MB
Traffic: UNLIMITED

Price: 79.99 EUR / month

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Dedicated Server XXL

Hard disk: 500 (2 x 250) GB
CPU: 6.0 Ghz Intel Xeon (2 x 3.0 Ghz)
RAM: ECC 4096 MB
Traffic: UNLIMITED

Price: 149.99 EUR / month

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Bestofdata.com

GENERAL INFOS:
Processor: VIA C7 2.0 GHZ
Disk space: 160GB SATA2
RAM: 1GB DDR2 400MHZ
Bandwidth: 100Mbps Unmetered
Managed: NO

PLAN PRICES:
Monthly - : $59.95
No hidden costs, No setup fees, Free support
30 Minute activation (When servers are in stock)
Windows Server 2003 Web Edition: $20 / month
Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition: $30 / month
Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition: $45 / month
DirectAdmin control panel available for Debian, CentOS & Fedora: $14 / month
Additional HDD, RAID0 or RAID1 (Debian & Ubuntu only): $20 / month

ADDITIONAL DETAILS
Full Root access.
2 free OS reloads per a month.
Rescue mode (A small network OS where you can make changes to the partition, OS, etc...)
Automatic reboots via web interface.
Web MRTG.


Dedihostplus.com
*Note Windows OS is included

France Unmetred Box
100mbit Unmetred
160gig hard disk
1024mb DDR2 Ram
VIA C7 2Ghz
$100 Per Month


Dual hard disk box
100mbit Unmetred
2x 160gb hard disk (Combined 300gb)
1024mb DDR2 ram
Via C7 2.0ghz
$120 Per Month

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Note: For all Dediboxes, fee apply if you want to run a Windows OS, they only provide linux OS free.

Also note that these Dediboxes are not that strict about running torrents, but if they catch you due to excessive use or abuse of bandwidth they will close your dedibox without refund.

Dediboxes also have random checks and police raids.

Ive Had Dediboxinternationa, Bestofdata, GigaInternational and Dedihostplus, if you enable encryption and keep the bw below 3TB a month it gives you a better chance under to keep under the radar.


DEDICATED SERVERS/SEEDBOXES

The Following are my Top 5 Choices for Best Dedicated Servers.

NUMBER 5: Shinjiru (http://shinjiru.com/)

Offshore dedicated Hosting, these servers get great speeds, but not lately due to the natural disaster in Taiwan, so for the next couple weeks connection to North America wont be as good. But once repaired this server is one of the best ive used. Especially Since its hosted in Malaysia were there are no Copyright Laws :D

If you want a reliable cheap server with peace of mind from police, etc Then Shinjiru is for you. Dedicated Servers (http://shinjiru.com/products/dedicated_hosting/index.htm)


Server: 3/5
Network: 2.5/5 (normally superb speeds)

Number 4: Vector.Info (https://www.vectoral.info/)

I personally havent used this company, but i have heard nothing but great things from them. They too offer cheap, reliable servers at competitive prices.

Dedicated Servers (https://www.vectoral.info/servers/servers.php)

Server: 3.5/5
Network: 3.5/5


Number 3: L A Y E R E D T E C H (http://layeredtech.com/)

Hmm, layered tech one of the best server that i have ever used, i dont think there was a time i didnt max out my speed, with their 100Mbit i could easily reach 11-12 mb/s. They have a great turn around time, i got my server in less than 5, 6 hours.

Dedicated Servers (http://www.layeredtech.com/servers.shtml)


Server: 4.5/5
Network: 5/5


Number 2: S O F T L A Y E R (http://www.softlayer.com/)

This is probably one of the best server that i have ever used, Softlayer is the best of the best, nothing more to say, maxed out connections 24/7. Note Softlayer is the most expensive server ive purchased only because i upgraded to a higher bandwidth and network speed. You have got to purchase one to know how amazing their server and network is, the speeds are phenomenal and the service is phenomenal. This is why ScT, FTN, FSC, all Top site uploaders and torrent sites purchase SoftLayer, because your getting what you paid for.

Server: 5/5
Network: 5/5

Number 1: L E A S E W E B (http://www.leaseweb.com/index.php)

This is the best hosting company, why else would torrent sites such as TL and SCC host there. They provide excellent support and excellent dedicated Server service. They have top-notch servers with one of the best network, you will get great speeds no matter what.

Dedicated Servers (http://www.leaseweb.com/index.php?p=dedicated)

Server 5/5
Network 5/5

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Well i hope you had as much fun reading as i did writing and i hope this helps you make the right server choice.
For More Information also check WebHostingTalk Forums (http://webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2)they have great info and many users that can answer your questions if im not available.

[troyk1]

I was here a few days ago and there was like 90 pages of discussion on this topic.... what happened to it all? am I just going crazy?

[GuyFawks]

You could have said Filesharingtalk is your resource and linked it instead of posting the entire tutorial.

[beyond23]

nice one guyfawks

[p2pguru]

I have servers in Netherlands, Sweden and Germany and I truly recommend them!

[martial_arts_torrents]

what countries are the LEAST likely to care??? What countries simple dont give a shit?

[robincheema]

well Sweden is a good place to get started.

[badrix]

WOW!!! thanks sooti for the info!!

[baksteen]

i have a server in the us but i live in europe. i think that list of the top five should be updated. there are some very good new hosts that should be on there

[martial_arts_torrents]

so baksteen, what hosts are good in your opinion?

[baksteen]

Well giga-international seems have have exceptional plans, but apparently they have capped there speeds to 1.4mb/s or something really low which isnt really worth too much. and verctoral is definitely not cheap, and their customer service suchs completely, i have had some friends which have trouble with Shinjiru as well.

there are a few new ones on the block, erm there is softlayer, they are apparenly pretty good, ill just make a list what i have heard

softlayer - http://www.softlayer.com/servers.html
hivebox - http://www.hivebox.net
hosting-ie - www.hosting-ie.com
rapidswitch - http://www.rapidswitch.com/
OVH - http://www.ovh.com/en/dedie/
keyweb - http://english.keyweb.de/vrsrds/vrs.shtml

they are only a few, hope it helps :)

[manakazero]

I've used hivebox. It's OK but definitely oversold. OVH is only for France and a few other countries in EU. Softlayer is great I hear, but kind of expensive to use just for seeding.

[GuyFawks]

http://info.library.unsw.edu.au/psl/skills/direct/itet_lilt/module3/images/plagiarism.GIF

And where did you get this from?

Oh thats right... here


http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-guides-and-tutorials-65/t-filesharing-bt-dedicated-serverseedbox-152272

[baksteen]

thats why i said you should update it lol

[markupmaster]

There a massive list of seedboxe links found at Http://www.Torrent-Source.net


:)

[HelenaP]

setup time 5 minutes to 5 days depending on space

all payments made via paypal
contact Revhead via
http://www.rev-headz.com
http://www/mad-jack.com
http://vip.mad-jack.com

seedboxes u can afford to pay for

all seedboxes use utorrent webu


...
55.00 gbp{sterling} per/month

25.00 1 time Setup Fee

You have been reported-
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=537224&postcount=38

[klekle]

Hey I have a seedbox company.

Add my msn: funnykle@hotmail.com

Or go to my site using my Url:
http://www.torrentswift.com/clients/link.php?id=1
U can also use my cuppon to get a $5 discount!

we have a few posts on forums around the internet...

msg me anything.

[seedboxworld]

www.seedboxworld.com come and check out our torrent accounts..

[HelenaP]

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z188/funnypicforTP/ban-hamster.jpg

[seedboxworld]

banned for what its thread about seedboxes aint it?

[HelenaP]

banned for what its thread about seedboxes aint it?

You're spamming it . No need to look for every single thread that has "seedbox" in the title.

[tastyweat]

New seedbox host!

Special offers, first 100 sign-ups only.

Best seedboxes around, great prices. Unlike most services, I tell you exactly what to expect & you get exactly what you pay for!

- 20GB Storage, 15 torrent limit on 10mbit connection - £9/$18/13Euro per month
- gets approx 3TB transfer

- 50GB Storage, 30 torrent limit on 20mbit connection - £18/$36/26Euro per month
- gets approx 6TB transfer

- 100GB Storage, unlimited torrents on 40mbit connection - £27/$54/39Euro per month
- gets approx 12TB transfer

- 200GB Storage, unlimited torrents on 75mbit connection - £40/$80/60Euro per month
- gets approx 22TB transfer

- Dedicated managed server with 400GB Storage, unlimited torrents on 100mbit connection - £60/$120/90Euro

- Trial accounts available, 1 torrent with 10GB transfer on shared 100mbit connection - £1

All come with FTP and HTTP access & UTorrent Web UI

Many more configurations on offer… will be any competing deal!

Contact me:

- tastyweat.filesite@gmail.com
- Skype - tastyweat
- MSN - jjm106@soton.ac.uk
- Google Talk - tastyweat.filesite@gmail.com
- Yahoo - tastyweat.filesite
- ICQ - 357744780
- Forum - http://www.jonmacrae.co.uk/forum

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details of servers:

Each server is 2.53GHz Dual Core (Core2) Xeon, 3GB Ram on dedicated 100mbit connections.

All subscriptions are load balanced to provide exactly what you pay for and to get the best performance from your package.

For example… per server there could be 1×40mbit package, 2×20mbit packages and 2×10mbit packages. Yet… say the person on the 40mbit package is only using 10mbit, the other packages are able to access that spare 30mbit and as soon at the 40mbit package wants all 40mbit, it goes straight back to them!

You may be wondering how I can offer such a good service for such a good price, when others will put a lot more people on the same connections. It’s simple… a friend of mine runs a rather large datacentre company and has a lot of servers and bandwidth sitting there doing nothing at the minute… as long as the costs for power are covered, may as well use the servers and bandwidth!

Soon to come… Dual Quad-Core Xeon servers with 16GB RAM & GBit connections!

[Carlpb]

http://eliteseedbox.com/images/hosting/banner_150x300.png (http://hosting28.eliteseedbox.com)

50Gb hard drive
Unlimited Bandwidth
Fast speeds(over 3mb/s sustained)
€42.50

20Gb hard drive
500gb Bandwidth
Fast speeds(over 3mb/s sustained)
€23.50

http://hosting28.eliteseedbox.com

Other Plans available

[thelastfreeman]

Too expensive

[walkerofdoom]

Too expensive

I agree, who wants to spend 100 bucks a month just so they can download files earlier and faster on big sites? If you ask me you'd be better off just buying the damn movies XD

[thelastfreeman]

Spending a hundred bucks is fine but the plans just suck that's all, talking about Carlpb's prices in particular. Tastyweat's plan isn't bad, I've seen decent reviews on another forum. Too bad he was a one time poster.

[walkerofdoom]

so what is the best then? This thread was started a while ago, someone ought to update it

[viper151]

better are seedplace.eu and seedhost.eu

Seedplace has dedicated with the money you are offering for 50 gb hdd and seedhost the same as you but with 20 euros.

[walkerofdoom]

Awesome, will check out

[Tachyonn]

any of you learned people have experience with hosting-ie.com ?

I'm kind of bewildered by the many conflicting reviews, opinions and recommendations at the various file sharing/webhosting forums ...
the available lists are not exactly current and things change within a few month, not to mention within a year's time

I'm looking for a dedi box. suitable as a seedbox

[utorrent1236]

i myself tried some company seedboxworld but they scammed me with 5mbit upload speeds and no support at all , so i was very disapointed but then found some other place wich seems the best for now , been using 2 months my server from www.seedhost.net and they are just great , very good support and top level service , very recommended.

[mikkoc]

ovh is the way to go if you want a seedbox

[seedboxworld]

http://www.seedboxworld.com

check these out

[kippies]

i myself tried some company seedboxworld but they scammed me with 5mbit upload speeds and no support at all , so i was very disapointed but then found some other place wich seems the best for now , been using 2 months my server from www.seedhost.net and they are just great , very good support and top level service , very recommended.



http://www.seedboxworld.com

check these out


Nothing like spamming a thread youve already been slated in....

spammers spamming spammers LMFAO



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[nirROMyug]

I got a dedicated seedbox. Only problem is that your limited by your Residential cablem modem sockets. So the maximum sockets your ISP will allow is the maximum your dedicated seedbox will deliver regardless of what you get if your using the modem. I've learned this the hard way twice in one month with two different companies and getting information from websites and forums.

If you live in the united states or in many countries, you have to have unlimited connection, this does not mean unlimitd speed. How many people you can connect to. My ISP only allows you to connect to 65 Max and they call it fair use.

Beyond that you need to upgrade to a business cable modem. They uncap the 65, give you crappy speeds but you now are able to use the dedicated server seedbox without any problems.

Only problem is that the speed of a dedicated 100Single down and 30up to match is will cost me $189 bucks and its nothing but a firmware upgrade and a business class modem (Linksys WRVS4400N). So I would be out of my mind to pay the $60 for the seed and $189 for the modem from the ISP for unlimited sockets.

So if your bouncing around 500K upload but getting 10-12MB/s downloads, then you are just like me right now.

[kelchm]

I got a dedicated seedbox. Only problem is that your limited by your Residential cablem modem sockets. So the maximum sockets your ISP will allow is the maximum your dedicated seedbox will deliver regardless of what you get if your using the modem.

You clearly don't understand how to use your seedbox.

[nirROMyug]

Actually I do and have been verified by the companies. Time Warner, The ISP itself, a company selling a product that would "Bypass this problem" and a third which actually talked to me about what it was thats going on. You maybe lucky enough not to have a modem with a connection cap issue or to be more technical, Time warner blocks the GRE protocol #47. So instead of burbing out a random statement, say something that would be useful and not from someone who actually did the work by picking up phone calls and not just reading forums and anecdotal evidence.

[kelchm]

Actually I do and have been verified by the companies. Time Warner, The ISP itself, a company selling a product that would "Bypass this problem" and a third which actually talked to me about what it was thats going on. You maybe lucky enough not to have a modem with a connection cap issue or to be more technical, Time warner blocks the GRE protocol #47. So instead of burbing out a random statement, say something that would be useful and not from someone who actually did the work by picking up phone calls and not just reading forums and anecdotal evidence.

This really doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.

How does any property of your home connection have *anything* to do with your seedbox?

[nirROMyug]

Then I suggest you take Seedbox survey course 010 starting this spring. Because that statement tells me you clearly are out of your league.

[nirROMyug]

I'll elaborate for you since you think a seedbox has nothing to do with your ISP.

Many companies are blocking whats called GRE Protocol 47. This is the protocol used to send encrypted data to the PPTP/ VPN servers. This port is controled by the ISP side and you have no control over it and it probably says in your TOS that VPN are not permitted. also known as seedboxes.

[Mels_Smileys45]

You are taking this way off base for some reason. Its not that difficult to rent a server to host content for you and anyone can send information to a server without worrying what their ISP thinks. Why youre talking about VPN is beyond me. I think your definition of "seedbox" must be different from everyone elses. Are you talking about owning your own dedicated PC used as a server from your house? Or are you saying all this has to do with when the rented server binds your IP address to the seedbox? I am confused here.

[nirROMyug]

the problem is that what companies fail to tell customers is that in the TOS of a client ISP, VPN's are against the rules. Same would apply for a seedbox. Either way, when you walk in the virtual world and drop your money down and ask for a seedbox. its going to access a gui interface. that interface is whats limiting the ability to get maximum throughput. Clear and dry. IP within an IP. Inability to disable and forward port 1723 and a cap on your "residential modem to max connections of X amount regardless of this. Shall we talk about business edition new modem uncapped connections and then your seedbox will work. We can talk about tunnels or microip's on servers but its just compointing the problem just to have a seedbox. we are all going to need it very very soon when these lame ass caps on broadband get implemented. Soon enough I see a darn underground internet happeneing because we are so prime right now with the shitty economy and the western nations (asians) especially getting extreme speeds at extremely low prices. I'd just purchase five over there and send them here as boxes and profit off it.

[kelchm]

Honestly, I think you must be seriously confused.

The seedbox is making all the connections, your home connection has nothing to do with that at all.

Sounds to me like you are trying to use your seedbox like a proxy. I don't see how a VPN comes into play at all. All you need to do is SSH/VNC (or use a HTTP web UI) into your seedbox to control the torrent software and use FTP to download files to your home system. Those sorts of things most definitely do not violate the TOS.

What the hell are you trying to do exactly?

[Mels_Smileys45]

Really confused! He is not talking about the same thing obviously or is just trolling to confuse new people.

[kelchm]

Really confused! He is not talking about the same thing obviously or is just trolling to confuse new people.

yep. I agree.

[nirROMyug]

If you do a very, very, very, very simple search on this thing called the internet, and search TOS and VPN, you will find that it violates your ISP contract. Go ahead, give it a try.

And nope, I'm confusing nobody, you cannot use a residential ISP for other services such as VPN. Many companies like time warner and Comcast are now blocking the protocol so that you can not use your home "base" as a business even though we like to call it a seedbox.

I know what I"m talking about. I have a brother who works for iodigital cable. I don't even use thier service and asked him about it. They watch their usage over the IP. Regardless of how its encrypted and undectectable. And mind you not based via GUI http like the ever changing avatar dude is stating.

Your only bet is to get dialup which is totally unblocked and access that way. That will get you unrestricted flow back and forth.

[kelchm]

If you do a very, very, very, very simple search on this thing called the internet, and search TOS and VPN, you will find that it violates your ISP contract. Go ahead, give it a try.
I think you have missed the point of a seedbox completely. :icon_clow

[Mels_Smileys45]

I don't know if you are just trollong for an argument nirROMyug but maybe you should Google what a "seedbox" is before telling people about their terms of service contract.

If I had a seedbox I would upload a file from my pc to my rented server (the seedbox) owned my any number of hosting services, not from my ISP, where the BT community would then access the content, there by circumventing any contract I have of running a server from my home.

[mountain_rage]

If you do a very, very, very, very simple search on this thing called the internet, and search TOS and VPN, you will find that it violates your ISP contract. Go ahead, give it a try.

And nope, I'm confusing nobody, you cannot use a residential ISP for other services such as VPN. Many companies like time warner and Comcast are now blocking the protocol so that you can not use your home "base" as a business even though we like to call it a seedbox.

I know what I"m talking about. I have a brother who works for iodigital cable. I don't even use thier service and asked him about it. They watch their usage over the IP. Regardless of how its encrypted and undectectable. And mind you not based via GUI http like the ever changing avatar dude is stating.

Your only bet is to get dialup which is totally unblocked and access that way. That will get you unrestricted flow back and forth.

Um... I was running a VPN to secure my VNC connection between my Palm T|X and desktop over the internet. So, they actually don't block the protocol, and if they did you could encrypt it and they would not know. So I have to conclude that you are an ill informed, sociopath.

[nirROMyug]

I don't know if you are just trollong for an argument nirROMyug but maybe you should Google what a "seedbox" is before telling people about their terms of service contract.

If I had a seedbox I would upload a file from my pc to my rented server (the seedbox) owned my any number of hosting services, not from my ISP, where the BT community would then access the content, there by circumventing any contract I have of running a server from my home.



That is a 1000% false statement. Your connect is wholely dependent on your ISP connection. Its called maximum connections. You think that just because a seedbox is at some foreign country, the ISP does not have control over the box and throttles it? You are sorely mistaken and need to take a very big step back and find out about what a seedbox is.

People are being sold seedboxes without knowing that ISP's are blocking the ports that they use. You can talk your hear out about circumventing the protocol but its only short term and the bandwith usage is still found. Regardless if the seedbox is hosted independent of the ISP.

Familiarise yourself with protocols especially those in the 40's. IP forwarding blocked on the back end of the ISP will not allow you unlimited speeds contrary to few are talking about. Its the big thing. Stop writing on this site and check out DSL reports and familarize yourself with VPN's and ISP's and your so called "nothing to do with one another" When you get a lawsuit, you will know. I learned the hard way by not purchasing a business class modem. Independent of the VPN. Indpendent of the ISP speed but 100% controlled by the ISP IF you don't become a business class customer. Its a backdoor that everyone is shuting down in favor of bandwith capping, or I should say, in leu of.

Not everyone is affected right now which is why you make this statement making me look like a fool on here but call your ISP provider, or better yet just wait till the day the seeding becomes dwindled down to a max of 500KB/s upload and you wonder why...

Don't call your ISP because they will ask you what your doing. Thats my pearl for the evening

Just a few links to remind you of my "i dont know what i'm talking about"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289892 (protocols used)
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20299429-OOL-optonline-boost-ipsec-vpn-throttled
http://forum.vuze.com/thread.jspa?threadID=62819&tstart=0
http://pervices.com/docs/throttling_tech_brief.pdf (how to bypass throtting VPN's) why do they have this big document???

Interesting stuff for someone full of shit:devil2

[mountain_rage]

That is a 1000% false statement. Your connect is wholely dependent on your ISP connection. Its called maximum connections. You think that just because a seedbox is at some foreign country, the ISP does not have control over the box and throttles it? You are sorely mistaken and need to take a very big step back and find out about what a seedbox is.

People are being sold seedboxes without knowing that ISP's are blocking the ports that they use. You can talk your hear out about circumventing the protocol but its only short term and the bandwith usage is still found. Regardless if the seedbox is hosted independent of the ISP.

Familiarise yourself with protocols especially those in the 40's. IP forwarding blocked on the back end of the ISP will not allow you unlimited speeds contrary to few are talking about. Its the big thing. Stop writing on this site and check out DSL reports and familarize yourself with VPN's and ISP's and your so called "nothing to do with one another" When you get a lawsuit, you will know. I learned the hard way by not purchasing a business class modem. Independent of the VPN. Indpendent of the ISP speed but 100% controlled by the ISP IF you don't become a business class customer. Its a backdoor that everyone is shuting down in favor of bandwith capping, or I should say, in leu of.

Not everyone is affected right now which is why you make this statement making me look like a fool on here but call your ISP provider, or better yet just wait till the day the seeding becomes dwindled down to a max of 500KB/s upload and you wonder why...

Don't call your ISP because they will ask you what your doing. Thats my pearl for the evening

Just a few links to remind you of my "i dont know what i'm talking about"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289892 (protocols used)
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20299429-OOL-optonline-boost-ipsec-vpn-throttled
http://forum.vuze.com/thread.jspa?threadID=62819&tstart=0
http://pervices.com/docs/throttling_tech_brief.pdf (how to bypass throtting VPN's) why do they have this big document???

Interesting stuff for someone full of shit:devil2

What you are not realizing is that people are not talking about the connection between you and the seedbox, they are talking about how your seedbox will perform. You let the seedbox upload and download the files for you, than you connect to the server and get the files you had requested. The only time you could be capped is when you are downloading from that server, and that is no different than any standard html protocol. So unless you are running a seedbox in your home, your ISP has nothing to do with it.

[nirROMyug]

This is the only time you are limited by your SPEED!!!!!!!!!!!


Holy shit. This whole thread is a cherry picker. When you are on your VPN, you are limited by your maximum connections your ISP gives you.


My last comment here because obviously not everyone has been affected by it yet. Good luck getting the 1gbit on a residential modem and see how welll it works when your ISP blocks the protocol's. and limits the maximum connections wholey. You'll be asked to become a commercial subscriber and triple the cost of your connection speed just to have an uncapped modem in terms of protocols and connections.


I feel like taking a yard stick and slapping everyones asses because they are oblivious to whats coming. Truely amazing. Just keep trying your Microsoft Ip6toIp4 tunnels and proxys that won't do shit.


Peewee's word of the day, bandwith shaping. You'll love it when you reup your seedbox and find out what i'm so full of shit from these replies.


What, getting personal, is referring to is when the files are on the seedbox seeding? Incorrect. You are limited by the maximum connections your ISP gives you. You may get a bump beyond lets say in my case 65 connections, then its trottled back down. connect to all 65, then you get some speed but when protocols are blocked, then regardless of the maximum connections, you will only see a fraction of your potential upload speed.

If you want to get even more technical. Its a math equasion based on your ISP speed and connections. I have 20Mb download so my downloads on the gigabit is maxxed at 11.2MB/s or so. But my upload is only 1Mb so if all 65 connections are there, i'm still looking at 500KB/s upload due to the ISP.

Don't believe its up to you.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Why don't you use something simple like https://www.relakks.com/?cid=gb

I still think youre a very confused individual.

[mountain_rage]

This is the only time you are limited by your SPEED!!!!!!!!!!!


Holy shit. This whole thread is a cherry picker. When you are on your VPN, you are limited by your maximum connections your ISP gives you.


My last comment here because obviously not everyone has been affected by it yet. Good luck getting the 1gbit on a residential modem and see how welll it works when your ISP blocks the protocol's. and limits the maximum connections wholey. You'll be asked to become a commercial subscriber and triple the cost of your connection speed just to have an uncapped modem in terms of protocols and connections.


I feel like taking a yard stick and slapping everyones asses because they are oblivious to whats coming. Truely amazing. Just keep trying your Microsoft Ip6toIp4 tunnels and proxys that won't do shit.


Peewee's word of the day, bandwith shaping. You'll love it when you reup your seedbox and find out what i'm so full of shit from these replies.

People are paying a hosting company to run seeds, this is what people are calling a seedbox. Its a hosting company, with its own server, and its own connection. You are basically renting server space and using it to seed, increasing your ratio. What you are referring to is residential capping which everyone knows exist, but it does not affect your seedbox as it has nothing to do with your ISP. The only time your ISP comes into play is when you upload/download files from your seedbox host. There is no way for the ISP to block your seedbox from sending or receiving files from other users, and they cannot cap that connection. They can cap your connection to the seedbox, and in a very unlikely situation block access to the seedbox all together which would have to include any and all protocols.

Look at how the connection is related, you upload to the seedbox, it uploads to users. Users download to your seedbox, and you download from the seedbox.

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=34

[Mels_Smileys45]

I am guessing, and its hard to cipher from that jumbled mess, that he is saying when you forward your IP address to the seedbox, the ISP can then throttle your connections to the tracker because you use that IP address? I am not sure about that but like the site I listed a few posts up says, you do not have to use the IP address the ISP gives you.

[nirROMyug]

People are paying a hosting company to run seeds, this is what people are calling a seedbox. Its a hosting company, with its own server, and its own connection. You are basically renting server space and using it to seed, increasing your ratio. What you are referring to is residential capping which everyone knows exist, but it does not affect your seedbox as it has nothing to do with your ISP. The only time your ISP comes into play is when you upload/download files from your seedbox host. There is no way for the ISP to block your seedbox from sending or receiving files from other users, and they cannot cap that connection. They can cap your connection to the seedbox, and in a very unlikely situation block access to the seedbox all together which would have to include any and all protocols.

Look at how the connection is related, you upload to the seedbox, it uploads to users. Users download to your seedbox, and you download from the seedbox.

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=34


Well, if you have time warner ISP, and you do a netstat -ano you will realize that residental customers have every single port blocked. You can do whatever you what to port forward it but it won't happen. By port blocked, I mean the key protocol's for VPN or VPS service. They insist you purchase a fucking business class modem.

So I found a lovely solution. [something] PreMod [Haxorware], because, like i've been saying before and i'll say it again, ISP are blocking this shit. I'm one of them. Haxorware will do the trick. And time warner can kiss my fucking ass. And PS, using the seedbox, VPN, whatever on a dialup that I tried this weekend worked, veryifying my story. The dialup didn't have protocols blocked but I sure as shit couldn't download it. But the "seeding" rang up to 125GB for the day.

[nirROMyug]

Why don't you use something simple like https://www.relakks.com/?cid=gb

I still think youre a very confused individual.

Boy doesn't this smell like the UK shit due to all the whining over there because they have ports blocked for such applications as TVants.

Haxorware Features:
【 Web upgrade firmware or bootloader
【 Backup & Restore BPI+ certificates
【 Full telnet & web shell access
【 Enable & Disable factory modes
【 Enable & Disable SNMP filters
【 Boot config file from flash
【 Enable & Disable BPI & BPI+
【 Backup 2MB flash & NonVol
【 Change all MACs & serial
【 Change web interface IP
【 Restore NonVol settings
【 Spoof firmware versions
【 Change SNMP server port
【 Forced network access
【 Download config file
【 Redirect SNMP traps
【 Force static HFC IP
【 Tftp enforce bypass
【 Disable IP filters
【 Force config files

That solves the problem. coming from a person sucking a banana dick

[dezza]

Hello everyone, and here is my story about Giga-International.

First I was treated nice, they replied to my emails they did what they could to satisfy me, but then after a few months, they started to reply with LONG intervals (24 hours or even more, sometimes you have to send it TWICE) ..

This is not what I interpret as 24-HOUR SUPPORT ..

Also ..

When we actually DID have problems and really needed them, the first thing I did was to write them, they then told that the software RAID1 (Which we paid 80€ for in extras) was broken, aka. one disk was broken.

Fine I said, then it should still be running, right? .. No .. One of their incompetent employees pulled out the disk, no dismounting or waiting for my permission, they BROKE the MBR, they BROKE alot of data on the disk, and we were dead with 1 week of downtime so I decided to close the server and find somewhere else.

The site had 10.000 users, 6.000 online at most of times visiting every 30 minutes.

I asked for the money back for the RAID1 and the months subscription, but they refused and said that I could pay to their PayPal for support because they did not want to spend more time with me ..

And this is where I go .. Why the heck did you start a hosting company if you cannot even maintain your own customers? What is wrong with RAID1, why does it have to be so hard for you to replace a disk, and why don't you ask for your customers permission?

After long emails with days in interval of answers they put up the system to a rescue system, I was able to transfer the files via SCP and then I am off, and glad that I am not a customer at Giga-International and never will be again !

This was the PayPal threat they sent me:

Dear Mr,

our support team has invisted hours and hours for you during the last days -
on a free basis - to make your server work again.
It is your responsibility to make backups of your data, this is also appointed
in our general terms and conditions under § 1:

(7) The responsibility for backups of his data lies with the customer, not the
provider.

Thus, all we HAD TO do was to replace the broken harddrive with a new one,
rebuild your RAID1 (or reinstall a new system) and that's it - any broken /
lost / destroyed data then is your responsibility. We're not in charge of
repairing YOUR system, YOUR files and YOUR data. You can pay us for this or
you have to do it on your own.

Though it wasn't our duty we supported you with this problem and tried to help
you as good as we can.
However, what we get from you as a "Thank you" is invectiveness and slander.

We certainly understand that you're angry because your server hasn't been
available for a long time.
But: We're not responsible for this problem, we have done everything what we
had to do and much more than that - and we're not willing to spend more time
on this problem which hasn't been caused by us, just to be attacked by you
again and again. This is a behaviour which isn't tolerated by us.

We're sure you will be able to fix this problem using your knowledge about
servers and Linux systems.
If you need our help again, just send 25 Euros per 15 minutes support time to
our paypal-account paypal-konto@giga-hosting.biz and we will immediately work
on your system and data again.

We will not refund you any money.
Thanks for your understanding.

Best regards,

Michael Bölke
Geschäftsführung / executive board

Giga-Hosting.biz GbR
Ges. Michael Bölke & Michael Herpich
Aschauer Straße 32a
81549 München
http://www.Giga-Hosting.biz (http://redirect.wooptydoo.com/?r=http://www.Giga-Hosting.biz)

E-mail: support@giga-hosting.biz
Tel.: +49 (0) 89 212 683 72
Fax: +49 (0) 89 216 658 62
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The site I was administrator at was primo-nordica.net and was closed immediately after stopping the subscription.. The reason why is because we know that peers start leaving sites after one week at maximum, so we decided to close it instead.

[Signa]

I can't help but feel there are bits missing from this story. Putting your data in the hands of a 3rd party is stupid under ANY contract, whether or not they say they will cover it. If an employee did break a raid drive, I can't see how it wasn't their fault. Also, you said you contacted them, but without those emails, I can't see how much you were or weren't badgering them. The whole story just sounds messed up.

[dezza]

They simply did not reply to the first two mails I sent them over 24 hours, after that I started to get angry of course, but all they told me was what I already knew, that the RAID1 array had broken and they had removed it without my permission.

If you want to know more just reply, but don't deny all the bad reputation they have if you type in their name in Google, not a coincidence ..

[Signa]

Hey, I do believe you, but I'm just pointing out the holes in your story. It would be nice if one of them popped in here and explained their side so I can get a clearer picture by adding the two sides together.

[dezza]

Maybe you should search for their name yourself and see how they usually do, they are probably gonna reply with a long explanation and a nice regards in the bottom.

You can be confident that they will defend their "own" interpretation of things, how do you even think business works?

Long story short, Giga-International.com is not a place worth mentioning if you need hosting.

Next time go with LeaseWeb or EasySpeedy and ditch those amateurs .. I really cannot believe that an average linux guy knows more RAID setups than they do .. Pathetic ..

And if you now feel like "Hey, but I've got my server there and it works fine" .. Good for you .. Keep paying for resaled servers from other vendors or snail your way through the net with constant traceroute timeouts and slow speed, I know how quality looks, feels, runs, and no german guy can convince me otherwise than RAID1 is not something you break by accident !! Especially not if you're a hoster ..

[p2pguru]

I use these guys http://dentoo.info/shop/

I cant complain about anything and speeds reach the promised

[NDGAARONDI]

I used seedhost.net and they were good. Bit pricey for my budget but I used the 250GB/unlimited torrents package (so I do not share with anyone else) as a 'bi-annual buffer' for a couple of months.