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Mels_Smileys45
September 9th, 2006, 12:51 AM
All those Bugs Bunny cartoons from the 40's and 50's were released in theaters. Does anyone know if they were in wide screen format? I know this is a silly question but it was on my mind and I thought I would throw it out there. I would love to see them in full wide screen if its possible.

RACKnRAIL
September 9th, 2006, 11:39 AM
All those Bugs Bunny cartoons from the 40's and 50's were released in theaters. Does anyone know if they were in wide screen format? I know this is a silly question but it was on my mind and I thought I would throw it out there. I would love to see them in full wide screen if its possible.

I am a huge fan of Bugs. I have a huge collection of bugs on my puter. Mostly the old ones. There were a few very racial ones about the Germans. I do not notice wide screen format, but these are all .mpegs. They probably have been edited to fit your screen. I do not know for sure.

I would be happy to share them with you, if you like. Do you have a favorite one? Mine, I think, there were so many good ones, was the one where bugs does the bull fight.

Mels_Smileys45
September 9th, 2006, 12:00 PM
I have a lot of banned bugs and other cartoons I got off winmx years ago. I put some up on youtube but I got banned. Thanks for the offer though. There are a bunch of racial bugs cartoons, more than just Germans. I would really like to see them in wide screen one day. It could be they no longer exist in that format.

MrBag
September 9th, 2006, 01:52 PM
The best is when bugs plays in that baseball game with all those gigantic sluggers!!

Tic3
September 9th, 2006, 05:25 PM
I have a lot of banned bugs and other cartoons I got off winmx years ago. I put some up on youtube but I got banned. Thanks for the offer though. There are a bunch of racial bugs cartoons, more than just Germans. I would really like to see them in wide screen one day. It could be they no longer exist in that format.


I don't get what everybody's problem is with WW2, Germans and Hitler. The guy existed. He was real. But now, it's like everyone bans everything that even mentions the name. "Banned" cartoons. WTF is up with that?? I was watching 'Who's Line Is It Anyway' and one of the subjects was something abotu Hitler. They censored it and wouldn't even let them say the guy's NAME on the air.

Yes, he was a bad guy. Yes he was twisted. Probably evil. But banning any reference to him is a bit ridiculous.

Sorry for hijacking your thread, Mels....In answer to your question, I don't know if there are any wide screen versions of the cartoon or not. I would think not (were movies back then even made in "wide screen"?). I dunno.

/end rant/

Tic3

Mels_Smileys45
September 9th, 2006, 05:32 PM
I have some that make fun of black people and Japanese too. I think this is OK to a point. I mean Elmer Fud looks like a white dumb ass so whats the difference? Its when they add the silly stereotypes that make people upset and offended.

Alot of the WW2 propaganda cartoons are banned because they make our country look like idiots too.


http://www.milkandcookies.com/keywords/ww2/


There are actually lots of places to watch these cartoons as theyre public domain in other countries

Atheist Icon
September 9th, 2006, 06:41 PM
sorry to hijack...

editing and banning of some of the Tom and Jerry cartoons.

Mels_Smileys45
September 9th, 2006, 06:47 PM
Dont worry, the thread went off course after the second post.

Atheist Icon
September 9th, 2006, 06:58 PM
Watched the Spirit of 1943 with Donald Duck...Freedom of Speech...a fucking joke...thats why these cartoons are banned....

Atheist Icon
September 9th, 2006, 07:14 PM
OMG...watching those films...how the hell are they offensive??

they portrayed what the world was going through for WWII..

shawners
September 9th, 2006, 07:35 PM
Why not change the aspect ratio in the divx or xvid player?
http://www.altools.net/ALTools/ALShow/Features/ChangeAspectRatios/tabid/193/Default.aspx
http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/showrelease.php3?category=DVD%20Press%20Release&ID=7074

When you have a child, maybe then you too will understand. A cartoon character is smoking a cig, one is carrying a shotgun.. The other is seducing the main character. . Its a different time when it was shown.

the great one
September 9th, 2006, 07:35 PM
I was never a big Bugs Bunny fan myself.I remember a Family Guy episode where they showed Elmer Fud shooting bugs bunny several times and then walking over to him and snapping his neck.That made me smile.

YWD67
September 9th, 2006, 07:59 PM
All those Bugs Bunny cartoons from the 40's and 50's were released in theaters. Does anyone know if they were in wide screen format? I know this is a silly question but it was on my mind and I thought I would throw it out there. I would love to see them in full wide screen if its possible.

The filming processes during the 50's and early 60's of wide view was called CinemaScope. Here is a 1954 press release announcing the use by several movie companys. One of them being Warner Brothers. The first movie in that first widescreen format was "The Robe".
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/Widescreen/dynamo8.htm

Hate to bust your bubble Mel, but here goes. There were only 3 companys who made cartoons in widescreen Cinemascope in the 50's and early 60's and neither one was the great WB.
One of them was the grand movie company MGM, the makers of the classic Tex Avery, Tom & Jerry cartoon shorts.
http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:BN0iu8F0UaMJ:www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php%3Fcontentid%3D13259+CINEMASCOPE+CARTOO NS&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3

The second was Disney with there Donald Duck short Grand Canyonscope (1954) that was released with the hit movie 20000 Leagues Under the Sea. The DD short was the first animated film in widescreen.

The 3rd was a sligthly less know company called Terrytoons, the makers of (one of my favorites)
MIGHTY MOUSE and HECKLE & JECKLE.
http://www.cartoonresearch.com/terrytoons.html

Sadly WB closed it's cartoon production doors in 1963 with out making any of the classics in the widescreen style.

It would not be until 1990 that WB would produce another animated short.
It was Box Office Bunny, staring (guess who) Bug's Bunny. It was the first animated short produced by WB that was in widescreen.

mfgbypooter
September 9th, 2006, 08:24 PM
what does having a child have to do with it, the cartoons in question were made for adults.

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Mels_Smileys45
September 9th, 2006, 08:38 PM
Thanks for answering the question YWD. I dont mind at all that they were not widescreen, I only wanted to see them if they were in that format. I am very picky. I hate to see cropped movies. I like to see them in their original format because it sucks to have a quarter of the pic cut away and pan and scan just doesnt look natural. In older movies you can lose as much as half the screen. Im glad that TV's have gone the way of wide screen.


There were several different formats like Cinemascope, which used a slightly curvered screen, there was VistaVision, Superscope and Techniscope. Then everyone switched to Panovision. All these fomrats were supposed to produce a 3D effect. I would have liked to have seen them in the theater to see how good it looked.

Mels_Smileys45
September 9th, 2006, 08:40 PM
what does having a child have to do with it, the cartoons in question were made for adults.

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I can only guess at what this hints at. Im sure I really don't want to know. lol

YWD67
September 9th, 2006, 08:42 PM
the cartoons in question were made for adults.*

That is for sure! Here is a link with some MGM animated shorts that are......... well let's just say they are slightly dated.:icon_scra
One title you might see that jumps out at you is "COAL BLACK & DE SEBBEN DWARFS".

http://www.robbiesreels.com/cartoons.htm

YWD67
September 9th, 2006, 08:58 PM
Thanks for answering the question YWD. I dont mind at all that they were not widescreen, I only wanted to see them if they were in that format. I am very picky. I hate to see cropped movies. I like to see them in their original format because it sucks to have a quarter of the pic cut away and pan and scan just doesnt look natural. In older movies you can lose as much as half the screen. Im glad that TV's have gone the way of wide screen.


There were several different formats like Cinemascope, which used a slightly curvered screen, there was VistaVision, Superscope and Techniscope. Then everyone switched to Panovision. All these fomrats were supposed to produce a 3D effect. I would have liked to have seen them in the theater to see how good it looked.

I had the great fortune to see such a film when I lived in Indiana. The movie was the great 1962 western epic, "How the West Was Won".
It was shot and showen in a 3D simulated process called Cinerama. The theater showing of a Cinerama made fim is a very involved process.
It requires three in synic projectors and a special arced screen. Here is a link discribing much of the process. Being only 5 yrs old and seeing something that mamoth left one hell of an impression on me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinerama

Mels_Smileys45
September 9th, 2006, 09:05 PM
Why can't they be bothered to give us grand movies like that these days?

Theinfamousone
September 10th, 2006, 09:46 AM
I had the great fortune to see such a film when I lived in Indiana. The movie was the great 1962 western epic, "How the West Was Won".
It was shot and showen in a 3D simulated process called Cinerama. The theater showing of a Cinerama made fim is a very involved process.
It requires three in synic projectors and a special arced screen. Here is a link discribing much of the process. Being only 5 yrs old and seeing something that mamoth left one hell of an impression on me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinerama

Was it pretty convincing? I think that 3D IMAX movies (with the 3D glasses) do a pretty decent job making things 3D but I wasn't blown away or anything, this might be a lot better.

shawners
September 10th, 2006, 01:06 PM
what does having a child have to do with it, the cartoons in question were made for adults.

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They may been for adults when they aired or was a politcal cartoon but as time changed, kids was watching them. The only reason anything gets banned is if people with children get irritated at something. Seeing how the black community or germans could not have political greatness at that time to get anything banned or removed from the air or written. They kept the icon, but cleaned it up a bit.

YWD67
September 10th, 2006, 01:25 PM
Was it pretty convincing? I think that 3D IMAX movies (with the 3D glasses) do a pretty decent job making things 3D but I wasn't blown away or anything, this might be a lot better.

No it was not as real as an IMAX but it was the size of the theater. Until the 70's there was no multi-theater, theaters. I lived in a mid sized town and had only one theater, but god what a monster it was. Next to the highschool basketball gym, it was the second largest capacity building in town including the churches.

The theater had the giant light Marquee that stuck out from the building and over hung the sidewalk to the curbline. It had the bright red crushed velvet seats that basically enveloped my entire 5 year old body back then. It had a balcony and a windowed room for mothers with cry infants. With all this the place was still huge. The attached image gives a good idea of what was need to show the film and the size of the screen.
Also check the link to the theater museum it has some real great shots of the old time 40 and 50's movie houses.
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/wingcr1.htm
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/index.htm