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[ezmech]

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[thepuzzler]

RC4 encryption is just to get around (some) ISP's traffic shaping efforts. The files you download are still plainly obvious to these peer monitoring companies. Even if you had encryption enabled when you did this, you would still have been caught.

[ezmech]

alright, thank you very much, i appreciate the quick reply

[CrashPeer44]

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[shawners]

Quit listening to the losers who suggest private sites arent safe and stop using from public sites. People time and time again are getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar at these sites. The Internet is like a big treasure island, you have to dig deeper for your treasure. If you can afford the 19.95 a month, do Usenet. If you cant, private Bit torrent sites. But not all private sites are fully private, like demonoid for starters.

[sscorpionn]

How is encryption enabled for utorrent?

[thepuzzler]

options/preferences/bittorrent/protocal encryption.

Then change it to enabled, and make sure "allow incoming legacy connections" has a check next to it. (that lets you connect to non encrypted clients).

@ shawners, it is you who are deluded if you think just because a site is private, that makes them and their users untouchable. Just because big busts aren't happening now, doesn't mean they never will.

I myself only use private sites, but I know that there is still a risk attached. As these sites rise in popularity and become the norm rather than the exception, then so too does the risk.

Almost everysite now is private, and they seem to assume that this status gives them some kind of psuedo-protection from the law.

It'll happen, and I'm ready for that, I just won't be as shocked as you when it does.

[Mels_Smileys45]

options/preferences/bittorrent/protocal encryption.

Then change it to enabled, and make sure "allow incoming legacy connections" has a check next to it. (that lets you connect to non encrypted clients).

@ shawners, it is you who are deluded if you think just because a site is private, that makes them and their users untouchable. Just because big busts aren't happening now, doesn't mean they never will.

I myself only use private sites, but I know that there is still a risk attached. As these sites rise in popularity and become the norm rather than the exception, then so too does the risk.

Almost everysite now is private, and they seem to assume that this status gives them some kind of psuedo-protection from the law.

It'll happen, and I'm ready for that, I just won't be as shocked as you when it does.


As I have a certain person on ignore I can't read what you are responding to but I can fill in the blanks easy enough. You are right on all aspects. If it was that easy to get away with illegal activity the P2P problem would have been solved years ago. One only needs to look at the private groups that have been arrested in the past to see what is ahead. An organized group of people breaking the law will get you arrested. No letter or warning, arrested. Telling people they are safe as long as they go to these member only sites is irresposible. Its organized crime and the FBI has a devoted division to track down these groups.

IMO there will be a very nasty bust coming up to scare people so bad they will no longer want to upload any illegal files. Taking sites out does not work as has become apparent. The only way to slow down the torrent is to go after the users in a manner that will make them too scared to take the risk.

Of course I could be wrong and the authorities could of said "awe the heck with it" gave up and no longer care about BT or the so called private sites. Yeah, I bet thats the case.

Whats really funny is the hate I get from speaking my opinion on this subject. Why? Its only an opinion. If you don't want to know how I feel skip it and don't worry about it. Its seems some people only want to hear all the positive and the second someone doesn't agree they are classified as the enemy. I am now in the "axis of evil" it seems.


Don't be drawn into a fuss fest Puzzler, take my word for it, common sense is a waste of time on this one.

[cjules13]

I agree with thepuzzler and Mels too. shawners is only instilling a false sense of security in himself and others by claiming private sites are safe.

[Unsueable Davey Brown]

There's some stuff I think people should get from public sites.

Specifically stuff which can't be aquired through approved methods. Stuff like the cancelled early The Inside, or the Global Frequency pilot. I believe people need access to the art. In some cases I think this is even a resposibility. That isn't an excuse to justify illicit behaviour. I honestly believe that. If they want to sue me for it, they should fill their boots. I'd love a platform to express my beliefs.

[Myrodushin]

torrentspy.com is your next problem there have been reports of hackers hired to comprimse torrentspy and get user information. private trackers ftw

[shawners]

I agree with thepuzzler and Mels too. shawners is only instilling a false sense of security in himself and others by claiming private sites are safe.

There safer then the public ones, not as safe as newsgroups. But are safer. I have never gotten a warning or in trouble. And i was in Elite torrents. So why dont you stop right there all together.

[eivioolla]

I have never gotten a warning or in trouble.

Millions of Kazaa users probably have not got a warning or trouble, does that make it safe? As long as you can get in these "private" sites just by begging an invitation on an online forum, without actually knowing anyone, they really aren't that private at all.

[Auggie2k]

Millions of Kazaa users probably have not got a warning or trouble, does that make it safe?
Of course not, he just means that if you play safe and monitor the stats of your download, then you should be good.

For example, NEVER download a torrent where the seeders out do the leeches by a ratio of more that 1:1 (unless its private)

[Mels_Smileys45]

That makes no sense at all. Monitoring the stats of your download will not do you any good whatsoever. People should be worried that private sites do not seem to be targeted by the MPAA/RIAA when they are well known and easy to get into. This is why I think some of the member supported sites are set up by the police. The MPAA/RIAA would not give a warning to people being monitored by the FBI who have already said they are going to take down private sites and even have a branch dedicated to that purpose. If that info alone doesnt concern you then greed does truely make people blind. They have found out that just taking down sites will not slow down BT, the next logical step is to take the users out.

This of course is just my opinion but please take the time to think about it and protect yourselves. Joining a well known pirate ring is the most stupid thing a person can do.

[Auggie2k]

I don't mean go crazy about monitoring them, I mean if your downloading a file that has 1000 seeders and about 100 peers then be weary cos it's mostly likely one of those fakes that are purposely spread around to take you off course.

[cjules13]

There safer then the public ones, not as safe as newsgroups. But are safer. I have never gotten a warning or in trouble. And i was in Elite torrents. So why dont you stop right there all together.

lol, ok then, I forgot you were the BT master of the universe, as well as in the know of law enforcement techniques.

[RACKnRAIL]

Talk about paranoid. I guess we have it too good here in Canada. I only know one person who's received a warning letter from their ISP. It was for d/l an HBO TV show from BT and it was a public tracker. However, here in Canada, that is only a slap on the wrist. It is extremely unlikely they will ever be subpoenaed or charged with anything.