View Full Version : Ohio Man Claims Civil Right To Have Sex With Boys.
Jared Moya
August 3rd, 2006, 07:20 AM
A suburban Cleveland man accused of sexually assaulting nine disabled boys told a judge Wednesday that his apartment was a religious sanctuary where smoking marijuana and having sex with children are sacred rituals protected by civil rights laws.
The admitted pedophile offered a surprising defense Wednesday to 74 charges of rape, drugs and pandering obscenity to minors.
Appearing in an Ohio court for a pretrial hearing, Phillip Distasio, 34, of Rocky River, Ohio, said he was a pedophile.
He told the judge, "I'm a pedophile. I've been a pedophile for 20 years. The only reason I'm charged with rape is that no one believes a child can consent to sex. The role of my ministry is to get these cases out of the courtrooms."
Distasio, a self-professed pagan friar, is representing himself on 74 charges. He said he's the leader of a church called Arcadian Fields Ministries, and that some of his congregants are among the victims in his case.
http://www.nbc10.com/news/9621055/detail.html
mfgbypooter
August 3rd, 2006, 08:12 AM
I'm no lawyer but his defense will never fly, especially in Ohio.
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uselesscrap
August 3rd, 2006, 08:35 AM
I'm no lawyer but his defense will never fly, especially in Ohio.
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The old saying "A lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client.".
Auggie2k
August 3rd, 2006, 08:35 AM
If it does fly there will be uproar because I'd go over and kick the crap out of him (the sick b*****d)
moneoa
August 3rd, 2006, 09:07 AM
yeah this guy needs to get kicked right in the nuts
mfgbypooter
August 3rd, 2006, 09:42 AM
Change his venue to Cincinnati, he'll get a fair trial there, just ask Larry Flynt.
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Jau_Peacecraft
August 3rd, 2006, 09:47 AM
People need to stop being amensiac hyprocrites. Everyone just magically forgets teens as young as 12 to 14 being either setup or taking it upon themselves to get marries at such a (compared to today) young age back in the 1600 - 1800's. I think he has a good case, but it would better fly if those he supposedly "raped" were around 12 to 14. I'm sick and tired of people thinking children are innocent, and can't make a decision about anything, because a lot of them are smart enough to know better. Im not advocating full on pedophilia, but all those pheobephiliacs (those inclined toawards the ages of 13 - 16) should be in an uproar and get their day in court.
on another note, writing this post was immensley more interesting than sitting in CA 120 learning powerpoint because pre-req's fail.
Jared Moya
August 3rd, 2006, 10:22 AM
People need to stop being amensiac hyprocrites. Everyone just magically forgets teens as young as 12 to 14 being either setup or taking it upon themselves to get marries at such a (compared to today) young age back in the 1600 - 1800's. I think he has a good case, but it would better fly if those he supposedly "raped" were around 12 to 14. I'm sick and tired of people thinking children are innocent, and can't make a decision about anything, because a lot of them are smart enough to know better. Im not advocating full on pedophilia, but all those pheobephiliacs (those inclined toawards the ages of 13 - 16) should be in an uproar and get their day in court.
on another note, writing this post was immensley more interesting than sitting in CA 120 learning powerpoint because pre-req's fail.
Yah but back then the average life span was like 30 years old.......
moneoa
August 3rd, 2006, 10:56 AM
People need to stop being amensiac hyprocrites. Everyone just magically forgets teens as young as 12 to 14 being either setup or taking it upon themselves to get marries at such a (compared to today) young age back in the 1600 - 1800's. I think he has a good case, but it would better fly if those he supposedly "raped" were around 12 to 14. I'm sick and tired of people thinking children are innocent, and can't make a decision about anything, because a lot of them are smart enough to know better. Im not advocating full on pedophilia, but all those pheobephiliacs (those inclined toawards the ages of 13 - 16) should be in an uproar and get their day in court..You have a fabulously deluded perception of the deal, first of all this is not the 1800's, the median age is not 25-30 and we dont marry our 14 year old daughters to the local magistrate anymore to cusion a family or to the farmer up the road to make babies to work the farm and feed the family.
different time and different place.
Also children are not innocent but stupid in most cases when you have the 13 year old girl planning to get
knocked up, does not mean she has the intelligence to make the decision. It just means she is dense enough
and lacks any good logic centers for doing so. Ask any teen mother and they have no good reason for having a kid.
Even if my 13 year old daughter thought my 31 year old friend was hot and they started flirting with her
you should be damn sure I would expect my friend to show better judgement than to try and get fresh with her.
teens these days have an over inflated sense of sexuality, there have always been horemones
but it has only been recently that companies market to teens and pre teeens the same way they market to adults
and alot of it is in the context of making them feel older.
What you end up with are teen guys thinking that its about getting the "bitches" and getting "Laid"
and "bling" and the sad part is aside from this there is not many intelligent youth out there anymore
Then you have 13 year old suzie wearing her push uip bra and crusted on Loreal makeup.
reading teen cosmo and talking about her tits and ass to her friends and talking about how
she wants to hook up with so and so because he is SOOOO hot and popular.
none of this is naturally how young kids think, its the perception we have fed to them,
notice there are no teens and pre-teens in marketing but young adults?
damn it sometimes children are just children and then you have sick assholes like this guy
who abuse them and then try to use the constitution to defend their sick actions.
I'm sick and tired of people thinking children are innocent, and can't make a decision about anything
while thats not what I mean it is proven that the mental processes of a child are different from an adult.
They dont process the same way adults do and thats why they talk about consent and the ability to do so
because they cannot make that decision as an adult.
as for pedophiles getting up in arms and getting their day in court?
A complete bunch of bullshit, people who intentionally prey on kids should get a foot up the ass
and keep in mind that this person in the article was molesting DISABLED CHILDREN while
smoking dope and eating munchies, there is nothing hypocritical or moral conflict in calling this guy an asshole.
Molesting disabled kids and smoking pot does not qualify as a religious right
and I still say this fucker should get his balls removed.
Jared Moya
August 3rd, 2006, 11:01 AM
Dam thats a long ass post MO'................
moneoa
August 3rd, 2006, 11:03 AM
Dam thats a long ass post MO'................
lol yeah I had a point that was simple and straight forward but I guess it turned into a bit of a tangent.
everytime I tried to consider Jau's argument I just kept thinking.....no.....thats fucked up
mfgbypooter
August 3rd, 2006, 11:22 AM
Oh they should get their day in court all right.
And then the rest of their life in prison, and not allowed in the PC unit but placed in general population.
They wouldn't last a week.
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Jared Moya
August 3rd, 2006, 04:21 PM
'I am a pedophile,' says man acting as own lawyer
CLEVELAND, Ohio (AP) -- A man accused of sexually assaulting nine boys with physical or mental disabilities told a judge that having sex with children is a sacred ritual protected by civil rights laws.
Phillip Distasio, who said he is the leader of a church called Arcadian Fields Ministries, represented himself at his pretrial hearing Wednesday. He is charged with 74 counts including rape, pandering obscenity to minors and corrupting another with drugs.
"I'm a pedophile. I've been a pedophile for 20 years," he said in Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court Wednesday. "The only reason I'm charged with rape is that no one believes a child can consent to sex. The role of my ministry is to get these cases out of the courtrooms."
Distasio said some of his congregants are among the victims in this case. Distaciois accused of molesting two disabled boys he tutored at his home and raping seven autistic boys at a Cleveland school for special-needs students where he was a teacher's aide. All but one of the victims were under 13.
A conviction on rape counts involving any of the eight younger boys would mean an automatic sentence of life in prison without parole eligibility, prosecutors said.
Distasio tried unsuccessfully in June to fire his court-appointed lawyer because he wouldn't pursue a religious freedom defense. Distasio could represent himself if the attorney remained as an adviser, Judge Kathleen Sutula said.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/03/sex.ritual.ap/index.html
.:sp00ky:.
August 3rd, 2006, 04:45 PM
told a judge Wednesday that his apartment was a religious sanctuary where smoking marijuana and having sex with children are sacred rituals protected by civil rights laws.
sorry but the guy gets respect from me for even trying that one in court lol!
Twodeer
August 3rd, 2006, 05:05 PM
I too have an aggressive streak in me. I feel the most fair thing a judge could do is put the guy in a room with the parents of the children he molested and let them decide his fate. Hopefully castration would be a minimum. I have no use for him or others like him ESPECIALLY when he wants to hide behind religion to try to justify how sick he is.
DwarfBaby
August 3rd, 2006, 09:46 PM
He favored autistic children.
Why is he going to trial. Just shoot the bastard. Even the anti-capital punishment crowd will walk away from this one without saying a word.
bobhss
August 4th, 2006, 12:11 AM
Why is he going to trial. Just shoot the bastard. Even the anti-capital punishment crowd will walk away from this one without saying a word.
Swift punishment, I like it.
SteelerBabe
August 4th, 2006, 09:03 AM
they need to neuter this piece of crap.
Kyle06
August 4th, 2006, 02:55 PM
Why is he going to trial. Just shoot the bastard. Even the anti-capital punishment crowd will walk away from this one without saying a word.
I have to agree with you on this one....
Do society a favor?
kokanezub
August 4th, 2006, 11:19 PM
disabled boys? all i have to say is why.....
they need to neuter this piece of crap.
i once knew a guy who got neuterd for fucking animals
Malakai1911
August 5th, 2006, 08:26 AM
Everyone just magically forgets teens as young as 12 to 14 being either setup or taking it upon themselves to get marries at such a (compared to today) young age back in the 1600 - 1800's.
My opinions are sexually progressive enough that I would have no problem lowering the age of consent to 16 in places that it is currently 18, and think all middle and high schools should have sex ed that teaches safe sex (as opposed to some who get only the abstinence talk), and that making vaccines like gardisil(HPV) mandatory for public school attendance is a good idea.
But... I think even if one was to successfully argue that a 12 year old boy can consent to having sex with a 30 year old man, you'd be hard pressed to argue a mentally disabled 12 year old boy could have the same level of reasoning abilities required to make the same informed decision.
mfgbypooter
August 5th, 2006, 09:11 AM
Why is he going to trial. Just shoot the bastard. Even the anti-capital punishment crowd will walk away from this one without saying a word.Yeah, he's a problem nothing a few ounces of lead can't cure.
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DwarfBaby
August 5th, 2006, 09:24 AM
disabled boys? all i have to say is why.....
i once knew a guy who got neuterd for fucking animals
WTF?
Here sparky, come here sparky, good dog, that's a good dog sparky.:icon_scra :icon_shak :icon_pale :green5 :icon_puke
Kyle06
August 5th, 2006, 09:51 AM
WTF?
Here sparky, come here sparky, good dog, that's a good dog sparky.:icon_scra :icon_shak :icon_pale :green5 :icon_puke
Heh some things are better left unanswered
Jau_Peacecraft
August 5th, 2006, 10:12 PM
i find it immensley funny somebody gotup in arms over a post of mine which took less than a minute to conjure up and was done so in the blind bordem of being in a class that teaches people how to use word and powerpoint. o well, i got one good hand now, and both arms too.
i said he would have a better case, i didn't say he would win, and I also am progressive to a point; my support extends to allowing 15 to 16 year olds a'la what soulxtc said. Granted, moneoa, your argument is pretty solid, but I'm tired of this whiny bullshit about companies, and kids nowadays whatever. im already seeing my friends' brains becoming retarded and commenting how back in the day, things were better. They were better because you were a fucking kid and were much less aware of what goes on, not because Ren and Stimpy was on (although that can easily be a factor). These whiny emo fucks that are flooding the high schools now are gonna say the exact same bullshit when they get older, despite whatever emo bs they continue on with, and the only exception willthose smart enough to see it's fucking pointless.
im guess what im advocating now is intelligence tests to allows those of the younger teenage years (14 to 16) to have sex, and have a license to do so. Because goddamn, if people aren't smart enough to stop bitching about the government and pick up a fucking blowtorch, pliars, bat, gun whatever and revolt physically, I want at least to be able to see the asian 16 year old of my dreams and see thats she intelligent enough to hold my member and apply angles for effective runtimes. /end slight sarcasm
anyways the soap is slippery and boring on this box, cant wait to see some jailbait tommarow at otakon; when facially attractive, those 16 year old gawf's can be quite tasty :D.
toodles.
Mels_Smileys45
August 6th, 2006, 06:15 AM
Why is the magic number 18 anyways? Ive often wondered that and have never came up with an answer. Do all people mature at the same rate? Hell no. You can't drink till youre 21 but at 18 its Ok for an old person to fuck the shit out said person. If the body isn't ready for sex, should puberty not come along till 18? Although I agree adults should not be seeking sex with 12 years olds, I do not think all cases are as cut and dry. What a difference a day can make, aye? A person can be illegal one day and have a birthday the next and be ready to fuck like a pornstar and no one would have an issue with it.
Tic3
August 6th, 2006, 07:40 AM
In the United States, we are conditioned all our lives to believe that 18 is some kind of magic number...that anyone who would consider having sex with someone under that age is some kind of sick, depraved monster.
"While ages from ten through to thirteen were typically acceptable in the mid-Nineteenth Century, fifteen through to eighteen had become the norm in many countries by the end of the Twentieth Century" (Wikipedia article on age of consent).
If we look at the age of consent laws in other countries, we find that the age of consent in many places is still somewhere in the range of 12 - 15. (Spain recently - within the last three our four years - raised the age of consent from 12 to 13....in Mexico, the age of consent is still 12).
In those countries where the age of consent is so low, it may be unusual for someone to have sex with a 12 or 13 year old, but it is not unheard of, nor is it a criminal act (http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm). People who are raised in those societies don't consider the participants to be depraved monsters.
Should we in the United States who are raised believing differently consider those whole societies to be sick and depraved? Should we consider, for example, that all the people who live in Spain are animals just because their society has a different age of consent that ours?
Even in our own country, some states have the age of consent as low as 14 (Missouri, Idaho, South Carolina). Should we consider anyone who lives in that state to be a pervert? Or do we only consider them a monster if they engage in what is technically legal behavior just because we don't agree with the law?
What is it about 18 that makes it such a magic number?
Now to the topic....yep, this guy is a sick and depraved monster. Not so much because of the age of the victims (although, personally, I'm not into that kinda thing)....but because the victims were disabled and apparently helpless to consent or to stop him.
tackdaddy
August 6th, 2006, 08:02 AM
i can't even believe some of your responses about age of consent. i tell you what...........if you ever have a child......lets just say a girl of 12-14............would you want a 30 year dude fucking your little girl or boy for that matter? most kids are not mature enough at a young age to make a decision that could change there life.
.:sp00ky:.
August 6th, 2006, 08:17 AM
Now to the topic....yep, this guy is a sick and depraved monster. Not so much because of the age of the victims (although, personally, I'm not into that kinda thing)....but because the victims were disabled and apparently helpless to consent or to stop him.
Good point I think we can all see the temptation of fucking a 12 year old (id make mine wear one of them kiddie spiderman outfits!) but having sex with a "special" kid damn thats just wrong it would be all making funny noises and drooling everywhere ...(like most men I guess)
Jau_Peacecraft
August 6th, 2006, 08:35 AM
hypotheticals are so easy to do, a great tactic those brainwashed will attempt to pull on others who are thinking about it. Sure I might have a daughter, and I'm sure whoever else might will one day, during their daughters lifetime, will have to reconcile the new reality of having a daughter with their own perspective. i buy this bullshit that "omg if you had a daughter you wouldnt say shit". No, I still would, because the odds of my daughter being chased after a 30 like that are very little. I'm sure I would raise my daughter to understand that this entire thing is a grey area, and she must think about.
Also that she should probably not stay out at night in certain neighboorhoods (choosing a nice place to live for her safety would probably pop into my head way before she turns 12), as Im sure i would try and teach her a little common sense (something missing in some youths and adults alike). Of course, if I actually did end up eating my current words and agreeing to what you said, then if that ever happens (unlikley) I will accept it with a grain of salt and move on.
btw I forgot he was doing this to mentally handicaped; I do have to admit that is pretty wrong. I personally dont see this whole temptation with a 12 year old; i mean they're not fully developed and arent old enough to have that classic teenage attitude to bring back memories of high school. I wouldnt imagine sex being very fun at all (with a 12 year old).
Oh yeah, gore vidal's "sex, death and money" would be an interesting read for this topic, fyi. [especially since all the sex stuff is in the beginning in case anyone is lazy].
thepuzzler
August 6th, 2006, 08:40 AM
Good point I think we can all see the temptation of fucking a 12 year old (id make mine wear one of them kiddie spiderman outfits!) Dark, that's all I'm saying spooky! Actually this whole thread is.
cheapprick
August 6th, 2006, 08:53 AM
Why is the magic number 18 anyways? Ive often wondered that and have never came up with an answer.
I've wondered that too. In this province you can join the army and die in a war at 18, but can't have a legal drink until 19.
Canada is considering lifting the legal age of consent from 14 to 16 [with an exception included for couple that are within 5 years of age]. I don't really have a problem with the action, even if it's coming from a gov't I don't support. What I find strange in comparison is some of Canada's marriage laws.
A boy of 14 can marry in Canada, for a girl she has to be 12. Most certainly don't know that. And before you start thinking we're pretty strange for making such laws remember that much of Canadian law is accepted law from England that we've just never got around to changing. Individual provinces have got around the age of marriage consent by refusing to issue marriage licences to people under 18 but if a 12 year old Canadian girl went to a country that allowed marriage Canada would recognize the marriage when she got home again. Picture that. A 52 year old man could take his 12 year old neighbor to India, have a ceremony, and come back with an offical marriage because they are both domociled in a country that recognizes 12 year old marriages. However, they couldn't legally engage in 'relations' until she turned 14. If the new law passes, 16. [However in Canada a wife cannot be forced to testify against her husband so he'd not likely get charged.]
Of people moving to Canada the rules are a little different again. Canada hold marriages of girls age 8-11 as voidable - not void. Which means that if a 9 year old 'wife' moves to Canada the marriage won't be officially recognized until she turns 12 but at that point they will recognize the marriage from the original date of marriage.
Tic3
August 6th, 2006, 09:21 AM
Yeah....I knew before I posted that there would be a high potential for misunderstanding, shock, indignation, moral outrage, whatever. So be it.
Let me clearly state, that as someone who was born and raised in the United States, that I have been raised with the belief that for me, personally, having sex with an "underage" person is wrong. No two ways about it.
i can't even believe some of your responses about age of consent. i tell you what...........if you ever have a child......lets just say a girl of 12-14............would you want a 30 year dude fucking your little girl or boy for that matter? most kids are not mature enough at a young age to make a decision that could change there life.
I DO have a child. Several of them actually, including a 13 year old AND a 14 year old. And NO, I absolutely positively would NOT want a 30 year old fucking them. Fact is, I wouldn't even want another 13 or 14 year old fucking them. These are my beliefs based on what I've been raised to belive. Would I feel the same way if I had been raised in a society or a time where the accepted age of consent was 10 or 12 or 13? Possibly. Probably not though....I really don't know. Our beliefs are shaped as much by societal acceptance as they are our own personal opinions. If sex wtih kids was considered normal by our society and we were raised to believe this our entire lives, we probably WOULD think it was ok. But that isn't what I was raised to believe, and it's not what I find acceptable.
Good point I think we can all see the temptation of fucking a 12 year old (id make mine wear one of them kiddie spiderman outfits!) but having sex with a "special" kid damn thats just wrong it would be all making funny noises and drooling everywhere ...(like most men I guess)
Can you see the temptation of fucking a 12 year old? Or are you being sarcastic? I can NOT see the temptation of having sex with a child. That wasn't my point at all. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough in my post. The fact that the victims were underage is bad in itself. The article stated "...two of Distasio's victims were so helpless they could never tell anyone what happened." This fact alone makes what he did that much worse and it doesn't matter if the victims were 10 or 30.
moneoa
August 6th, 2006, 11:26 AM
Spooky is so completely not being serious, don't worry guy.
mfgbypooter
August 6th, 2006, 09:52 PM
Are you saying african american girls are more immature than other girls their age but of a different race?
Bullshit.
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Jau_Peacecraft
August 7th, 2006, 08:29 AM
I would say they seem more immature due to their attidude, cuz I'll be honest, a lot of black girls in my high school were really huge stereotypes, and were extremeley anoyying. Of course, the amount of "gawf" white girls who were emo while in denial of knowing their daddy will buy them a BMW when they turn Sophmore were just as anoyying (although my HS didn't have much white people).
mfgbypooter
August 7th, 2006, 08:58 AM
That is still a racist statement.
ALL 13 year old girls are annoying, because they are 13, not because they are black or of some white social class.
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kokanezub
August 7th, 2006, 09:12 AM
Are you saying african american girls are more immature than other girls their age but of a different race?
Bullshit.
come on my post wasnt even offensive. i got the information off the radio in toledo . just cuz i say african americans every one freaks and all the sudden im racist. trust me , im the least racist one here. Belive that.
I would NEVER disrespect someone because of their race. I disrespect people because of who they are not their desent. Thats the problem you all have. please people open your mind.
mfgbypooter
August 7th, 2006, 09:26 AM
Oh, so that's why your post is gone, because we just aren't as open minded as you.
Bullshit.
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Jau_Peacecraft
August 7th, 2006, 10:19 AM
that's not a racist statement dipshit, since I more or less said the same fucking thing about white girls. At least say racist statements. And not all 13 year old girls are anoyying; I would know.
Giggity :D :D :D
Potato
August 7th, 2006, 10:44 AM
I see this going nowhere good....
Jared Moya
October 6th, 2006, 07:22 PM
wow, good call Tater this thread was getting way out of hand.
Lord_of_the_Dense
October 7th, 2006, 05:04 PM
wow..these past two months were horrid.