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soulxtc
July 31st, 2006, 10:25 PM
EXCLUSIVE: ABC Cancels Mel Gibson's Holocaust TV Mini-Series Because Of His DUI Anti-Semitic Slurs


EXCLUSIVE: I have learned that, because of his DUI anti-Semitic slurs, ABC canceled development with Mel Gibson's television production company on a non-fiction TV mini-series about the Holocaust that was still in the early pre-script stage. The deal had been announced late last year based on the self-published 1998 memoir of Flory A. Van Beek, a Dutch Jew whose gentile neighbors hid her from the Nazis but who lost several relatives in concentration camps, titled "Flory: Survival in the Valley of Death." Gibson (his Friday mugshot, left) was not expected to act in the 4-hour mini-series, nor was it certain that his name would even be publicly attached to the final product. But Quinn Taylor, ABC's senior vice president for movies for television, had said at the time the project was announced that the attention-getting value of having Gibson attached was a factor in greenlighting the Holocaust project. After the huge success of his The Passion of the Christ, networks and studios sought out Gibson and his Icon production company because they felt he'd reached a previously untapped spiritual audience for Hollywood entertainment.

But the attention-getting value of having Gibson attached to the Holocaust project post-DUI arrest is what got the project killed at ABC. In Tuesday's New York Times, an ABC TV network spokesperson did not connect the project’s termination to Gibson’s remarks. But I'm told by sources close to Gibson that the decision was totally ABC's, and it was because of his DUI anti-Semitic tirade, and that Gibson and his people didn't challenge it. This is the first piece of business lost by Gibson because of his arrest during which he blurted anti-Semitic slurs while drunk.

Earlier today, in an exclusive interview with me, Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean and founder of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, called on Gibson to to drop plans to produce the Holocaust mini-series for ABC. "It seems inconceivable that he should, given these cirumstances, make a film about the Holocaust. That would be like getting somebody that has a past association with the KKK to do a film on African-Americans. The African-Americans would be up in arms.

That's the way Jews feel. If you don't like the Jews, don't do a film about the central issue of modern Jewish history, the Holocaust. It's insensitive to their feelings, especially if you don't like them. That's why I think he should drop out.

This is not a film he could do." I've also learned that, even though Disney is the parent company of ABC, the movie division's Buena Vista arm will still distribute Gibson's action epic Apocalyptic in December as planned because of the loyalty felt by top executives John Cook and Oren Aviv to Gibson. Presently, I'm told Gibson is in a non-residential alcohol recovery program in the Malibu area.



http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-abc-has-canceled-mel-gibsons-holocaust-tv-mini-series/


< This is his DUI mug shot BTW, at least doesnt look all child molester-ish like Nick Nolte did with his (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/mugshots/noltemug.jpg) >

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0731062melmug1.jpg

mfgbypooter
July 31st, 2006, 10:30 PM
Yup. He's trashed.

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soulxtc
July 31st, 2006, 10:43 PM
I'll bet he didnt accuse the bartender of being Jewish, becasue as you see in the pic, he sure wasnt stingy with the booze....:) ha ha.

DigitalJunkie
August 1st, 2006, 02:01 AM
I know Holocaust was tragic & we shouldn't forget it, but I don't care to watch a mini TV series of it anyway! Just like I don't care about glory of war movies. On the history books, that's good enough for me!!

Personally, I rather look forward to the future with positive thoughts.

black_magiic
August 1st, 2006, 07:30 AM
what exactly was it he said anyways. I'm yet to hear what it was he spouted off

Potato
August 1st, 2006, 08:08 AM
what exactly was it he said anyways. I'm yet to hear what it was he spouted off
Once inside the car, a source directly connected with the case says Gibson began banging himself against the seat. The report says Gibson told the deputy, "You mother f****r. I'm going to f*** you." The report also says "Gibson almost continually [sic] threatened me saying he 'owns Malibu' and will spend all of his money to 'get even' with me."

The report says Gibson then launched into a barrage of anti-Semitic statements: "F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"

http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/28/gibsons-anti-semitic-tirade-alleged-cover-up/
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/the-lounge/t-mel-gibsons-anti-semitic-tiradecoverup-38638.html

kerjodando
August 1st, 2006, 08:55 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/28/gibsons-anti-semitic-tirade-alleged-cover-up/
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/the-lounge/t-mel-gibsons-anti-semitic-tiradecoverup-38638.html

But he did make the best Christian film ever or is this now forgotten.

I think he set himself up for the fall by honestly expressing his religious opinion in a Hollywood film.

In other words that the Jews killed Christ as stated in the Bible and expressed in traditional Christian teaching.

I think it is a case of "Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

The US media in part is controlled by non-Christians who did not like Mel's religious opinions so have been waiting for him to slip-up so that they can crucify him.

Looks like they have got him.

However, don't forget Jesus was himself a Jew.

I think whatever he does, the film, "The Passion of Christ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQOcwKwwa9Q)", has guaranteed his place in Heaven.

I'm sure thousands have found Christ through this film.

He should be Saint Mel. LOL

mfgbypooter
August 1st, 2006, 09:06 AM
Melvin Smiley is more of a saint than Melvin Gibson

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Potato
August 1st, 2006, 09:48 AM
I think whatever he, does the film, "The Passion of Christ", has guaranteed his place in Heaven.
Doing one "good" thing doesn't clear your slate for every other shitty thing you do. Hence... forgiveness.

YWD67
August 1st, 2006, 10:08 AM
I can think of two.

"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
"One, Aw Shit! Wipes out 1000 attaboys."

I think the second one applies to Mel's case.:icon_thum

cheapprick
August 1st, 2006, 10:16 AM
But he did make the best Christian film ever or is this now forgotten.

I think he set himself up for the fall by honestly expressing his religious opinion in a Hollywood film.

In other words that the Jews killed Christ as stated in the Bible and expressed in traditional Christian teaching.

I think it is a case of "Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

The US media in part is controlled by non-Christians who did not like Mel's religious opinions so have been waiting for him to slip-up so that they can crucify him.

Looks like they have got him.

However, don't forget Jesus was himself a Jew.

I think whatever he, does the film, "The Passion of Christ", has guaranteed his place in Heaven.

I'm sure thousands have found Christ through this film.

He should be Saint Mel. LOL

I grow weary from your faintly veiled anti-Semitism. If Hunter were still around much he probably would have already spanked you.

Lay off the racially motivated comments.

.:sp00ky:.
August 1st, 2006, 11:35 AM
I bet 10 of your money that he has a kinky nazi outfit that he wears with his lover.

soulxtc
August 1st, 2006, 11:45 AM
I bet 10 of your money that he has a kinky nazi outfit that he wears with his lover.

Thats jacked up........but, you know I wonder if the speed at the depth to which this scandal is unfolding has anything to do with his fervent Catholic ideology and the way that "The Temptation of Christ" kind of stuck its finger in Hollywood's eye by proving that religious films could make big bucks.

Hollywood and religiona have never really got along based on their underlying notions of boundaries and what is or is not acceptable. Now Hollywood has big punching bag to point at and say that religions Hollywood point man seemingly as no boundaries as well.

Kinda sad that a single moment of stupidity could undo a lifetime of positive works. I also really hope he's not truly anti-semitic.



Mel Gibson: The Speed of Scandal

Almost as stunning as Mel Gibson’s anti-Jewish tirade when arrested on suspicion of drunk driving in the early hours of last Friday was the speed at which the scandal unfolded, doing serious damage to one of Hollywood’s most valuable careers along the way.

In a little over 24 hours, Mr. Gibson’s arrest and subsequent behavior in Malibu had already prompted talk of a claimed cover-up, an exposé, worldwide news coverage, an apology and then a full-blown push for alcohol rehabilitation, even as his representatives and executives at the Walt Disney Company rushed to catch up with the event’s effect on the filmmaker’s movie and television projects with the company.

On Monday, Hope Hartman, a spokeswoman for Disney’s ABC television network, said the company was dropping its plans to produce a Holocaust-themed miniseries in collaboration with Mr. Gibson.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/01/business/media/01gibson.html?ref=technology

mfgbypooter
August 1st, 2006, 11:57 AM
Who cares about Mel.

When it comes to Gibson's, Debbie is the bomb.

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soulxtc
August 1st, 2006, 12:53 PM
Who cares about Mel.

When it comes to Gibson's, Debbie is the bomb.

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Lolllololol...dude she was on Howard Stern a while back, I think it was because she was going to pose for Playboy if not mistaken?

mfgbypooter
August 1st, 2006, 01:24 PM
Google images and looky HERE (http://www.deb-ski.com/index.php?&page=debinplayboy) , scroll the page.

WARNING: *don't click if nipples scare you*

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kerjodando
August 1st, 2006, 01:50 PM
I grow weary from your faintly veiled anti-Semitism. If Hunter were still around much he probably would have already spanked you.

Lay off the racially motivated comments.

Don't get me wrong I am not trying to excuse Mel's sins.

I am just saying you could see this coming a mile off.

There was a section of the media that was out to get him.

This article (below) clearly shows why this section of the media was very very upset with him.



The Protocols of Mel Gibson

My friends had one question for me after I saw Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ:

Is it anti-Semitic?

It's a testament to Gibson's public relations genius that this is an open question.

You'd think it was impolite to make anything of the fact that Gibson's father is a Holocaust denier who claims the European Jews simply moved to Australia.

True, we don't choose our parents, but Mel Gibson has not only not dissociated himself from his father's views but indirectly affirmed them ("The man never lied to me in his life," he told Peggy Noonan in Reader's Digest; pressed to affirm that the Holocaust was real, he replied that many people died in World War II and some were Jews--the classic Holocaust-revisionist two-step).

Nor would it do to dwell on the "traditional" (i.e., ultra right-wing) Catholicism Gibson practices, which specifically rejects the reforms of Vatican II, presumably including its repudiation of the belief that "the Jews" are collectively responsible for the death of Christ.


http://gibreel.net/static/madmaxforpope.jpg


So how anti-Semitic is The Passion?

Gibson claims that there are good Jews and bad Jews in the movie, as in the Gospels.

This is true, but disingenuous:

In The Passion, the high priest Caiaphas and his faction are not just bad, they fit neatly into ancient Christian stereotypes:

They are rich, arrogant and gaudily dressed; they plot and scheme and bribe; they cleverly manipulate the brutal but straightforward Romans; they are gratuitously "cruel" and "hard-hearted," to quote Anne Catherine Emmerich, the nineteenth-century German nun whose visions of the Passion Gibson relied on for some of the more disgusting tortures he inflicts on Jesus.

Physically, they are anti-Semitic cartoons:

The priests have big noses and gnarly faces, lumpish bodies, yellow teeth; Herod Antipas and his court are a bizarre collection of oily-haired, epicene perverts.

The "good Jews" look like Italian movie stars (Magdalene actually is an Italian movie star, the lovely Monica Bellucci); Mary, who would have been around 50 and appeared 70, could pass for a ripe 35.

These visual characterizations follow not just the Oberammergau Passion Play that Hitler found so touching but a long tradition of Christian New Testament iconography in which the villains look Semitic and the heroes, although equally Jewish, look Northern European.



Gibson claims he's only telling the story as written in the Gospels, which he calls eyewitness accounts (historians say no).



It's a mystery to me why the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has given this crude and kitschy film a thumbs up ("deeply personal work of devotional art...the Jewish people are at no time blamed collectively for Jesus' death").

Gibson has violated just about every precept of the conference's own 1988 "Criteria" for the portrayal of Jews in dramatizations of the Passion (no bloodthirsty Jews, no rabble, no use of Scripture that reinforces negative stereotypes of Jews, etc.).

Even stranger is the enthusiasm for the film among Protestant evangelicals and fundamentalists, who seem not to realize how specifically Catholic Gibson's theology is.

A generation ago, "Bible-believing" Protestants would have been up in arms over, among other "popish heresies," the quasi-divine role given to Mary and the reverence for Christ's blood (in one extra-biblical scene, Mary on her knees mops the floor where he has been scourged, using some towels given to her by Pilate's kind and thoughtful wife).

Do evangelicals not have theology anymore--anything goes as long as it's "conservative," and puts Jesus on top?



The Passion is nondenominational bigotry: Jesus wept.


From The Protocols of Mel Gibson (http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20040329&s=pollitt)

cheapprick
August 1st, 2006, 02:00 PM
Don't get me wrong I am not trying to excuse Mel's sins.

I am just saying you could see this coming a mile off.

There was a section of the media that was out to get him.

This article (below) clear shows why this section of the media was very very upset with him.


I'm clearly not getting you wrong at all.

shawners
August 1st, 2006, 04:12 PM
Just shows you that the JEWS own the media companies and re-enforces the stereotypes that jews are doctors, lawyers, media conglomerates, that drive GERMAN engineered vehicle's.. So far, when your drunk. You don't have freedom of speech.

SoreVexed
August 1st, 2006, 04:25 PM
makes you wonder if his dui thing was'nt a stunt he planned, but why for a dui?

there are too many idiots in the world, we should send them to their own island and deprive them of food.

soulxtc
August 1st, 2006, 08:28 PM
makes you wonder if his dui thing was'nt a stunt he planned, but why for a dui?



I think the stunt would've hopefully ended before all the weird anti-semitic remarks.................I mean c'mon now, "Jews control the media?" Jews never seem to get a darn break in the world, so if they do control things they're doing a pretty bad job.

DwarfBaby
August 1st, 2006, 09:38 PM
You know what, my grandmother had a number tattooed on her arm and spent 3 years in a Nazi camp. That didn't make her Jewish. I was not raised Jewish and to be honest I don't know what makes a "Jew" a "Jew". My grand mother was Catholic but she was of Jewish decent and therefore "Evil" according too the powers that be. I am 1/8th Jewish according to Jews and mostly human according to me.

As a 1/8th Jew I thought the passion sucked. Not because I'm stupid and insecure about a certain 1/8th of my body but because it was too long (Pun intentional and planned).

I think Mel Gibson makes mostly good films. "Passion" sucked and I thought "The Patriot" was weak. Most of his others were pretty good.

Honestly, if you find a human being that isn't racist when they're drunk then you really have found the son of God. Even Jesus referred to the Samaritan's as little dogs and he probably wasn't drunk at the time either.


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soulxtc
August 1st, 2006, 09:53 PM
Mel Gibson has requested meetings with Jewish leaders to help with his "journey through recovery".

In his second emotional public statement since his arrest for drink driving, the Oscar winner directly addressed the Jewish community.

Gibson said he was not an anti-Semite and was in the process of attempting to discover where his "vicious words" came from.

But, Gibson acknowledged the Jewish community might not want anything to do with him.

His latest apology also came after US gossip magazine, In Touch Weekly, published photos of the Mad Max, Braveheart and Lethal Weapon star drinking and partying with blonde female fans at Malibu restaurant, Moonshadows, hours before his arrest.


http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/08/02/1154198168963.html

DwarfBaby
August 1st, 2006, 10:02 PM
His latest apology also came after US gossip magazine, In Touch Weekly, published photos of the Mad Max, Braveheart and Lethal Weapon star drinking and partying with blonde female fans at Malibu restaurant, Moonshadows, hours before his arrest.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/08/02/1154198168963.html

Imagine a movie star sleeping with hot women. The Devil take my soul, I'm in shock.

cheapprick
August 1st, 2006, 10:11 PM
I don't view him any different than I did a month ago and my world won't rise or fall on his personal life. He's an actor.

nukehella
August 1st, 2006, 10:25 PM
Didn't Mel have a bunch of negative publicity regarding Jews a few years ago?Some movie he was making or something?How'd that turn out?

multi
August 1st, 2006, 10:37 PM
In Touch Weekly, published photos of the Mad Max, Braveheart and Lethal Weapon star drinking and partying with blonde female fans at Malibu restaurant, Moonshadows, hours before his arrest.




he was probably pissed off because he didn't get a root..


I have to ask ..

Would the rich Jews have planted all this stuff on the WWW and mainstream news if he had of got plastered and blamed Arabs/Islam for all the wars of the last 500 years....(they have been involved in a big way ,one way or another come to think of it. especially in that region) well ?
... we might of heard of the DUI charge briefly on the nightly news then on ET or TODAY and that would of been about all we would hear of it.

The people getting mileage out of this story are flaunting their ability to totally corrupt what the public gets in their news and current affairs obviously
(not only in the USA)

That such a insignificant (in terms of numbers) ethnic group should hold sway over the political world is a very scary thing to a lot of people. It has been for a very long time. Events like this one is a perfect example as to what goes on.

USA .With your rich political history ,how can you let it be so corrupted in this way ?

Now that GWB has now rejected 200 more congressional provisions than all of the presidents before him (807)
Something is looking a little fucked up ,eh? The incoming Democrats will be paid off just as easily as the outgoing Republicans. So little will change.

Some SERIOUS investigation and some subsequent restrictions are needed badly.

DigitalJunkie
August 2nd, 2006, 02:02 AM
When I'm drunk (not often), I will go to sleep but I've seen others either get violent or talk too much. Next day, they would not remember a thing about what they done or said!

In the U.S., there are those of us think this is just celeb. news not real important. Medias are just giving the public that do have interest in celeb., but they doing it as news. If you think this is news, you are just too silly!

Auggie2k
August 2nd, 2006, 02:16 AM
Give it two weeks and this will be all forgotten.

Do you remember Mel Gibson in South Park? Now that was some funny stuff.

kerjodando
August 2nd, 2006, 02:33 AM
he was probably pissed off because he didn't get a root..


I have to ask ..

Would the rich Jews have planted all this stuff on the WWW and mainstream news if he had of got plastered and blamed Arabs/Islam for all the wars of the last 500 years....(they have been involved in a big way ,one way or another come to think of it. especially in that region) well ?
... we might of heard of the DUI charge briefly on the nightly news then on ET or TODAY and that would of been about all we would hear of it.

The people getting mileage out of this story are flaunting their ability to totally corrupt what the public gets in their news and current affairs obviously
(not only in the USA)

That such a insignificant (in terms of numbers) ethnic group should hold sway over the political world is a very scary thing to a lot of people. It has been for a very long time. Events like this one is a perfect example as to what goes on.

USA .With your rich political history ,how can you let it be so corrupted in this way ?

Now that GWB has now rejected 200 more congressional provisions than all of the presidents before him (807)
Something is looking a little fucked up ,eh? The incoming Democrats will be paid off just as easily as the outgoing Republicans. So little will change.

Some SERIOUS investigation and some subsequent restrictions are needed badly.

PRECISELY.

Digital Bliss
August 2nd, 2006, 10:35 AM
Passion Of The Drunk

YWD67
August 2nd, 2006, 01:57 PM
he was probably pissed off because he didn't get a root..


I have to ask ..

Would the rich Jews have planted all this stuff on the WWW and mainstream news if he had of got plastered and blamed Arabs/Islam for all the wars of the last 500 years....(they have been involved in a big way ,one way or another come to think of it. especially in that region) well ?
... we might of heard of the DUI charge briefly on the nightly news then on ET or TODAY and that would of been about all we would hear of it.

The people getting mileage out of this story are flaunting their ability to totally corrupt what the public gets in their news and current affairs obviously
(not only in the USA)

That such a insignificant (in terms of numbers) ethnic group should hold sway over the political world is a very scary thing to a lot of people. It has been for a very long time. Events like this one is a perfect example as to what goes on.

USA .With your rich political history ,how can you let it be so corrupted in this way ?

Now that GWB has now rejected 200 more congressional provisions than all of the presidents before him (807)
Something is looking a little fucked up ,eh? The incoming Democrats will be paid off just as easily as the outgoing Republicans. So little will change.

Some SERIOUS investigation and some subsequent restrictions are needed badly.

Hmmmmmm? Blaming the rich Jews for our nations woes? I can't help but think that I have heard that some where else.

Oh yeah! Now I remember!

But it usual started with "Sieg Heil".


Hitler blamed the Jews for all the misfortunes that had befallen Germany

the loss of the First World War was the result of a Jewish conspiracy

the Treaty of Versailles was also a Jewish conspiracy designed to bring Germany to her knees

the hyperinflation of 1923 was the result of an international Jewish banking industry and it's attempt to destroy Germany.

What the hell is next? Blaming Mel's alcoholic binge drinking and the rest of the worlds woes on the Illuminati?

FYI! I to am a Roman Catholic. (aka Mackerel snapper)

cheapprick
August 2nd, 2006, 04:19 PM
he was probably pissed off because he didn't get a root..


I have to ask ..

Would the rich Jews have planted all this stuff on the WWW and mainstream news if he had of got plastered and blamed Arabs/Islam for all the wars of the last 500 years....(they have been involved in a big way ,one way or another come to think of it. especially in that region) well ?
... we might of heard of the DUI charge briefly on the nightly news then on ET or TODAY and that would of been about all we would hear of it.

The people getting mileage out of this story are flaunting their ability to totally corrupt what the public gets in their news and current affairs obviously
(not only in the USA)

That such a insignificant (in terms of numbers) ethnic group should hold sway over the political world is a very scary thing to a lot of people. It has been for a very long time. Events like this one is a perfect example as to what goes on.

USA .With your rich political history ,how can you let it be so corrupted in this way ?

Now that GWB has now rejected 200 more congressional provisions than all of the presidents before him (807)
Something is looking a little fucked up ,eh? The incoming Democrats will be paid off just as easily as the outgoing Republicans. So little will change.

Some SERIOUS investigation and some subsequent restrictions are needed badly.


I was shocked to see such an argument come from you.

So shocked that I had to really delve into books to see if you were right. Woe is me. I've uncovered all of these other terrible deeds too.

- That picture of James Brown after getting arrested for fisticuffs with his wife? The work of Jewish hairstylists.
- Pictures of Kate Moss and cocaine? Angry Jewish fashion designers.
- Those quotes from the Dixie Chicks that pissed on their careers? Fighting mad Jewish cowboys.
- Coverage of Jerry Lee Lewis having married his cousin? Scheming Yiddish poets.
- Pictures of Jane Fonda in Vietnam? Extreme right-wing Jewish dock workers.
- Accusations against Jacko? Jewish pop-stars.
- Macaulay Culkin's drug charges? Jewish child stars of America, Fargo branch.
- Gary Glitter's arrest? Jewish glam rockers.

Clearly people have never been interested in stars falling from grace unless the Jewish conspiracy was present. Boy. Do I feel fucking stupid.

mfgbypooter
August 2nd, 2006, 04:49 PM
Come on everyone, leave Mel Gibstein alone.

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aqlo
August 2nd, 2006, 05:00 PM
Hi CP! Don't forget about that kosher Hoagie on rye that killed Elvis :drunken_s

Seriously though, maybe this close-up with humility will get that fat has-been off the preaching-to-the-choir propaganda train and force him to make some actual good movies again... Just imagine: Mad Max 4: The Exodus ... Highlander II: Lost Tribes of the Scots ... Passion of the Drunken Road Warrior, with a special reprise appearance by Tina Turner as Max's big transgender cellmate ...

*Message to Mel -- "Less talk, more action, asshole"

But he did make the best Christian film ever or is this now forgotten.
Are you kidding? Passion isn't even the best gospel film from his own frigging distributor/production company, much less ever

http://www.jurassicdvd.com/catalog/images/MiracleMaker,The.jpg

multi
August 2nd, 2006, 10:19 PM
Would the rich Jews have... ?
I'm sorry.... I ment poor Jews , poor ,poor ,poor Jews and their 10,000 years of persecution.

I was shocked to see such an argument come from you I LOL'd

but.. seriously now, I just think they are really bringing themselves undone this time. They own the networks they can put on what ever they like....


Passion of the Drunken Road Warrior
Now that could be quite a film..



http://www.addis-welt.de/smilie/smilie/schild/inq.gif
He is packing it in and packing it up
And sneaking away and buggering up
And chickening out and pissing off home,
Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge.

soulxtc
August 2nd, 2006, 11:43 PM
They own the networks they can put on what ever they like....
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???? If that's the case, again they're PR guy is doing a bang-up job. The favorable coverage they do get is based largely on the efforts and the clout of EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS who hold Israel as a fulfilment of Bible prophecy. And as we all know, GW Bush is the Evangelicals point man on the situation.

Whats funny is the Kinghts Templar (CAtholics) ran and controlled much of Lebanon and ISrael for longer than the United States has existed. Food for thought.

Pirate_RRRRRR_IIIIII
August 2nd, 2006, 11:53 PM
The funny thing is the jews (as in Israel) really do "own" everything. Ariel Sharon said (paraphrase) Israel owns the United States and the americans know it. What he means is the Israeli lobbyist are so powerful they pretty much run the show. I don't really care if Mel is a drunk or an anti-semite, you see more of each everyday. I think Israel turned into the 4th Reich, they're massacuring the Lebanonese. Sorry to get off topic but I think those facts are much more important than this drivel.

multi
August 3rd, 2006, 12:17 AM
Whats funny is the Kinghts Templar (CAtholics) ran and controlled much of Lebanon and ISrael for longer than the United States has existed. Food for thought.

I was just reading about this other day
It wouldn't be the same for them after WW1






From:
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sykes)In summary form the conflicting interests of the Great Powers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Powers) and aspiring nations during World War One are outlined below.
Russia vs Turkey vs Greece over Constantinople, the Straits and Thrace
France vs the Arabs vs Turkey over Syria
Britain vs France vs the Arabs vs the Zionists over Palestine
Greece vs Turkey vs Italy over Smyrna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smyrna) and southwest Asia Minor
Britain vs France vs the Arabs vs Turkey over Kurdish northern Iraq
France vs Turkey over southeastern Asia Minor and Alexandretta
Russia vs Turkey over Armenia and The southeast Black Sea coast



Sykes-Picot Agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes-Picot_Agreement),

lifehacker
August 3rd, 2006, 09:58 AM
The funny thing is the jews (as in Israel) really do "own" everything. Ariel Sharon said (paraphrase) Israel owns the United States and the americans know it. What he means is the Israeli lobbyist are so powerful they pretty much run the show. I don't really care if Mel is a drunk or an anti-semite, you see more of each everyday. I think Israel turned into the 4th Reich, they're massacuring the Lebanonese. Sorry to get off topic but I think those facts are much more important than this drivel.
OMFG. This is going to turn into another "What CNN does not show you" discussion....

soulxtc
August 3rd, 2006, 10:13 AM
OMFG. This is going to turn into another "What CNN does not show you" discussion....

ROTFL................