Anyone familiar with RatioMaster?

[soulxtc]

Now I dont exaclty endorse it, those guys over at OINK are total nazis and was wondering if anybody knew whether or not Ratiomaster (http://www.moofdev.org/) was detectable on their part?

[broadwayrock]

Its very likely that they can detect it, as they crack down heavily on cheaters.

[thepuzzler]

How come you've gone to the darkside, soul? Two accounts, now thinking bout ratio cheating. I wouldn't chance it myself.

Theres prolly an easier way to get a legit account and start from fresh.

[soulxtc]

I know, the "force" in me has been swayed :)..........think rato cheating is BS as it really F's up the system and people lose the incentive to share, BUT, I dont know what I would do without OINK and was contemplating using it from time to time just to keep in their good graces ratio wise.

As the thing with that site, kinda like Pisexy, is that oftentimes its way easier to get stuff than it is to share it. You know u can DL a 70MB album in liek a minuute, but it will take you forever to share it long enough to get that magic 1.0. Sure u can UL stuff but again its gotta be stuff people want yet isnt offered there already.

All in all, Im sure OINk can detect it, their crazy like that. I remember being on their IRC channel(big mistake BTW) and the MOD chick cut me off midsentence, kicked me and then banned me. Was way crazy.

[thepuzzler]

How about this.

Goto start, Run, type "cmd"

then type:

ipconfig /release (Beware you're internet connection will drop after you type this)

then wait about a day (if you type the next command too soon, you'll pick up the same IP again)

ipconfig /renew

Then -bang!- new IP.

Then get a new invite sent to a new webmail address and re-register.

[serrebi101]

Ishare, but at a place like oink it's difficult to keep a 1:1 ratio because of the restrictions on new peers. So unless you have a 1337 promo release with a track 10.5 that nobody has, it's very hard to keep ratio, even if your trying. Other sights have the same problem, but they don't have bitchy admins that try to kill you with harshitities if you don't keep your ratio, or ban your ip over that. I still wouldn't use a cheater app. I keep a 1.395 ratio over at filemp3 with no problems, and same with stuff from other priv sites, like dididave etc. I kind of wouldn't mind trying again, since I have a fresh IP now, and encryption has come around, so it might be easier. If anyone has a spare invite, fire it to



**Don't ask for invites**

[thepuzzler]

but at a place like oink it's difficult to keep a 1:1 ratio because of the restrictions on new peers. What restrictions? It's not like they have wait times for new torrents like other sites.

...and encryption has come around, so it might be easier. RC4 encryption is to get around ISP's efforts to traffic shape BT traffic. It in no way makes you anonymous, etc.
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It really isnt as hard to keep a ratio as people say, and man, do I have a shitty upload cap (30kbs).

Just keep your stuff seeding and its all good, plus they've recently changed they're ratio requirements. Anyone that can't keep a 0.3 ratio doesn't deserve to be there anyway IMO.

[soulxtc]

How about this.

Goto start, Run, type "cmd"

then type:

ipconfig /release (Beware you're internet connection will drop after you type this)

then wait about a day (if you type the next command too soon, you'll pick up the same IP again)

ipconfig /renew

Then -bang!- new IP.

Then get a new invite sent to a new webmail address and re-register.

Yah Ive heard this advice as well, though also heard that it doesnt matter, that ones ISP will maintain the same address for you and u have to call to specifically request that it be changed. Might give it a twirl, though dont know if I can stay off the interent for an entire day :o

[shawners]

I didnt believe it, but used it on BITSOUP because i dont download from there and my ratio was already over 1.126. I tried it on a music cd.. It registered me as a seeder having a 100 percent. I didnt download anything, and i set the upload paremeter to go between 50-72kbs. It did that, i think i uploaded 250megs. Without uploading. Im not banned. It will not be banned or detected if you set it up right. Upload speed reasonable, something that has tons of leechers. If your gonna do that, you might as well actually seed. The ratiomaster is setup like any bt client. Might as well just seeding. It sends out fake information that its the latest and greatest BT client. If they did try to ban it,it be impossible. Ban all ABC client users, azuerues, utorrent, bitcomit, as well as others. It tells the tracker that its the actual client. More that are aware of it and uses it, there be a trade off later on when there is actually no thing like a real seed. And when you actually want something, you cant obtain it since people are lieing about their amount there uploading. I can see that later on private sites may implement their on bt client that can be used and secure it from being easily hacked.

[soulxtc]

Used to increase my ration on a Howrad Stern torrent site, and it did work, so far anyways. It has a feature that allows you to vary the rate from time to time also so that its not a constant stream of uploaded data, a surefire giveaway. You simply select teh parameters, ie max and min upload speeds, you want, select a tracker to attach it to and presto. Thats how its so hard to dtect I presume as it it piggybacks on an actual tracker.

Still afraid to try it with OINk though..............any volunteers? :)

[shawners]

It will work with oink, no one can detect it. Actually the only thing is you got to monitor it. Reporting upload to a torrent with no leeches will get you easily hang. Implementing how much you have uploaded is redundant. Your gonna have to be careful, scripts are written all the time to take care of stuff like this. This is pretty new, i doubt they have a counter measure. And how could they. It registers with the tracker and shows it as the latest and greatest BT client.

[nukehella]

Yah Ive heard this advice as well, though also heard that it doesnt matter, that ones ISP will maintain the same address for you and u have to call to specifically request that it be changed. Might give it a twirl, though dont know if I can stay off the interent for an entire day :o

You must change your MAC address young Grasshopper.Then the way to a new IP will become clear to you.

[nukehella]

I really need to stop assuming everyone knows the same things I know.
What I should have said was if your ISP has static IP's you're screwed.But if you just have dynamic IP's that take a while to get released on the other end by the ISP(it can take hours) after you do the release/renew on yours you can get a new IP immediately by changing the MAC address on your NIC card,then doing the release/renew.
Hope that wasn't too:icon_scra

[shawners]

I scanned through the ratiomaster. A hidden setting lets you seed/or upload til the leechers reach a number.. Like you can have it set to 0 or 3 where it wont upload if leechers decline, so i guess its gonna be hard to monitor this program. Or fix sites that require ratio. So far it can be very undetectable.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Actual sharing of files is such an inconvenience. Thanks for showing everyone the way around that.

[Illuminist]

A person doesn't even require it. e.g. work up to a no wait limit (99% of trackers), keep
well away from commenting on the torrents, the forums and the IRC channel and all you have to do is change the trackers URL when downloading. Rather simple indeed.

I never share.

PS. Just joined today.

[Monitorm]

Now I dont exaclty endorse it, those guys over at OINK are total nazis and was wondering if anybody knew whether or not Ratiomaster (http://www.moofdev.org/) was detectable on their part?


Two reason why you are a fracking noob.

1. Programs like this will kill Bitorrent, if no one shares, no on gets anything.
2. If you use it, posting about it hear increases awareness, more people use it and chaces of you getting caught increase.

Which ever side of the fence you are on you are a dumb ass for posting it here, go grow a brain! Preferably try and have this thread deleted.

Even more preferably, hope you get banned on all your favourite sites.

[napho]

Two reason why you are a fracking noob.

1. Programs like this will kill Bitorrent, if no one shares, no on gets anything.




It could also be said that a program like BitTorrent will kill the entertainment industry. Why make a $200 million movie if it's just gonna be pirated? Why spend 3 years of your life making an album, only to have it stolen?
Anything goes, we're pirates, we're selfish buggers. :icon_pira

[Monitorm]

It could also be said that a program like BitTorrent will kill the entertainment industry. Why make a $200 million movie if it's just gonna be pirated? Why spend 3 years of your life making an album, only to have it stolen?
Anything goes, we're pirates, we're selfish buggers. :icon_pira


Have a think about it, programs like this are ANTI pirating, if we all did it, piracy via torrents at least would end. What better way to stop piracy than spoofing uploads, sharing fake material etc etc.

You are being extremely short sighted, so no this does"not go". This is a bitorrent thread.

If you consider yourself a pirate this should annoy you.

[soulxtc]

Two reason why you are a fracking noob.

1. Programs like this will kill Bitorrent, if no one shares, no on gets anything.
2. If you use it, posting about it hear increases awareness, more people use it and chaces of you getting caught increase.

Which ever side of the fence you are on you are a dumb ass for posting it here, go grow a brain! Preferably try and have this thread deleted.

Even more preferably, hope you get banned on all your favourite sites.

You dont know what the heck you're talking about. How am I gonna get caught? Its no tlike I use the alias here on private tracker sites. Furthermore, in case u didnt read what I said, I said that I only intend to use it in extreem circumstances where getting ones ratio up can be very difficult due to a lack of number in leechers, ie OINK for instance.

I think the BitTorrent community will survive just fine, as people will stell share and still upload material to download. Dont get your panties in a bunch.

[napho]

Have a think about it, programs like this are ANTI pirating, if we all did it, piracy via torrents at least would end. What better way to stop piracy than spoofing uploads, sharing fake material etc etc.

You are being extremely short sighted, so no this does"not go". This is a bitorrent thread.

If you consider yourself a pirate this should annoy you.


I'm just being realistic. Whenever someone posts some Rapidshare premium accounts and says "please don't change the passwords, share" , immediately every single password is changed. I belong to private torrent sites and never even try to cheat and appreciate the sense of community, but most downloaders are simply selfish. We've created this image of us noble freedom fighters doing battle against the evil AA's, but really we're just trying to get stuff without paying for it.

[.:sp00ky:.]

We've created this image of us noble freedom fighters doing battle against the evil AA's, but really we're just trying to get stuff without paying for it.


lol so true, also people moaning about leeching from torrent sites while they leech everything from the companys and people that make the music and films in the first place.

[Monitorm]

Well, we should all just spoof uploads then. Lets post more threads and teach all the noobs how to do it.

What a great idea, you guys are brilliant! :icon_rend

[soulxtc]

Theres plenty of ways to cheat out there, its up to the individual to determine if its just and proper based on the situation. I always seed the heck of out my torrents, at least 100% unless its somthing a lot of people are trying to get than I'll leave it cranked up for even longer.

As far as teaching the NOOBs, I mean the information is out there, so if anything talking about it might hopefully make them think about it a little more and perhaps consider when or if its justified.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Hmmmmm, I wonder who will not be getting anymore invites 'round these parts?

[Illuminist]

Hmmmmm, I wonder who will not be getting anymore invites 'round these parts?

Well the only one I'd require is SceneTorrents. Even then I can get the exact same content its offering from another private tracker(s) I'm a member of.

These private sites get the same content one way or the other...

[napho]

Hmmmmm, I wonder who will not be getting anymore invites 'round these parts?


And I bet you think that's actually a break for the ones who won't, cuz they won't be caught up in the impending FBI sting. :icon_blac

[soulxtc]

And I bet you think that's actually a break for the ones who won't, cuz they won't be caught up in the impending FBI sting. :icon_blac

?...........

[Mels_Smileys45]

?...........


LMAO

Everyone knows private sites are completely safe. Heck, I don't know why people didn't think of this years ago! Just add a password to any site and no one cares if a group is operating a pirate ring. S-A-F-E

[Excrement_Cranium]

I love when elitists come in spouting their shit.

You know how everyone shit's their pants when a public torrent site goes down, and then the server records are reviewed?

Now imagine what kind of information "private" sites have on your activity. Imagine a "private" site getting raided while your seeding one of those teeny little pitchfork albums.

And people cried over a few tracks on Kazaa? How about a 100 album torrent?

In fact, you know the "private" sites are going to be targeted, because they are where most of the content elsewhere originates. They might not be the big fish, but they ain't quite guppies either.

That's not to say that my neck ain't on the block.

[Mels_Smileys45]

That is wise of you EC. It will happen and thats been my point all along. We all take risks but some seem to be oblivious to the danger. To each his own. Its your life.

[CrashPeer44]

you guys are idiots
JUST UPLOAD!!!!!
STOP HURTING THE NETWORKS

I beat up my friends when they have bad ratio's
they learn there lessons
2.0 FOR LIFE!

[sscorpionn]

So which sites can't detect this RatioMaster thing?

[soulxtc]

you guys are idiots
JUST UPLOAD!!!!!
STOP HURTING THE NETWORKS

I beat up my friends when they have bad ratio's
they learn there lessons
2.0 FOR LIFE!

I agree, and I do, yet as with anything there are always exceptions to the rule, and as w all know OINK is the exception to everything... :)


So which sites can't detect this RatioMaster thing?

Thats something you'll need to discover for yourself, but again, as is any decision one makes, it must reconcile ones conscience and the situation it finds itself in.

I think to make the brash pattern of simply discontinuing to upload is not only rude and unfair, but also undermines the underpinnings of the very nature of the BT community.

Now having said that, I also find it hard to reconcile the fact that the BT community by in large is also based on the practice of copyright infringement and hence illegal, so to proclaim that there must be honor amongst thieves is likewise difficult to defend.

[nukehella]

Oink is the easiest site I've ever seen to build a good ratio on.A dead person could have a 10 gig surplus in a week if they are downloading MP3s.

[soulxtc]

Oink is the easiest site I've ever seen to build a good ratio on.A dead person could have a 10 gig surplus in a week if they are downloading MP3s.

Well, the major flaw in your argument is the fact that you'd have to have stuff that a) people want and b) isn't already available for upload on the site. Not always an easy proposition if you dont want to resort to scrolling throught the endless pile of requests for random stuff.

Even a "dead guy" would have to have music that people wanted to download in sufficient numbers to equalize the level of stuff that one wants to download for themselves.

[Dark Messenger]

shameful. simply shameful.

[soulxtc]

shameful. simply shameful.
who me? I dont see how considering all my other ratios are at or near 1.0 at least, aside from Pisexy, 0.6, but that sites another story, just ask Shawners.

Like the new user title BTW, "The new Krell"............u have big shoes to fill............

Anyways, I think the purpose of this thread has run its course.

[Dark Messenger]

lol, let's not get into a quote match. :icon_rabb

[Excrement_Cranium]

I upload plenty.

But, I am not deluded enough to believe that I am safe in doing so on one site over an other. In the past 7 years it's all been a game of cat and mouse.... then again, it's always been a game of cat and mouse.


And it isn't all that "easy" to ratio up. I have a few gigs of shit I don't even want on my harddrive right now because I am trying to build a ratio.

My first two dl's from Oink, I seeded for something like 4 months, and neither one ever reached a 1:1 ratio. I was locked out within a week.

I got back in... went diggin around in closets and uploaded a couple rips which were good for about a gig... and they pretty much died quickly, and were then removed.

FFS, other people got seeding priority over me on my own uploads.

And, really... I have bought maybe 3 CDs since 1999... even though I owned hundreds.

I say... some of you with those fatcat ratios should stop fuggin seeding, so the rest of us can join in.

Quit piggin the pink... quit "hurting the network."

[Auggie2k]

Quit piggin the pink... quit "hurting the network."
LOL your a legend!

[cjules13]

As far as OiNK goes, I justed waited until a hot new album was posted. I didn't really want it, but there were 100s of leechers on it. So use a new album to build a ratio of like 10:1, then go get the stuff you really want...

[Dark Messenger]

I upload plenty.

But, I am not deluded enough to believe that I am safe in doing so on one site over an other. In the past 7 years it's all been a game of cat and mouse.... then again, it's always been a game of cat and mouse.


And it isn't all that "easy" to ratio up. I have a few gigs of shit I don't even want on my harddrive right now because I am trying to build a ratio.

My first two dl's from Oink, I seeded for something like 4 months, and neither one ever reached a 1:1 ratio. I was locked out within a week.

I got back in... went diggin around in closets and uploaded a couple rips which were good for about a gig... and they pretty much died quickly, and were then removed.

FFS, other people got seeding priority over me on my own uploads.

And, really... I have bought maybe 3 CDs since 1999... even though I owned hundreds.

I say... some of you with those fatcat ratios should stop fuggin seeding, so the rest of us can join in.

Quit piggin the pink... quit "hurting the network."

There was some great discussion about this on the now defunct Asian Dvd Club (their servers were also seized in the Pirate Bay raids and they haven't got theirs back yet...collateral damage).

I wish now that I had saved that discussion...its was basically the same argument users couldn't seed because torrents were too 'well seeded' lol what a problem ay? torrents being too-well seeded as opposed to not seeded enough?

Perhaps I don't really understand the problem with oink here. I think someone from this site gave me an invite there and I signed up and used it to browse what they had there but saw nothing of interest to me. I signed up there because I had seen many of you including my pal, Shawners rave about this place.

Anyway I logged back in or tried to and found my account deleted from inactivity...no big deal as I didn't really care about being a member there in the first place but I was going to check to see if it waa possible to ration cheat there for soulxtc.

On AsianDvdClub it was possible and I had seen many do it...what people would do is open an account...download as much as they could without seeding until that account got closed then make a new one.

The problem with doing this on oink is that you need an invite now from another member to even get an account there and if you screw around with leeching (not seeding back 1:1 ratio on all torrents you grab) or ratio cheating (deliberately entering a false count) you also screw the person who invited you as they get penalised because of your actions..that's why I'm against even trying to cheat on oink because you screw the person who invited you.

[cjules13]

...if you screw around with leeching (not seeding back 1:1 ratio on all torrents you grab) ...

Is that true? If I seed one torrent 10:1, I would expect to get away with a couple hit-and-runs on other torrents...

That's not really achievable on each individual torrent. Do they really ban this way even if your overall ratio is > 1?

[soulxtc]

I never hit and run. What is annoying is having to seed something forever to get it to 1:1. Been seeding a particular file for like 3 weeks now and still at "0.65." In many ways its like a crazy pyramid scheme waiting for those below u to take it off your hands.

I agree with EC also, many times it seems that theres a weird priority system set up, as once when uploaded a 10Gb collection of mash ups, after it completed seeding one guy in entirety, my upload speed dropped to like 5kb/s, even with like 4 other leechers, and his zoomed up to max speed. Go figure.

[nukehella]

You won't get anywhere ratiowise with MP3s.They are to well seeded.What you want to do is rip something to FLAC and seed it.It's easier to find something thats not seeded as FLAC and it's a bigger file,hence more upload bytes.
And anyone who says they don't have anything to rip turn off the computer ,get off your ass and get a library card.They have tons of CD's .
I bult part of my ratio on a CD by a Japanese chic playing Bach concertos on a viola.

[thepuzzler]

The problem with doing this on oink is that you need an invite now from another member to even get an account there and if you screw around with leeching (not seeding back 1:1 ratio on all torrents you grab) or ratio cheating (deliberately entering a false count) you also screw the person who invited you as they get penalised because of your actions Wrong. THere are no penalties for the inviter of a leech or cheat.



Is that true? If I seed one torrent 10:1, I would expect to get away with a couple hit-and-runs on other torrents...

That's not really achievable on each individual torrent. Do they really ban this way even if your overall ratio is > 1? No it's not true. So much mis-information.

[cjules13]

Thanks for the info!

[soulxtc]

You won't get anywhere ratiowise with MP3s.They are to well seeded.What you want to do is rip something to FLAC and seed it.It's easier to find something thats not seeded as FLAC and it's a bigger file,hence more upload bytes.
And anyone who says they don't have anything to rip turn off the computer ,get off your ass and get a library card.They have tons of CD's .
I bult part of my ratio on a CD by a Japanese chic playing Bach concertos on a viola.


Intersting notion, I like the idea. considering MP3's at a what, 312 bitrate are compressed to a tenth the size of a WAV or FLAC file, would be good way to get that bastard ratio up. Could never gigure out why people had FLAC files up there in the first place, maybe this is a large reason why.

[cjules13]

OiNK has more audiophiles than any other music site. FLAC offers lossless compression for the highest quality possible.

I wish I could start over and get all FLAC, but it's way too late for that now. By the time you get all FLAC then watch hi-def CDs come out or some shit...

[soulxtc]

OiNK has more audiophiles than any other music site. FLAC offers lossless compression for the highest quality possible.

I wish I could start over and get all FLAC, but it's way too late for that now. By the time you get all FLAC then watch hi-def CDs come out or some shit...

Shoot if I had all my tunes in FLAC format I'd need one of those terabyte size HDD. I have 120 / 160 GB dual HDDs right now, and that just cuts it. Dont know that the difference would be that much more phenomenal, I mean can u really improve a Hendrix tune? Maybe soem of the new Electronica stuff, but otherwise 192 kb/s and above MP3's are good enough for me.

[cjules13]

Shoot if I had all my tunes in FLAC format I'd need one of those terabyte size HDD. I have 120 / 160 GB dual HDDs right now, and that just cuts it. Dont know that the difference would be that much more phenomenal, I mean can u really improve a Hendrix tune? Maybe soem of the new Electronica stuff, but otherwise 192 kb/s and above MP3's are good enough for me.

My dad runs a 10000W hi-fi setup. No, that's not a typo. When you have the ultimate in sound systems, every bit counts. We even took the Pepsi challenge between a 192k mp3, 320k mp3, and the original CD. The mp3s sounded like shit compared to the original. FLAC gives you original CD quality.

[Dark Messenger]

Wrong. THere are no penalties for the inviter of a leech or cheat.

No it's not true. So much mis-information.

How about an invite then?

[soulxtc]

How about an invite then?

I'll give you one in a few days when I finish getting my ratio up... :)

[Dark Messenger]

excellent.

[shawners]

Actually people are finding and discovering the joys of downloading flac. People burn the cd, its lossless.. Put it in a safe place, burn a couple more for the car and house. Or archive on DVD-r with others or on their hard drives. I got 2 people who snatched a flac album from me, its a band from the 80's, two cd's. Totaled over 1 gig. I got two gigs uploaded. People keep outdoing others for ratio, and it makes the site more competitive. . A scene group release a cd 1-2 weeks at 220 vbr, or v0, then its members get a hold of it within a few days before being sold in the states. Usually Japan or UK, and rip it at 256, 320cbr, and then flac. They sometimes get hold of cd's with bonus tracks so it makes the album more tangible. You honestly never need this program. If your suffering from wait times, or lack of intrest. Just re-rip something in flac and you can get a few more takers. Programs like this will end up getting all your favorite bit torrent clients banned. It resembles the clients and list them on the tracker. Look through the request section sometimes, if you got a lot of a great artist on there.. Do searches, daily stuff is being requested.

[Dark Messenger]

How do you rip in flac? and can I play a flac cd in my car?

[shawners]

You can also upload ebooks, software and shit. A person on oink. Wont mention names, got a letter the other day by using Torrentspy. Here is a few of his postings.
"
My isp sent me a letter saying that i am going to be prosecuted for pirating copyright material over the internet via p2p.

i must cease all illegal activity now and even then im still at risk of being prosecuted.

the letter was from an attorney on behalf of the RIAA

i ran utorrent and i have used torrentspy on occasion for relatively popular files.. i am also on demonoid but rarely use it. 95% of my downloads have been from oink.

i searched around a bit and found out about what big red had mentioned..

i guess they send a subpoena threatening the suspected infringer.. i guess you would call it and use it to scare. they occasionally get some money out of it but it seems that they are just trying to get a bunch of p2p users to panic..

i was talking to my dad, (the one whom the letter was addressed to) and in the letter it stated the exact moment in time where the illegal act took place.. that isnt an indication of something more than one of those subpoenas that the riaa is employing is it? i would think that information would be on hand of my isp regardless of what file is being transferred...

if anyone has gotten one of these letters i would greatly appreciate it if you explained what yours said. i am yet to view the letter myself. my dad did his best to paraphrase it.. hes a little pissed so i dont know if some of the stuff hes saying is completely valid. i will get the letter tomorrow.

anyone with ideas, suggestions, etc. please dont hesitate to give input. thanks

my isp is adelphia"
How do you rip in flac? and can I play a flac cd in my car?
Here are some links.. People sometimes store FLAC albums on their cd's as data, but mostly they have it uncompressed and burnt using software that can burn the albums. Some software wont let you compress and decompress flac.
http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html
http://www.exactaudiocopy.org/
http://users.pandora.be/satcp/
http://home.casema.nl/mogro/index.htm (dutch-manual)
http://lossless.free.fr/

A good program to check your wav-files or they are indeed LOSSLESS,
it's called AnalFreq:
http://www.softlookup.com/display.asp?id=2908

[soulxtc]

You can also upload ebooks, software and shit. A person on oink. Wont mention names, got a letter the other day by using Torrentspy. Here is a few of his postings.
l]

Kinda figured something was up, Peer Guardian has been going berserk lately whenever I DL anything from there........

[black_magiic]

soul if you want some help upload an album in FLAC and pm on oink with a link to it and I will download it.

[soulxtc]

soul if you want some help upload an album in FLAC and pm on oink with a link to it and I will download it.

Dude, its all good bro......man this thread's getting way out of hand...... :(

[Dark Messenger]

Dude, its all good bro......man this thread's getting way out of hand...... :(

why?
_____________

[soulxtc]

Because I feel like Im getting criticized and offred aid at the same time.....dont know how to react.....its all good I guess...BTW DM.....how's that MIVX workin out u bastard? :) Keep finding myself getting a flic, wanting to get it up on my projector only to remember still that Im old school , that I have to burn discs again........discs are so 2005.. :)

[Excrement_Cranium]

Nah... this thread ain't that bad.


I might get all crochety about things here and there, but I have no anger for anyone. The Oink system just frustrates me.


And, no... I wouldn't ratio cheat. I just don't have much to do with oink, as it takes 4 years to seed a 4mb file to a 1:1 ratio, and I'm not going to "work" (rip music I don't have) to up it. If I have to work to steal something, why don't I just cut down to a cheaper 'net service, and start buying (used) CD's again? So... I continue to upload files, being the 197th seeder in line, getting a blazing 2.2kb speed on a 15gb file. Oh the joys of this modern "contribute to the network" filesharing.

[soulxtc]

Nah... this thread ain't that bad.


I might get all crochety about things here and there, but I have no anger for anyone. The Oink system just frustrates me.


And, no... I wouldn't ratio cheat. I just don't have much to do with oink, as it takes 4 years to seed a 4mb file to a 1:1 ratio, and I'm not going to "work" (rip music I don't have) to up it. If I have to work to steal something, why don't I just cut down to a cheaper 'net service, and start buying (used) CD's again? So... I continue to upload files, being the 197th seeder in line, getting a blazing 2.2kb speed on a 15gb file. Oh the joys of this modern "contribute to the network" filesharing.

I totally agree. As far as ratio cheating, am keeping it as a "nuclear option." :)

[shawners]

You know what you do. Oink has a system in place, called Similar Artist. You have a torrent you uploaded, and say its The Fray.. You look at some other artist and notice the sound is some what similar or think others who downloaded a particular album may like your "The Fray" upload. You enter it, and people will see it on that torrent page and be able to check out your group that you uploaded. Like Aerosmith, you may upload a bon jovi cd and post it as similar to aerosmith. It takes 20 minutes to rip an album in flac. EAC creates the log/cue/m3u/album in exact track listings, and all you do is make torrent, post track names on it, and upload it. Its simple =)

[soulxtc]

You know what you do. Oink has a system in place, called Similar Artist. You have a torrent you uploaded, and say its The Fray.. You look at some other artist and notice the sound is some what similar or think others who downloaded a particular album may like your "The Fray" upload. You enter it, and people will see it on that torrent page and be able to check out your group that you uploaded. Like Aerosmith, you may upload a bon jovi cd and post it as similar to aerosmith. It takes 20 minutes to rip an album in flac. EAC creates the log/cue/m3u/album in exact track listings, and all you do is make torrent, post track names on it, and upload it. Its simple =)

Very good ideas indeed. THX

This thread is shaping up to be quite informative. Very cool.

Now I share mind u, but if only we were able to change Illuminists attitude about sharing period.
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=437099&postcount=16

To be an incessant "hit and runner" is just criminal.

[nukehella]

Like Aerosmith, you may upload a bon jovi cd and post it as similar to aerosmith

I'm pretty sure you can get eternally damned for comparing Aerosmith to Bon Jovi.

[soulxtc]

I'm pretty sure you can get eternally damned for comparing Aerosmith to Bon Jovi.

ROTFL.............

[thepuzzler]

How about an invite then? Yeah no prob, PM me if you're serious. I've invited a few of my mate's who turned into leecher's and were subsequently banned.

It was no skin off my nose, or more importantly, my ratio.

[soulxtc]

Yeah no prob, PM me if you're serious. I've invited a few of my mate's who turned into leecher's and were subsequently banned.

It was no skin off my nose, or more importantly, my ratio.

Have to wait 6 more days before I get invites, so will follow up to see if DM was taken care of.

[Dark Messenger]

Because I feel like Im getting criticized and offred aid at the same time.....dont know how to react.....its all good I guess...BTW DM.....how's that MIVX workin out u bastard? :) Keep finding myself getting a flic, wanting to get it up on my projector only to remember still that Im old school , that I have to burn discs again........discs are so 2005.. :)

really sleepy right now soul...just woke up and surprised by the honesty in your answer. I was having a little fun with you (my cruel side coming out I guess) but seeing this response reminds me of how its no one fun to feel this way...so I'm sorry for making you feel this way.

I think everyone is tired of hearing about me and the Mvix by now but at any rate I'm enjoying this so much. People find it funny when I mix my core beliefs with filesharing: God and KaZaA and think I am joking when I say I love these two things.

You know its very funny...something was funny...anyway at this present time in my life I am finding myself SO BLESSED according to my belief in God that I'm getting rewards like this Mvix player.

I remember having thought about wanting something like this but never knowing a thing like this existed...I said to myself I wish there was something or somehow some way to watch the things I've downloaded to my pc on my tv and now thanks to you and this contest I now have and know the way.

There is a saying that goes 'If you can see it you can be it' which boils down to you can have or achieve anything that you believe you can have or accomplish. I envisioned having this Mvix player much like I envisioned having the desk job that I now have. I saw it in my mind first.

This is a great time in my life where I am achieving my goals and prospering. I call this my seven years of feasting as I've just had seven years of famine.

Anyway I remember an old thread I made about when I lost cable and went back to dailup and how I was shunned by the elite p2p world of irc/dc and now I'm regaining the respect of my peers.

I'm also having fun filling that 300gig hdd up in the mvix player. Having the mvix player and cable internet has changed my life for the better (?) I think. Maybe I need to rethink that...but it has been a lot of fun for me being able to get and play anything I want from the internet.

I've mostly been using the mvix like a backup external drive. I've got it set to receive on my files from newsgroups, emule and BT.

I love having the room to share on it and so far have not experienced any problems with it dying on me.

Oh yeah one other thing...posting on messageboards like this one has always been a bit surreal to me. Even when I get things like this mvix player from real people like you, Jared...its almost still like it comes out of the 'ether'.....something magic to me.

It comes from a place I do not see and know...kind of a magic the way a human being comes into the world from nothing and then leaves and goes back to knowing and our life and time here is like a parenthesis in eternity.

[MC_Justice]

Dude, its all good bro......man this thread's getting way out of hand...... :(

Have you even given it 1 minutes thought?

This is supposed to be a file sharing site and you are telling everyone how not to share.

How would you like it if the other peers in YOUR SWARM all used this software before you managed to complete your download?????

SELFISH SELFISH SELFISH

Zeropaid should be ashamed and so should you

[soulxtc]

Have you even given it 1 minutes thought?

This is supposed to be a file sharing site and you are telling everyone how not to share.

How would you like it if the other peers in YOUR SWARM all used this software before you managed to complete your download?????

SELFISH SELFISH SELFISH

Zeropaid should be ashamed and so should you

Dude A) you're retarded because u obviously havent listned to what the heck Ive been saying, and B) the swarm aint got anything to do with Im talking about. I ws talking about extreme caqses like OINK wheres it a bitch to get one's ratio up, and as far as seeding, I have a dam TV show an movie that Ive been seeding for like 3 weks now because fools like u ainyt downloading enough in the crazy world that is BT.I share plenty u moron. If yer bitter about completeing your DL then stay off the public tracker sites, case closed. That's where the "man": is anyways.

[Auggie2k]

These programs aren't against the law, use them if you wish but if you get caught, don't go crying to mommy.

[MC_Justice]

Dude A) you're retarded because u obviously havent listned to what the heck Ive been saying, and B) the swarm aint got anything to do with Im talking about. I ws talking about extreme caqses like OINK wheres it a bitch to get one's ratio up, and as far as seeding, I have a dam TV show an movie that Ive been seeding for like 3 weks now because fools like u ainyt downloading enough in the crazy world that is BT.I share plenty u moron. If yer bitter about completeing your DL then stay off the public tracker sites, case closed. That's where the "man": is anyways.


From a moderator of such a popular forum, I expected a greater degree of professionalism than 'dude you're retarded'. I'm surprised that you seem unaware of the fact that personal insults and flames do nothing to support your argument and that you represent this site and others are expected to follow your example.

However, whilst ignoring your flames, personal insults, cries of 'moron', spelling mistakes and grammatical errors i'd just like to point out that

If yer bitter about completeing your DL then stay off the public tracker sites, case closed."

you actually mean private sites, even though you repeated 'public' twice.

I'm just a little concerned that as your argument is flimsy, your defence childish and your facts just plain wrong, i'm wondering if you know anything about this subject at all.

First cheating the MPAA and the RIAA and now cheating fellow file-sharers and file-sharing sites.

Nice work. You must be very proud

[soulxtc]

These programs aren't against the law, use them if you wish but if you get caught, don't go crying to mommy.

amen, plus considering that DOWNLOADING COPYRIGHTED MEDIA FILES IS ILLEGAL in the first place, I think it's hilarious that one would take umbrage about "getting ahead" if all else fails.And again, I upload plenty. Demonoid, 170GB UP, 150 GB DL.

[thepuzzler]

This thread needs to die...

[soulxtc]

Done.......................