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meyou123
May 28th, 2006, 01:08 AM
I was told that in the new movie that is comming out that they kill off some main characters. I really think it is stupid to get people used to characters and then kill them off.
Excrement_Cranium
May 28th, 2006, 01:15 AM
Giant fight movie... Brotherhood vs X-Men... someone has to die.... and then you say spoilers?
I was really hoping to have something spoiled....
meyou123
May 28th, 2006, 01:16 AM
Well it IS a spoiler to ME! I just don't understand why they feel a need to kill off MAIN characters. That is kind of like when they decided to kill off captian kirk of star trek, why the hell could they not let him just retire and die of old age?
When you kill off a main character, then that is it! There is no more appearances to be made by that character....unless you raise him from the dead by time warping.
Mels_Smileys45
May 28th, 2006, 01:36 AM
Death is a part of life and gives great weight to any good movie. Problem is, like all super hero comics, the powers that be can't let them stay dead. They always come back, perhaps with a new look or different powers, and that just sucks. Heros who die become truely immortal and live on in our minds. Sometimes it can turn people against a movie though. Look at the Matrix. No one wanted the lovers to die and the backlash was horrible. I thought it fitting myself. But It seems not even Neo can stay dead from what Ive read.
Point is, in movie and comics, dead never seems to be final. Where there is a buck to be made a resurection is always possible. Jesus made a killing with his comeback.
Excrement_Cranium
May 28th, 2006, 04:14 AM
It's really easy with a book like x-men to kill off main characters. Mainly because you have a CAST of characters. It's not like killing off Batman or Superman... the X-men are a TEAM, and when you shed one, another takes that place.
shawners
May 28th, 2006, 07:56 AM
Dude, they killed the characters off since they wont be returning for x-men4.. Contracts are up.. Plus this one didnt have the Night Crawler guy from the second film. Theres alot of good ones who died, xavier, jean, rogue (cured), mystique (cured), cyclopse died, then some joined the cast.. Like angel. Storm survived but Hallie said she wouldnt be returning, so either x-men 4 will have her die in the beginning or just not show up like the nightcrawler dude. Sabertooth and Toad are dead and gone. Its just the way it is.
Excrement_Cranium
May 28th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Halie wasn't going to return to this one.... because she had the monster hit franchise Catwoman!!! Yeah!!!
I am saddened the post prior to this one had no mention of newsgroups.
bobhss
May 28th, 2006, 08:34 PM
Not having read the comics or seen the cartoons, I thought it was very fitting to kill off some of the people. It gave the movie a bettter spin than the feel good everyone's happy at the end movie.
Mels_Smileys45
May 28th, 2006, 09:10 PM
Almost went to see it but then everyone wanted to see the Da Stinky Toad so I said no thanks. May go see X men tomorrow though
meyou123
May 29th, 2006, 02:19 AM
Well I can understand it if they are not making another sequel, but to kill off so many main characters in ONE movie seems a bit much!
I still do not agree that you have to kill off main characters in order for a movie or TV show to be decent. That just makes it that much harder to try to replace that character if and when you do another sequel.
People identify with main characters of a show. That is what makes it worth their while to watch it. But when you kill off the character they was watching the show for, then their attitude can be like... "why did I even take the time to watch that"?
Take Mel Gibson in Braveheart...he goes through all that fighting and survives...only to die at the end...I kinda felt like I was ripped off when I saw the end of that movie! Why? Because I wanted the character to survive..... you may say that that is unrealistic, but it is a SHOW for crying out loud! It does not have to BE EXACTLY like in real life! In real life....Mel Gibsons character probably NEVER would have survived the first BATTLE!
When writers kill off a main character and they are gone, then some watching the show in question for that character don't have anyone on that show to relate to anymore. That can lead to a backlash from fans also...like it did with the last matrix movie!
Mels_Smileys45
May 29th, 2006, 03:55 AM
If a movie can spark that kind of emotion, it must be doing something right. The X-Men's world is full of death and thats what makes it more than the average hero comic. Take Superman, that fool can't die (well actally he has died before but it didn't last) whats he really risking by saving some poor suckers from a burning building. You never think, "Oh SHIT! Supes is gonna burn the fuck up!" because everyone knows you got to have a pocket full of Kryptonite for that ass jack to even get diarrhea (little known fact: SuperMrman gets explosive diarrhea around kryptonite. That part had to be cut out of the movies as it didn't go well with test audiences.)
On to my point, if there is one and I doubt there is. Its sad to see characters go that we have become attached too. It can be hard to accept and bum us out but at least we know how their lives ended. Not knowing can be even worse sometimes. Besides, I bet there are countless other adventures left untold about many of their lives. Hmmm, a little reading may be in order!
The X-men cast has been changing almost since day one. Its whats kept it strong and kept it fresh for all these years. Its good to see that Hollywood can let characters go and not worry about giving everyone a nice happy ending. There are plenty more characters they can use and I'm sure there are plenty of stars who would jump at the chance to play them. IMO though, 3 movies is enough.
Didn't I mention Neo, a few posts up? Uh huh, I think I did.
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meyou123
May 29th, 2006, 04:25 AM
If a movie can spark that kind of emotion, it must be doing something right. The X-Men's world is full of death and thats what makes it more than the average hero comic. Take Superman, that fool can't die (well actally he has died before but it didn't last) whats he really risking by saving some poor suckers from a burning building. You never think, "Oh SHIT! Supes is gonna burn the fuck up!" because everyone knows you got to have a pocket full of Kryptonite for that ass jack to even get diarrhea (little known fact: SuperMrman gets explosive diarrhea around kryptonite. That part had to be cut out of the movies as it didn't go well with test audiences.)
On to my point, if there is one and I doubt there is. Its sad to see characters go that we have become attached too. It can be hard to accept and bum us out but at least we know how their lives ended. Not knowing can be even worse sometimes. Besides, I bet there are countless other adventures left untold about many of their lives. Hmmm, a little reading may be in order!
The X-men cast has been changing almost since day one. Its whats kept it strong and kept it fresh for all these years. Its good to see that Hollywood can let characters go and not worry about giving everyone a nice happy ending. There are plenty more characters they can use and I'm sure there are plenty of stars who would jump at the chance to play them. IMO though, 3 movies is enough.
Didn't I mention Neo, a few posts up? Uh huh, I think I did.
P.S. newsgroups
Well the xmen may be a different story from main comic book characters, but it just seems kinda final to have them die. I still do not think that it adds to a movie or series to have to get used to different characters all the time.
Because just when you are used to a character (In xmen especially), they change it on you. The "professor" that Patrick Stweart played was one of the characters that when they killed him off, I really said to myself...well that's it! They won't be doing another xmen.....why? Because he was the one that brought them all together and he was the one that made it all work. Without him, I don't think that Storm or Wolverine could take his place....no matter what kind of script they came up with.
There are simply some characters in a movie or TV show that when they die, the series seems to die with them. I think the professor was one of those characters.
Mels_Smileys45
May 29th, 2006, 04:44 AM
He has died in the comic before only to come back a few years later. Super powered mutants tend to do that. The worse death to me was when Data was destroyed in the last Star Trek movie. I didn't see that one coming. So yes, I know how you feel but thats how the story goes. It is written so it is scripture.
shawners
May 29th, 2006, 07:25 AM
Well I can understand it if they are not making another sequel, but to kill off so many main characters in ONE movie seems a bit much!
I still do not agree that you have to kill off main characters in order for a movie or TV show to be decent. That just makes it that much harder to try to replace that character if and when you do another sequel.
People identify with main characters of a show. That is what makes it worth their while to watch it. But when you kill off the character they was watching the show for, then their attitude can be like... "why did I even take the time to watch that"?
Take Mel Gibson in Braveheart...he goes through all that fighting and survives...only to die at the end...I kinda felt like I was ripped off when I saw the end of that movie! Why? Because I wanted the character to survive..... you may say that that is unrealistic, but it is a SHOW for crying out loud! It does not have to BE EXACTLY like in real life! In real life....Mel Gibsons character probably NEVER would have survived the first BATTLE!
When writers kill off a main character and they are gone, then some watching the show in question for that character don't have anyone on that show to relate to anymore. That can lead to a backlash from fans also...like it did with the last matrix movie!
William wallace of Braveheart was a TRUE person, Mel Gibson may not of portrayed all the things that went on in the 3 hour movie, and may left some things out. But how he died at the end may resemble the way he actually died. He did die in 1305 by being hang, beheaded, torn apart.
http://www.scotsmart.com/info/histfigures/wallace.html
People and mutants have to die. I hate to see a movie and know with all their powers, they couldnt kill the other mutant. Why watch a fight if no one is going to win? Some mutants only got knocked out and may return for the next x-men, as well as introduce new ones. Every time i see cyclopse and storm, they get their ass handed to them, and then they get up and destroy the ones that knocked them down on their back. The only charachter i miss is mystique. She was badass. I hate to see mutants fight and no real champ. In comic books, no one ever gets destroyed, no one ever dies. It be the end of the story, or forcing writers to make up new people or try to get more people to read a comic book without the main charachters, it be hard for readers to do.
meyou123
May 29th, 2006, 12:09 PM
William wallace of Braveheart was a TRUE person, Mel Gibson may not of portrayed all the things that went on in the 3 hour movie, and may left some things out. But how he died at the end may resemble the way he actually died. He did die in 1305 by being hang, beheaded, torn apart.
http://www.scotsmart.com/info/histfigures/wallace.html
People and mutants have to die. I hate to see a movie and know with all their powers, they couldnt kill the other mutant. Why watch a fight if no one is going to win? Some mutants only got knocked out and may return for the next x-men, as well as introduce new ones. Every time i see cyclopse and storm, they get their ass handed to them, and then they get up and destroy the ones that knocked them down on their back. The only charachter i miss is mystique. She was badass. I hate to see mutants fight and no real champ. In comic books, no one ever gets destroyed, no one ever dies. It be the end of the story, or forcing writers to make up new people or try to get more people to read a comic book without the main charachters, it be hard for readers to do.
Well I seriuosly doubt that Bravehart would have survived the way Mel Gibson did in that movie if it was real life...I am not saying he was not a brave warrior, but fighting all those people at one time? I seriously doubt he could have survived as long as he did. Probably the battles in real life were not just him against so many, but rather him AND his warriors all battling together.
As far as people and mutants "having" to die? Well, you have your opinion and I have mine! I don't think it adds to a story at all to have main characthers die and then have to get "replaced" by some other character who has far less influence on the audience. That just makes it hard for people to get interested in the next movie because it could very well suck, because the characters are not as good as the original ones. And people WILL remember the death of main characters like DATA in the last star trek movie and it can affect sales. Of course, DATA, may make a comeback, because if people remember...all of Data's memory was uploaded into that other android that "looked" exactly like DATA...so a comeback could be possible there.
But with the Professor I simply do not see him being able to return.....he was blown to smitherens! That is kinda hard to write in a "comeback" for...unless as I said they do some kind of time warp...which is lame!
shawners
May 29th, 2006, 12:26 PM
Dude, I dont even remember the last star trek, because it sucked. I'm saying, comic books have to keep readers, so all the mutants keep surviving each battle. IF no one dies in the movie, then there be no point between the x-men. Why would they keep them alive if they may not even be in the next movie?? Wolverine will have his movie comeing out within 2 years, and possibly link that to the next x-men movie in the future. But people get older and there gonna age. Do you want to see a 40 year old man in tights and in costume of super-hero? Some didnt even died, but get cured from the mutant gene. Star trek movie should of died after the third one.. It was no point in it, not even needed. Keep dragging out the same indestructable crew, over and over. Theres a battle, people have to die. Are the evil brotherhood so evil if they dont finish off the job, is their an overall point to knocking someone out to only defeat them in the next episode. X3 was good, no one had expected to see it turn out that way. But if no one died/cured, then if you didnt see them in the next episode. YOu be like where the hell are they?
Mels_Smileys45
May 29th, 2006, 02:19 PM
Not true. Many X-Men have died in the comic. There was even once a story line called the "mutant massacre" where a war killed off many characters. The war even spread out into other books like Spider-man, Dare Devil, ect. As for the professor, his mind could survive on another plain of existence since that is his power anyways.
YWD67
May 29th, 2006, 02:49 PM
If you have not seen the movie then you could not know of some of the suttle and obscure hints that many of those who died did not actualy do so.
Of those who saw the movie, did they show cyclops die? No, you just saw his glasses by the lake after his encounterr with Phoenix. True Rouge got the mutant cure as did Magneto. (unintentionally on his part)
At the end of the moive you see Magneto sitting at a city park chess board playing a game by himself. He takes his fingers and points them at one of the metal chess pieces and the piece shakes slightly. Then the credits start to roll. At this point I left the moive. This leaves the door open for the return of the mutant powers for those who had the cure.
I heard that at the very end of the credits that the voice of Xavier comes form someone in a hospital bed.
Don't know if it that is true or not.
But the other things in the movie leave the door wide open for a return from the grave for many.
Case in point, Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.
I believe the open door was made incase the movie was a big hit. Which from all indications it is.
It is the second largest first day grossing movie in history ($50,000,000). Star Wars: Return of the Sith
is the top opening day money maker.
May be someone else saw some other hints that I may have missed.
pimppoet
May 29th, 2006, 09:54 PM
Yea I heard bout the voice at the bed side.I didnt see the piece move but then again I was sitting by some rude people.Also they gave hints when the professor was talkin 2 the class bout ethnics n talkin about mental transportation. Also they didnt really show what happened with the cure/boy.The movie was koo imo.
Mels_Smileys45
May 29th, 2006, 10:43 PM
If anyone has read the comcis, I havent in years, you sort of know where the story is going. It doesnt follow actual events but many of the same things have happened over the years. I knew Jean Grey would be back at the end of X-Men 2 because that was a huge story line back in the 80's. The professor lives on as a mental projection. Magneto will eventually come to lead the X-men to great things before the professor comes back, so on and so forth. Damn, I might pull out those old comics and read them again. They were pretty damn good.
meyou123
May 30th, 2006, 08:56 AM
Dude, I dont even remember the last star trek, because it sucked. I'm saying, comic books have to keep readers, so all the mutants keep surviving each battle. IF no one dies in the movie, then there be no point between the x-men. Why would they keep them alive if they may not even be in the next movie?? Wolverine will have his movie comeing out within 2 years, and possibly link that to the next x-men movie in the future. But people get older and there gonna age. Do you want to see a 40 year old man in tights and in costume of super-hero? Some didnt even died, but get cured from the mutant gene. Star trek movie should of died after the third one.. It was no point in it, not even needed. Keep dragging out the same indestructable crew, over and over. Theres a battle, people have to die. Are the evil brotherhood so evil if they dont finish off the job, is their an overall point to knocking someone out to only defeat them in the next episode. X3 was good, no one had expected to see it turn out that way. But if no one died/cured, then if you didnt see them in the next episode. YOu be like where the hell are they?
FIRST I really don't care if you like star trek or not! Actually I could care less, I just used it as an illustration. I pointed out what kind of backlash can happen if fans get FED UP with script writers killing off a main character!
Second, That is just YOUR opinion and NOT the ONLY ONE about weather or not the same character should appear in another xmen movie.!! Furthermore I think that it is stupid to say that because someone grows older, then you have to kill them OFF! What for?? And waht the hell does a 40 year old man in tights have to do with anything?? Patrick stewart was in a WHEELCHAIR in case you didn't notice! His character was the BRAINS of the xmen....HE was NOT a superhero so get off your high horse about that!
Third, if you think that someone has to die everytime there is a fight scene in a movie, then we would see a LOT of character's dying! Sorry, but don't think it is right to get an audience used to a character and then kill him off! PERIOD!
meyou123
May 30th, 2006, 09:03 AM
If you have not seen the movie then you could not know of some of the suttle and obscure hints that many of those who died did not actualy do so.
Of those who saw the movie, did they show cyclops die? No, you just saw his glasses by the lake after his encounterr with Phoenix. True Rouge got the mutant cure as did Magneto. (unintentionally on his part)
At the end of the moive you see Magneto sitting at a city park chess board playing a game by himself. He takes his fingers and points them at one of the metal chess pieces and the piece shakes slightly. Then the credits start to roll. At this point I left the moive. This leaves the door open for the return of the mutant powers for those who had the cure.
I heard that at the very end of the credits that the voice of Xavier comes form someone in a hospital bed.
Don't know if it that is true or not.
But the other things in the movie leave the door wide open for a return from the grave for many.
Case in point, Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.
I believe the open door was made incase the movie was a big hit. Which from all indications it is.
It is the second largest first day grossing movie in history ($50,000,000). Star Wars: Return of the Sith
is the top opening day money maker.
May be someone else saw some other hints that I may have missed.
Sorry, but blowing someone to smitherens like the professor was, is kinda final....unless they do like star trek and transport him on the enterprise! LOL!
In the case of magneto, yes there is hope, but a slim one.
In the case of clyclops...IT HAPPENED TO HIM EXACTLY LIKE THE PROFESSOR when he kissed Phoenix...so there is not much hope he survived.
As far as the voice of Xavier?? Who knows? Could have been.
And I have went and seen it recently. But at the beginning I was bummed about going because of what I was told before I actually saw it.
WE_DELIVER
May 30th, 2006, 10:17 AM
In the case of clyclops...IT HAPPENED TO HIM EXACTLY LIKE THE PROFESSOR when he kissed Phoenix...so there is not much hope he survived.
It never does show him being killed....
YWD67
May 30th, 2006, 05:17 PM
One other thing about Cyclops I forgot to mention. When Phoenix/Jean Gre regained consciousness, the Jean Grey persona took control for a short period of time. During that time Wolverine asked her where Cyclops was, and if she had killed him? She never does answer the question and just asked Wolverine to help her.
At this time the Phonenix personality took over and laid Wolverines ass out by throwing him against a solid metal door by using her now out of control psychokinetic powers. I think this was done more so for the fact that Wolverine refused to put out for her.
Hell hath no fury like the wrath of a female X-man scorned.:devil2
Remeber that!!!
Especialy if you ever date a woman with psychokinetic powers. She just might rip your brass cahones off if your idea of a romantic dinner is a hotdog at the 7-11.:icon_shak
WE_DELIVER
May 30th, 2006, 05:21 PM
Hell hath no fury like the wrath of a female X-man scorned.:devil2
A quote said in the movie :-) (When Mystique looses her powers, gets betrayed by and turns in Magneto's location to the authorities.)
meyou123
May 30th, 2006, 06:46 PM
It never does show him being killed....
No, but it does not say he was NOT killed either. But it did happen exactly like the professor, so if HE is alive then the professor should be also. Either that, or both of them are dead.
YWD67
May 31st, 2006, 12:50 AM
A quote said in the movie :-) (When Mystique looses her powers, gets betrayed by and turns in Magneto's location to the authorities.)
RIGHT ON THE MONEY.:icon_thum
Mels_Smileys45
May 31st, 2006, 02:30 AM
No, but it does not say he was NOT killed either. But it did happen exactly like the professor, so if HE is alive then the professor should be also. Either that, or both of them are dead.
Did you not read my post? I know exactly how the story goes! I read the comic book from the time I was 14 to about 18. The Professor is not dead. He can mentally project himself beyond physical form. Magneto gains the trust of the X-Men and leads them for a time, shit goes wrong, professor comes back, stops Magneto. Hope I didn't ruin the next movie for ya.
Now, Simma down now!
meyou123
May 31st, 2006, 03:01 AM
Did you not read my post? I know exactly how the story goes! I read the comic book from the time I was 14 to about 18. The Professor is not dead. He can mentally project himself beyond physical form. Magneto gains the trust of the X-Men and leads them for a time, shit goes wrong, professor comes back, stops Magneto. Hope I didn't ruin the next movie for ya.
Now, Simma down now!
I did read your post and frankly I don't care if you have been reading the comics since you were a BABY! How the hell do YOU know that is what is going to happen in the next movie? Answer YOU DON'T!
The fact is, that movies can vary GREATLY from comic books! So save the smug remarks until you know for sure if the professor is dead or not in the next movie! Just because the comics say this is what happens, does not mean that the movie will go that route. Patrick Stweart could have asked for his character to be killed off so that he did not have to make any more xmen movies or the writers of the movie decided they wanted to do something different with the characters.
Mels_Smileys45
May 31st, 2006, 03:21 AM
Look Ive been being nice to you but to hell with this. I wasnt being a smart ass or anything, its just that I did read X-Men growing up. I know way more about it than you do. It may or may not happen but thats my guess as so far the movies have been faithfull to the comic for the most part.. You need to calm yourself and post like an adult. Its only a movie bub.
WE_DELIVER
May 31st, 2006, 06:41 AM
I did read your post and frankly I don't care if you have been reading the comics since you were a BABY! How the hell do YOU know that is what is going to happen in the next movie? Answer YOU DON'T!
The fact is, that movies can vary GREATLY from comic books! So save the smug remarks until you know for sure if the professor is dead or not in the next movie! Just because the comics say this is what happens, does not mean that the movie will go that route. Patrick Stweart could have asked for his character to be killed off so that he did not have to make any more xmen movies or the writers of the movie decided they wanted to do something different with the characters.
Whats up with the mental breakdowns. It's just a movie. Who knows what they'll make in the next one, if they will make it, and who cares. Chill out man.
meyou123
May 31st, 2006, 02:30 PM
Look Ive been being nice to you but to hell with this. I wasnt being a smart ass or anything, its just that I did read X-Men growing up. I know way more about it than you do. It may or may not happen but thats my guess as so far the movies have been faithfull to the comic for the most part.. You need to calm yourself and post like an adult. Its only a movie bub.
Frankly I don't really care how much you do or don't know about the xmen. You have no right to tell me how to post, when you are also trying to come off like you know everything. And then when I don't agree with you, snap.
Now as far the movie...let me make it clear, you DO NOT KNOW what the next one will be and neither do I. So lets just see what is gonna happen.
meyou123
May 31st, 2006, 02:32 PM
Whats up with the mental breakdowns. It's just a movie. Who knows what they'll make in the next one, if they will make it, and who cares. Chill out man.
It is just a movie, but I got fed up with Mel comming on here andacting like his opinion was the only one. It is not. Period. That is what I got mad about. Hope that clears it up for you. If it doesn't sorry, can't do much more than that.
Mels_Smileys45
May 31st, 2006, 02:39 PM
Re read what I posted then re read what you posted.
Nuff said
Excrement_Cranium
May 31st, 2006, 02:42 PM
What's your mission tonight?
Get laid, get funked!
YWD67
May 31st, 2006, 03:03 PM
I have justed pointed out some points in the film that could give the makers of the movie away to bring back some of the possible dead characters, if they make a 4th movie. Hell who is to say that Jean Greay did not get control of herself when the Phoenix personalty was kissing Cyclops and placed him in the lake in suspended animation like it was believed that happend to her when the flood hit her.
Just won't know till the 4th movie comes out in a couple of years.
Believe me with the money this one is raking in ($122,861,157 in four days) plus future DVD sales down the line, there will be a 4th movie, you can bet on that.:icon_thum
Oh and just to clear things up, Spock had place his mind in the brain of Dr. McCoy at the end of the second Star Trek movie. Watch the first one where he does this in the engine room just as he knocks the doctor out.
This gave the writes an out to bring Spock back and make a 3rd movie
if #2 was a hit. Guess what it was and there was a 3rd,4th,5th,etc.
meyou123
May 31st, 2006, 08:23 PM
Re read what I posted then re read what you posted.
Nuff said
Look, I am tired of this bitchfest. YOU had as much to do with this as I did. Weather or not you admit it is up to you.
WE_DELIVER
May 31st, 2006, 08:25 PM
Look, I am tired of this bitchfest. YOU had as much to do with this as I did. Weather or not you admit it is up to you.
People here are being nice to you man. I dont know if youre trying to start problems, or taking things the wrong way. I recomend you cool off a little.
meyou123
May 31st, 2006, 11:00 PM
People here are being nice to you man. I dont know if youre trying to start problems, or taking things the wrong way. I recomend you cool off a little.
Well the least you can do is also take into account that mabye there was a REASON that I got mad? Mabye you should read all of the posts and then decide.
Now, if he did not mean to be condescening, then that is cool. But it was his attitude of "I have read the coimics, therefore I know more than you" that had nothing to do with weather or not there was going to be another xmen movie.
Either way, I am through. Post all you want.
bobhss
June 1st, 2006, 01:25 AM
The worse death to me was when Data was destroyed in the last Star Trek movie. I didn't see that one coming.
Agreed. That was a major loss for me, having spent a good seven years of my life getting to know and love the character Data. By laying his life down for another he proved he was human (at least that's the way I rationalized it.)
Mels_Smileys45
June 1st, 2006, 02:35 AM
So I like to read, I wasn't fussing at anyone at all. X-Men movies follow the story line of the comics somewhat and I said it was my opinion that was what was going to happen. Getting offended when other express their opinions is a sign of a small mind. You had no reason to get mad, you did so on your own accord. Most people here were trying to make you feel better but your too much of a jerk to figure that out. You were leaving butt streaks in the thread before you jumped my case. Im glad youre now done, this was begining to leave a shit smell in the zp hallway.
I hoe there is an X4 and they kill off everyone in it.
xeroinsanity
June 1st, 2006, 03:03 AM
Just to set you're frivolous little minds at ease... As far as I know, there is not going to be an Xmen 4! So not only are these characters that you are sniffling about dead but so is the XMEN movie franchise! Not a for sure thing just what I've heard. I can't remember where I heard it exactly but I believe it was when my wife was watching Martha Stewart and Hugh Jackman was on. Martha asked him if there was going to be an X4 and he basically said no there isn't but there IS going to be a wolverine movie. EVEN IF THERE WAS though there is nothing saying that they are following a paticular storyline. So who knows what will happen... NOONE so Mels_Smileys45 shut your face cause you don't know jack!!! or jill.... And for the people who are complaining about Star Trek Characters being killed off.... get over it!!! The writers have to throw in a twist now and again and if you could do a better job, you'd have their job and they'd be bitching about how not enough characters have died off! Besides! Data is a created being he was even in one episode able to create another being like him but capable of feeling! so there is nothing saying he can't be re created... the new and improved Data that can use conjunctions yay!!!! That's my two cents!
Mels_Smileys45
June 1st, 2006, 06:37 AM
Just to set you're frivolous little minds at ease... As far as I know, there is not going to be an Xmen 4! So not only are these characters that you are sniffling about dead but so is the XMEN movie franchise! Not a for sure thing just what I've heard. I can't remember where I heard it exactly but I believe it was when my wife was watching Martha Stewart and Hugh Jackman was on. Martha asked him if there was going to be an X4 and he basically said no there isn't but there IS going to be a wolverine movie. EVEN IF THERE WAS though there is nothing saying that they are following a paticular storyline. So who knows what will happen... NOONE so Mels_Smileys45 shut your face cause you don't know jack!!! or jill.... And for the people who are complaining about Star Trek Characters being killed off.... get over it!!! The writers have to throw in a twist now and again and if you could do a better job, you'd have their job and they'd be bitching about how not enough characters have died off! Besides! Data is a created being he was even in one episode able to create another being like him but capable of feeling! so there is nothing saying he can't be re created... the new and improved Data that can use conjunctions yay!!!! That's my two cents!
Nice first post! Not! Sure I do not know 100% whats going to happen and I stated its just my fucking OPINION based on what i fucking read. At least I have read the fucking books and know the mother fucking history of the fucking characters! So far, while not following one particular story line, the history of the characters has followed the books very tightly and thats where I draw my opinion from. What the hell is fucking wrong with saying what I know about the fucking stories!? I swear some people are just stupid. Your two (s)cents add up to jack shit. Now fall back in it and look for your brains. ass jack. Hope you didnt eat any peanuts or it might be hard to locate it.
This shit isnt that fucking serious. I was trying to console one fucking person by offering a possible explanation. If you can't understand that somethings wrong with you and I'm sorry for that. Honestly, WTF?
If you look at the BOX Office you will come to realize, there will be an X4. Hollywood and Marvel will not miss milking another 100+ million from this one. Bank on it
I guess ZP needed a kick in the ass to liven it up. Go ahead, kick me around some more. Why not. Don't pussy out on me now!
YWD67
June 1st, 2006, 12:41 PM
Hey he makes a valid point though Mel. If the information came from the Marth Stewart Show then it must be true.:icon_joke :icon_joke :icon_joke
My God Martha does not have a clue what the X-men movie is. She probably thinks it is a movie about male Porn actors.:icon_comp :icon_comp
Auggie2k
June 1st, 2006, 01:00 PM
Believe me with the money this one is raking in ($122,861,157 in four days) plus future DVD sales down the line, there will be a 4th movie, you can bet on that..Very true, doesn't even have to be all that good. Like with clothes, you just paying for the label. Look at the likes of the Terminator.
Excrement_Cranium
June 1st, 2006, 01:57 PM
Honestly, trying to state that there will be no more X-men movies is like saying there would be no more Batman movies or Superman movies... no more spiderman.
What we have seen is an expansion on palpable character franchises. Not to mention, it has all done well enough for Marvel, at least, to invest in trying to start their own movie studio. With the range of characters and material comic companies could supply us endlessly with varying films in to eternity.
Mels_Smileys45
June 1st, 2006, 04:23 PM
Fuck! The one post wonder wimped out on me! I wanted to hear more wisdumb from this beautiful mind.
Excrement_Cranium
June 10th, 2006, 01:08 PM
Don't know if this was addressed, but after all the credits, Moira MacTaggert is working on someone, and he says "Hello, Moira".... it's Professor X... so he aint dead, bitches!!!!
Mels_Smileys45
June 10th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Don't know if this was addressed, but after all the credits, Moira MacTaggert is working on someone, and he says "Hello, Moira".... it's Professor X... so he aint dead, bitches!!!!
Yeah, Watchdog pointed that out way back, some people ignored it and went off on a rant anyways. I think most people watched a cam version with the credits hacked off or jumped out of their seats to get out first, thus they have no clue. I myself almost always stay and watch the credits.
moneoa
June 10th, 2006, 03:38 PM
It was good, though the showdown between Iceman and Pyro was pretty yawn inspiring.
Potato
June 11th, 2006, 07:44 PM
I heard that at the very end of the credits that the voice of Xavier comes form someone in a hospital bed.
Don't know if it that is true or not.
Don't know if this was addressed, but after all the credits, Moira MacTaggert is working on someone, and he says "Hello, Moira".... it's Professor X... so he aint dead, bitches!!!!
He says, "Hello Moira."
She says, "Charles!" in a gaspy voice.
Mels_Smileys45
June 11th, 2006, 09:17 PM
He says, "Hello Moira."
She says, "Charles!" in a gaspy voice.
Glad you finally joined the rest of the world and watched this one. Not too bad a movie :icon_comp
Potato
June 11th, 2006, 10:32 PM
Glad you finally joined the rest of the world and watched this one. Not too bad a movie :icon_comp
It's been a busy two weeks for me. :p
Theinfamousone
June 12th, 2006, 01:49 AM
Obviously Magneto is going to get his powers back. And if he gets his powers back, everyone else will get their powers back too (Mystique, Rogue etc) unless there was something special about the way he was cured. I bet that they dont even know if Cyclops is dead, he may come back if they want him to, or he may be dead if they him to be, I dont think that he has done enough fighting, he used his power like once in all three movies. I think Storm had her hiatus, she's gone, Wolverine is still alive and well and he's who everyone likes. The showdown was lame, they could have totally wrecked buildings and cars and things like that while rocking eachother, but instead they didn't blow up anything. I bet that the next movie will have Apocalypse and its going to be sweet, atleast that's what I hope. Who knows, they may make it pretty lame and have some more lame fights that dont push them to their limits, we'll see.
Excrement_Cranium
June 12th, 2006, 08:13 AM
Well, if they even try to slightly rip off the Pheonix saga at all, Jean Grey won't be dead either. The Jean Grey that died would be a clone, and the real Jean Grey would be in suspended animation (much like the "cocoon" they alluded to in the movie). The same may very well be possible for Cyclops.
Though, they seem to have this trilogy deal with movies.. hmph.
If they are wanting to push trilogies, it would be nice to see them follow a storyarc where the groundwork has been laid well enough to stretch three movies.
Unsueable Davey Brown
June 13th, 2006, 05:28 AM
Here's the Professor Xavier thing after the credits of which you speak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhsAxVIwFDQ&search=xmen
Here's Fox Head Tom Rothman talking about future X men movies after X men 3.
http://www.themovieblog.com/archives/2006/01/fox_confirms_xmen_4.html
Jared Moya
June 13th, 2006, 02:07 PM
Don't know if this was addressed, but after all the credits, Moira MacTaggert is working on someone, and he says "Hello, Moira".... it's Professor X... so he aint dead, bitches!!!!
I though so too, but doesn't Pheonix make him "explode?" Its kinda hard to rehabilitate from that one. ..... :P
YWD67
June 13th, 2006, 03:44 PM
You never see any blood or gore from any of the people that Phoenix makes disapear. And I think the word disapear is more discriptive then explode.
The victims of her physical tirade just seemed to break into small pieces that just disapeared. May be the makers of the film did this rather then show blood and guts and have to give the movie an "R" rating. Or perhaps this was done as to raise the question that maybe Phoenix killed no one and all those that disapeared are infact somewhere else or in some other condition.
Hate to bring up a terrible movie, but remember the moive Tron. I am not saying the victims were digatized but maybe they suffered so other kind of transition. There are way to many questions left unaswered in this film to think that this is the last one of the series.
Potato
June 13th, 2006, 05:16 PM
Remember in the beginning when he was talking to the class about a person with basically no brain activity... and transferring one person's consciousness to that person... what would happen? It was something like that anyways. She was the one in the clip he showed the class.
I dunno where I was going with this.