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Mels_Smileys45
April 28th, 2006, 11:17 PM
What's in a name?

http://i3.tinypic.com/wqzcde.jpg

Yesterday, Nintendo rocked the gaming world announcing the final name for their long hyped up coming console. It's out with the Revolution, and in with Wii. It's caught everyone by surprise, with the forums exploding in an overabundance of toilet humour and 'Wii' punnery. With this in mind, we decided to all sit down around our metaphorical table and discuss Nintendo's latest move...

Jeremy, Contributor:


From a personal stand point, the name change is irrelevant to me. All I need to know is that it is a console from Nintendo and I know that it will satisfy my gaming needs. However, it's the others that I'm worried about. Sure, most Nintendo fans will buy it and be very happy. This may even be more so if it lives up to its innovative promises. The thing that worries me is that this name change will kill a lot of the appeal that the Revolution/Wii had in the first place. Just like the cartridges did it for the N64, and the purple colour did it for the GameCube.

Nintendo keep saying that they've learned from their mistakes but they are still shooting themselves in the foot on a regular basis. It is also another sign from Nintendo that they don't give a rats' about anything other than their own backyard. Despite being a global brand, Nintendo continue to go about their own business and rely on the world to feed off their scraps.

Simply, I think that it is a bad name because it will most likely become synonymous with another generation of damaging yet totally avoidable errors. It's not just the name but the implications and actions that follow. It may be a good move in Japan (and inadvertedly, France), where Wii is obviously much easier to roll off that Revolution. It may be a decent move for Nintendo to get a simple recognisable phrase not unlike DS ("Dee Es"). There is (arguably) a logical reason behind it, but it cannot be destined for long term success.

Perception is an important thing. With this name, now comes a new preception - and you can look in any forum to see what kind of perception has been generated in a matter of hours. Unless the last few secrets of the machine are really revelational (they may be), I cannot see how this is ment to appeal to the people who aren't already guaranteed to buy it. Yeah, the video is nice and the new icon looks good, but they feel arbitrary in the comparison to the "real" implications. I can already see myself looking three to four years down the track and finding myself in another struggle to finding games and units on shop shelves. Man, I really hope it's region free...

The N64 and GCN had some of the best games of their time. And as we can see, that's counted for little in the face of perception. We can say that iPod, Yahoo and Google are now insititutional, despite the initial apprehensions - but Wii? For every person that says grow-up, another five toilet jokes pop-up. Unfortunately, it looks like it's the true minority that will be suffering in the face of human irrationality... Again. And all because of one three letter word.


Source: http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=4349&sid=337f60d57910e8b5e56accfdf3b0a4f8




For Nintendo, The Glory Is In the Game
Washinton Post

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It's almost a radical thought in the video game industry these days: What if a new game console were actually just about the games -- and not about having a zillion other multimedia features?

That's the question posed by Nintendo's new console, scheduled for debut later this year. The Wii -- pronounced "we" -- does not feature scorchingly advanced technology, compared with its rivals, Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Sony's upcoming PlayStation 3. And, unlike the competition, the device does not push a DVD replacement technology or strive to be the living room's all-purpose media center.

It's almost as if Nintendo is sometimes in a different industry than Microsoft and Sony.

"Those companies really have their eyes on each other," said Perrin Kaplan, Nintendo vice president of marketing. "They want the same place in the home. We just aim to be the best at what we do -- the gaming experience."

Kaplan would not say how much the Wii will cost, except that it will be less than the competition. Microsoft's Xbox 360 costs $400. Sony has warned that the PlayStation 3, which does not yet have a price tag, will be expensive when it is released later this year. Some analysts think the price of Nintendo's device will be about $250.

Nintendo's biggest risk with the Wii may be the game controller, a radical departure from the two-handed, button-covered ones that come with most consoles. Wii players will have a motion-sensitive controller that can be used with one hand. To swing a bat or cast a fishing pole in a still-hypothetical game, players might be able to make a similar motion with their controller, rather than pushing buttons and pulling triggers.

Some analysts predict that the innovative device will allow for new kinds of games -- especially the kind that might be more light and social, a contrast to long and intense solo-player games such as Oblivion, the recent Xbox 360 hit from Bethesda Softworks. "The controller makes the box significantly more interesting than the other two consoles," said Michael Pachter, an analyst at Wedbush Morgan Securities. Game publisher THQ Inc. is developing games such as a new SpongeBob SquarePants title for the Wii. Kelly Flock, executive vice president of publishing at THQ, said the Nintendo controller inspired some of the game's action, though the SpongeBob game will be available on at least one other console.

The Wii's lower-tech profile gives it another advantage that game publishers may appreciate: Costs for developing games for the Wii could be a fraction of what it takes to develop games for the other consoles.

In an industry where game development costs are approaching $20 million for the Wii's more complex rivals, that gives the Wii a definite appeal.

"It means that people will be able to make creative risks" on games for the Wii, Flock said.

Full Story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/28/AR2006042802071.html

Lord_of_the_Dense
April 29th, 2006, 03:28 PM
The new name is silii.

shawners
April 29th, 2006, 03:51 PM
Its a good name.. ... W HHHHHHHHHHHH YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.. ??? WHY ?? Give it up to Sony Playstation to destroy the competition.

Signa
April 29th, 2006, 06:21 PM
im not convinced its a bad choice in the name. i think they should have done better, but they *are* trying to appeal to non-gamers, like grandma and grandpa. im sure its alot more beliveable to picture a person older than gaming is, to buy a system called a "wee" instead of a "revolution." old ppl are turned off by cool sounding things all the time. just think though, "wee" for a universal game system isnt half as retarded as "iPod" is for a music box. we just dont think about it because its so damn popular.

davetheman
April 29th, 2006, 08:00 PM
That is one lame name.

black_magiic
April 29th, 2006, 09:43 PM
I'll probably get one :)

lifehacker
April 30th, 2006, 06:17 AM
I have to agree the name sounds pretty retarded.

Lehk
April 30th, 2006, 11:22 AM
the name is Fake

look at all the graphics, no trademark indicator, search TESS, no trademark registration.

there is no way in hell they would overlook the trademark before releasing the name publicly.

search for yourself if you want
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=login&p_lang=english&p_d=trmk

derekb
April 30th, 2006, 12:01 PM
According to the Nintendo website it is true:icon_scra

http://revolution.nintendo.com/

black_magiic
April 30th, 2006, 12:15 PM
the name is Fake

look at all the graphics, no trademark indicator, search TESS, no trademark registration.

there is no way in hell they would overlook the trademark before releasing the name publicly.

search for yourself if you want
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=h13pc1.1.1

The Wii logo on their website has a tm beside it?

mountain_rage
April 30th, 2006, 02:18 PM
Its definately the real name and logo, nintendo reps have been defending it since the annoucement. Its a pretty stupid name in terms of the current market but they are seeking to expand the video game market to everyone, kids, senior citizens, women andmen. I cant see most males aged 12-30 liking the name, however seniors, women and parents might be less intimidated by a simple name that doesnt evoke power.

Andromedon
April 30th, 2006, 04:12 PM
I think those on here who are trying to say that nintendo is trying to appeal to the older generation are right. However, I think its a bit crazy to bypass the younger generation - lets face it, the young kids are the ones playing the games!

It just goes to show how desperate Nintendo really is. How many older folks do you know play video games? I only know 1 above the age of fourty (only 3 thirty year olds) and I've been around the video game market for years.

Nintendo had best be showering these older people with solitaire and really...and I mean really SIMPLE games that these older people can understand before subscribing to this grand idea of appealing to them. Honestly, I don't think its gonna happen. It won't last for more than two years (thats because there are still many interested nintendo players out there that will keep it afloat that long)

It will take a MAJOR REVOLUTION to make this Wii work! Nintendo should go the way of Sega and start making games for other systems. Let Sony and Microsoft duel for supremacy in the console market.

Signa
April 30th, 2006, 04:25 PM
the name is Fake

your post is fake:icon_tong

Lehk
April 30th, 2006, 04:35 PM
the name still isn't in TESS, though they have updated images with (TM)

Lehk
April 30th, 2006, 04:37 PM
Let Sony and Microsoft duel for supremacy in the console market.

What if i don't want to pay or can't afford to pay $600+ for a suxbox360 or a piss3

Mels_Smileys45
April 30th, 2006, 05:32 PM
Nintendo may not sell as many consoles as the other guys but they do make dollars on every one sold. The other two are known to lose alot on every console sold in a bid to buy the market. Keep on truckin Nintendo! (but change the name for the love of Donkey Kong Jr!)

Andromedon
April 30th, 2006, 05:52 PM
Mels-smiley's and Lehk, very good points. The price tells all as far as Nintendo's other agenda. They might have something going for them on how the economy is right now (with soaring gas prices and the inevitable oil crisis) and two incredibly pricey units it is competing against.

But...and there is a big BUT here, there are too many kids who want a Playstation or an Xbox and will do anything (including paying beacou money for) to get one or the other. I just don't see Nintendo doing much at all, my standing for making a profit for two years still stands.

mountain_rage
April 30th, 2006, 09:26 PM
It will all come down to their nunchuku remote with dual accelerometer's, if they do make good of their promise of new inovative games it may just be enough for them to gain some market share. How many star wars nerds around the world have been waiting for the chance to swing a lightsaber in a game? Thats alot of cash from just one group of fanatics.

black_magiic
April 30th, 2006, 10:13 PM
I am beyond psyched to try the controller.

Theinfamousone
May 1st, 2006, 01:18 AM
I don't know if Wii is really going to be anymore appealing to old fogies as it is to teenagers. Teenagers will always be the ones playing video games and there's nothing that anyone can do to change that except make the games old fogyish, like fishing, and dencher shopping. Sucky name, that sucks, but that's ok, I don't have time to play Nintendo that much anyways and I still have about 3 thousand regular nintendo games left to beat before I move onto super nintendo games and I'm not getting any younger. Does anyone know if the Wii will play cartridge games from the old consoles?

mountain_rage
May 1st, 2006, 05:53 AM
The wii will only be able to play roms downloaded from nintendo's online store (at least out of the box) , basically a live arcade type deal. They havent anounced prices yet but they will offer games from nes, snes, nintendo 64, turbo grafx and sega gen, saturn might also be on that list.

black_magiic
May 1st, 2006, 06:54 AM
I think it would be sweet if that live arcade dealy supported online multiplayer :D

Andromedon
May 1st, 2006, 08:19 AM
Being an original Nintendo fanboy, don't take me as a complete basher, I'm only stating what I beleive to be the truth.

I think they might have something with that controller, which is another reason I gave it two years of making a profit. They better have support for the older controllers like one made in a traditional style - sold separately and maybe if the new designed controller fails and sold with the next round of Wii video game systems.

MPXX
May 1st, 2006, 12:49 PM
They better have support for the older controllers like one made in a traditional style - sold separately and maybe if the new designed controller fails and sold with the next round of Wii video game systems.


There's four Gamecube controller ports and two Gamecube memory card slots on the Wii, so it'll support traditional controllers from the get go.

You'll probably see a batch of third party NES/SNES/N64/Genesis to Gamecube controller adapters when Wii comes out...

Andromedon
May 1st, 2006, 01:02 PM
Well then, it looks as if Nintendo has thought out the dreadful scenario of the new controllers failing. I do like the ROM support for older games from different gaming systems of the past. It does appeal to me more now than it ever did.

Unfortunately for anyone who has done any research into older video games, they can find any game or emulator that would play on the computer for free, although, I must admit, it is painstaking configuring each one with controllers you hook up.

If Nintendo makes this sytem very user friendly they could very well be the poor man/older gamer/new concept system that takes the other new gaming systems by surprise with its simplicity and low cost.

Psilaxs
May 1st, 2006, 02:57 PM
"they have been defending it since they announced it"

That right there should tell the idiots it is a BAD NAME. If you have to publicly defend the name of your product as soon as you release it should that NOT tell you it is a bad move? I heard NOBODY complain about "Revolution" Not even Microsoft and Sony fanboys, it was a very cool name. Now they have a real pisser of a name (pun intended) and they expect to take the market by storm? They need better P.R consultants.

Ultima-X
May 24th, 2006, 01:48 PM
I give Nintendo 3 more years, then they will be outta here!

mountain_rage
May 24th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Contrary to the belief of most people nintendo isnt going to go under anytime soon, they havnt lost money on any consol except on maybe virtual boy in the history of the company. The n64 made more money then the playstation way back when even tho sony sold more consoles. Even with the gamecube they were reporting very large profits. Not only that but they have like a 8 billion dollards surplus if they ever run into a rainy day. So to think that nintendo will dissapear one day is not very logical. They dont lead in sales of system all the time but do lead in profits usually.

Signa
May 24th, 2006, 08:16 PM
as far as rom support goes i think they need to make it open for all roms to work from the net. why the hell would they do that you ask? because anyone who is smart enough to do that will already have been playing old classics on their PC and have no need to bother with the Wii. hell, i would buy the wii just to play those old games on the TV. they really have nothing to lose by letting people use what they already have. sure, it may put a dent in their online sales of the roms, but a lot of ppl will buy the roms anyways because it will be an offical leagle copy of the game.

derekb
May 26th, 2006, 09:37 AM
And in todays newspapers it was announced it is only gonna cost $250 in the US and the equivelant of $220 in Japan
I'm expecting about £150/£160 in the UK
I'll be getting one at those prices!

mountain_rage
May 26th, 2006, 02:01 PM
They havnt specified the price yet, they only mentioned that it would be less then 250$

-0-BACKLASH-0-
May 27th, 2006, 04:44 AM
I think it's pronounced "we."

Signa
July 20th, 2006, 04:58 AM
i found out why "revolution" didnt stay as the name of the system. a lady came into my work who was the wife of some one in the design department or somthing like that... whatever... but she said that the reason that they changed it was because "revolution" doesnt transtlate well into other languges and not have some bit of conotation of "terrorism". nintenton REALLY doesnt need to name their system "overthrow your government"

rainbowdemon
July 20th, 2006, 08:50 PM
and I mean really SIMPLE games that these older people can understand

Blow it out your ass.