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black_magiic
April 15th, 2006, 03:14 PM
Just reinstalled windows from an acronis image. I'm using VLC media player and trying to play WMV files but it just plays the audio. No video what gives. It worked before.
DigitalJunkie
April 15th, 2006, 05:10 PM
Probably some codecs are missing!
black_magiic
April 15th, 2006, 05:24 PM
I installed the K-Lite Mega Codec pack and still no dice.
DigitalJunkie
April 15th, 2006, 05:37 PM
I don't play or keep WMV files much, have you tried convert the file to AVI format to see that will play?
Mels_Smileys45
April 15th, 2006, 06:21 PM
Has to be some sort of setting since VLC doesnt need any codecs to decompress video. Thats the whole point of VLC, skipping all those messy codec packs. I would download a fresh version of VLC and re instal it
black_magiic
April 15th, 2006, 06:32 PM
Just did. Installed version 0.8.4a and it still only plays the audio. I've enabled the video channel still nothing. Any other thoughts.
Mels_Smileys45
April 15th, 2006, 06:45 PM
DId this same file play on VLC? Some WMV content will not play on VLC, blame MS for trying to stop a good product, there is no reason I can think of that it would not play other than that. Unless your HD is a mess which I don't think is the case.
black_magiic
April 15th, 2006, 06:48 PM
DId this same file play on VLC? Some WMV content will not play on VLC, blame MS for trying to stop a good product, there is no reason I can think of that it would not play other than that. Unless your HD is a mess which I don't think is the case.
It's played fine before all the ones I have tried have played fine. My HD should be pretty good being a fresh install. I'm not sure what else todo. I really don't want to have to install WMP
shallowhall
April 15th, 2006, 08:27 PM
the samething is happening to me on my new computer, when I download the vlc, it tells me that it is corrupt
black_magiic
April 15th, 2006, 08:40 PM
I tried using the 0.8.5 beta but still no luck
shallowhall
April 15th, 2006, 09:36 PM
do you get the corrupt file like mine? and if that is the case what can be done?
black_magiic
April 15th, 2006, 09:55 PM
Nope It works fine and stuff loads up ok but when I Try to play wmv files it just plays the audio without the video.
Mels_Smileys45
April 15th, 2006, 10:38 PM
I'd grab media player classic. Its my favorite and its always good to have as a stand by. It will be good to try it out and see if something else has caused a problem with VLC's decompression process, which is what I suspect
Jorge
April 15th, 2006, 11:01 PM
I'd grab media player classic. Its my favorite and its always good to have as a stand by. It will be good to try it out and see if something else has caused a problem with VLC's decompression process, which is what I suspect

I agree, i got MPC through the ace mega codecs pack. i downloaded a cam and i couldn't get it to play on any player, once i installed the pack, MPC played the file fine.
black_magiic
April 16th, 2006, 12:08 AM
When trying to play the files in MPC I get "cannot render file" or something to that affect.
multi
April 16th, 2006, 12:10 AM
.wmv has always looked crappy on VLC for me
always had some sort of picture though
some weird double imaging effect
black_magiic
April 16th, 2006, 12:12 AM
It's always worked fine in past. Played everything fine for me. Including these videos. I can't imagine whats going wrong.
Mels_Smileys45
April 16th, 2006, 01:06 AM
When trying to play the files in MPC I get "cannot render file" or something to that affect.



Bad news. When its a codec problem MPC will generate a error message and tell you a bunch of mumbo jumbo for the problem.

http://i3.tinypic.com/vngpj4.gif
Like this


It will usually then try to decompress the file itself and play it anyway.

The only time I have seen the "can not render file" message is when the video stream itself is broken. Im 95% sure that the video in question has a broken video stream or rather, Its missing a large chunk of data or perhaps all video data. I don't know what happened to it between the time you were playing it and now but I feel safe in saying its now garbage. Sorry
black_magiic
April 16th, 2006, 01:11 AM
Bad news. When its a codec problem MPC will generate a error message and tell you a bunch of mumbo jumbo for the problem. The only time I have seen the "can not render file" message is when the video stream itself is broken. Im 100% sure that the video in question has a broken video stream or rather, Its missing a large chunk of data or perhaps all video data. I don't know what happened to it between the time you were playing it and now but I feel safe in saying its now garbage. Sorry

oh dear lord is that ever bad news. I'll try some others but shit man this is like all my Kung-Fu videos I've made and stuff. If this stuff went tits up thats bad.
voltRis
April 16th, 2006, 01:17 AM
from the vlc wiki (http://wiki.videolan.org/index.php/WMV):


WMV3, the Video part of Windows Media 9, is not supported in VLC. However there ase some fixes.

If you're using Windows and have Windows Media Player 9/10 installed, VLC should be able to play these files, by using Microsoft's own files. Or, if you're using Linux, see the common problems page for a workarround.

some codecs VLC can't include by default due to licensing issues. they're just a handful, but enough to keep a spare media player handy. you might want to check to make sure wmp 9/10 is installed, that could be the difference between your installs.
Mels_Smileys45
April 16th, 2006, 01:21 AM
oh dear lord is that ever bad news. I'll try some others but shit man this is like all my Kung-Fu videos I've made and stuff. If this stuff went tits up thats bad.



I may have jumped the gun a bit. Let me finish reading a bit and see what I can dig up. One question, How were these videos stored? On DVD or hard disc?
black_magiic
April 16th, 2006, 01:22 AM
Ok heres a curveball for you. They play fine on another pc. Ok I've tried two sets of these videos. One was stored on an external hard drive then copied to my internal one after reinstalling windows. The other was stored on a cd with a back up of my website I did about a month ago. They don't play on my pc but they play on the other pc in the house.
Mels_Smileys45
April 16th, 2006, 01:27 AM
On your new instal, you have no form of WMP installed other than classic? This was an XP mod is what Im asking
black_magiic
April 16th, 2006, 01:29 AM
Yes it is a custom install disk with no wmp. However this is an image from a previous install that worked fine. The only difference with this one is I have nVidia drivers now instead of ATI. Otherwise it's identical to my past install which played stuff fine even without wmp. Should I try reinstalling again with a custom disk that has wmp?
Mels_Smileys45
April 16th, 2006, 01:37 AM
Im thinking the image was somehow missing something and not Indentical, maybe a prt of window that could not be imaged, I don't really know about this. I would stick with the instal, Im doing a bit of reading on this subject right now. You may want to look here http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx?displang=en&qstechnology= and not download WMP 10 but one of the others just so you will have playback functions. It surely wont hurt. Im sure this has to be what is causing the problem and I feel bad it took this long to make the jumps in logic to figure this out.

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You may want to look here http://www.click-now.net/download/Zoom_Player_WMV_Pro.htm It has some info you may need to read about video cards and such. I think this will put you on the right path. Ive heard good things about that, maybe some of the zoom player people can speak up for it.
black_magiic
April 16th, 2006, 01:47 AM
Thanks for the help mels you're a trooper. I'll try playing with it a bit more tommorow. Do I download the codec pack of windows site and with the other link I need zoom player to use that don't I?
Mels_Smileys45
April 16th, 2006, 02:00 AM
Thanks for the help mels you're a trooper. I'll try playing with it a bit more tommorow. Do I download the codec pack of windows site and with the other link I need zoom player to use that don't I?

Sorry I keep getting sidetracked, Im trying to help someone else on winmx too. I would try grabbing the latest directx and media player 9. I think thats all you need really. I would forget about zoomplyer unless ome other member recomends it. I was thinking it may help in authenticating the file but that shouldnt be a problem youre having.



Ughhh edit: I see you can't get WMP 9 anymore. Ive never upgraded to 10. Ive always feared it for some reason. Don't know why
napho
April 16th, 2006, 03:54 AM
I have lots of players. One of these usually plays everything


http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Video-Players/KMPlayer.shtml

http://mplayerc.sourceforge.net/
Mels_Smileys45
April 16th, 2006, 04:38 AM
I believe he has more than just a player problem napho. Windows is missing something that WMV files need to decompress. MPC or VLC will not decompress any WMV files after a custom format from an image. WMV should be the one file type anyone can play with MPC. I still stand by the recomendation of installing a version of WMP since that is whats missing from your PC.