Anyone wish to join a "darknet"?

[Dark Messenger]

Please post here.

[Krell]

Darknet

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This article is about private file sharing networks. For machines or clusters of machines unreachable by other computers on the internet, see Dark internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_internet). For website content not indexed by search engines, see Deep web (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_web).
A Darknet is a private virtual network where users only connect to people they trust. Typically such networks are small, often with fewer than 10 users each. In its most general meaning, a Darknet can be any type closed, private group of people communicating, but the name is most often used specifically for file sharing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing) networks.

The term originated from The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution, an article by Peter Biddle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Biddle), Paul England (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_England_%28researcher%29&action=edit), Marcus Peinado (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marcus_Peinado&action=edit), and Bryan Willman (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bryan_Willman&action=edit), four employees of Microsoft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft). They argued that the presence of the darknet was the major hindrance to the development of workable DRM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management) technologies. This term has since seen usage in major media sources, including Rolling Stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stone), The Economist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist), and Wired magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_magazine), and it is also the title of a book by J.D. Lasica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.D._Lasica).

When used to describe a file sharing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing) network, the term is synonymous with the perhaps more widely used "friend-to-friend (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend-to-friend)" - both describing networks where users' computers share files only with trusted friends. The most widespread file sharing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing) networks like Kazaa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazaa), and even heavily encrypted networks like Freenet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet), are not darknets since peers will communicate with anybody else on the network. The perhaps most widely used darknet software is Nullsoft's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullsoft) WASTE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WASTE). The developers of Freenet have stated that they are working on a new version that will be a darknet, which unlike typical Darknets, will be capable of supporting potentially millions of users using an application of small world theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_world_phenomenon).

Early versions of Apple's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer) iTunes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes) allowed users to specify the IP of a remote subnet and share their music with users in that subnet in a Darknet like fashion. Newer versions disable that functionality, but still allow users to stream music within their own subnet; hacks such as ourTunes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OurTunes) allow users on the same iTunes network to download each
others' music with no loss of quality.

The computer game Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy%27s_Splinter_Cell:_Chaos_Theory) mentioned an interesting concept for a wireless Darknet that used non-standard frequencies, possibly illegal unlicensed ones, to make it very difficult for any signal to be intercepted. With sophisticated hardware and use of spread-spectrum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread-spectrum) random frequency hopping over a large frequency band of, say, 900MHz to 10 or even 50GHz, this could be a very effective method of security, and indeed is similar to the random frequency hopping that is used by military radios to make signal interception very difficult. Note that this, in and of itself, is pure fiction as this method would only serve to make presense of the communication very obvious.
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[URL="http://www.bearcave.com/misl/misl_tech/msdrm/darknet.htm)
The Darknet and the Future of Content Distribution (http://msl1.mit.edu/ESD10/docs/darknet5.pdf) (PDF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF))
DEF CON 13 Darknet Slides by Oskar Sandberg and Ian Clarke (http://www.math.chalmers.se/%7eossa/defcon13/)Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet)"






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[Mels_Smileys45]

youre soaking in my darknet right now! lol


Its the only way to go! I wish my upload was faster though

[shawners]

Takes me two and half, to three days to upload a dvd5 on bt (On a positive side, superseed helps make 3-6 seeders easily, given the fact that you divide your upload stream to 3-5 people). I seen movies posted in 2-3 minutes in 50 meg rars.. right after another.. Takes me 2-3 min to download one 50 meg rar. So far i got a great connection for music and divx. 50ish kbs upload.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Yeah I can't upload any DVDs, people and myself would get too pissed, thats why I still use DivX/Xvid. Maybe one day I'll upgrade to a faster package but for now, charter will have to do the job and people will have to like what they get when they get it! lol

[.:sp00ky:.]

are we going fishing?

[Dark Messenger]

The darknet? The forbidden things...a technology based upon gossamer wings mysterious and flowing like some shrouded night mist.

A darknet to me represents a closed community of filesharer's driven underground for their own safety/security and protection from those seeking to opress civil liberties, invade privacy and destroy freedom.

A darknet can take many forms. It can be as simple as the technology that drives it.

In this example we refer to a waste hub. What is a waste hub? First waste is a secure encrypted p2p program created by Justin Frankel who also gave us winamp and gnutella. He open sourced the waste protocol making it possible for users to continue his work on their own.

Why waste? Because its simple and it works....It uses encryption based upon the exchange of public keys you create in order to share files securely over the internet. Not even your isp can see what you are searching for, downloading or uploading...they can observe the amount of bandwidth you use but are unable to determine the nature of your transfers even through packet sniffing as all communications between clients are encrypted and cannot be deciphered without a proper key pair.

How's it work? First you download the latest version of the waste client from here (http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/waste/waste-setup-1.5-beta-3-full-eng.exe) or here (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82356).

Then you install it. During installation you will be prompted to create a 'public key' which you do my moving your mouse cursor around a predefined area on the screen which is done to create a random private key for yourself after this is finished you can either export your public key to a text file or copy it to your clipboard and paste it manually into a text file yourself as 'mypublickey.txt'.

I don't remember the steps exactly or in order..but basically you pick a username for yourself. Create a private key, export your public key based on the private one.

Then finally you select an option to password protect your network which is highly recommended that you do in order to increase the safety of your network.

Then you run the program and exchange keys with someone you know well and wish to exchange files with.

You will need to give the person your ip address, port number that your client/server is listening on (default is 1337) and your public key.

The recipient will then import your public key into their client and enter the network password if you choose to use one that is and also your ip address and port number and then press the connect button (aftering entering your ip and port number into the address bar of the client) in order to connect to your computer running the waste program.

It works best if you have a 'static ip' meaning an ip address that doesn't change very often kind of like you would have with a cable or dsl modem. Dial up users can still use waste but will need to get a free dynamic dns service (http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/) that will give you a domain name such as yourname.myaddress.com which will monitor and update to match your current ip address when it changes by using a dns client (http://www.dyndns.com/support/clients/) to update your ip address automatically by selecting to run the client whenever windows starts and letting it run in the background using in the taskbar while you surf, download and share files.

A group of connected users sharing files with the waste client is reffered to as a 'mesh'. A mesh can be made up of two or more people with a maximum capacity of 50....50 is some kind of a limitation for the client that exists for reasons I do not understand and cannot explain.

If you turn off your client then anyone who leaves their client running can sustatin the network by providing an ip address for the other clients to connect to...this is done automatically in the background without any user interaction on your part so if ten people were to connect to your ip address and you suddenly went offline..instead of the ten others getting disconnected they would simply try to connect the next person in line with a reachable ip address thus making it possible for anyone to maintain the network so long as they have a static ip or dynamic dns one and preferrably a 24/7 connection.

How do you pick the people u want in your darknet? Well most already have people they've interacted with for years or months on the internet either in chatrooms, irc channels or messageboards like this one..so usually you invite your friends exchanging the ip address, port number , network password (if you chose to use one) and your public key through email, private messaging or private chat in irc.

Never post this information publicly as that's how it remains a darknet...and be sure to change the default port number the client runs on to anying other than 1337.

That's about it...now who wants to start out with a practice darknet?

[Krell]

Now youre gonna start a begging war for people we dont really know or trust

"nooooo I want in the dark club! Thats no fair, im plenty dark enough!

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[Tony87]

I just started generic discussion about P2P Anonymous "darknets". It seems that it hasn't been going on. But I think it's topic to discuss quite a lot. BitTorrent (at least public trackers) and emule aren't going to last for ever.

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=36970

[Krell]

I just started generic discussion about P2P Anonymous "darknets". It seems that it hasn't been going on. But I think it's topic to discuss quite a lot. BitTorrent (at least public trackers) and emule aren't going to last for ever.

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=36970


Welcome to ZP . . and please, no thread hopping, everyone that is familiar with ZP uses the New Posts link, we already know youve made a new thread, you dont need to promote it. In fact I already posted there before you posted here.



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[Mels_Smileys45]

Most people will never know there are members here swapping files on their own private network. (some may think that now, lol) If I was running a private server I would only IM very few people here, the ones I've had dialog with for some years.

I would like to try out waste as others use it and Ive been meaning to jump on board but its one of those things Ive never got around to trying. I guess its about that time.

[Mels_Smileys45]

Does Darknet have spyware?

[Dark Messenger]

Does Darknet have spyware?

The official version from sourceforge does not and I am not aware of any other versions apart from the original code released by Justin Frankel which did not and as its open source it probably wouldn't be difficult to detect.

Always download from the official homepage to be safe.

[Mels_Smileys45]

The official version from sourceforge does not and I am not aware of any other versions apart from the original code released by Justin Frankel which did not and as its open source it probably wouldn't be difficult to detect.

Always download from the official homepage to be safe.


I thought I was making a joke. I guess it wasn't too funny. not lol :icon_blac

[shallowhall]

Wasn't this thing of inviting people or find invites in zeropaid illegal?

[Dark Messenger]

I'll leave that to a mod to answer...and if they deem necessary to delete this thread.

[The Hunter]

Actually its open again. LOL

[The Hunter]

Bump..................

[Borgs8472]

Isn't signing up for one of those invite-only tracker sites basically the same as joining a darknet? :/

[Krell]

Do you know the people on that tracker?



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[mp3MaStA88]

I downloaded waste and am willing to start a darknet.... I have over 60 gigs of stuff, so if anyone wants to join in, then pm me!:icon_salu

[evilmegaman]

I assume when you guys are talking about a darknet, You mean waste right? if so, I would happy to join. Just gotta get all prepared and learn how to use waste again @_@

[Dark Messenger]

I assume when you guys are talking about a darknet, You mean waste right? if so, I would happy to join. Just gotta get all prepared and learn how to use waste again @_@

yep, I think that's what we had in mind...its more a learning thing than a super cool l337 thing.

did I mention that waste has the capability to make chat rooms and to send users in the room or on the network private messages in a way very similiar to irc?

It isn't so much the files as the knowledge we share in the various rooms that make this fun.
Edit:
If you want to join...download the client, create a public key...PM it to me...when you're accepted you will be notified here in the thread.

[evilmegaman]

Okay here it is! add me :) and let me add you (meaning whoever adds me) by posting your Public key here too :)

[Krell]

It might be more prudent to PM these keys as needed



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[Dark Messenger]

It might be more prudent to PM these keys as needed



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just a question: why, krell? The public key that is generated by the client is very similiar to a public PGP (pretty good privacy key). The intended purpose for it being called a public key is just that...it means its okay to post it in public...unless someone has your private key then posting your public key is useless for them.

Now if I'm shortsighted as is often the case then I beg you to inform me of your concern.

edit: Please only post your Public key here. do not post ANY ip addresses or passwords (for the network) here.

All ip addresses for the "hub" and the password to the hub needs to stay private.

[Krell]

No youre not short sighted, but treat this like a hub and dont broadcast all this, for crying out loud this will be on google forever.


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[Dark Messenger]

ah, I'm glad you reminded me of this...evilmegaman please edit your post...I forgot we do not have any private forum areas here that are not accessed by the google search engine.

Thanks, krell.

Edit: Evilmegaman you have been added.

[The Hunter]

I hope he doesnt mind, but I edited it for him.

[Dark Messenger]

Thanks, Hunter.

edit: I've edited my earlier post to have people PM me their public keys.

[napho]

No youre not short sighted, but treat this like a hub and dont broadcast all this, for crying out loud this will be on google forever.


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It seems to be there already dammit! This place is a target as it is: if the RIAA and MPAA bust Zeropaid, it's the beginning of the end. :icon_salu

[Gamer8585]

First rule of Darknet: you don't talk about Darknet.
Second rule of Darknet: YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT DARKNET!

[Lehk]

it's not a bloody darknet if you advertisze it on a public forum.

[Krell]

it's not a bloody darknet if you advertisze it on a public forum.

har har har I didnt want to be so blunt

Nice quote Gamer8585

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[evilmegaman]

I hope he doesnt mind, but I edited it for him.

Thanks hunter. Just figured that I would put it public because it only matters if I also add the other person. I think

[Mels_Smileys45]

I would like to get in on this and try it out. I got some things to get to some people and then I'll be ready to rock.

[Dark Messenger]

Sounds good Mels. just PM me or evilmegaman with ur key when ur ready to try it out.

[black_magiic]

If I get some time to learn how to use waste I will probably join up later this week. I have some stuff to share mostly music I don't keep much else on my pc.

[Dark Messenger]

that's cool look forward to seeing u there, black_magiic

[shallowhall]

First rule of Darknet: you don't talk about Darknet.
Second rule of Darknet: YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT DARKNET!
There are things that nobody should talk about, the less that are mentioned, the less the enemy knows, the best.

[evilmegaman]

There are things that nobody should talk about, the less that are mentioned, the less the enemy knows, the best.

the theory's good, But talking about this is about the same as talking about a private BT place. Really. It is.

[charlesmelissa]

I am guessing this topic was just thrown out for discussion, I am SURE no one was really planning on forming a "DarkNet" with outer people you don't know. After all the RIAA and MPAA have read these threads. You can be sure they are all over ZP looking for infringement to close it down. Would you want to form a DarkNet with them? They could share with you and it would be legal, but if you shared back YOU WOULD BE LOCKED UP! Maybe I am paranoid, but I don't trust my life (or my back) unless I know who you are.

[evilmegaman]

I am guessing this topic was just thrown out for discussion, I am SURE no one was really planning on forming a "DarkNet" with outer people you don't know. After all the RIAA and MPAA have read these threads. You can be sure they are all over ZP looking for infringement to close it down. Would you want to form a DarkNet with them? They could share with you and it would be legal, but if you shared back YOU WOULD BE LOCKED UP! Maybe I am paranoid, but I don't trust my life (or my back) unless I know who you are.


That's why this is now a private thing. We are only adding regulars and People who we are 100% positive aren't involved in any orginization.

[Krell]

Maybe I am paranoid, but I don't trust my life (or my back) unless I know who you are.

I guess that pretty much keeps you home bound and only on 3 internet sites . . . and come to think of it . . I wouldnt invite you to a darknet . . youre just not dark enough. (jk)

You people remember that guy that kept signing up under different aliases and freaking out when we wouldnt let him back in the HUB? Who wants to deal with that bullshit either? He was a nutcase.

I think I still have a chat where he was raving on about stealing X-Boxes as a form of mall-centric anarchy to stick it to MS.



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[.:sp00ky:.]

well to be fair no ones even said they will be sharing anything copywrited in this darknet (that word is so crud)

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[black_magiic]

Maybe Im doing something wrong but it says network down when I attempt to connect. :(

[Dark Messenger]

Maybe Im doing something wrong but it says network down when I attempt to connect. :(

Someone else had the same problem....just a sec and I'll send u a pm.

[shawners]

I'm on there.. GET CONNECTED!! New stuff added daily =)

[Christoph]

I want it!

[Mels_Smileys45]

Get it! I need help to set it up!

[Dark Messenger]

I think when I pm'd some people my public key I was adding a space at the end of it and I think that's why you'd get the network down message.

This is still in learning and experimental stages so there are bound to be a few mistakes made....the purpose is mainly to help members familiarise themselves with waste and how it works and offer it as as a safe, secure alternative to filesharing with friends.

-DM

[Mels_Smileys45]

The main trouble Im having is the random number generator does not pop up. A box pops up and asks for my password and I can't get past that. Help!



Edit: Never mind, I just closed that out and found where the option is located. Now on to the next steps

[Dark Messenger]

Here's a guide (http://waste.sourceforge.net/docs/docs.html) that may help.

Mels holla back if this doesn't answer your question or if u still can't connect.

[shawners]

were waiting on you mels. Even though dm is downloading a japanese movie, ill squeeze in a connection for you to download from me.

[Dark Messenger]

were waiting on you mels. Even though dm is downloading a japanese movie, ill squeeze in a connection for you to download from me.

I'm picturing u as Kramer (from Seinfeld) in that episode with all those japanese tourists in his hottub when Jerry opens the door Kramer is in the hottub with a cigar and cowboy hat hollers at Jerry (in this case Melsmiley) , "Come on in here, Mels...we want u in this hottub!"

lol :p

[Mels_Smileys45]

Hopefully I will be onboard soon. Just waiting for someone to allow me to connect.

[evilmegaman]

Sorry DM I am stuck in OSX at the moment On my hackintosh ;) Just got to get windows to start up. It should be no problem but haven't had time recently. I will do it later today ;)

[Dark Messenger]

no worries, mate..just was wondering what had happened to ya.

[CRLocky]

If I'm worthy, I'd like to take part. Let me know if I qualify.

[Potato]

DM, is this the thing you PMed me about before that I couldn't figure out?

[AussieMatt]

The first rule of setting up a Waste mesh is not to tell everyone that you are doing it that said there have been a few Waste meshes that only share public domain and creative commmons material .

If your going to set up a darknet and dont want to be detected from outside make sure you use all the security options like no direct connections and saturation so your Waste data looks like a constant stream of 'White Noise" to your ISP,

More info on Waste security here .

http://waste.sourceforge.net/index.php?id=information

Remeber Waste only protects you from outside snooping .

[Dark Messenger]

DM, is this the thing you PMed me about before that I couldn't figure out?

yep. :icon_rr:

until u actually eXpeRience it..there's no real way to describe how great it is..Aussiematt and others who have warned about mentioning or eluding to the possible existence of a 'darknet' we understand you're concerns and haven taken care of them.

edit Aussiematt, you okay in my book..liked ur posts on slyck.

2nd edit it's the knowledge and information that we share that truly makes this great. :D

[Dark Messenger]

people are making when setting up their client...

Instructions:

1) Go into Preferences>Public Keys then click 'Add...' a window will open with a small box at the bottom that says 'Public key text [optionally paste in public keys here):

2)Paste my public key (from previous pm) into that text box making sure that there are no spaces either at the beginning or end of my public key then click 'Load key text..' u should get a confirmation that it was successfully added.

Note: If you are already connected to the mesh and are trying to help a friend get connected subsitute your own public key...meaning you add ur friends PUBLIC KEY and your friends adds your PUBLIC key.

3) now close preferences

4Right-click on the waste icon in the system tray and select 'Network status'. A new window will open. At the top of the window in the address bar put in one of the following ip addresses:

xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:1337 where 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.' = Dark Messenger's ip address or the other dynamic dns one (If you are already connected to the mesh and are trying to help a friend get connected u can use your own ip address in the place of 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' and have him/her connect to you..so long as you've added his public key to ur client (without any spaces before or after the public key and its accepted it sucessfully) he or she should be able to connect to ur ip and join the mesh you're on....don't post ip addresses publicly

then press the connect button located all the to the far right of the address bar where u entered the ip address at. If the first ip address doesn't work..try the next one..only use one at a time.

Further Instructions (if needed)
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make sure that no password is present in Preferences>Network>Password if one is there...delete it.

Close waste...reopen it, right-click on the waste icon in system tray...select 'network status'

enter this ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:1337 (where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is either your ip address or one of the two other dynamic dns addresses then click the connect button (all the way over the right of the address bar) and u should be on
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How do I know if I'm connected or not?



A) after u get connected you'll see the other ppl in the mesh from the network status window or you can hit 'show waste' from the right-click menu in the control panel and it will show everybody in the hub/mesh giving u the option of right-clicking on someone's name to chat with.

right-click on my nic, DM and i'll show u how to get into the group chat..its like irc..but you'll see.

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How do I get my public key after creating it to share with others?

A) In waste go into Preferences>Network>Private Key
and select 'Copy my Public Key to the clipboard.

Then in notepad press Ctrl + V that should be ur correct key...

key should be bigger than one line and have WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY at the beginning and WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END at the end of it.

you copy everything starting from the first 'W' in WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY to the last 'D' in 'WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

There should be NO SPACES either BEFORE or AFTER your public key when pasting it into the 'add public key' field.

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That's pretty much all I can think of right now.

[Mels_Smileys45]

I think my first key was screwed up with some extra shite for some reason. I have sent my new key out. Crossing fingers because my fuse is about to blow! lol

[Krell]

It occurs to me that when we trade keys, you may want to throw them in Notepad when you get them to remove any formatting and to ensure you have no spaces etc

Then copy and paste from Notepad to the Waste


Got this port forwarded on your router? Enter your external IP address as forced

I generated a new key and EXPORTED IT, so I can keep using the same one, as it seems to disappear on me :o


Lets follow THIS Mels - http://waste.sourceforge.net/docs/docs.html








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[Mels_Smileys45]

I switched to another version of Waste, the one I was using was missing some options. Ive followed the guide but still the network is down for me. Perhaps my key hasn't been entered yet. I'm going to bang my head now because this is just silly.

[Krell]

Which version?

Also, I see no traffic from Waste at all just listening

Can you re send your key?


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[boogiedan]

i'll join 1
why not
the net is our's
lets make it more dark

[Dark Messenger]

Which version?



we are using Waste version 1.5 beta 3 (build 408) (http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/waste/waste-setup-1.5-beta-3-full-eng.exe)

How do I know what version I'm using?

A) in preferences check the 'about' button and make sure you are using:

Waste version 1.5 beta 3 (build 408)

if you're using an older version you won't be able to connect.

[CRLocky]

Potato tried helping me last night, and we did everything pretty clean, it still didn't work..

My guess is the program was set up fine, its just that I have a port/modem problem.
I looked into forwarding ports a long time ago, but I can't remember if I ended up doing that or not.
portforward.com doesn't list my modem, can you forward ports on a modem? Or is it just a router thing?

I'm not on a router. hhmmm

[Krell]

I am using that version Waste version 1.5 beta 3 (build 408)



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[shawners]

You get too comfortable with those p2p apps, that you install and it auto connects on startup. I had trouble at first. I think it was a space in there, and i used Dm ip address. So if you want to try connecting to mine, im portforwarded and have no firewall to exclude you.

[Krell]

You get too comfortable with those p2p apps, that you install and it auto connects on startup. I had trouble at first. I think it was a space in there, and i used Dm ip address. So if you want to try connecting to mine, im portforwarded and have no firewall to exclude you.

I added your key, but waste still just kinda sits there and does nothing.

I typed in the fqdn and IP for darkmessneger, but it connects to nothing.

I may try to bypass the router when i get home.

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[Dark Messenger]

I

I typed in the fqdn


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you typed in the what?

CRLocky and Krell if u use msn messenger I'll try and talk u through it on there or maybe we can pm each other here?

today is a good day for this.

[Krell]

fqdn = fully qualified domain name ie: who you are besides an IP address


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[Dark Messenger]

I added your key, but waste still just kinda sits there and does nothing.

I typed in the fqdn and IP for darkmessneger, but it connects to nothing.

I may try to bypass the router when i get home.

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you have to press 'enter' or click on the 'connect button' after entering that address. :p

[Krell]

you have to press 'enter' or click on the 'connect button' after entering that address. :p


OMG UR A GENIUS THANK YOU OH THANK YOU!!!!!!!

The mystery of the DARKNET has now been solved, we can all go home.



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[Dark Messenger]

hence the :p

your key's added to my client..seriously that's all u should need to do.

[Krell]

Someone with a lessor sense of humor could have taken you seriously


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[Dark Messenger]

now in the words of kidrock, 'get in the hub and try to love someone.' badabadabadwidda..or however that goes.

[Krell]

Im about wasted out . . you should have enough outbound traffic from me to give you concern, all I get is network down. Check your PM



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[Dark Messenger]

I'm not running a firewall so I have no way of checking that.

I sent u pm.

Basically the way it works:

1)you send me ur public key and I add it to my client.
2)I send you my public key and u add it to your client.
3)I send u my ip + port number and u enter it into 'network status' and click go.

[shallowhall]

The first rule of setting up a Waste mesh is not to tell everyone that you are doing it that said there have been a few Waste meshes that only share public domain and creative commmons material .

If your going to set up a darknet and dont want to be detected from outside make sure you use all the security options like no direct connections and saturation so your Waste data looks like a constant stream of 'White Noise" to your ISP,

More info on Waste security here .

http://waste.sourceforge.net/index.php?id=information

Remeber Waste only protects you from outside snooping .
Just give me your password, I wont tell anyone

[Krell]

I'm not running a firewall so I have no way of checking that.

I sent u pm.

Basically the way it works:

1)you send me ur public key and I add it to my client.
2)I send you my public key and u add it to your client.
3)I send u my ip + port number and u enter it into 'network status' and click go.


Actually, that's basically the way it DOESNT work . . or we would have used it already.

They call it WASTE for a good reason . . . it wastes my MF time!


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[sToNeD_rApToR]

can somebody send me a key. i want to join.

[Potato]

Actually, that's basically the way it DOESNT work . . or we would have used it already.

They call it WASTE for a good reason . . . it wastes my MF time!


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Patience, my dear Krell, patience.

[Krell]

OK people . . one more time . . .

PM me your Key and ip address

I see nada



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[evilmegaman]

Is it possible to use get back into our waste mesh on another computer?

[Dark Messenger]

Is it possible to use get back into our waste mesh on another computer?

why r u on a different computer?

[multi]

Does Darknet have spyware?

LOL

i thought it was funny



is there some new version of waste being called ' darknet ' or something ?

[Dark Messenger]

LOL

i thought it was funny



is there some new version of waste being called ' darknet ' or something ?

darknet doesn't exist.

[multi]

did you get a PM with my key or something?
:D
....relax
great thread...

[Dark Messenger]

did you get a PM with my key or something?
:D
....relax
great thread...

not yet but you are welcome to join us as I familiar with you from your posting on numerous messageboards.
you'd be welcome anytime. :icon_salu

[multi]

thank-you
this non-existant darknet does sound pretty intriguing ;)
what version waste are you guys using ?
1.5 beta3 is not compatible with the 1.1 -1.4alpha3 versions
its ok i use both :)

[Dark Messenger]

thank-you
this non-existant darknet does sound pretty intriguing ;)
what version waste are you guys using ?
1.5 beta3 is not compatible with the 1.1 -1.4alpha3 versions
its ok i use both :)

we are using the 1.5 beta 3 version (http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/waste/waste-setup-1.5-beta-3-full-eng.exe), multi.

[evilmegaman]

why r u on a different computer?


Because I want to use waste on my hackintosh ;)

[Dark Messenger]

Because I want to use waste on my hackintosh ;)

i didn't know that was possible...check out the sourceforge site for a mac version of the client...it may have limited support or do u have some type of vpn software?

Mac Version (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82356&package_id=106567)

edit: Just re-enter my public key into the mac version of waste and use ...oh wait...i was gonna say import your other key..but just make a new one and send me ur public key...then connect to the dynamic dns address and port just like before.