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Krell
March 21st, 2006, 10:18 AM
V For Vendetta creator Alan Moore is desperate to be disassociated from the screen adaptation of his classic comic strip - and is begging the producers not to credit him for his work. The cartoonist, who also conceived From Hell and The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, hates seeing his work diluted by movie-makers, and refuses to put his name to the result. He says, "I want them to say, 'We're not going to give you any money for your work, you're not going to get any credit for it and we're not going to put your name on it.' To see a line of dialogue or a character that I have poured that much emotional involvement into, to see them casually travestied and watered down and distorted... it's kind of painful. It's much better just to avoid them altogether."



James Bond producer Barbara Broccoli is so certain Daniel Craig will be a huge hit playing 007, she has already started working on the sequel to forthcoming movie Casino Royale. Craig has come under intense scrutiny since he was announced as Pierce Brosnan's successor last year, with die hard fans setting up a website encouraging cinema-goers to boycott his debut as Bond. But Broccoli is convinced Craig is the perfect person to give the traditionally suave superspy a grittier, rawer edge. And she has shown her commitment to Craig's appointment by announcing his second role before Casino Royale has even completed filming. She says, "We are already working on the sequel. We're in the early stages of that. It will be an original story but will continue part of what the story is in Casino Royale."




Hollywood is a bunch of crack smoking money launderers




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Crazy Horse
March 21st, 2006, 10:35 AM
Anyone remember Woody Allen playing James Bond in the original Casino Royale ??? Yea Woody Allen ! That was pretty funny.

WE_DELIVER
March 21st, 2006, 10:41 AM
I thought Vendetta wasn't bad at all. The League was pretty bad though.

thepuzzler
March 21st, 2006, 11:04 AM
He says, "I want them to say, 'We're not going to give you any money for your work, you're not going to get any credit for it and we're not going to put your name on it.' To see a line of dialogue or a character that I have poured that much emotional involvement into, to see them casually travestied and watered down and distorted... it's kind of painful. It's much better just to avoid them altogether."

It's nice that some people still have integrity in the fake world of Hollywood movies.

derekb
March 21st, 2006, 11:24 AM
Anyone remember Woody Allen playing James Bond in the original Casino Royale ??? Yea Woody Allen ! That was pretty funny.

Woody Allen played James Bonds nephew:icon_scra

Krell
March 21st, 2006, 11:27 AM
Woody Allen played James Bonds nephew:icon_scra

And so should Daniel Craig




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Ne007
March 21st, 2006, 11:49 AM
Didn't he have to sign over the rights to the name?

If he did, then he should stop bitchin.

cjules13
March 21st, 2006, 12:08 PM
I'm a big fan of Alan Moore, and it's a shame to see Hollywood destroy his carefully crafted story... but damn I heard it was pretty good I still want to see it but it sounds like I should do the man some honor and read the graphic novel first... Can't believe I haven't yet...

Krell
March 21st, 2006, 12:12 PM
Didn't he have to sign over the rights to the name?

If he did, then he should stop bitchin.

In most cases, I would tend to agree with you . . but not this one.

An artist whos reputation, and LEGACY is at stake, deserves to have some measure of minimum qualification. Irrespctive of a royalty or compensation, an artist deserves fair representation. A gross reworking of a literary piece is unacceptable.

Bill and Ted does Shakespeare doesnt cut it.


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shawners
March 21st, 2006, 02:16 PM
Parliament was originaly designed to be bombed in 1600.. Guy got caught and hung.

Mels_Smileys45
March 24th, 2006, 07:28 PM
Once A writter gets paid, in this case by DC, most of the time they lose control of their creation. This is not the case any longer with the vertigo line of DC comics where the creators control and keep the rights to all content, to a certain degree. Vendetta was published before DC gave writters this freedom.

I agree with cjules13, Allan Moore is the best. He is the one I credit with making me see how silly all the other hero based, tight wearing comics were and how good an adult comic could really be. I would like everyone to find his work on SwampThing, trust me, its not the book you think it is, and read his work. ( a torrent was once around) This is the best work Ive ever read in an ongoing series. Its so amazing I can't put it into words. The best Horror/sci fi comic ever, ever! I wish i could make everyone read this series. It will def change your view of the media forever. Simply beautiful.

You may want to PM me on Swampy, I still have it on my PC



As Ive said before, his Watchmen graphic novel is the best superhero book i've ever read. It tells a story of how people would really act if they had super powers, even delving into rape. I would like to see an HBO cartoon series on this story.


Most people do not know it but Allan Moore created the character John Constantine in the pages of Swamp thing in the 80's, although he had nothing to do with the resulting comic book series or the movie of last year.

Lehk
March 24th, 2006, 08:08 PM
the only movie i want to see this year:

Snakes on a Plane

Mels_Smileys45
March 24th, 2006, 08:12 PM
Never heard of it. What? No Grind House? Its gonna be the coolest flick of the year

wingnut2600
March 24th, 2006, 08:22 PM
I think that a movie based upon Alan Moore's comics is more of an homage or retelling... you can't do justice to his work.

I would love to see creator made cartoon re-makes of Preacher and Watchmen on HBO (it is owned by Time-Warner... owner of DC). The stories could be expounded upon and given life through animation... movies will just water them down. Hollywood kills good things.

Mels_Smileys45
March 24th, 2006, 08:47 PM
Preacher was kick ass too! Garth Enis is the Tarantino of the comics biz!

Excrement_Cranium
March 24th, 2006, 11:20 PM
Hollywood doesn't kill good things. Death would be merciful. Hollywood bastardizes and mutilates original ideas, puts them through the grinder to forcefeed to the masses. I wouldn't say this was a bad thing, but I think Hollywood has very little idea what the masses actually want....

Mels_Smileys45
March 24th, 2006, 11:49 PM
I love Hollywood!

Mels_Smileys45
June 12th, 2006, 05:37 AM
I think that a movie based upon Alan Moore's comics is more of an homage or retelling... you can't do justice to his work.

I would love to see creator made cartoon re-makes of Preacher and Watchmen on HBO (it is owned by Time-Warner... owner of DC). The stories could be expounded upon and given life through animation... movies will just water them down. Hollywood kills good things.



Ive been tossing around the idea of a new project I want to do but I think it may be a bit too much. Any of you guys out there read The Watchmen mini series by Alan Moore? Its simply fantastic work, maybe the best mini series ever. I have this graphic novel and also I have it in digital form too. Now what Im thinking of doing is taking the version I have on my PC, jazzing it up a bit, adding pan, scan, zooms, flash, slides anything I can throw at it to make it almost seem animated, then add sound effects, sound track and find some people willing to read for the voices. Does this sound like I good idea? Well you may have no idea if you don't know the story at all. I think I'll try a sample treatment and see how it goes, maybe post it up on youtube. Im halfway excited about this idea.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen

In October 1985, Walter Kovacs (Rorschach) investigates the murder of New Yorker Edward Blake and discovers that Blake was "The Comedian", a longtime costumed adventurer/government agent. Forming a theory that Blake's murder is part of a greater plot to eliminate costumed adventurers (or "masks," as Rorschach calls them), Kovacs extends warnings to four others: Jon Osterman (Dr. Manhattan), Laurel Jane Juspeczyk (Silk Spectre II), Dan Dreiberg (Nite Owl II) and Adrian Veidt (Ozymandias). Veidt, Juspeczyk and Dreiberg are long retired from crime-fighting, the latter two because of the 1977 passage of the Keene Act, which banned costumed vigilantes (a fact that Kovacs, deeply immersed in his Rorschach identity, ignores), and Veidt had retired voluntarily in 1975, disclosing his identity publicly and using his reputation and intelligence to build a large personal fortune. Osterman remained exempt from the Keene Act, being (like Blake) a U.S. government agent, though he does not engage in crimefighting.

The United States and the Soviet Union have been edging toward a nuclear showdown since the 1959 nuclear accident that transformed Osterman into the super-powered Dr. Manhattan. Due to Osterman's presence, the U.S. has enjoyed a distinct strategic advantage, allowing it to defeat the Soviet Union in a series of proxy wars -- most notably in Vietnam. This imbalance has dramatically increased global tension. In seeming anticipation of global war, American society has assumed a general sense of fatalism about the future. Signs of this in daily life range from "Meltdowns" candy to graffiti inspired by the Hiroshima bombing to the designation of many buildings in New York as fallout shelters.

Mels_Smileys45
June 26th, 2006, 04:30 AM
2nd test I just finished http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuWvwATUMdk


Its gonna take 6 months to finish this up! Ughhhh

RACKnRAIL
June 26th, 2006, 05:55 AM
I just saw V for Vendetta recently. I must say it was quite entertaining. I enjoyed it regardless of who's name is on the credits.

The same old story goes with most books. The movie following hardly ever lives up to the excitement of the book...usually.