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soulxtc
February 20th, 2006, 01:21 PM
The US state of Mississippi plans to put the names and faces of convicted sex offenders on roadside billboards.

About 100 posters showing offenders, particularly those who prey on minors, will be put up, a state official said.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41355000/jpg/_41355322_wanted203.jpg
Don Taylor, head of the state's Department of Human Services, told a local newspaper the aim was to make the public aware of their crimes.

But human rights campaigners say the measure is unnecessary as the public is already aware once convicts are jailed.

Mr Taylor is especially keen to name and shame those who make minors pregnant.

READ ARTICLE (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4733522.stm)

cheapprick
February 20th, 2006, 01:33 PM
So what's the justification for jailing them? If a person cannot pay for their crimes by going to prison anyway, why not just kill them the first time they commit an offense? Any offense.

Kill those damn jaywalkers and get it over with.

boogiedan
February 20th, 2006, 01:44 PM
v good idea
diss em and shame the scum

infact behead them

mfgbypooter
February 20th, 2006, 01:46 PM
If there was ever a circumstance for capital punishment, it's the crimes commited by sexual predators who prey on minors.

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cheapprick
February 20th, 2006, 02:02 PM
I'll give Mississppi this much, they have the age of consent at 16 instead of 18. I still question anytime a person 15 chooses to have sex whether or not they could really be said to be unable to determine the prerequisite mental decision. At 15 I had elaborate thoughts about my willingness but found unwillingness all around me and females are generally accepted to mature faster than boys. Most 15 year old girls already exceed my maturity.

If a 15 year old girl was involved with an 18 year old guy I can't see the justification in all of the usual castration mongoring. As the guy's age increases I admit it gets more reasonable perhaps. I've got to say that if a good looking 15 year old knocked on my door today I'd put vast effort into impregnating her.

Krell
February 20th, 2006, 02:07 PM
Once a 16yold slid down her panties and hung them on my rear view mirror with her toes. Her line was, would you rather have sex with your 40+ ex gf, or a nice tight 16yold like me?

In that moment of clarity, as a light shown down from heaven, it made perfect sense to me.


I'd do it again without reservations.



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Malakai1911
February 20th, 2006, 02:30 PM
Once a 16yold slid down her panties and hung them on my rear view mirror with her toes. Her line was, would you rather have sex with your 40+ ex gf, or a nice tight 16yold like me?

In that moment of clarity, as a light shown down from heaven, it made perfect sense to me.


I'd do it again without reservations.

Amen to that :icon_thum.

shawners
February 20th, 2006, 03:13 PM
Loook at how many sex offenders are in my neck of the woods.. . Some are alias of that person. A family posted a description and address of one that lived behind my house, on three mail boxes. They tore it down. But if these sex offenders arent a shamed of themselfs, publishing it to others wont make them that much more ashamed. It just provide people info on whos the threat and watch for which everyone should get everyones back. Sex offenders dont just rape girls or have sex with 16 year old.. They rape little boys, family members and girls who are no more then 5.

silentscream
February 20th, 2006, 04:08 PM
Loook at how many sex offenders are in my neck of the woods.. . Some are alias of that person. A family posted a description and address of one that lived behind my house, on three mail boxes. They tore it down. But if these sex offenders arent a shamed of themselfs, publishing it to others wont make them that much more ashamed. It just provide people info on whos the threat and watch for which everyone should get everyones back. Sex offenders dont just rape girls or have sex with 16 year old.. They rape little boys, family members and girls who are no more then 5.
and ruin one of the greatest pleasures in life for the victims

it must be hard to enjoy sex after being violated by some sick fuck

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Auggie2k
February 20th, 2006, 05:16 PM
Yeah because the mentality of it would never leave you I assume.

I say go for this and name and shame the sick bastards.

The Hunter
February 20th, 2006, 05:22 PM
It doesnt leave you, and I know this from friends that were attacked many years ago, and still have nightmares about it. It changed them forever.

Krell
February 20th, 2006, 05:23 PM
I've had a number of relationships with women that were raped or sexually abused by relatives. They all had baggage to try to deal with. They all had scars.



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fleecy
February 20th, 2006, 05:25 PM
.... which seldom, if ever, goes completely away.

soulxtc
February 20th, 2006, 08:48 PM
Punishment that doesnt cross over into "cruel and unsual" for these monsters is difficult as well. I mean, short of a life sentence, these guys are guaranteed to get out the joint at some point and do it again. It makes the question of "rehabilitation" and the punishment "fitting the crime" a difficult one. Life in prison would be my choice as the victims rarely if other recover from the trauma of such a horrific violation of their very being.


To boot, as one considers these monsters, and I cant say that enough, get what in terms of years in prison? !0 maybe, Im not sure, but the guy selling harmless pot gets a 20 - 30 year sentence? Its just frickin retarded. The way we deal with these monsters needs to be reevaluated on a more comprehensive level that takes into account the VICTIM or VICTIMS and not just the monster involved.


Id be curious to know what other countries do in these cases, but my intuition tells them that the pent up nature of our puritanical society which outlaws prostitution only worsens the situation by not allowing for a legal and consensual outlet for these monsters to satisfy their urges in a controlled manner. Id like to see the statistics compaing instances of rapes per capita of countries with legal prostitution and those that dont. I'd bet its much, much lower. Why risk it when you can pay a measly 50 bucks or whatever and be on your merry way?


Unfortunately common sense and our govt are like oil and water. They'll just never understand possibility from practicality. Again, like pot, you cant OD on it, doesnt hurt you, except excessive food consumption, and yet they go on and on about it being harmful when everybody knows it BS, it just shows the emperor really doesn't wear clothes.

Lehk
February 20th, 2006, 10:04 PM
If there was ever a circumstance for capital punishment, it's the crimes commited by sexual predators who prey on minors.

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very bad idea. it looks good up front, untill the dead bodies start piling up.

if child molesters get death then they are MUCH better off killing their victims when they are done, because a dead {girl | boy) doesn't talk.

mountain_rage
February 20th, 2006, 10:15 PM
Id be curious to know what other countries do in these cases, but my intuition tells them that the pent up nature of our puritanical society which outlaws prostitution only worsens the situation by not allowing for a legal and consensual outlet for these monsters to satisfy their urges in a controlled manner. Id like to see the statistics compaing instances of rapes per capita of countries with legal prostitution and those that dont. I'd bet its much, much lower. Why risk it when you can pay a measly 50 bucks or whatever and be on your merry way?


Unfortunately common sense and our govt are like oil and water. They'll just never understand possibility from practicality. Again, like pot, you cant OD on it, doesnt hurt you, except excessive food consumption, and yet they go on and on about it being harmful when everybody knows it BS, it just shows the emperor really doesn't wear clothes.

Prostitution legal or not also has its share of bagage associated it. Your solution is replacing one problem and causing another. This would probably not even solve most casses of child molestation and rape as these people like children if you havnt caught on prostitutes would be 18 and older. There needs to be more studies into why people rape other humans and if there is a way of supressing those urges through medication or maybe in the furture brain surgery. Theres no doupt in my mind that its a psycological problem.

mfgbypooter
February 20th, 2006, 11:17 PM
very bad idea. it looks good up front, untill the dead bodies start piling up.

if child molesters get death then they are MUCH better off killing their victims when they are done, because a dead {girl | boy) doesn't talk.DNA speaks louder than any victim.

And the premise of killing their prey doesn't hold water for any other offenses so what makes you think it would for child molesters?

But maybe you are right in that Capital Punishment is a bad idea.

It takes too long.

And Capital Punishment is too good for them when it would be far worse punishment to just let them spend the rest of their life in Ad Seg.

Or, let's just do away with Ad Seg for the bastards, and let them loose in GP for one day.

They'd be like deer in headlights.

It'd be a done deal.

game over.

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if there is a way of supressing those urges through medication or maybe in the furture brain surgery.They already have surgery that will work.

It's called a full frontal lobotomy.

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soulxtc
February 21st, 2006, 12:17 AM
Prostitution legal or not also has its share of bagage associated it. Your solution is replacing one problem and causing another. This would probably not even solve most casses of child molestation and rape as these people like children if you havnt caught on prostitutes would be 18 and older. There needs to be more studies into why people rape other humans and if there is a way of supressing those urges through medication or maybe in the furture brain surgery. Theres no doupt in my mind that its a psycological problem.


Not to get sidetracked too much about prostitution, but I think we can both aree that it is ALREADY a problem. We have women who are doing it without the benfit of legal ormedical protection.


Why not legalize it, have them in designated areas, and regularly have them get medical and psychological checkups for their benfit and safety.


Ever been to Amsterdam? Its frickin awesome, and the women who do it are both well paid and well taken care of. To leave it as is is now with them ruining neighborhodds with the unseemly traffic, not to mention the waste in police manpower, I mean do we really need to waste the use of 10 cops or more to bust John Doe getting a BJ? They would be of better use finding real criminals doing REAL HARM. We can never figure out why theres not enough cops and its becuase they're busting Billy smoking a joiint, harming nobody, and John Doe getting laid. Its just nonsense.

They may only be into the pre-18's, but still if they had a legal outlet it could change their outlook. Either way, the US is doomed if it doesnt start thinking outside the box like it used to.

Excrement_Cranium
February 21st, 2006, 01:29 AM
Look at all the fun I miss when my comp plays Russian Roulette and wins.

CrashPeer44
February 21st, 2006, 07:28 AM
If they can't pay Child Support, How are they "SEX OFFENDERS"

Maybe they don't have the money.

fleecy
February 21st, 2006, 10:56 AM
i think what was meant was this is a similar tactic to one used on those who don't pay child support- i know there was talk in my old stomping grounds of putting faces and names on billboards and tv, as well as posters... same with drunk drivers....

Burd
February 21st, 2006, 01:07 PM
O.K., I know I'm not going to be too popular with this opinion (what else is new?) but here goes: Point number one: if they (the sex offenders) are still dangerous, they should still be in jail. Point number two: if they have paid their dues to society and are out of jail after the appropriate time, they should be left alone. Why don't we have posters with pictures of car theives, burglars, murderers, inside traders, embezzlers, world leaders who have lied to their people, etc? It's because the "crime" involves sex. Sex Crimes are the only crimes where the "innocent until proven guilty" rule does not apply. Be accused of a sex crime and your picture is on the front page of the paper. EVERYONE believes that you did it. Be acquitted and the story is on the back page, if in the paper at all.

Yet, EVERYONE still believes that you did it. (Popular example: Michael Jackson) It's almost as if everyone WANTS, indeed desires, to have you guilty. It feeds some kind of perverted desire among the masses. And, I'm always amused by the moral outrage that accompanies the news of a "sex" crime. No such moral outrage accompanies the news of a regular murder, just morbid curiousity. "She was murdered." Too bad. "And she was raped," and all the ears perk up! Wierd.

No, I was never accused of a sex crime. My concern is that this seems like a pretty antiproductive measure. "Wanted" posters are not the answer. Do we supply the good citizens with torches too? That way, they can chase the "monsters" down and maybe lynch them to boot. The mob mentality of the self righteous is always a curious thing.

soulxtc
February 21st, 2006, 02:28 PM
O.K., I know I'm not going to be too popular with this opinion (what else is new?) but here goes: Point number one: if they (the sex offenders) are still dangerous, they should still be in jail. Point number two: if they have paid their dues to society and are out of jail after the appropriate time, they should be left alone. Why don't we have posters with pictures of car theives, burglars, murderers, inside traders, embezzlers, world leaders who have lied to their people, etc? It's because the "crime" involves sex. Sex Crimes are the only crimes where the "innocent until proven guilty" rule does not apply. Be accused of a sex crime and your picture is on the front page of the paper. EVERYONE believes that you did it. Be acquitted and the story is on the back page, if in the paper at all.

Yet, EVERYONE still believes that you did it. (Popular example: Michael Jackson) It's almost as if everyone WANTS, indeed desires, to have you guilty. It feeds some kind of perverted desire among the masses. And, I'm always amused by the moral outrage that accompanies the news of a "sex" crime. No such moral outrage accompanies the news of a regular murder, just morbid curiousity. "She was murdered." Too bad. "And she was raped," and all the ears perk up! Wierd.

No, I was never accused of a sex crime. My concern is that this seems like a pretty antiproductive measure. "Wanted" posters are not the answer. Do we supply the good citizens with torches too? That way, they can chase the "monsters" down and maybe lynch them to boot. The mob mentality of the self righteous is always a curious thing.

Good point, its a tough call. If you did the time for the crime then it should be ILLEGAL as cruel and unusual for the govt to keep harrssing you like this. In the case of other crimes, say robbery, drug dealing, whatever, we dont make them register or put their name up on a billborad it's totally unfair. Either rathcet up the jail time or make em do the the time and leave em alone.

CrashPeer44
February 21st, 2006, 04:05 PM
great point you are 100% right.
How about instead, Copyright your name and when the Gov uses it they HAVE TO PAY YOU!
or you sue them for 32947852394753294593245937 Dollars!

Wait arn't we against copyrights?
lol:icon_scra :hi

kokanezub
February 21st, 2006, 05:54 PM
infact behead them

very ironic people would say that..serious tho would you agree to behead a child molester?

Excrement_Cranium
February 21st, 2006, 05:55 PM
Nope, not popular at all.


Though, as Christians have taught me, it's a hell of a lot easier to be holier than thou in opinion than in action.

Atheist Icon
February 22nd, 2006, 06:05 AM
I have absolutely no problem with shaming someone for committing a crime. If you don't want your face plastered on a billboard, just follow the rules and guidelines set forth by society and the government.

when I lived on Kadena Air Base in Okinawa, Japan, the base commander instituted a rule that cut down DUI/DWI/DWAI's to about 1 a year. The individual caught with a DUI would have lose their license for a year, lose a paygrade(could be anywhere from 4,000 - 15,000 a year), and fined between 2,000-10,000. On top of that they would have to go to each gate on the base every morning at 4 am to make sure their name and organization were on a display, and change how many days it was from their last offense. In my 6 years there, there was an individual that had to do this for 342 days straight.

I believe it worked well.