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Krell
February 12th, 2006, 10:14 PM
Our special investigation reveals that critical rise in world temperatures is now unavoidable
By Michael McCarthy, Environment Editor
Published: 11 February 2006

A crucial global warming "tipping point" for the Earth, highlighted only last week by the British Government, has already been passed, with devastating consequences.

Research commissioned by The Independent reveals that the accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere has now crossed a threshold, set down by scientists from around the world at a conference in Britain last year, beyond which really dangerous climate change is likely to be unstoppable.

The implication is that some of global warming's worst predicted effects, from destruction of ecosystems to increased hunger and water shortages for billions of people, cannot now be avoided, whatever we do. It gives considerable force to the contention by the green guru Professor James Lovelock, put forward last month in The Independent, that climate change is now past the point of no return.

The danger point we are now firmly on course for is a rise in global mean temperatures to 2 degrees above the level before the Industrial Revolution in the late 18th century.

At the moment, global mean temperatures have risen to about 0.6 degrees above the pre-industrial era - and worrying signs of climate change, such as the rapid melting of the Arctic ice in summer, are already increasingly evident. But a rise to 2 degrees would be far more serious.

By that point it is likely that the Greenland ice sheet will already have begun irreversible melting, threatening the world with a sea-level rise of several metres. Agricultural yields will have started to fall, not only in Africa but also in Europe, the US and Russia, putting up to 200 million more people at risk from hunger, and up to 2.8 billion additional people at risk of water shortages for both drinking and irrigation. The Government's conference on Avoiding Dangerous Climate Change, held at the UK Met Office in Exeter a year ago, highlighted a clear threshold in the accumulation of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere, which should not be surpassed if the 2 degree point was to be avoided with "relatively high certainty".

This was for the concentration of CO2 and other gases such as methane and nitrous oxide, taken together in their global warming effect, to stay below 400ppm (parts per million) in CO2 terms - or in the jargon, the "equivalent concentration" of CO2 should remain below that level.

The warning was highlighted in the official report of the Exeter conference, published last week. However, an investigation by The Independent has established that the CO2 equivalent concentration, largely unnoticed by the scientific and political communities, has now risen beyond this threshold.

This number is not a familiar one even among climate researchers, and is not readily available. For example, when we put the question to a very senior climate scientist, he said: "I would think it's definitely over 400 - probably about 420." So we asked one of the world's leading experts on the effects of greenhouse gases on climate, Professor Keith Shine, head of the meteorology department at the University of Reading, to calculate it precisely. Using the latest available figures (for 2004), his calculations show the equivalent concentration of C02, taking in the effects of methane and nitrous oxide at 2004 levels, is now 425ppm. This is made up of CO2 itself, at 379ppm; the global warming effect of the methane in the atmosphere, equivalent to another 40ppm of CO2; and the effect of nitrous oxide, equivalent to another 6ppm of CO2.

The tipping point warned about last week by the Government is already behind us.

"The passing of this threshold is of the most enormous significance," said Tom Burke, a former government adviser on the green issues, now visiting professor at Imperial College London. "It means we have actually entered a new era - the era of dangerous climate change. We have passed the point where we can be confident of staying below the 2 degree rise set as the threshold for danger. What this tells us is that we have already reached the point where our children can no longer count on a safe climate."

The scientist who chaired the Exeter conference, Dennis Tirpak, head of the climate change unit of the OECD in Paris, was even more direct. He said: "This means we will hit 2 degrees [as a global mean temperature rise]."

Professor Burke added: "We have very little time to act now. Governments must stop talking and start spending. We already have the technology to allow us to meet our growing need for energy while keeping a stable climate. We must deploy it now. Doing so will cost less than the Iraq war so we know we can afford it."

The 400ppm threshold is based on a paper given at Exeter by Malte Meinhausen of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Dr Meinhausen reviewed a dozen studies of the probability of exceeding the 2 degrees threshold at different CO2 equivalent levels. Taken together they show that only by remaining above 400 is there a very high chance of not doing so.

Some scientists have been reluctant to talk about the overall global warming effect of all the greenhouses gases taken together, because there is another consideration - the fact that the "aerosol", or band of dust in the atmosphere from industrial pollution, actually reduces the warming.

As Professor Shine stresses, there is enormous uncertainty about the degree to which this is happening, so making calculation of the overall warming effect problematic.

However, as James Lovelock points out - and Professor Shine and other scientists accept - in the event of an industrial downturn, the aerosol could fall out of the atmosphere in a matter of weeks, and then the effect of all the greenhouse gases taken together would suddenly be fully felt.


http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article344690.ece



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Lord_of_the_Dense
February 13th, 2006, 08:39 PM
Surf's Up!

DwarfBaby
February 13th, 2006, 09:07 PM
Nature will go through cycles. NO ONE can predict how severe this warming period will be or last. 1/10th a degree difference since the early 1900 is hardly doom. Ancient History has seen shifts in temperature a 100 times that value and life still exists. Nature will survive with or with out us. At least until our sun engulfs our planet a few billion years from now.



There will come soft rains and the smell of the ground,
And swallows circling with their shimmering sound;

And frogs in the pools singing at night,
And wild plum trees in tremulous white;

Robins will wear their feathery fire,
Whistling their whims on a low fence-wire;

And not one will know of the war, not one
Will care at last when it is done.

Not one would mind, neither bird nor tree,
If mankind perished utterly;

And Spring herself, when she woke at dawn
Would scarcely know that we were gone.

-- Sara Teasdale

Krell
February 13th, 2006, 09:27 PM
Nature will survive with or with out us.

maybe your missing the freakin point . . . its the "WITHOUT US" thats the point of contention here.

Not to mention that less land mass equals harder times for future generations

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Lord_of_the_Dense
February 13th, 2006, 10:06 PM
Mandatory children limitations may be on the horizon.

Theinfamousone
February 13th, 2006, 10:55 PM
It is serious, but I think that gas will start getting so expensive here in the next few years (or maybe months) now that the oil output is at full production and we still can't even keep up with the rate of consumption that the oil companies may finally be forced to abandon their stupid little "hold back any other kind of power source to delay having to adapt to a new market just so we can be lazy" kick. People just wont take it anymore.

Mels_Smileys45
February 14th, 2006, 03:22 AM
This is sure to end our short rule of the Earth and I think it will be a swift progression over the next ten years. The worst of it will be no food which will leed to horrors we dare not even think about. We won't have to worry about the price of oil as there will be no market for it. The only thing you will have to worry about is someone trying to eat you.


This isn't the end of the world, just the end of human beings. History does indeed repeat itself

shawners
February 14th, 2006, 05:42 AM
I noticed the last 3-5 years. In the winter time, its basically warm. It's now FEB and we are having our cold part yet. December was in the 80's. .And here its in the 40-77 temp range. Few years back it would sleet or snow on Thanksgiving day. Or around there. I had alot of cold mornings in the month of december as well as january, but now it hits us so late.
This is Texas by the way.

DwarfBaby
February 14th, 2006, 05:50 PM
maybe your missing the freakin point . . . its the "WITHOUT US" thats the point of contention here.

Not to mention that less land mass equals harder times for future generations

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No I don't think I missed the point. I think you missed mine. Unless you happen to believe in a higher power that will stop our "Ruining of the Earth" then we are all surly doomed. I don't mean that as an invitation to senselessly destroy our planet I'm only stated that all things as we know it will come to an end. It is only a matter of time. Unless some God exists and is willing to stop us, we will surly destroy ourselves.

Sorry if that sounds depressing but they switched my meds and I'm not in a happy mood.

Krell
February 14th, 2006, 06:33 PM
It's not about an inevitable extinction thats right around the corner, it's about the lack of quality of life and health for any future generations, and the impact to us genetically, our life spans etc.



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black_magiic
February 14th, 2006, 07:11 PM
There is only one semi appealing part of global warming for me. Where I live. Vancouver Island, victoria specficially is supposed to turn it one of the most desirable places to live in the entire world. It will be a tropical paradise. Sadly it really doesnt outweigh the cons. But I suppose if it is too late now and we're firmly tucked into a downward spiral might as well go into it with a smile on :)

The Hunter
February 14th, 2006, 07:25 PM
Its the defeatist, consumer attitude that will be our undoing. i had a lot of money dumped into our V8 truck, but I stopped driving it, and am selling it for parts. It worked fine, and is in good shape, but it was using our resources at a rate I didnt like, so we are now driving a 4 cylinder vehicle. Im simply amazed at North Americas desire to stick our heads in the sand. The cars are getting smaller, so we buy big trucks instead, and expect them to ride like cars, while polluting our atmosphere at an alarming rate. I was totally amazed when Jyls boss told her that they were not allowed to have a clothesline where they used to live in Texas. Do you mean that for astetic property values, its better to use a dryer, and waste our resources?

mountain_rage
February 14th, 2006, 08:52 PM
Look on the bright side along with the rest of the world goes all the lawyers, politicians and angry feminists.

Krell
February 14th, 2006, 09:02 PM
Im simply amazed at North Americas desire to stick our heads in the sand

I'm simply amazed at developing countries need to stick their dick in everything that has a pulse. Since '75 when I read Terracide, I knew we would all pay the piper for our waste, but I also knew we wouldnt address population control timely enough.

Smog from autos, or slash-n-burn, its all bad.



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Slycktom
February 14th, 2006, 09:34 PM
At least the rats and cockroaches will have plenty to eat.

black_magiic
February 14th, 2006, 10:20 PM
I will survive all of it I will make a body suit out of twinkies and live forever ruling over a kingdom of cockroaches and rats :D

Mels_Smileys45
February 15th, 2006, 04:22 AM
At least the rats and cockroaches will have plenty to eat.

In a few years we may be eating the rats and cockroaches.

Slycktom
February 15th, 2006, 05:17 AM
Hmm...I can see that to some extent - at least in the beginning. But they'll win eventually.

shawners
February 15th, 2006, 06:04 AM
In a few years we may be eating the rats and cockroaches.


We already have. Survivor and Fear factor.