Winmx leechers,any solution?

[manu323323]

I'm getting really pissed off by all these leechers in my que in winmx.
I now there's a program for kazaa called kazaa kontrol that automatically removes leechers from you'r que.
Is there a similar program for winmx?
Does anyone knows how to contact the winmx developers?
any other solution?

All help will be apreciated

P.S. Leechers, you are destroying p2p.Why don't you just share? It doesn't even slow down you'r downloads!

[manu323323]

Originally posted by grab_grab_the_haddock
it does affect your downloads if your on dial-up.

kazaa kontrol is ok, but its easy to get round. just put a couple of crappy jpegs or notepad documents in your download folder.

there are lots of different ways of leeching, what about the ones who only share their incomplete files, or peeps who restrict their upload bandwidth so no-one can get their files.

and what about the newbies who are only starting out with winMX? they may not even know how to rip a disc. hardly a good advertisement for the p2p community if they keep gettin cancelled.

It is so easy to rip cd's these days,you just make a search in a searchrobot and you get a lot of programs to rip.

It's easy to put a few jpg's,but if the developers put a minimum
total size of files to share, for example 300mb.
Even if you just started,it's not difficult to get 300mb with audio cd's.

And about the bandwith limiting, they should all do like xolox.
How lower the upload bandwith,how lower the download bandwith

[marcan]

Leechers really bother me.

I have 3 000 mp3’s, most of them with high quality and I’m happy to share what I like. But when I see peoples who obviously don’t want to share, I’m pissed off. If I’m making the same, they couldn’t even try to download the song… So I’m wasting my time to kick out leechers.

So for the beginners, as said before, they can copy their favourite Cd’s.

For the bandwidth, there is several ways to handle that (secondary connection, queuing, bandwidth, …).

I think that the solution could be in WinMX. Like AudioGalaxy (I miss you), when you have less than 10 shared mp3’s, you can’t download more than one file at a time. But you can easily cheat with it (putting fake mp3).

The best solution should be a username with points. Each time you put one byte in the system (uploading, primary connection), your points will increase. Each time you get one byte from the system (downloading), your points will decrease. Now when you are in a queue, your priority is managed according to your points. So the fair users will be encouraged.

With that system, WinMX will get into a virtuous circle. Users will be interested to share more, so more choice, less queue… more users, more…

If somebody knows how to ask that to WinMX, I will be very happy…

[klgray]

I don't see what the big deal is. I share with everyone on my queue. I want to give back the help I got when I first started with hardly any files to share exept nonsense jpgs. People were generous and let me d/l from them regardless of how many files I had to share. And I want to give that back to the community.

Be patient guys, most of us here are good with computers, ripping and etc, but there are some who don't have a clue. Some don't even know they have to rip their own CD's before they log on to a file sharing client.

Sure, the want to get ripping software and then try to d/l from one of you guys and their d/l gets cancelled.

Also, I don't have the time or energy to look at each and everyone of the people in my queue to see how many files they have or how good their files are. I d/l what I want and leave my house, go to sleep, or do something else.

I think there are enough people out there that truly share their files. There are people that don't, but not so much to make your panties ripple over.

[nb_v1.0]

Well a reason would be (even though i h8 leechers) that people with dial up and cable in general have a (example:300mb limit per month so ppl only have 300meg a month and when they share a few hours pass and their allowance for the month is already gone :(

[Fatboyslack54]

Exactly Krell!!! Hell f*&*^n ya man!!!! Screw the gay point system as you can see it didnt work on kazaa lite!!!!! krell is right. NICE RESPONSE KRELL!:devil

[notbob]

here's a solution:
everyone who shares, stop using winmx for 1 month

once the leeches find 0 files to get, they move onto greener pastures in gnutella or kazaa or whatnot

then all the sharers come back and make sure the leeches don't find out, and post things on p2p sites saying that winmx is dead and so on

that's all i can think of right now, i call it the "fake your own death to get away from creditors" plan

ooops... it seems i've said too much <cyanide capsule taken>

gasp
gasp
must.... hit.... send......

urghhhhh

[klgray]

Originally posted by Krell
klgray . . how altruistic of you. You may cut in front of me when we stand in line to go to heaven. The fact that your opening sentence is " I dont see what the big deal is " clearly identifies you as clueless.

Your "Im 18 . . . dont bother me with the details, I just download and go shopping, I cant be bothered to deal with leechers" attitude doesnt address the problem here.

AND . . nb_v1.0 . .. . HELLO MCFLY . . . . if you cant afford anything but a shitty little ISP with a few hours, then check your mail and STAY off the P2P!

And the points thing . . you think you can make that any more F**d up and convaluted than it already is ? I got your points right here.

In the perfect file sharing world of Krell, everyone would be a sharer of X# of files, or they would not be, period!

So . . . I click a little button that says, filter non-sharers, and * poofy cheesballs* they are not able to queue. period!

If I turn off my filter, I can share with the poor bleeding heart liberals the likes of you, and then, cut in front of you in the line to go to heaven.

When youve been sharing as long as I have, or a much as I have, then you can decide if you want rippling panties or not.

thats a wrap

.

First off, I took the "I'm 18" as a compliment. LOL I'm faaaar from it!

Secondly, I am far from clueless b/c I keep up with what's going on in the p2p world, so I know what you guys are talking about!

Next, if you have a problem with me wanting to do other things while I d/l on winmx, I just chalk that off as your problem!

Finally, if you think you are getting your point across via insults/personal attacts --- Guess what? It doesn't work!!

[klgray]

I have a right to my opinion - unless of course this is a one sided thread of which it's not. If you don't like what I have to say, tough luck!

End of story

PS. I had to make this short b/c I see a tree outside that needs a good huggin......:heart

[AreYouTalkingToMe?]

Castration won't do the trick. Once castrated, leachers will have nothing to worry about.
I say, let's stick to something that's been working for centuries, let's stick to debt collecting/Yakooza techniques, namely bustin' chops and hacking fingers.

Venting... venting... venting...Done

So, let's sum all leaching techniques known to date before devising means to intercept, shall we?
1. Sharing few files (or no files at all), low bit-rate MP3, etc.
2. Sharing tiny itsy-bitsy files while trying to dl huge ISOs and Movies.
3. Setting up a firewall, so seemingly sharing files but actually nowbody can download (didn't you ever see these "1 of 1 available" and at the same time, a 100 ppl Q? or being unable to Q up?)
4. Sharing only partial files.

What I propose is that:
1. You won't be able to dl huge files unless you're sharing complete one. the more big files you download, the more you should share.
2. You can't download unless someone is (or was recently) uploading from you.
3. Add settings that would alow you to relex these restrictions, or to set them up accordingly.
4. Make the whois more informative, show in it how many complete files, how many big files, average MP3 bit-rate. Make it easier to kick them leachers without having to actually browse their files.


In the interim, Krell proposal is the best weapon we've got.

[Caitlyn Marble]

this is to anyone who thinks leechers aren't a problem:

do you like queues? no, i didn't think so. do you have queues? yeah, if you share. now, if you haven't ever done so, I want you so browseandwhois all the users that download from you a file bigger than 10 megs. (or if all you have is mp3's, then browse everyone) keep tally of the users with more than 10 files and the users with less and none. you'll see there's quite a number who don't have anything/much to share. Now think about all those people who wait ahead of you in queues, who take up time downloading rare shit that they aren't going to share. rare shit that if you'd gotten you would have shared. have you ever gotten cut off mid-queue when the user went offline? could you have gotten though if the leechers weren't taking up downloading and queue spots? considering all the users that leeched off you, the chances are pretty damn good.

[notbob]

never had a queue in file sharing--how?
when programs leech out and turn to crap i move on

of course none of this is a problem in DC++, since non sharers can't even get in (yes they can fake, but it isn't difficult to pick them out and boot them)

[notbob]

get yourself mosearch from www.mosearch.net

(if it doesn't work, use this link

ftp://zp:mosearch@notbob.servemp3.com )

search all known hubs on 5 hublists (about 3000)
tons of results for whatever you want, makes kazaa look like a jar of cold piss

[klgray]

Yeah, I tried "FileShare" that is like a DC and was quite impressed. I d/led it b/c I like to play around with different file-sharing programs.

It's good if you don't like leechers. I recommend it.

[Dr_wired]

I was a leech. Then I shared out 2300 MP3s. Did people appreciate it? NO! I got instant messages like:

FUCK YOU
YOU SUCK
You're slow
go fuck yourself
you don't got no movies
STOP DOWNLOADING FROM ME!

Is the RIAA or MPAA sending these messages?

People, if someone is sharing files, don't send them messages like these, it only discourages filesharing.

[klgray]

Isn't that funny? And then you go to reply to them just to find out that you're either ignored or they don't allow incoming messages. So, "fuck you" w/o an explaination is so lame. For that reason, I don't allow incoming messages at all.

But the rules are if you want a movie, you have to share a movie that that the guy you're d/ling from likes. If you want a game, you have to share a game that the other guy likes. If you want Adobe Photoshop, you have to have Norton System Works 2003 to share. If you want a music video, you have to have music videos to share and so on.

That is a slight exaggeration, but that's the basic jist of it if you are using Winmx or the like. And those are the 'unwritten rules'. Whatever.

Is this the case with you?

[Lenin1928]

Wow, just look at the contridiction, we have a FREE file sharing community that CREATES class distinction within itself.

You got 0 files to share you must be a LEECH LOL...

Most people say P2P is to be used as a tool to level the playing fields against the "Evil Corperations" who use Capitailisim against us. Most people say it was a growing trend that corperations ignored untill it was too late. Whats quite funny is the latter people always say that P2P will never be a pay service. And the former always say it will be.

I find it quite hypocritical that either group would distinguish file sharers as two types of people, the first group would go against their whole concept and the second group would turn P2P into a pay service if their angry little rants proliferate.

So a word to the ignorant and short tempered, you had better shut up and put up if you want a free file sharing community to continue to grow, LEECHES are the result of a free file sharing community so you better get used to it, or you can always go the RIAA way.

[klgray]

<<<Karen sends a steamy hot kiss in Krell's direction>>>

[The Hunter]

:shy I dont spend all my life checking for who shares, but when I do check, and you are just sharing your partial downloads, you get your ass kicked, with a polite message. It is polite, I will admit I dont check all songs, but if you q up for 2 or 3 I do check to see if you are a leach. If it is for a video or a movie your ass will be checked, not for the bandwidth it cost me, but for those who are waiting for the files, and if you dont share it takes that much longer to get them. PS the honest56k,ers get started the same as the rest. They started all the sharing. All the best.

[NerveKnob]

Sure there are many leechers, but so what. I share from my home computer but download from my work computer. Work is so much faster and home is just too slow. But work is very particular about what can be done, so I don't chance sharing there. Plus, if IT monitors traffic and sees uploading, I could get in serious trouble and they may easily ban all access. So, for that reason, it appears that I'm not sharing, when indeed I have a machine at home with hundreds of files.

Too many users cop this "Teach 'em a lesson" attitude. Just relax. This is what the whole thing is about. Choice. When you break it down logically, those of us that do share have enough material to accomadate all. Even if some users choose not to share, the percentage of us that do, make up for it.

I don't condemn anyone for not sharing, because I'm not in the position to understand their situation. Those of you who get so damn pissed, probably are the same type of people to get pissed off at OTHER misconcieved notions. I would guess that most of you ANGRY types are the type who also wonder about their girlfriend's true feelings, or have anxiety about their dick size. I even bet many of those angry types would not share lotto winnings with their friends or family (because they didn't share something with you), maybe you were forced to share your toys with your sibling as a kid and you hated it.

The thing is.... I don't care. I will share and those who share with me keep this whole thing working. Those who don't, I don't judge. Like one user said, most users don't know how or can't control it."

Let it go. :gj

[Lenin1928]

I am not really sure why I am bothering even to respond, to an person who clearly needs anger management, who wrote such an ignorant and small minded post.

And please keep in mind Krell, when I wrote the last post I was more specifically talking about you then anyone else, theres no "US" involved at all.

I would think the solution to your problem or "problems" is to get off of such a service as WinMX and move to a more secure network that has rules regarding files shared size. But then again I would think that to be very obvious to anyone who isn't wasting their time pouting and raveing on a message board about something he can do very little about, next to shutting down such popular P2P services that incourage leeching by not setting an amount you must have shared.

But then again if such services set such a standard you would see less use of such networks because this would restrict how it is used, now instead of putting some files on a computer at home and going to work and downloading what you forgot at home off of your computer through a P2P network you would first have to clutter your computer at work full of files that would equal a certain amount of disk space first. GET OVER IT!!!

And just for your information, which it isn't, my name is for John Lennon who transformed the cold war by introduceing their music to Russian teens which you can read about here, http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4092816,00.html

Although that may seem to be a complex paradox, regarding my name it is no more (read slowly) para·doxi·cal then you sharing files you do not own the original CD for yet calling me communist.

[The Hunter]

:shy A novel idea why not just work at work, and keep the company bandwidth there own.

[Lenin1928]

NerveKnob congradulations!, you've just been moved up a couple of noches in my class system, to bad some people, like Krell for instance, might stay at the bottom for a long time, oh well thats usually where leeches stay in the wildlife too. :tol lol

[NerveKnob]

One person (The Hunter) asks why I don't just work while at work (lol). Well, actually I am, my job entails music production for broadcasting. So we use p2p clients to download music directly to the workstation quickly for production. High bitrate MP3's are fine fidelity for radio network broadcast. Since, we are already licensed for all songs under blanket licenses from ASCAP, SESAC, and BMI, it's legal for us. If I didn't use p2p, I would need to go to the music archives of our building, cross reference a number system to find a CD, rip the CD to the workstation and then cleanup, plus return material. You can see the difference in time.

So, short answer is... that is my job. Which is even a more novel idea. So, you see, this is exactly my point in my original post. You don't know what I do, so you immediately judged that I was abusing company bandwidth. (said light-heartedly) And, this is what I mean about leeching. You never know most of the situations.