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Jared Moya
January 17th, 2006, 09:10 AM
<p>In a 6-3 vote, justices rejected a Bush administration effort to punish doctors who help terminally ill patients die. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The court said the 1997 Oregon doctor-assisted suicide law trumps federal power to regulate doctors. The Oregon law has been used to end the lives of more than 200 seriously ill people. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The court rejected a Bush administration attempt to use a federal drug law to prosecute doctors for prescribing overdoses. Then-Attorney-General John Ashcroft said in 2001 that doctor-assisted suicide isn't a &quot;legitimate medical purpose.&quot;</p>

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silentscream
January 17th, 2006, 09:25 AM
im all for euthanasia (spelling?)

why live in suffering

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Jared Moya
January 17th, 2006, 09:32 AM
Amen, plus the ultimate concern here is shouldnt one have control over his own body? These days we can literally keep you alive FOREVER, wheter you like it or not. Cant tell you how many times people have forgotten to make a will and have fallen victim to an accident, and selfish family members, who usually never even really saw or visiste the person at all, want the person kept alive at all costs, even if the person will never recover.

mfgbypooter
January 17th, 2006, 09:46 AM
Amen, plus the ultimate concern here is shouldnt one have control over his own body?Right.

After all, that is the argument pro choice people use.

So it should be just as much a right for drug users and prostitutes too.

Legalize all drugs for personal use, NOW!

Legalize all forms of prostitution, NOW!

If death and killing is legal, why not dope and doing it for denaro?

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Jau_Peacecraft
January 17th, 2006, 11:45 AM
it's time like these were I'm proud of at least one little detail of the government:

checks and balances

i wouldn't be surprised to see a civil war between the state and federal level eventually.

Gamer8585
January 17th, 2006, 12:04 PM
<Quote>
i wouldn't be surprised to see a civil war between the state and federal level eventually.</Quote>

That already happend in the 1860's. (CSA was fighting for greater states rights [similar to the "Articles of Confedracy"] and USA was fighting for the powers of the central government under the Constatution.

Guess who won.

Jared Moya
January 17th, 2006, 12:12 PM
Right.

After all, that is the argument pro choice people use.

So it should be just as much a right for drug users and prostitutes too.

Legalize all drugs for personal use, NOW!

Legalize all forms of prostitution, NOW!

If death and killing is legal, why not dope and doing it for denaro?

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Why not, other countries, most of, if not all of Europe in fact, have legaluized prostitutiom and thereby much lower rates of rape and sexual battery. Also, many countries have decriminalized drugs to minimize the socially devastating effects of the user and his addiction. Been to Amsterdam? Loved it, great place and safe as hell because the nutcase addicts dont have to bother everybody else with their propblem. Its cheap and there are places to do it.


Plus, whats ironic, is people forget the basis for the "social compact" that originated the idea of govt intheir first place, that is that it should be restricted to governing those conflicts and conditions that arise AMONGST men, not within the individual. Only when a persons actions rise to the point of interfering with the pursuits of another should they be curtailed. Like heroin? Fine, do it at your house until you pass it. Its your life. Want help? then we should offer rehab if you WANT it. Instead of the taxpayer paying 40,000 a pop a year incarcerating a stupid junkie we could afford to pay the healthcare premiums of what like 20 families? Multiply that times say 10, 000 addicts in prison and we could have health care benefits for like 200, 000 working poor families. Which is better?



<Quote>
i wouldn't be surprised to see a civil war between the state and federal level eventually.</Quote>

That already happend in the 1860's. (CSA was fighting for greater states rights [similar to the "Articles of Confedracy"] and USA was fighting for the powers of the central government under the Constatution.

Guess who won.

Yep, the Civil War was about STATES RIGHTS not SLAVERY, as the textbooks like to say, and what's ironic is that the Bush Administration, for all its faults, the main one in my opinion is that it fails to support the premise of states rights vs federal authority. It supports the states only when they have the same view.


If we let the states decide we wouldnt have half the BS politics we do now. Whats good in Nebraska aint always good for Floiride and vice versa. For example, Maine has like 5 black people I swear, its kinda spooky, made a buddy of mine an instant SIDESHOW, if you will, at a bar in the middle of nowhere when I was in the service. Though no fan of affirmative action, it may be needed there to foster a healthier learning environment. But here in Cali, we have the rainbow, literally up North, lololoo, and would argue dont need. So FEDERAL affirmative action isnt needed, but a state by state consideration is in order.

mfgbypooter
January 17th, 2006, 12:17 PM
Damn soul, legaluized prostitutiom?

Been hittin' it pretty early, eh?

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Jared Moya
January 17th, 2006, 02:55 PM
Oh yah DIG the DANK.......just think the govt should focus on the important shit, not whether Sally Joe is hooking up with John Doe for 50 bucks, how about something actually important, like that pensions are going bye bye for everybody, ie IBM and ALCOA, as of yesterday, or the foster home quagmire, or hey, how about something actually real important like the median home price in most cities being 500,000, who the f makes enough to make the mortage? Instead, we got whole of teams of cops at 60,000 a pop doing surveillance on John Doe getting a BJ, why not have em keep an eye on places where the REAL crimes going on instead, where theres drive bys and gang violence........anybody got a light? (inhales.....cough, cough.......:P)

muffenme
January 18th, 2006, 12:55 PM
One thing I wish the people of the US would stop thinking is that if someone can do something doesn't mean that they would.
Ending of ones live should be up to that person and not the courts to desided for him/her and his/her doctor if he/she wants to include one.
Why so bad about dying when its the normal part of life. Self termination should be allow when ones life is about to end in a short time or he/she would end up living of life at which they live for nothing. If you are healthy all the way around then no. If you are sick and there no cure for your problem then it up to the doctor and person.

meyou123
January 18th, 2006, 01:02 PM
@MUFFUMNE...It is not ONLY people in the US that make those kind of decisions! Get your facts straight.

MorphineInduced
January 18th, 2006, 07:11 PM
well its like anything else i see when i turn on the news ....... the government is just trying to control every aspect of my life , and if i dont follow if they get there way they shall punish me....... and yet they are paying a 100 dollars to students at colleges to give taped or written statements of professors that teach views that are against the government and the bush followers...... ya i guess no one noticed that we are the soviet government more and more everyday.......... you say that you wouldnt be surprised if there was civil war to break out between the state and government but i wouldnt be surprised if the near future was of what we see in iraq.......... its only a matter of time

Jared Moya
January 21st, 2006, 03:43 PM
e....... and yet they are paying a 100 dollars to students at colleges to give taped or written statements of professors that teach views that are against the government and the bush followers....

Your facts are off buddy, the 100 dollars you refer to is being doled out by a committe of UCLA alumnis, at the behest of a recent graduate who had been Pres of the College Republicans group. And he dosent care about anything anti-Bushor or necessarily anit-govt, he wanted to hear if professors were teaching far left ideas, which should be fine to know considering you wouldnt want students being taught far right ideas either. You want even keeled middle of the road approaches to learning.

Digital Bliss
January 22nd, 2006, 11:00 AM
No law will stop people from killing their selves bunch of pussies if you ask me needing help in doing it. Just get a gun knife or stand on a high ledge problem slovled.