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soulxtc
December 20th, 2005, 03:46 PM
THE Soviet dictator Josef Stalin ordered the creation of Planet of the Apes-style warriors by crossing humans with apes, according to recently uncovered secret documents.
Moscow archives show that in the mid-1920s Russia's top animal breeding scientist, Ilya Ivanov, was ordered to turn his skills from horse and animal work to the quest for a super-warrior.
According to Moscow newspapers, Stalin told the scientist: "I want a new invincible human being, insensitive to pain, resistant and indifferent about the quality of food they eat."
In 1926 the Politburo in Moscow passed the request to the Academy of Science with the order to build a "living war machine". The order came at a time when the Soviet Union was embarked on a crusade to turn the world upside down, with social engineering seen as a partner to industrialisation: new cities, architecture, and a new egalitarian society were being created.
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The Soviet authorities were struggling to rebuild the Red Army after bruising wars.
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notbob
December 20th, 2005, 04:32 PM
i didn't know you came from russia!
at least their experiments were partially successful, we have living proof right here on zp!
B@lle
January 9th, 2006, 03:13 AM
monkeys are cool
mountain_rage
January 9th, 2006, 09:07 AM
That just makes me think of the game im playing right now, farcry. They got some mutated monkey human things.
.:sp00ky:.
January 9th, 2006, 09:19 AM
i didn't know you came from russia!
at least their experiments were partially successful, we have living proof right here on zp!
lol!
oh I didn't like the scary monkey men in far cry :(
soulxtc
January 9th, 2006, 09:42 AM
wahst worse in that game is when you have to knock out that radar tower with the stupid pinging in your monkey brain making the screen fade in and out, drove me f-in nuts, like it was almost happening in real life............glad I finished that dam game
mungopw
December 10th, 2007, 01:27 PM
Soviet Professor Ilya Ivanov attempted to create a human-ape hybrid using female chimps impregnated and human sperm and planned to use women volunteers impregnated with chimp sperm. Ivanov's experiments have been documented by Kirill Rossiianov (Institute for the History of Science and Technology of the Academy of Sciences, Moscow), "Beyond Species: Ilya Ivanov and His Experiments on Cross-Breeding Humans with Anthropoid Apes," Science in Context, 2002, p. 277-316.
In a presentation to the World Congress of Zoologists in Graz in 1910, he outlined the possibility of using artificial insemination to create a hybrid. In 1924, while working at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, Ivanov gained permission from the Institute's directors to use its experimental primate station in Kindia, French Guinea, for his hybridisation experiments. He requested backing for this project from the Soviet government, writing to Soviet officials including the People's Commissar on Education and Science Anatoliy Vasilievich Lunacharsky. In September 1925, Nikolai Petrovich Gorbunov, head of the Department of Scientific Institutions helped allocate US$10000 to the Academy of Sciences for Ivanov's human-ape hybridization experiments in Africa.
In March 1926 Ivanov arrived at the Kindia facility, but left after a month because the facility had no sexually mature chimpanzees. Ivanov attempted to organize the insemination of human females with chimpanzee sperm in Guinea, but the French colonial government objected to the proposal. There is no evidence such an experiment was arranged there. Back in France he corresponded with French Guinea's colonial governor and arranged to conduct his experiments at the botanical gardens in Conakry. Ivanov, assisted by his son (also called Ilya), went to Conakry in November 1926 where he oversaw the capture of adult chimpanzees in the interior of the colony. These were caged at the botanical gardens in Conakry. On February 28, 1927, Ivanov artificially inseminated 2 female chimps with human sperm (not sourced from him or his son). On June 25, he injected a third chimpanzee with human sperm. The Ivanovs left Africa in July 1927 with 13 chimps, including the 3 artificially inseminated females. They already knew that the first 2 chimps had not conceived. The third died in France and was also found not to have conceived. The remaining 10 chimps went to the Sukhumi primate station.
Ivanov returned to the Soviet Union in 1927 and attempted to organize experiments at Sukhumi using ape sperm and human females. In 1929, with the help of Gorbunov, he gained the support of the Society of Materialist Biologists (a group associated with the Communist Academy). In Spring 1929 the Society set up a commission to plan Ivanov's experiments at Sukhumi. They required at least 5 volunteer women for the project. In June 1929, before any inseminations had taken place, the only sexually mature ape remaining at Sukhumi (an orangutan) had died. A new set of chimps would not arrive at Sukhumi until Summer 1930. That year, a political shakeup in the Soviet scientific world resulted in Gorbunov and several other Sukhumi scientists losing their positions. In Spring 1930 Ivanov came under political criticism and on December 13, 1930 he was arrested and exiled to Alma Ata, where he died in 1932.
There have been persistent rumours of a Chinese humanzee experiment; the rumoured 3 month foetus died when the mother was killed during civil unrest. There are similar rumours of a humanzee or manpanzee experiment in the USA. In the 1960s there were persistent rumours of a Russian experiment to inseminate either a female chimpanzee or a female gorilla with human sperm. Bernard Grizmek, former Frankfurt Zoo director, wrote of rumours from the Soviet Union that the Russians had created a human/chimpanzee hybrid (probably a mis-reporting of Ilya Ivanov's experiments). More recently, a news story claimed that Stalin ordered his scientists to create an army of human/ape hybrids, because they would be less fussy about what they ate. Though nothing came of this, it may have been the origin of the rumours. http://www.messybeast.com/genetics/hybrid-primates.htm
YWD67
December 10th, 2007, 02:31 PM
Below is an artist rendition of what a manpanzee might look like and it's possible intellectual level.
flickfan82x
February 1st, 2008, 01:35 PM
Wow, he was crazyy.
jcubed
May 20th, 2008, 12:29 AM
Does anyone else kind of wish they were a manpanzee?
barbanza
May 20th, 2008, 07:05 AM
Well in the United States they made experiments too, it was supossed to be for inteligence but the subject became a super Idiot, you can see him on the news on a daily basis George Bush, experiments don't always work lol