Developers - Help Encourage Sharing...

[JAZ4LIFE]

I encourage all developers - provide a setting to allow people who share their files to 'NOT SHARE' with any particular user(s) who do not. For example, KAZAA LITE provides a user 'participation rating'. Those with a rating of 0 typically don't share, don't take messages, yet clog my upload bandwidth helping themselves to my files.

I'm happy to share but p2p kinda sounds like 'share n share alike'. I'd like to be able to cut off selfish folks who don't share so that the generous people can have better access to my shared files.

People who take but aren't willing to share, in my opinion, are rather....selfish...

Let's have some means of 'encouraging' people to share. We can't force them too but a setting as I've described above would help.

[cpugeniusmv]

first let me start by saying, i share. second, put yourself in the position of the "leechers"...there are legitimate reasons for not sharing, although, i've only run into one...bandwidth cap...this is becoming more commonly used, and i'm sure that there are more legitimate reasons. but yes, people should share if they can.

[whiff]

check the Options dialog in your program, certain programs have had these kind of anti-leech features for years.

[Canary]

The issue of digital leeches will never die. I DO believe it is active participation that keeps the network alive, but at the same time, I try to avoid being presumptuous.

There are any number of reasons why users may temporarily disable sharing and there are faults within networks that cause improper display or even no display of files shared.

There are many generous users who may not share files when they are downloading but will leave their pc turned on for others for hours while they're away.

And then you always have those who are inept, unorganized, and uninformed.. so we need to help them along a bit, rather than cut them. :upside

[Sephiroth]

Anti-leech features just do not work. The best way to prevent a "leech" problem is to make the program and sharing easy to use and the encourage users to share by means other than holding the digital gun to their head. Also people shouldnt be worried because everyone who is uploading off of them dont have T3 and over 100 gigs of shared files.. People who dont share should be used for other network tasks which is very feasible on decentralized networks and is what will probably be done in the future.

[MorningSon]

DC++

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by Dealie
Too funny.

Most of the files downloaded in the world are on a leech only basis. Every time you grab a file from cnet do you offer to send them something? No? YOU LEECH! Do you even bother to review the program and post your comments?

How many of you use shareware or freeware programs downloaded from the web and return nothing to the community that originated it? YOU LEECH! YOU SHOULD BE BANNED!

Most irc chans are leech only. Asking to trade or share gets you kicked and banned real fast. You wanna send crap. you setup a server, And it had better be no ratio and leech only. Or you get banned for that too. Instant outcast!

Since leeching is bad you had all better stay off irc, Where most of the files come from in the first place! An example. ALL of the enterprise caps orginate on irc in a leech only channel. ALL of the southpark on the p2p apps came from there too. Leech only. I could go on for pages listing things that made it to the p2p community via a leech only transfer to begin with. And if you had your way, That would not be.

For every p2p with anti-leech features there are hacks comming out just as fast as the programs. Leeches outnumber the rest of you people who think sharing makes you morally superior.

It will ALWAYS be that way. And attempting to stop it just pisses more people off and gets them to write a new hack.

Most of your files you have NOW. Passed thru someone you would call a leech. You dont seem to mind that at all.

Some leech from one p2p and share it all on another. Some burn cd's for friends. Some download from high bandwidth connections that they CANNOT share from. The possibilitys are endless. What you call a leech is actually a person who is contributing someway somehow and since its in a way you dont like. You call them a leech and want them cut off forever.

Stop being such self richeous prigs and get on with the downloading. And quit worrying about whos leeching and whos not. You'll be happier. And we wont have to listen to you complaining about leeches anymore.

Let me tell you what is wrong with what you have said. Download.com is just for that, downloading. Do you really think they would WANT uploads? They already probably get about a 100 emails a day with viruses.

Downloading from the web is not a p2p program. Something on the web to be downloaded is ment to be downloaded.

You are obviously a newbie when it comes to irc. F Serv channels are also ment for people to come in a take. You have to understand though, that irc is alot different than kazaa. People come there because they KNOW what they want, but also, F Serv users also DO collect files from others (That is how they got them in the first place). irc can be a friendly place if you find a good channel and meet the right people (and watch out for the bots).

"Stop being such self richeous prigs"
I think you should follow your own advice.

EDIT: To answer the top question (I always seem to go off topic :-P), I agree with Sephiroth that anti-leech tools just do not work. If, however, they were to be implemented effectively, then that would be great!

[CCSDUDE]

Good tid bit of info, thanx Krell......are there any good stable gnu app's? I'd like to join in but I'm not willing to have the damn thing crashing my system every other hour......14kbs isn't too bad LOL every little bit helps....anyway get back to me on the best gnu app you've found so far.



Peace all, Later

[CCSDUDE]

Thanx anyway....I'll check out Shar-za or whatever it's called...but I'm not going to go digging LOL



Peace all, Later

[Ken17625]

I downloaded that same "eBook" that Krell posted from Gnutella about a year ago. At the time I thought it was a good read. Now there are, obviously, better networks than Gnutella.