How can we make ZeroPaid a better site?

[Jorge]

After the drama of last week I woke up this morning thinking "What can I do to make ZP a better place?"

I have hired SoulXTC to crank out guides for users, which he will be doing more of in the future and we have created a neat place for members to upload favorite photos and even thought about re-opening the donor thingie for private top notch p2p conversation...

Ideally, i would like to get more content into the site to make zp more suitable for new members and keep us growing.

So how can i make ZP a better place?

ps. if you leave a stupid reply, i will just delete your post as i am not in the mood...

[Auggie2k]

I believe CJ suggested a guide thread be made. It could be made up of all the sticky threads (the likes of malicious's BT one ect.)

[silentscream]

i think there should be an exclusive set of rules to be read for new users before u can make ure first post

and some way of making sure they read them (like a mini test lol)

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[Auggie2k]

Oh god yes, a specific number of posts before getting an avatar, signature and thread making capabilities.

[silentscream]

Oh god yes, a specific number of posts before getting an avatar, signature and thread making capabilities.
now thats the perfect idea

no more :

free ipod threads
stupid polls
or "where can i get shit for free" lack of info style posts

genius

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[Dark Messenger]

What did you mean by the drama of last week? Are you referring to the upgrade that messed up some of the links? What is it that bothers you about the site now and oh yes I need to mention the last time I checked comments in the news I thought the layout/design colors for that were perfect...I hope it hasn't changed since the last time I checked.

I'd change your logo to a dollar bill. Preferrably a one dollar bill with George washingtons face in the middle and the logo to "0paid" with a zero + paid.

Of course the dollarbill wouldn't be very long..kinda of squished...i'd also make a money motif for the background using white with either x,y lime green stripes.

May I make my own parody site and call it 0laid?

[KingJohn]

Place is good, dont make it another FTM ! (STF)

[Malicious Intent]

No point in doing more to help n00bs if it is all going to be ruined scam adverts.

I've therefore decided to back scamming new people.

Instead I think we need to start making ZP a site you graduate to from other sites. A position ZP needs to start to wrestle back from p2pconsortium.

I'll leave the magic of doing that up to someone the web master.

[mountain_rage]

How about some kind of setup where new artist(musicians, idependant film makers, etc) can sign a contract stating that they will always allow their content shared on filesharing networks then have their bandname placed on a list along with maybe a .torrent link to their creations. Then any merchandise they wanna sell can be sold through the zeropaid store with a small portion of the profits going back to zeropaid. This would not only contribute to the comunity as a ressource for free sharable content but also help out those who are pro p2p get known as well as help fund the site.

The only problem with this idea is that its a huge undertaking and would probably require hours uppon hours of work. I was just thinking of such a system the other day and thought it would be ideal for zeropaid.

[shawners]

How can me make a serious p2p guide with ad to pay p2p program sites? I suggest we use what we have at hand.. Nothing to point others to scam sites in the guide area. Instead.. Links to all the appropriate stuff that is needed. A guide should have steps in them. . 1, 2, 3 4. Not paraghraps but things to do whats next. And each guide should show you how to configure it, open up the ports.. And such.

[Potato]

Maybe a separate area of closed threads that are just guides. That could be the noe-stop place to go for info. on everything. It'd be easier to find and easier to reference.

There are already a bunch of really good guides that have been put together by various members here. I know they're stickied in various forums but some newbs just never know where the hell to go. Even if the same guide is posted multiple times in multiple areas, I think that would help.

[mfgbypooter]

If the ads must be here, at least move the ads from on top of the content to the bottom. And on the front page collapse the p2p software highlights links section to make the news section more prominent.

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[fleecy]

definitely make guidelines clearer for newbs. maybe we'd be less irritating to the veterans.

[PBR_Street_Gang]

This is an easy one: Bring back "A-Team Van".

[Sparky9]

an arcade?

[ducttapeBigSexy]

How about some kind of setup where new artist(musicians, idependant film makers, etc) can sign a contract stating that they will always allow their content shared on filesharing networks then have their bandname placed on a list along with maybe a .torrent link to their creations...

I'm going to build on that idea: Let's create a section with torrents and magnet links for open-source software and media created under a Creative Commons license. A while back ZP featured the premiere of a music video, which I thought was an excellent idea. I know at the time, I suggested that it should have been distributed via BitTorrent or some other p2p network, and I still think it would have been a good idea. Just think: take ZP from just an information source to a full-blown content distribution center! What other web sites can you think of feature a close community and distribute a wide-variety of content?


Jorge, you could even capitalize on this without turning content submitters away. For example, artists and software developers could submit their content for free, and, for a fee, they could have it listed in a special section, etc.


I honestly don't think this would add too much overhead, either; one or two users could be put in charge of verifying that the content being added is legit. In fact, ZP could even start up it's own tracker!


Granted, there's still some other things I would like to see taken care of here at ZP, such as reducing the number of n00b posts. To take care of the free iPod-like threads, tighter rules will need to be put in place. For example, users with less then 10 posts are not allowed to post links, etc. To take care of the “where I do get XXX from” posts, perhaps when new users register, first take them to a page that lists all the guide threads.


Oh, and let's get cj posting more :-P

[notbob]

it doesn't matter what you do

lazy people will always make stupid posts instead of looking for the answer

look at slyck--they have the best guides out there, and have just as many stupid newb posts as there are here

banning people hasn't worked, they just keep coming back, rules are unevenly enforced, there aren't enough effective moderators, and there is no way you will ever make the 1000 or so regular users that you have all happy

this site can't be everything to everyone, no matter how much you want it to

[crackerjacker]

an arcade?
hi sparky ;)
well yeah that would of been great but now i just post links to games in the lounge.

[Excrement_Cranium]

Hmmmmmm.


Make some brand newb a mod, let them ban us all, and start fresh. Enforce the rules to the point that no individuality or expression of opinion ever happens again, and make it more similar to.... meh.... microsoft support forums.

Become the whitewashed corporate destination for P2P information.

Actually, don't.


However, bringing out new independant artists, or allowing them to contribute their music to our respective communities is a huuuuuuge idea. With the flood of people after the shutdown of Winmx, it has been proven that zp gets the traffic. Now do something with it.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

How about the Members link? Like the one that was just up there in the same line with New Posts and all that? I kinda liked that feature.

[Auggie2k]

That's it, I knew something was missing there. I think Jorge changed it for the photo gallery.

[Jorge]

You can still get that information in the quick links section of the nav.

[Potato]

Jorge, what do you think of the suggestions so far?

[A-Team Van]

This is an easy one: Bring back "A-Team Van".

I think that everyone can agree with this assessment. Motorized vehicles have historically been used to reinvigorate forums when they are given new features.

Unfortunately, my chassis is only equipped with a 9600 baud modem, and I can only respond when Hannibal puts-up for a hotel room with a phone jack. You should see the rat infested hovels that he puts the members of this group of elite military exiles into. If you thought that no phone is bad for a hotel, you should see when four middle-aged men are put into one room without a flushing toilet or a shower curtain.

I will not be able to communicate for a while, but keep on rolling.

[catkiller]

A little more respect in general would be good. Too many negative posts here, and too many egos. Although I admit some people make stupid posts everyone was a "noob" once. Theres no need to degrade people for their lack of knowledge on a subject.

[kokanezub]

we should have our own little p2p network called ZeroNet with the user base of zeropaid at 300,000 the network would be awsome

[Jitway]

I like the idea of a arcade and a donate thread for p2p.

[Dark Messenger]

I also like the arcade idea. Guaranteed to stimulate growth and promote user activity only downside might be server strain by the increased demands on it for calls to scripts and mysql queries.

[Malakai1911]

Take two hundred of the best users, delete everyone else, become invite only and give users x amount of invites. Tada, less lamers.

[shawners]

Maybe it doesnt help that the winmx guide is from sept 2002.. Or that we dont have all the p2p programs. We can aquire links to guides already written and equiped with jpg images.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

You can still get that information in the quick links section of the nav.

If this is for me, it's not in my quick links (I checked already.)

We also need to address the problem that half, if not all, of the mods cannot view the names of the people that give them rep. points.

[Potato]

We also need to address the problem that half, if not all, of the mods cannot view the names of the people that give them rep. points.

I honestly don't consider that a problem.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Well, considering you're not a mod, you don't really have that problem, now do you?

I just feel left out (::sniff::)

[Potato]

*hug* for all the mods who feel left out

[A-Team Van]

*hug* for all the mods who feel left out

I would hug you too. Unfortunately I have no hands and only 20 inch wheels. I think I will leave the hugging to the humans and just continue to evade government agents. I don't want to run over mods.

Who would keep people in line? I guess I could if my pathetic dialup connection was increased and Hannibal decided to lay down roots. The A_Team is still running; I cannot moderate, so I cannot hug.

Life is futile without hugging.

[silentscream]

If this is for me, it's not in my quick links (I checked already.)

We also need to address the problem that half, if not all, of the mods cannot view the names of the people that give them rep. points.
ure good guys and all

but maybe if u were having a bad day and someone neg repped u u may ban them or whatever

i think that is the reason

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[The Hunter]

We can check out who gave us rep, its just by a more round about method.

[notbob]

How about the Members link? Like the one that was just up there in the same line with New Posts and all that? I kinda liked that feature.

it disappeared after i did a data analysis on it

according to the actual usernames, there were only 145453 members, and only 9250 that ever posted, 1240 that visited in the last 24 hours (of the day i did it)

i guess that would be embarrassing to have evidence to catch you in a lie so easily available

i always wanted to check the numbers but the tables were so screwy and load times so high it was impossible, that is until they fixed it. and now it's gone

i was # 10 for post count

[Krell]

You know what, I resent that you have the AUDACITY to waltz along here after your inability to properly maintain the site, and suggest that SoulXTC is going to somehow crank out guides that will supercede what our tenured members have already contributed. Will there be spaces between sentences?

Screw you!

You owe these people an apology, right now.

The senior members here that have made 90% of all contributions, and the mods, are the ones that took the initiatives to encourage members to participate by making guides and stickying them.

How did you miss that part? Where were you? HUH?

If our guides need improving, then we can do it, we don't need administration meddling in our business. If you want to improve the site, put your money where your mouth is, and improve bandwidth, redundancy, vBulletin interface etc, and leave the day to day operations squarely with the people who already have a vested interest.

You've got some nerve.



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[silentscream]

You know what, I resent that you have the AUDACITY to waltz along here after your inability to properly maintain the site, and suggest that SoulXTC is going to somehow crank out guides that will supercede what our tenured members have already contributed. Will there be spaces between sentences?

Screw you!

You owe these people an apology, right now.

The senior members here that have made 90% of all contributions, and the mods, are the ones that took the initiatives to encourage members to participate by making guides and stickying them.

How did you miss that part? Where were you? HUH?

If our guides need improving, then we can do it, we don't need administration meddling in our business. If you want to improve the site, put your money where your mouth is, and improve bandwidth, redundancy, vBulletin interface etc, and leave the day to day operations squarely with the people who already have a vested interest.

You've got some nerve.



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remind me never to piss u off :S

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[method]

awww... can't we have a warez tracker... that'd be so much more fun. ;)

[Krell]

Maybe it doesnt help that the winmx guide is from sept 2002.. Or that we dont have all the p2p programs. We can aquire links to guides already written and equiped with jpg images.

And plagiarize someone else work and bandwidth? I don't think so. If this site wants traffic and members it needs to do it OWN work, not steal from Slyck etc. Perhaps if Jorge offered a T-Shirt or something for incentive we would have more participation in that area, instead, you're being replaced.



As for the WinMx guide, it changed when the software did in 2002, otherwise, "never".




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[boogiedan]

ditch the rep points
i have none 0

wotever
im still here either way

[Krell]

You do now!

I unburied you

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[Sparky9]

bring back the W.O.S.

oh wait, it's still there :p http://www.zeropaid.com/busted/

[.:sp00ky:.]

All you have to do is above the main forums in big letters is

"IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION PLEASE USE THE SEARCH BUTTON (NEON ARROW POINTING TO IT) TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION(S) IF YOU CAN'T FIND ANYTHING OR ARE STILL HAVING TROUBLE PLEASE MAKE A NEW THREAD AND HELP WILL BE AT HAND ^__^ "

ok so you could write it in better english than me but you get the idea.



orrrr

"ALL NOOBS WILL BE SHOT ON SITE"

:P

[moneoa]

tips on been a pedophile?

lol?
owell I found it amusing.
on busting them not being one.....jesus.....

[.:sp00ky:.]

Meh I deleated my post, I have a strange sence of humor sorry.

[moneoa]

Meh I deleated my post, I have a strange sence of humor sorry.
no worries guy lol.....you made me blink thats for sure...

[soulxtc]

You know what, I resent that you have the AUDACITY to waltz along here after your inability to properly maintain the site, and suggest that SoulXTC is going to somehow crank out guides that will supercede what our tenured members have already contributed. Will there be spaces between sentences?

Screw you!

You owe these people an apology, right now.

The senior members here that have made 90% of all contributions, and the mods, are the ones that took the initiatives to encourage members to participate by making guides and stickying them.

How did you miss that part? Where were you? HUH?

If our guides need improving, then we can do it, we don't need administration meddling in our business. If you want to improve the site, put your money where your mouth is, and improve bandwidth, redundancy, vBulletin interface etc, and leave the day to day operations squarely with the people who already have a vested interest.




You've got some nerve.



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Krell please take your medication this morning.

[riderx]

Krell please take your medication this morning.
my therapist says hi to you soulxtc

[soulxtc]

my therapist says hi to you soulxtc

Tell her I still need a refill of my ADHD meds, my ritalin and concerta are gettin low............

[Potato]

Maybe when members' posts disappear without their knowledge they should be informed as to why.

If it's blatantly obvious, like someone posts a pic (not like that's even possible right now) of some naked person... the post is either removed and it's mentioned further in the thread, or edited and the reason is listed.

[silentscream]

Maybe when members' posts disappear without their knowledge they should be informed as to why.

If it's blatantly obvious, like someone posts a pic (not like that's even possible right now) of some naked person... the post is either removed and it's mentioned further in the thread, or edited and the reason is listed.
lol at ure sig
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[moneoa]

Consolodate some sections in the forums to one section called Noob support or something.
These threads and sub forums are already there but make it so easy all you do is go to the forum lisiting and they can scroll down to P2P support and enter, choose there platform and then ask away.

I like the lounge posts on the front page but it may confuse some new comers on where to go at first.
If only there were a way to take new lounge posts out of the recent posts window but leave it as an option to turn on in the CP for those of us who like to see them there.

That way only pertinent posts are shown to new comers looking for p2p help.

What discourages new comers is that when they sign up and look at the majority of the posts on the front page they are lounge posts and when they read them they see senior members talking about nothing really related to P2P. It makes it feel like an old boys/girls club and they will more often lurk then ask questions or advice but by making it easy for them to find what they need they will be apt to ask more questions.

By keeping the front page material and posts focus on P2P and tech and all the other stuff you want them to come for, it will encourage more forum and member activity with those things.

Once noobs get their questions answered, if they so wish to stick around and be a part of the longer term community they can choose to do so on their own initative.

to get people to stay and KEEP posting, it is good to reach out and get members involved with common activities.
Community based contests like the one on the blog with psp (it takes time but things like that catch on with an active forum community.)
Activities that take advatage of the wealth of information and personality alot of us have to offer.

Remember, getting new members is only a part of it.

Its also about maintaining those same members and making them want to be a part of the site.
the more people that stick around means more people with experience and information that can be offered when a question is asked.

It fosters and maintains a growing and healthy website and forums.

Just my two cents...(yeah I posted it ealier but thought I would use it to bump the thread :D

[mountain_rage]

tips on been a pedophile?

lol?
owell I found it amusing.

So you want ccs dude back???

[silentscream]

So you want ccs dude back???
i recently took a look back at some of ccs dudes posts (the ones that havent been deleted) and even those are a bit on the odd side

i would have edited some of them if id been a mod back then

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[mfgbypooter]

Great. Just what this site needs, a fucking censor.

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[The Hunter]

Easy, as those that needed to be cleaned up were ( those by ccs), and generally when I have to edit a post the reason is posted. I dont know if tater is talking about me or not.

[Potato]

Easy, as those that needed to be cleaned up were ( those by ccs), and generally when I have to edit a post the reason is posted. I dont know if tater is talking about me or not.
I have no idea either. How would I?

[silentscream]

i dont mean like a censor but if something is unsuitable it cant stay can it ??

i may be wrong

so correct me

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[The Hunter]

Sorry, I made a mistake, I was thinking about an edited post. Im sure I never removed any of your posts, and I think in the future if a post has to be removed, except for known spammers / trolls, that the party should be PMd with the reason, and a post made in the mod forum about it, with the removed post.

[The Hunter]

No if it has improper content it cant stay.

[silentscream]

i agree :)

ppl should know why it was removed (if not the actual content)

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[mfgbypooter]

The forum rules pretty much spell out what's unsuitable.

No
Warez
filenames
spam
flaming
racist/sexist
pornography

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[Potato]

Sorry, I made a mistake, I was thinking about an edited post. Im sure I never removed any of your posts, and I think in the future if a post has to be removed, except for known spammers / trolls, that the party should be PMd with the reason, and a post made in the mod forum about it, with the removed post.
I agree.

Random censorship sucks, especially when I cannot for the life of me think of a good reason why my post has vanished.

[The Hunter]

All us mods try and do an honest fair job, but sometimes, like when the site was going tits up, mistakes could have happened. Example- I go to post and it doesnt show up so I post again. Same thing happens, so post the same thing 3 or 4 more times, and holy shit next thing I know all the posts are there. So I try and remove some of the posts, and so does a mod, next thing they are all gone. For a while I this place was wierd, and I saw no mention from another mod about deleting any of your posts.

[silentscream]

All us mods try and do an honest fair job, but sometimes, like when the site was going tits up, mistakes could have happened. Example- I go to post and it doesnt show up so I post again. Same thing happens, so post the same thing 3 or 4 more times, and holy shit next thing I know all the posts are there. So I try and remove some of the posts, and so does a mod, next thing they are all gone. For a while I this place was wierd, and I saw no mention from another mod about deleting any of your posts.
no ones perfect

but u do a fine job

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[The Hunter]

Im wondering when the post was removed.

[Potato]

All us mods try and do an honest fair job, but sometimes, like when the site was going tits up, mistakes could have happened. Example- I go to post and it doesnt show up so I post again. Same thing happens, so post the same thing 3 or 4 more times, and holy shit next thing I know all the posts are there. So I try and remove some of the posts, and so does a mod, next thing they are all gone. For a while I this place was wierd, and I saw no mention from another mod about deleting any of your posts.
What I'm referring to didn't happen during the madness that was.

Anyways, this is killing Jorge's thread.



edit: I can't find the thread (maybe I'm stupid), so maybe I dreamt of posting here? Who knows. Either way, my stance remains the same!
[glad I didn't point fingers]

[The Hunter]

Well we did make some positive suggestions for improving the site, so its not killing it.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

ure good guys and all

but maybe if u were having a bad day and someone neg repped u u may ban them or whatever

i think that is the reason

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And this is precisely the reason you should not be a mod. What you are assuming is called bias. I do not moderate with that which you speak of. You violate the rules, you get moderated. That may include editing, deleting, temp bans and premanent bans. It's pretty simple. Are you willing to give up that feaure should you ever become a mod? If a mod is doing his job correctly, with tack and respect to the members of the site, he or she should not live in fear of such negative remarks, or unleash hell's fury if they should happen to get a neg. rep. I posted a link to a virus before (as a mod). I didn't know it was one as my AV took care of it. Someone gave me neg rep because of it. Even if I knew the name, I would say they were fair in how they judged me. I learned from my mistake and moved on.

Have a nice day, sir.

it disappeared after i did a data analysis on it

according to the actual usernames, there were only 145453 members, and only 9250 that ever posted, 1240 that visited in the last 24 hours (of the day i did it)

i guess that would be embarrassing to have evidence to catch you in a lie so easily available

i always wanted to check the numbers but the tables were so screwy and load times so high it was impossible, that is until they fixed it. and now it's gone

i was # 10 for post count

I don't know if I should say thanks or thanks. I appreciate the feedback though.

You know what, I resent that you have the AUDACITY to waltz along here after your inability to properly maintain the site, and suggest that SoulXTC is going to somehow crank out guides that will supercede what our tenured members have already contributed. Will there be spaces between sentences?

You are justified sir:

Krell please take your medication this morning.

Will grammatical wonders never cease?

[Potato]

LOTD, not everyone is that level-headed, and I'm not saying there are mods here who would abuse the rep system in knowing who said what... but who knows. It has potential to create bias. The entire reason I didn't give rep to mods is because I thought they could see who did what (before). There wasn't much negative to say, honestly.

I respect you for being a leve-headed mod. :D

[evilmegaman]

I bet I would be more efficient if I knew how to use all the mod tools like the hunter. He seems to know his way around quite well :D

The other thing is that I agree with LOTD with just about everything he said in this thread.

Especially that us poor mods can't see who gave us rep points easily (or at all in my case..) >.<

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

/me breaks out the cardboard signs and cups for me and EMM.

[mfgbypooter]

LOTD, can you see the comments left with rep?

I sign mine.

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[Lord_of_the_Dense]

I see comments and those that leave their names. I do not have the feature that the regular members have.

[moneoa]

I see comments and those that leave their names. I do not have the feature that the regular members have.
So fucked.. ....you'd think it was the other way around

[PBR_Street_Gang]

If the A-Team Van is back, there's no further improvement possible. Well, maybe if Colonel Decker also makes an appearance.....

[mfgbypooter]

Fix and restore the uploaded images in posts.

And updates on the front page of what the fuck's going on with the site would be nice too.

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[The Hunter]

For me the first thing I, and the rest of the mods need, is to actually have a reply to a PM to you Jorge, or Chris. Second, when we need a change made in a mods status, or powers its not a joke, its because we need something done. Many times because of a lack of response, I have been left sitting here by myself. I would have PMd you, but hey. Im not a prick or a grouch, but when our thoughts are not responded to it makes it appear that our thoughts are a waste of our time. Read, reply, discuss. Now can you please give LOD super mod powers, and remove Rickio, and hawkburn? Ive been here doing a tapdance for a long time, and need a bit of help from you. Im here because I have a lot of friends here, and want the site to grow. PS i t has grown hasnt it? Its called honesty in modding, and being fair. Now lets get this place moving.

[mfgbypooter]

If he's not reading your PM's do you really think he'll read your post?

Maybe you should go on strike so they can see how the site fairs without you.

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[Potato]

The mods aren't a union.

[The Hunter]

No we are not tater, but we generally work together pretty dam good, and Im here for you and the rest of the members first and foremost. Im not perfect, but from day one I made a point of responding to PMs, and all questions I could possibly find the answer to.

[RaZor-Blade]

Give away free money to all 320,152 Members! haha
:icon_thum :icon_cycl

[Lehk]

how about we nuke the site and replace it with a giant ftp pub. have a little Java FTP client load when you use a web browser so people without a real FTP client can use something less craptacular than IE or Firefox's built in FTP support.

[Dark Messenger]

Openly being critical of the admins is a good way to lose your status fast around here. I'd be less vocal about expressing such disappreciation in the future if you want such status to last.
And I agree that Hunter has done a bang up job as a mod. I post this because I believe that the best indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour and from what I've seen ur going down a slippery slope my friend and this is my way of throwing u a rope....but if its really such a pain in the ass hey just let it go...only a forum man....not ur life...and it should never replace or substitute it anyway not even as a mean's of escape.
I would go all krell on ppl's arse's if I were in charge here and that would be so wrong. At present this site still enjoys but isn't aware of the precious freedom's its members have an enjoy here above other forums.

Would be a shame to see those freedoms trampled upon by control freaks like me and those who would moderate through fear and intimidation - for shame. Shame on you I say.

I have come to the conclusion the quickest way to achive power around here is to either google or go to all the main filesharing news sites and start posting article's here.

It worked for a certain someone as it did for his previous predecessor who neither shall be named but tis obvious when looking at the news and seeing who posted what.

The former felt his status threatened by the latter and began upping the ante again when seeing his postiton jeopardised by one who came lately (newcomer).

But it was in this promotion that I realised what gets the admin's attention around here. And to promote a newly registered member with less than 30 posts is just wrong imho especially when that new member is an old banned member who used to be mod. but gives a fuck anyway, right? riiiiiiiight.

[Dark Messenger]

Increase the size (character limit) on individual pm's from the paltry 1000 to 20,000 please...even 10,000 would help.

[The Hunter]

Sorry, but when i cant get a reply from someone, after trying to improve the site, i have no option. Truly I wanted the members to know i do my best to get a response to their questions, and mine. Status is not what i ever wanted, in fact I had stated in public that I never wanted to mod. It just happened one night. It was just Seph online, and the place was being hit like hell. Seph signed off, and it got worse. I was sick at what I was seeing here, and told Jorge that if asked i wont refuse. The next morning with a hangover I might add I was a mod. Poor Seph never had an idea. PS he also was a great help to me, just so you know I never wanted his job. Thanks for all the help Sephie.

[The Hunter]

PS DM send me a PM filling me in, as Im totallly lost.

[mountain_rage]

The mods aren't a union.
No but theres an idea unionise the mods

[riderx]

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where the hell is the dam froggie

[The Hunter]

where the hell is the dam froggie

Hes sitting in the corner, going rubbit rubbit.

[Slycktom]

If joo want to make teh world a better place, take a look at urself and mak3 a...change!111111

Anyway, it seems like this particular thread comes around every few months. The question itself is too vauge...my response would be, what are some of the worst problems?

It's probably too late to really change anything wih the forums. People are accustomed to the way they operate, and changing them too much would probably make things worse. Although I would recommend removing mindless posts from the front page and stuffing them in a corner somewhere.

The thing that really sticks out in my head is the lack of leadership....who is in charge of Zeropaid?

[The Hunter]

Union= dues=pay=free, busting our asses kinda sums it up. Again Im not a grouch, I just have experience as a personal manager, and have also a bit of experience dealing with the public. DOH
Also just because i dont respond to a problem does not mean Im fubared. Chris remember the wee problem with a friends pc that was a mess? Wink nudge. Krell knows this one. LOL

[The Hunter]

Getting to be time Tom.

[.:sp00ky:.]

The thing that really sticks out in my head is the lack of leadership....who is in charge of Zeropaid?


cj?


(du de du)

[Slycktom]

cj?

I was going to throw in there something to that effect ;)

[The Hunter]

Tom that sounds about right. Huggs to CJ.

[Slycktom]

Hmm...CJ as a figurehead...she has my vote!

[The Hunter]

She has been for a long time, someone never noticed. Hey what do I know?

[Excrement_Cranium]

Is "who is in charge of zeropaid" a question that needs to be answered for anyone who has read more than four threads here?


No need to name names, no need to point fingers. We all know who the people who get to walk on water around here are. But these aren't the mods, these are people who fortunately enough, despite being clicky pricks, are some of the most honest and direct sources of help you could find.

[Potato]

The union thought came to me after someone suggested striking.

[The Hunter]

If and when I get the size 9 Im still your friend tater. Look i hated to post this in public, but after all this time as a mod I shouldnt have to guess if my requests are being read. I ask nothing nasty no goat porn,actually nothing at all, but respect as a person. Want to improve the site? Pay attention to it, respond to questions,and dammit respect those that are doing the hard work. Check out the mod forum sometime.

[Potato]

Yea I agree with you, it's simple.

I wonder sometimes how much Jorge and Chris pay attention around here. I know they have their own lives as well, but they 'run' this place, they should invest some time into it. I'm not saying they DON'T at all, but I don't think they do often enough.

[The Hunter]

Its left up to us? until theres a problem. Remember janet she couldnt stand the shit either. A big hug hun. Most of the time whoever is online does the work, no replies, zipp.

[Potato]

Honestly I think that if they don't have the time to invest in their own goddamn website, they shouldn't even have it.

[riderx]

Honestly I think that if they don't have the time to invest in their own goddamn website, they shouldn't even have it.
potato should be a new mod
she has good ideas

nuff said

[Potato]

Nah, we just got a new mod!

[The Hunter]

I agree CJ, but i dont hate her that bad. She is way smarter than me and would not take it so long.

[riderx]

I agree CJ, but i dont hate her that bad. She is way smarter than me and would not take it so long.
so how about krell
;)

[Potato]

That'd add some excitement to the place...

[The Hunter]

so how about krell
;)

Same reason. i would never do that to a friend.

[riderx]

Same reason. i would never do that to a friend.
ok lets ban jorge and dubstylee for three days

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

I find it amazing that if it's not a post about the latest release or gossip about some program or such, then it's about his latest news prodigy, SoulXTC.

It seems priorities need to be rearranged.

[mfgbypooter]

Honestly I think that if they don't have the time to invest in their own goddamn website, they shouldn't even have it.Uh oh.

That could bring up the old argument of if it's really "theirs"

*

[Potato]

Yea they could give it the plug.
It'd give us more free time.
Or more time to blow on other sites.
They'd lose all their ad revenue.
Maybe that's why they keep zp around.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

I think Hunter was trying to do that exact thing.

Your explanation?

[Potato]

We're tellin him what's up... do we get feedback on our feedback?

[mfgbypooter]

Who's shittin' on who here?

*

[Excrement_Cranium]

I think it does boil down to a little more involvement.


Even just simply interacting with the community you gave room to grow.

It seems the resentment from the community stems from a simple lack of interaction. It's like having a boss that sits in his office all day, and only pokes his head out to say you are screwing up.


You have a large community, a small contingent of luitenants in the mods, now guys, be generals... lead us to war...

[crackerjacker]

the users of this board have filesharing knowledge and its not just p2p knowledge that is needed here
there is technological issues, humur, etc.

everyone contributes something here
ch33rz

[zarquon]

Why do priorities need to be rearranged? Jorge's first and foremost priority is this site, at least I'd like to think it is, I know he has a lot going on, but nonetheless, his heads in the right place. As for me, not some wunderkind, I'm simply a buddy who knows a lot about this "file-sharing stuff". Not interested in what I have to say? No worries, don't read, continue to do and say your own things. I'm not hear to supercede long time regulars like Hunter, Krell, Yourself, etc., etc., I'm just here to help give the site some focus and help it build some content to make it a more well rounded site. I've been sick as hell for the last 5 days (I think I got it from one of my patients at the hospital), but when I I get well, its on. Im here as a content guy. Moreover, Jorge's asking for feedback, so instead of shittin' all over him, ahem KRELL, tell him what's up.

Maybe you should take your head out of Jorge's ass for some oxygen. You wouldnt be such a suck up if he wasnt paying you. The members are the site not Jorge. Remember that/

[Malicious Intent]

Bit flamey Zarquon, but well said.

[soulxtc]

For me the first thing I, and the rest of the mods need, is to actually have a reply to a PM to you Jorge, or Chris. Second, when we need a change made in a mods status, or powers its not a joke, its because we need something done. Many times because of a lack of response, I have been left sitting here by myself. I would have PMd you, but hey. Im not a prick or a grouch, but when our thoughts are not responded to it makes it appear that our thoughts are a waste of our time. Read, reply, discuss. Now can you please give LOD super mod powers, and remove Rickio, and hawkburn? Ive been here doing a tapdance for a long time, and need a bit of help from you. Im here because I have a lot of friends here, and want the site to grow. PS i t has grown hasnt it? Its called honesty in modding, and being fair. Now lets get this place moving.


good point, i think that there needs to be an active "OMBUDSMAN," someone who can have the delegated powers of real-time control over this little piece of chaos so many call home on occasion.