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Ne007
September 10th, 2005, 01:30 PM
THE music industry will push for more than $1 billion in damages after its landmark court victory over internet music pirates Kazaa. The Sydney-based internet file-sharing company has had $30 million of its assets frozen as record companies try to recoup some of the estimated $3 billion lost in pirated music. "Given the value of the music ripped off was several billion dollars, the damages claim will be substantial," Music Industry Piracy Investigations spokesman Michael Speck said yesterday. "It's about sending a message to illegal operators that they cannot get away with taking other people's work." The Federal Court ruled on Monday that Kazaa software, which allows users to swap music files for free over the web, had illegally infringed artists' copyright on an unprecedented scale. Read the Rest:

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DwarfBaby
September 10th, 2005, 01:46 PM
Yes will if they have 30 million frozen that's probably all they're going to get. I highly doubt Kazaa has $1 billion. But this isn't about the money it's about power and using that power to stay in power. If they loose control they loose everything. Kind of like Saddam Hussein only more evil.

shawners
September 10th, 2005, 01:52 PM
maybe i need to start up my own independent label and get in on some of this action.

Vampmon
September 10th, 2005, 02:05 PM
$1billion, that is a lot of money! they dont have that kind of money even though they install tons of spyware.

moneoa
September 10th, 2005, 02:13 PM
This is just more ass from the RIAA, They will ask and try to say why it should be that much but they won't get it.

It's "to send a strong singal to people making money on the backs of artists"

It also proves they are a bunch of asshats

Signa
September 10th, 2005, 02:21 PM
the RIAA is like a little whining baby screaming PAY ME A BA-JILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE I WANT IT NOW!

assfaces.

Stownplayer
September 10th, 2005, 03:47 PM
Im gonna concentrate my p2p downloading on music more just because of this. I been on movies for the longest so i think it's time the say "fuck you riaa" and download the hell out of all the newest shit.

Ne007
September 10th, 2005, 05:28 PM
Im gonna concentrate my p2p downloading on music more just because of this. I been on movies for the longest so i think it's time the say "fuck you riaa" and download the hell out of all the newest shit.


Make sure you give everyone you know a free copy! and spread the word not to buy anything.

shawners
September 10th, 2005, 08:10 PM
Reminds me of DR EVil on austin Powers.. . .. I WANT 1 billllion dollars. muahhah ahahahah

Lord_of_the_Dense
September 10th, 2005, 08:52 PM
I think we should get our local Pirate God to pay the bill. Being a god and all, shouldn't be a problem...

the great one
September 10th, 2005, 09:19 PM
Im gonna concentrate my p2p downloading on music more just because of this. I been on movies for the longest so i think it's time the say "fuck you riaa" and download the hell out of all the newest shit.

If you downloaded the labels newest shit,you'd only be hurting yourself.

transduction
September 10th, 2005, 10:17 PM
The RIAA just won't give up. They think it is a victory attacking Kazaa but it is the beginning of a very long struggle. A struggle that I believe will go on for many years. For one, I stopped using Kazaa a long time ago due to the amount of spyware that is placed on your computer. Their are tons of filesharing applications out there. In the time it takes them to shut down another Kazaa like company many more will pop up. The RIAA will never be able to fully recoup their losses and I'm afraid the losses are only going to get bigger.

Mels_Smileys45
September 10th, 2005, 10:22 PM
Kind of like Saddam Hussein only more evil.


Good lord! Lets see, killing lots of people vs. an industry trying to make money from entertainment. Oh yes I see now! So evil! How dare they produce products and not give them out for free! I should kill them all!

Make sure you give everyone you know a free copy! and spread the word not to buy anything.

If we all stop buying soon there will be no new products to download! What A great idea!

bobhss
September 10th, 2005, 11:58 PM
If you downloaded the labels newest shit,you'd only be hurting yourself.

If we all stop buying soon there will be no new products to download! What A great idea!

With the crap they put out why do we need new products?

Pirate_RRRRRR_IIIIII
September 11th, 2005, 12:12 AM
I think we should get our local Pirate God to pay the bill. Being a god and all, shouldn't be a problem...

Sadly my Godly pirate powers only allow me to download massive amounts of porn, music, video games and movies. Being a pirate God just doesnt pay the bills these days. -tear-

method
September 11th, 2005, 03:32 AM
What's up... aren't these pricks making enough money by sitting on their asses, taking advantage of artists and shitting on the consumer?

I guess these pricks know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

teto
September 11th, 2005, 10:44 AM
Anyone want to pursue Michael Speck down alleyways, beat him up, and then rifle through his pockets for loose change? You know, an eye for an eye because that's what he's doing to KaZaA?

Digital Bliss
September 11th, 2005, 11:59 AM
I say we should sucide bomb hollywood and show them whats up.....

Krell
September 11th, 2005, 12:01 PM
OK . . ITS TIME FOR YOU TO LEAVE THE HOUSE

Go get some coffee, take a walk

Breath fresh air


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inoesomestuff
September 11th, 2005, 07:06 PM
and they will spend all that money developing and marketing the next copyright protection scheme/DRM only to watch it get cracked within a month then probably use the remainder of the money bribing server operators to turn over logs and sueing more people

Ne007
September 11th, 2005, 07:26 PM
What's up... aren't these pricks making enough money by sitting on their asses, taking advantage of artists and shitting on the consumer?

I guess these pricks know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

Yeh..but you know its losing the ability to take advantage of artists and losing the ability to shit on the consumer that they fear the MOST!

Thats what this is about.....fear of losing CONTROL!

phalkon30
September 11th, 2005, 07:32 PM
I don't understand how they can convince a court that kazaa is the sole source of their lost revenue. Not to mention how they can figure out how much they would have made if it had not been for file sharing. Does that include pirating by copying cds? That is serious bullshit (but probably not a surprise to anybody).

teto
September 12th, 2005, 02:14 AM
OK . . ITS TIME FOR YOU TO LEAVE THE HOUSE

Go get some coffee, take a walk

Breath fresh air
Yeah, yeah I know. I should remember it's time to take a break when I start making obscure references to metalinguistic quotes (http://www.linguistlist.org/issues/13/13-499.html)

Krell
September 12th, 2005, 02:36 AM
I know I should quote

I say we should sucide bomb hollywood and show them whats up.....

but when i post immediately after a suicide bomb fantasy, I think it's obvious whom I refer to.

I liked ur Speck idea . . . kick him in the nuts. I think we should put him in a UFC ring with a no rules no rounds all out spatterfest.



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mountain_rage
September 12th, 2005, 04:25 PM
Good lord! Lets see, killing lots of people vs. an industry trying to make money from entertainment. Oh yes I see now! So evil! How dare they produce products and not give them out for free! I should kill them all!



If we all stop buying soon there will be no new products to download! What A great idea!


There was music before all these big corporations existed. Maybe you wont get the highly edited and polished music from well crafted bands. But you will still get music from those that play just because they enjoy it. The artist also profit from clothes and parafanalia, advertising music, movies, etc...

transduction
September 19th, 2005, 11:13 PM
You know Kazaa is run by a bunch of morons. First off I would have never allowed anyone to freeze 30 million dollars that belonged to me. Anyone who has a basic knowledge of owning a corporation knows that the only money the MPAA and RIAA can get is whatever sits in the corporation itself. If one studies a corporation one knows that if a corp gets sued, only the money from the corp itself is at risk, not the money of the ceo.

Notice the article clearly says that 30 million dollars of "Kazaa's assets" were frozen. It didn't say anything about the amount of wealth owned by the owners of Kazaa themselves. Why did they leave so much money sitting in their corporate account? I would have only left 100,000.00 in my corporate account and transferred the rest into my own private investments. Then the only thing the MPAA or RIAA could get would be the $100,000.00

Remember people, a corporation is an entity one and of itself. If can do everything a human can do other than make its own decisions.

transduction

Excrement_Cranium
September 20th, 2005, 12:45 AM
That's pretty much it. However, if a "corperation" is held by.... meh... 2 people... that scatters the "limited liability" idea. Limited liability is usually extended to corperations with stock holders, etc,. etc. If 5000 people "own" a company, the boardmembers can then only be charged with mismanagement, or extortion.

Krell
September 20th, 2005, 05:00 AM
transduction - stop posting in these threads like your on a first name basis with anyone, because your not.

You don't know the differnce in a Ltd partnership, or an LLC, etc, so STFU already.

That subtle inference about a guy on Nikki Herring porch, in the other article you drooled in, youre not bright enough to even catch the inference.

I just read all of your posts today, and they all wreak of retard, now go STFU somewhere else already.

Asshat


and stop signing your fucking posts, we already know who you are





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shawners
September 20th, 2005, 07:49 AM
no ones forcing these dumb artist to sign up to these labels.. they get their money, trust me. They sell out like that on merchandising and later wise up and start their own recording label and then take advantage of those bands. its an endless cycle.

silentscream
September 20th, 2005, 08:00 AM
transduction - stop posting in these threads like your on a first name basis with anyone, because your not.

You don't know the differnce in a Ltd partnership, or an LLC, etc, so STFU already.

That subtle inference about a guy on Nikki Herring porch, in the other article you drooled in, youre not bright enough to even catch the inference.

I just read all of your posts today, and they all wreak of retard, now go STFU somewhere else already.

Asshat


and stop signing your fucking posts, we already know who you are





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asshat

cracks me up ever since i read that history of the internet site yonks ago

interesting sidenote (pretty relavant) there are some major (not good, just mainstream) uk bands that have started selling their music direct on their websites as unprotected mp3s and ogg (a la valve with halflife 2) so they get all the profits.

hopefully it will take off.

Krell
September 20th, 2005, 08:07 AM
It costs money to make money

It costs to record, produce, market, distribute, promote, tour and on and on and on

It does NOT mean that you will roll in the dough, by cranking out shit that I wouldnt look at in my toilet bowl.

Just because you are too gd lazy to get a job, and think youre gonna be a big time rapper, or pop star, doesnt mean I OWE you one MF thing!

Record companies are in the market to make tons of money, thats all they do.

That does not mean I will support them on any level. I will not pay $18 for some shitty CD whining about how bad love is, how horny you are, or how bad you want to pop a cap in my ass. So fuck you AND your bling bling.



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silentscream
September 20th, 2005, 08:15 AM
krell can i hire u if i need to give someone a really good verbal bitch slap :)

i think u could reduce someone to tears lol

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Lord_of_the_Dense
September 20th, 2005, 04:42 PM
Krell can deal the goods...

Krell
September 20th, 2005, 04:54 PM
Ahahah now THATS funny! Looks like my ex


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shawners
September 20th, 2005, 05:50 PM
I uploaded that image way back on zp.. I had it off mirc and saved it to a FLOPPY disc, and then later uploaded it here.. where did you get it at? I had never saw it on the net since then.

Lord_of_the_Dense
September 20th, 2005, 07:10 PM
I got it a couple years back when I surfed at work instead or working at work.

I think it needs to be reinstated as a management tool here.

transduction
September 27th, 2005, 10:08 PM
Hey Krell I don't care about being on a first name basis with anyone in this forum. Why don't you shut your stupid mouth? I post what I want to post, and I could give a crap about your 19,000 posts. First off I never said anything about an LLC you stupid moron. I said corporation. I know that you are jealous of me becaue I'm clearly more intelligent than you are. Stop acting like a five year old.

You come in here running your mouth like you're king of the world. You're nothing but a piece of trash. Why don't you go to another forum?

transduction - Hey look I put my name again. What are you going to do about it Krell? I bet you don't even know what the word transduction means. And don't bother trying to respond to this post with the definition of it. We all know you had to look it up in the dictionary.

zpman
September 27th, 2005, 11:22 PM
Wow (http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2005-09-24_121471590039538/tv/simpsons/wiggum/compelling_story.wav) that's a cool story.

Krell
September 27th, 2005, 11:54 PM
Hey Krell I don't care about being on a first name basis with anyone in this forum. Why don't you shut your stupid mouth? I post what I want to post, and I could give a crap about your 19,000 posts. First off I never said anything about an LLC you stupid moron. I said corporation. I know that you are jealous of me becaue I'm clearly more intelligent than you are. Stop acting like a five year old.

You come in here running your mouth like you're king of the world. You're nothing but a piece of trash. Why don't you go to another forum?

transduction - Hey look I put my name again. What are you going to do about it Krell? I bet you don't even know what the word transduction means. And don't bother trying to respond to this post with the definition of it. We all know you had to look it up in the dictionary.


Is that the best you can do? You'd better get a clue around here, newbie.




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zpman
September 28th, 2005, 02:21 AM
Transduction, calling people names in here is not a good way to debate your argument. (http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2005-09-24_121471590039538/tv/simpsons/moe/stupid_moron.wav)

Krell
September 28th, 2005, 02:47 AM
Transduction, calling people names in here is not a good way to debate your argument. (http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2005-09-24_121471590039538/tv/simpsons/moe/stupid_moron.wav)


LOL the links gets redirected by the properties tell me what it is, good one!

Let him go, if he wants to bury himself, it's his choice, I can kick ankle biters all day long.

If his style is one of "remember people, I told you how it is" then by all means, let him step UP to the mic!

He's supposed to be slipping in to something a little more comfortable about now in the Film studios unite to beat piracy (http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=31984) thread.


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