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onecoolsam
September 9th, 2005, 01:52 AM
Hi everyone, I'm about to head off to college and they have warned about strict punishment for downloading music, movies, apps. blah blah blah. basically a bunch of b.s. but I'm just trying to find the best way to keep downloading on the incredible t3 with out getting caught, I mostly use limewire and bittorrent, and I'm running os x, I'm compotent on the computer but I've never had to worry about anything like this before so your help is greatly appreciated thanks. Sam

thepuzzler
September 9th, 2005, 02:27 AM
Use someone else's login details.

fuckDRM
October 30th, 2005, 10:06 PM
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=383975&postcount=21

In general, know your shit and you're unstoppable. You give me a internet connection anywhere in the world and i'll find a way to download metallica all the while with the network admin thinking I'm downloading a pdf of the king james bible and religious artwork. (LSB - least significant bit - Stenography) Hehehe

muskrat_love
October 30th, 2005, 10:41 PM
Dont worry about it. It will probably all be blocked anyways.

Revliskciuq
November 1st, 2005, 03:42 PM
In general, know your shit and you're unstoppable.

That isn't necessarily true, there are very intelligent people who get caught, and very unintellgient people who never get caught; of course there are may factors at play, but nothing is ever 100% unstopable, but some things are close.

Colleges (particularly in the United States) can be fairly anal about P2P filesharing, and in all fairness, they should be. The last thing they want is 90% of their bandwidth being used up because half of the freshman class is downloading the new Diddy album from Ares. Furthermore, the university is like any ISP, they get hounded by the RIAA/MPAA when one of their end-users (the students) gets discovered - they don't need this or want it, so naturally they have strict policty to help prevent it.

Here are a few things I would advise:

1. Use Pear Guardian 24/7. There is no excuse to not have this running when you are doing any (I won't be specific here) kind of activity that you feel shouldn't be monitered. Maybe you can meet up with some upperclass nerds who can give you school specific IP's you should add to your block list.

2. Exercise modisty. Don't get greedy, don't download new releases from popular public sources as soon as they become available, and don't overdo it. Of course it only takes one time to get nailed, but you exponentially increase that risk by increasing your download (share) volume.

3. Avoid P2P altogether. Sources like Usenet, IRC, and Darknets dramatically reduce your risk provided you set them up and use them properly. The more obscure and "nerdy" your source, the less likely it is to be a major target for the RIAA/MPAA. If you remember when Bit-Torrent first came around, everyone felt very comfortable using it, now it's enemy #1.

4. Finally (and I know this is cliche), if you are THAT worried about it, then look at the opportunity/cost. Maybe you should just buy your music/software retail.

zarquon
November 1st, 2005, 03:57 PM
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=383975&postcount=21

In general, know your shit and you're unstoppable. You give me a internet connection anywhere in the world and i'll find a way to download metallica all the while with the network admin thinking I'm downloading a pdf of the king james bible and religious artwork. (LSB - least significant bit - Stenography) Hehehe
You're full of b.s. From reading your previous posts it is quite obvious that you are not quite of this ability. Quit flashing your light-sabre, you have much to learn yet, padawan.

tackdaddy
November 1st, 2005, 04:12 PM
then please fuckDRM enlighten us with your leet downloading without getting caught skills.

Pathtek24
November 1st, 2005, 04:13 PM
4. Finally (and I know this is cliche), if you are THAT worried about it, then look at the opportunity/cost. Maybe you should just buy your music/software retail.

Very nicely said...Thats probably the BEST way to look at this situation..:icon_comp

teto
November 19th, 2006, 07:05 PM
then please fuckDRM enlighten us with your leet downloading without getting caught skills.

Dude. It's not that out of this world what he's saying. You do something like this:


#!python

import random
kjv=open("King James Bible v2.4.pdf","rb")
real=open("metallica ripped album.zip","rb")
first = kjv.read(random.randrange(10,20)*1024)
kjv.close()

dest=open("This is really the King James Bible.pdf","wb")
dest.write(first)
while 1:
some = real.read(1024)
if len(some)==0: break
dest.write(some)

real.close()
dest.close()

And then you share "This is really the King James Bible.pdf" as if you were the virgin Mary herself. People do that to fool others into sharing their files just by titling them as porn.

kinbryj
December 15th, 2006, 08:00 PM
I just got out of collage, you will find any thing you need on inturnal LAN (share folders)

kinbryj
December 15th, 2006, 08:04 PM
and all sites like p2p will be blocked by proxy server and trying to hack through you will get the boot

OSX4
January 4th, 2007, 08:49 AM
I just did a 4 year stint at Uni and it is not that difficult to do at all.

Firstly the script is a nice idea but very unlikely to work as running a script on a user restricted profile with security polices will flag that up quicker that trying to install a common app. Plus you need a higher level of expertise to make adjustments to it.

two ways i found:

Use a HTTP tunneller program and then change the ports in the app to 80 to use the same as interent. It will then look like webtraffic (not FTP traffic)

Use a proxy server. Most filesharing programs offer the option of using a proxy. Do a simple search for public proxy servers and you will find a load. Some work some do not, but test and see what happens.

The hardest part of this is installing the actual software. You can get round this by using either a flash drive or an external HDD like the icy box. You can take out your home hard drive, put in the IcyBox unit and boot from the drive using usb, or run programs from it as if it was a slave drive.

We ran limewire all the time there. But unless your downloading big game files or movies then taking this risk to get a song maybe a few more second faster than your home connection, in my view is not worth the risk.

teto
January 6th, 2007, 12:37 AM
Firstly the script is a nice idea but very unlikely to work as running a script on a user restricted profile with security polices will flag that up quicker that trying to install a common app. Plus you need a higher level of expertise to make adjustments to it.If the university forces me to not run python on my own computer, for fear that I will rename my files, then I'm leaving that shithole. As for expertise, what part about "going to a 4 year university" is lacking in expertise? You think a person with a 4 year degree is going to need simple point-and-click? If so, they probably shouldn't have that 4 year degree.


Use a HTTP tunneller program and then change the ports in the app to 80 to use the same as interent. It will then look like webtraffic (not FTP traffic)Tunnelled to where though? If I tunnel to my home computer, then I might as well just share stuff on my home computer because the university won't have any effect at all, besides possibly putting me in danger of information police.

Use a proxy server. Most filesharing programs offer the option of using a proxy. Do a simple search for public proxy servers and you will find a load. Some work some do not, but test and see what happens.You know, I've heard this several times, and I've even tried it myself. There are a few limitations though, I've noticed. Proxy servers are dead slow, because they're something like a virus mooching off of some sap's flaky dialup connection. My comment above about sharing from home being just as good applies. Proxy servers never work. It's amazingly rare to find a server that works. Seriously, I once made a script that tested hundreds, not a one successfully proxied my HTTP request. Many sites block public proxies additionally.

As for software that proxies, try Tor. That's about the best you're going to get, which isn't very good. A USB stick is a good idea too.

EDIT: gah, wrong channel!

teto
January 6th, 2007, 12:47 AM
Very nicely said...Thats probably the BEST way to look at this situation..:icon_compCareful, it's also one of the worst ways to look at this situation. Think about it. You start sharing music, you stop buying records. The record companies react by sending you threatening letters, taking you to court, persecuting you and perverting the law. You don't punish them, in fact you capitulate and go back to buying records. What message does that send to the record companies? It tells them they can get away with extortion like that, and come out ahead.

OSX4
January 9th, 2007, 10:01 AM
Teto i think you misunderstood what i was saying before.

At uni you can run more on your own personal computer, but i mean the Universities computers, just like in a networked office enviroment. Try running script on a office computer and see if it goes unnoticed. And the level of expertise i was refering to was for others to modify the code, i didnt mean your own. Also if you have already been at uni for 4 years then your likely to have the experience, but the original poster indicated he was starting. In general if your not a programmer or had much experience then you will need a higher level of expertise to modify the scripts, if you can do this already then good on you. I neither have this level nor profese to have this level, which is why i can recognise the fact that a "higher" level is needed.

In respect to the HTTP tunnel, you tunnel to the server or to the IP address of the host using both the p2p app and the tunneller for the actual connection. True you can just tunnell, vnc, logmein to your home computer but as you said there is little point.

Im still sure the proxies are the way to go (no offence to you). I just sat here and tested 10 proxies from a very public list and 7 out of 10 returned web pages, now this was from within a large corporate network. I can run off a list of at least 10 fully working ones i use. But lol, proxies and viruses?? Proxies have nothing to do with that whatsoever. A proxy if simply another computer with your usual security software, a host lookup table, policies and DHCP and DNS (unless used seperately). In effect it is simply a large, log ridden firewall which is much much more configurable than your comsumer ones. This was when a request goes through a proxy it is the proxies IP address that is sent to the host machine and the host returns it to the same IP address and the lookuptable and routing table then send the data back to you through your own IP address. If you already knew this then apologies for reiteration.

Proxies, when used correctly can be a great thing. But a side note.....very rarely is a proxy that hides your IP truely invisible. Your IP usually is still displayed if you know where to look, and at the very least is held in the proxy logs. I still suggest for this guys purpose the proxy is bar far the easiest. Just run from a flash drive.

Toco
January 18th, 2007, 04:05 PM
At my college we have our own dc++ hub that you can't access from outside the school network so no one needs to use bit torrent or anything like that and for new releases a couple people have newsgroup accounts.

How can you get caught if the RIAA has to go through the school's firewall to see you?

Andrew110
January 18th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Here's a plan, go to college, study, have fun and get an education! Don't worry about downloading shit.

levelquo
June 6th, 2007, 02:20 AM
no fucking such thing as being anoymous
wanna be anonymous yeah i spelt it wrong or something so what
ok back to the issue
go home and masturbate alone
u will be anoymous and shit

GrAfFiT
July 5th, 2007, 07:23 PM
Maybe lease a dedicated box as a private VPN gateway ?