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notbob
October 4th, 2002, 07:15 PM
back in the old napster days i remember getting songs encoded with the real jukebox that were unburnable--does anyone else remember this? if so, why did this original attempt at DRM end? you could listen to the song, but not burn it--anybody have any idea what i'm talking about?

method
October 7th, 2002, 07:25 AM
i'm guessing if u could play it in WinAmp.. you could dump it as a WAV and re-encode it.. if not.. well.. it'd only be a matter of time before a ripper of some sort came out. ;)

That's my guess!!

Jared592
November 3rd, 2002, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by method
i'm guessing if u could play it in WinAmp.. you could dump it as a WAV and re-encode it.. if not.. well.. it'd only be a matter of time before a ripper of some sort came out. ;)

That's my guess!!
Yeah, that's what's funny about these ideas for encrypted, uncopieable CDs. As long as you can play it, it can be copied! Funny how they don't see that!

CCSDUDE
November 5th, 2002, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Jared592

Yeah, that's what's funny about these ideas for encrypted, uncopieable CDs. As long as you can play it, it can be copied! Funny how they don't see that!

Exactly.....

Has anyone heard of the new digtial film system? DPS MAY be coming out sooner or later.....and that's when the day's of "cam" and "screener" shit will be over.

If they ever do get this shit in place....it'll be the end for them. Because if it can be viewed it can be stolen....I've seen one of the systems first hand and I know for a fact it wouldn't be all that hard to steal the data....you could be sharing a DVD quality or better copy of the movie within the first few days of release if you had access to the DPS (in house).









Kodak to launch digital movie projection

LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - Eastman Kodak Co. Monday said it will unveil a digital movie projection system at the ShoWest movie theater convention this week here, marking the photo giant's formal entry in the emerging market for digital cinema.

Rochester, New York-based Kodak, a leading maker of film and photographic equipment, has been testing digital movie projection equipment for a couple of years, but has only demonstrated prototypes to small groups.

For moviegoers, the new format promises better-quality pictures on-screen by eliminating film scratches, and Hollywood studios will be able to slash tens of millions of dollars in distribution costs by no longer shipping movies in heavy, bulky metal canisters.

Digital cinema is the projection of movies on theater screens, using digital copies of films instead of the traditional strips of film. The digital movies can be stored in a computer hard drive or on a disk, like a DVD.

With the launch of the Kodak Digital System at ShoWest, the company hopes to become a leading player in what has to date been a slowly developing arena. ShoWest is a trade show where vendors hawk everything from projection systems to popcorn to theater owners.

``We are poised to take a leadership role in this emerging market,'' said Robert Mayson, general manager of Cinema Operations for Kodak's entertainment imaging division.

Since the film industry's inception, Kodak has been one of the primary suppliers of raw film stock. Digital cinema represents a threat to the film business.

Kodak Digital Cinema will include a services unit to offer components, installation, training and support. Kodak said it hopes to ease the fears of theater owners over technological advances that make their equipment obsolete.

CUTTING DISTRIBUTION COSTS

The Kodak Digital Cinema System includes a high-quality projector and operating system to show digital movies distributed via DVD, satellite, or a fiber-optic network.

For studios and other content suppliers and distributors, Kodak plans to fashion agreements to include all aspects of digital print delivery to theaters .

``The goal of Kodak Digital Cinema Services,'' said Mayson, ''is to combine Kodak's heritage in image science and our reputation for service with continuing developments in information technology, bringing digital cinema to our customers in the ways they expect of Kodak.''

So far, most prototypes would either allow the studios to send digital copies of movies to theaters through satellite uplinks and downloads, or by shipping the movies on DVDs. Both ways are significantly less expensive than shipping thousands of film copies around the world in the large metal canisters .

The technology has been available, but the rollout of digital cinema was slow because nobody was willing to foot the entire bill for the systems at a cost of roughly $150,000 per screen.




Now with all that said....I know for sure no movie house is willing to drop 150K per screen on this system. So who will pay for it?! Plus most places....are scab bastards they'll keep a print without paying rental till it's useless to the film distro. then send it back or just keep it without paying a dime. With the DPS they can set it to lock and not run at certain times/dates if they so choose....theaters DON'T like that....

Now I'll ask you, which do you prefer, tape's or CD's? I prefer tapes because they sound better, they have that "analog" sound to them.....not so cold and clean. The difference is about the same between DPS and normal film....so which do you think is better? 24fps of 'photos' or bits of data being shot through a tiny mirror onto a screen? I'd go with film.....it's warmer. Arc' projected film looks even better then Xeon.....so what your watching today doesn't look the same with the tones and tint's as it did "back in the day".


Peace all, Later