Burning movie questions

[krum]

I've downloaded two movies using newsgroups. Once they were done downloading I ran the .par2 files, and they said the download was complete. When I run the movies on my computer, they run just fine. But once I burn them to a DVD and put them in a DVD player the screen does a sliding motion down. So a frame will slide off the screen going down, and a new one will takes its place and so on. It is the movie playing, but its doing a wierd slide motion and I have no clue why.

I used nero OEM, version: 6.3.1.23 which is BRAND new that came with my DVD burner (BENQ). I used the "Burn DVD-Video files" option from nero. I put the following files listed below in the "VIDEO_TS" folder on the DVD.

VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_0.VOB
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_01_5.VOB

I also tried just burning them as a data disk, and it does the same exact thing with the sliding motion. I know the files are fine because the .par2 said they were and they run fine on my computer. This happened to two different movies posted by different people. Any help would be great!

Thanks,
KrUm

[mfgbypooter]

What format are the movies, NTSC or PAL, and does your stand alone DVD player play both?

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[Krell]

I want to know what you are trying to view these moves with?
WMP?

Try viewing them with other DVD playing software, including Nero, VLC, WMP Classis, Cyberlink Power DVD etc


report back


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[zarquon]

I want to know what you are trying to view these moves with?
WMP?

Try viewing them with other DVD playing software, including Nero, VLC, WMP Classis, Cyberlink Power DVD etc


report back


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Exactly use any of the aforementioned players. If the vob files play o.k. then they should play on dvd player if burnt correctly.

[krum]

With my computer I am viewing them with WinCinema Manager (InterVideo Inc.).

"What format are the movies, NTSC or PAL, and does your stand alone DVD player play both?"

Not sure if that matters, they have been conferted to .VOB... and if it does, I am not sure which it was. I tried it on two DVD players, one is a new DVD burner (for the TV). So I am pretty sure its not the DVD players.

"Try viewing them with other DVD playing software, including Nero, VLC, WMP Classis, Cyberlink Power DVD etc"

Well like I said, on my computer the movie views perfectly fine. Its when they are burned on a DVD the DVD player doesn't play it right.

[Krell]

Well like I said, on my computer the movie views perfectly fine. Its when they are burned on a DVD the DVD player doesn't play it right.


O...k..... then, start there. What media are you using? DVD+R, or the DVD-R? DVD-RW?

Your home player, whats the model#, are you certain you can view the DVD you burned on it? Supported? I am leaning toward incompatability.

Try burning it again, on a known good media that your DVD home player supports, and this time use the Nero Express > and add under the "VIDEO_TS" folder.



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[mfgbypooter]

Your home player, whats the model#, are you certain you can view the DVD you burned on it? Supported? I am leaning toward incompatability.

.That is where I was leaning. I used to have a player that wouldn't play PAL only NTSC format. If it's not his media and he doesn't know, I would open the .ifo with .ifoedit and find out what format it is.

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[Krell]

That is where I was leaning. I used to have a player that wouldn't play PAL only NTSC format. If it's not his media and he doesn't know, I would open the .ifo with .ifoedit and find out what format it is.

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I agree, but since im not 100% positive that his symptom is one that PAL would exibit, im just trying to eliminate all the possibilities one at a time. Now he has what he needs to verify this, maybe he will find the answer.

Great answer btw!

thx


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[mfgbypooter]

Well I'm not sure either but I went barking up that tree as it would be easy to eliminate or confirm it as the source of the problem without burning a bunch of coasters. And I do know that Pal and NTSC are different resolutions and frame rates, so if his DVD players don't render both of them properly then something will be fucked up. My old player would play a PAL dvd but it was basically unwatchable. And I've seen the .ifo's of PAL movies edited to play as NTSC but they sure wouldn't play right on my player either. The only real way to convert PAL to NTSC is to re-encode which is not easy to do properly without the right software.

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[Krell]

Well I'm not sure either but I went barking up that tree as it would be easy to eliminate or confirm it as the source of the problem without burning a bunch of coasters


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[Digital Bliss]

www.vcdhelp.us look at the tutorial on dvdsrhink. When using it there is an option to select a folder make a folder and put those corosponding files in it after doing that select the from folder option once you do that it should be self explanitory id go into futher detail but im tired ill most likely edit this post in the morning

[krum]

"Try burning it again, on a known good media that your DVD home player supports"

How to I convert it to another media? Not really sure how to even check to see what kind it is in the first place, lol.

[shawners]

Tell us the what format the movie is, if its pal or NTSC. Download bitrate viewer and load up one of the VOB files and it will say pal or ntsc.. Some dvd players or tv wont play either or depending on the region your at and the format of the DVD. Use DVD santa to burn the files as well and use a slower speed like 2.4x and see if that works properly.

[DigitalJunkie]

First, go to http://www.ifoedit.com/ to download IfoEdit utility, look into IFO file to see the movie is in PAL or NTSC format. If your movie is in PAL format, but your DVD Player only support NTSC format then you'll need to convert the movie to NTSC format! (Note: There are DVD Players & TVs that can display both PAL & NTSC formats, check first!)

To convert between formats, personally I use TMPGEnc Studio's TMPGEnc DVD Author. TMPGEnc is not free, but it has one of best MPEG/MPG tools available!

[mfgbypooter]

If you are really interested in PAL to NTSC conversion I have a complete installer kit for it.

BeSweet, DVD2AVI, Bitrate Viewer, Softencode, BatchCCEWS, AVISynth, Soundforge, CCE, Adobe Audition, TMPGnc DVD Author and AC3 sound plugin, with the guides to get it done right.

If interested just PM me.

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[Krell]

known good media that your DVD home player supports


I MEAN DVD+R or DVD-R DISC . . . THAT is what media is.

Get the model of your home dvd player and look at the manual . . its not complicated a lot of crappy cheap ones are too finicky and will not play DVD+R for example.


VCR/DVD Recorder Combo, EWR20V4 Features:


VCR/DVD recorder for DVD-R/RW recording and playback
1-touch, 2-way dubbing
Hi-Fi VHS recording and playback
Plays DVD-ROM, CD-R/RW and MP3 formats
Up to 10 hours recording time
Easy on-screen user menu
Component video output; S-video input and outputs
Audio/video input and outputs
Digital audio output
Dolby Digital Surround Sound
Parental lock



And if your DVD is PAL, personally I wouldnt bother trying to re encode it, just delete it and find another and stop dl PAL copies.



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[mfgbypooter]

And if your DVD is PAL, personally I wouldnt bother trying to re encode it, just delete it and find another and stop dl PAL copies.Right. It takes far less time to download a DVD then it does to re encode one. And any re encoding fucks with quality.

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[mcovey]

buy the damned movie. obviously this is too hard for you. amazon has great used stuff.

[krum]

The movie I have is in PAL format. Some questions:

1) Which is better, PAL or NTSC? Or does it even matter?
2) Does converting them to one to the other effect the quality of the movie?

My DVD player is this:
http://www.aspiredigital.com/newwebsite/product_site/dvd/ad_1100cdg_dvd.htm

Which is PAL/NTSC compatible. So the movie should be working...

"obviously this is too hard for you"

How is it to hard for me? How else will I learn if I don't ask questions? I am more then willing to learn, and its very easy for me to learn this stuff. But I need someone to lead me in the right direction and to teach me.

[mfgbypooter]

Quick question krum. Are you in the U.S. or Europe? The U.S. uses NTSC standard and your player may not be liking that PAL movie too much. Converting them is not an easy task and is time consuming, and anytime you convert a movie you risk quality issues.

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[krum]

I live in the US. I guess I'll find NSTC movies for now on. Didn't really know the difference till now. But it doesn't make any since that it isn't playing correctly.

[mfgbypooter]

Just a little info... a ntsc/pal compatable player simply means you can use them on comparable tv's.

They make dvd players that actually convert pal/ntsc dvds to the proper tv format for you.

There is a third format the french use called SECAM. You won't run into that much but it is out there.

Best to stick with NTSC.

If you want to download a .rar file dvd and it doesn't have an .nfo that tells you the format, just download a couple of the .rars and then you can extract with winrar and use .ifoedit to find out, or, if it is an .img or .iso file mount it with daemon tools and then open with .ifoedit and check. That way you don't have to download the whole thing only to find out it is the wrong format.

HTH.

[krum]

I am still wondering why I was having that problem when other people were getting it to work fine. I even had my mom try burning it with her DVD burner and she also uses different software then I do. But it did the same exact thing! I also tried playing the movies on two different TVs/DVD players, same results. I don't understand.

[DigitalJunkie]

Even though, your DVD Player can play both formats but your TV may not be able to display both PAL & NTSC formats! Some TVs can, but not all. Check your TV too!

As to quality after converting format. It is Time Consuming, but these days with progressive scan & up- sampling features the DVD Player have. The loss of quality is not as bad as suggested by others. So, if that movie has a lot of sources with different copies. You should take Krell advice & get another copy!