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mp3master1215
August 21st, 2005, 05:40 PM
I was talking to the game store clerk and. I asked him what the price of ps3 and xbox360 w would be he said ps3 will be $700 do to it uses bluetooth. He said the xbox360 will cost $400. i said why so much difference. He said well xbox is going to use wifi which is better for gaming. bluetooth is better for communication. I told him well i guess ps3 will go down the drain. He said looks like it its the third generation of ps3 so it has a chance it will fail. he said heres and example sega dreamcast. Its the thrid generation curse he said and xbox is cheaper.
id rather go with the xbox360 wif you want more for gaming. I said oh ok well g2g bye.
Auggie2k
August 21st, 2005, 05:50 PM
Absolute bollocks. Does anybody think that people are going to buy the xbox360 instead of the ps3 because of the price? It's not a "whichevers cheaper" situation. Myself, I am going to buy the ps3 no matter what and I'd never buy an xbox because I didn't have enough money... no, I'd work my ass off and pay for it. Plus, this competition is interesting because the xbox is coming out much much earlier the the ps3, it's interesting to see what happens over the sales period. The competition reminds me of the FF-IE "war" if you will. It's one or the other, never both (in most cases, I know some rich f***ers will have like two of both)
mp3master1215
August 21st, 2005, 05:53 PM
i can get a whole new lap top for 700 fuck that ps3 is a rip off
Auggie2k
August 21st, 2005, 05:55 PM
They say $700 now but you just know the price is going to fluctuate!
shawners
August 21st, 2005, 06:36 PM
The price is gonna be high, but sony will quickly drop the price for a number of reasons.
Competeing against the xbox that are being sold.
Not losing customers to high price as well as game developers for ps3 not selling as much.. Less gameing systems outthere, less game developers are gonna make for it.
Third party support, royalties, and of course marketing.
ccc1005
August 21st, 2005, 06:36 PM
i can get a whole new lap top for 700 fuck that ps3 is a rip off
Uhh, lets see you get a laptop with the perfomance of a Xbox360 or PS3 for anywhere near $700, let alone a few thousand...
moneoa
August 21st, 2005, 06:45 PM
700 would make it all but impossible for anyone to get it even if they worked their ass off.
They are not going to alienate the consumer market they feed off of.
I think the gaming clerk was full of shit and trying to wow you
ducttapeBigSexy
August 21st, 2005, 07:04 PM
He's just trying to push sales of the XBox 360 - the 360 is for sure coming out the end of this year, where as the PS3 is still to be announced. I would lay money on it once XBox 360 has been out for a while and the PS3 is coming, he'll be like "No, PS3 is a far better purchase - you'd better reserve it now.... for a high fee"
Game stores play these same games every time new systems come out - just do what I do and ignore them :)
rebirth
August 21st, 2005, 07:30 PM
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000550054771/
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000900055039/
and the PS3 was on Amazon around 400 I believe.
Excrement_Cranium
August 21st, 2005, 07:37 PM
PS3 for $700, I don't think so...
Does anyone remember:
Neo Geo (http://www.retro-games.co.uk/neogeo/neogeomvs.htm)
Phillips CD-i (http://www.game-machines.com/consoles/cdi.php)
The 3DO Console (http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/other3do.htm)
Atari Jaguar (http://www.atariage.com/Jaguar/history.html)
Some of those systems had as many good games as the Gamecube, and most were technicly superior to what was on the market in their particular times.
Some did lack game developer support, but a price point that was well outside the market just dashed interest in them.
Digital Bliss
August 21st, 2005, 08:12 PM
How does this "clerk" know the actual price.... We will know when it comes out btw i hate game store clerks they act like they know everything ughh...
cpugeniusmv
August 21st, 2005, 08:37 PM
According to a recent study (not really, but that sure sounds convincing), 99% of the of employees that sell electronics either don't know what they're talking about, or are lying to you.
FrozenShadow23
August 21st, 2005, 09:49 PM
Name another console that died in it's third generation. If I can remember, dreamcast is the only one.
As a habit, I try to ignore idiots, and most register jockeys qualify.
(No offence to anyone who happens to work a job like this and ISN'T an idiot, I don't mean you)
MPXX
August 21st, 2005, 09:50 PM
According to a recent study (not really, but that sure sounds convincing), 99% of the of employees that sell electronics either don't know what they're talking about, or are lying to you.
Ditto on that...plus the majority of them are bias, as most of us are anyway...
Since when does having Bluetooth capability make a product hundreds of dollars more just because of that factor?? That's the first clue that shows that the clerk is just talking BS.
And another thing, corect me if I am wrong, isn't the main priority of Bluetooth NOT for data transfers, but for connectability b/w wireless I/O devices? never heard of Bluetooth being used for wireless internet communications.
Don't trust what that guy said, he just made it up in his mind...
The REAL price of the PS3 atm is ~$1400 USD; now Sony will just have to cut a few corners here, there, there, and there, over here, there, some down there, maybe up there, cut the 'cell' chip in half and walla! It's now $500 USD!
Seriously though, I believe the PS3 will literally melt two hours after you turn it on....
black_magiic
August 21st, 2005, 09:52 PM
See I want to get a job in the next few years at hopefully EB Games so I can proove that not all game store clerks are tools :-) Im not sure what I will get in the way of consoles, Im almost thinking of just giving up console gaming or maybe buying an xbox with a mod chip and going for broke with mod chip stuff.
ccc1005
August 21st, 2005, 10:02 PM
According to a recent study (not really, but that sure sounds convincing), 99% of the of employees that sell electronics either don't know what they're talking about, or are lying to you.
Reminds me of the Best Buy employee that tried telling me the iRiver H10 ($299) was the same as the H120 (I payed $330 for it) when my H120 broke, and he also had no idea what Winamp was. He definately should be in the Digital Music Player section....:hi
mojo-ris-in
August 21st, 2005, 11:56 PM
Come on do you really believe Sony won't price their new box favorably to what the new xbox and nintendo box.
Don't believe these so-called experts. It would be stupidity on Sony's part to do this and Sony is anything but stupid.
Mels_Smileys45
August 22nd, 2005, 01:24 AM
The Ps3 is a looooooonnnnggggggg way off. Maybe X mas 2006 or later. Way to early to tell as of now.
Krell
August 22nd, 2005, 01:29 AM
PS3 is slated for Spring, MS will release new Halo right before
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wonderboy2005
August 22nd, 2005, 01:36 AM
I was talking to the game store clerk and. I asked him what the price of ps3 and xbox360 w would be he said ps3 will be $700 do to it uses bluetooth. He said the xbox360 will cost $400. i said why so much difference. He said well xbox is going to use wifi which is better for gaming. bluetooth is better for communication. I told him well i guess ps3 will go down the drain. He said looks like it its the third generation of ps3 so it has a chance it will fail. he said heres and example sega dreamcast. Its the thrid generation curse he said and xbox is cheaper.
id rather go with the xbox360 wif you want more for gaming. I said oh ok well g2g bye.
Either that guy was playing you, or he shouldn't be allowed near anything that requires electricity.
1) Despite Sony's history of not-so-brilliant decisions, no company would ever consider making their baseline product more than twice that of the competition's baseline product. It would effectively remove Sony from the market.
2) The Xbox 360 will not start at $400. That's the cost of a package that includes a hard drive, wireless controller, and a HDTV kit. The baseline Xbox 360 will cost $299 and includes a wired controller and standard A/V kit.
3) WiFi and bluetooth are very similar technologies. Both are short range digital data transfer technologies. Both use radio frequency as a base technology. The difference in hardware conponets is minimal, which means that the difference in costs would be insignificant - most definately not enough to increase the cost 133%. Furthermore, saying WiFi is better for gaming is plain and simply stupid. Both technologies will be used primarily as a controller interface. The bandwith needed for even 7 controllers as the ps3 will be capable of using is a miniscule fraction of the avalible bandwith.
4) The third generation curse? please. As stated above, the dreamcast is the only example of a 3rd generation console flopping. If you really want to believe that it flopped due to a 'curse,' then so be it. But a more plausable explination would be that the console was simply too early and too costly. Speaking of early, the Xbox 360 is probably more likely to follow the dreamcast's lead than the PS3.
This salesman seems like a complete dolt. The internet is a great resource - don't base your buying decisions on the biased, uneducated opinions of some minimum wage pseudo-geek.
Mels_Smileys45
August 22nd, 2005, 01:55 AM
I really don't think Sony will be ready by spring. The chipset is hardly in place yet and games need time to develope. Its a good ploy to get some to hold off on the x box though.
Lord_of_the_Dense
August 23rd, 2005, 01:22 AM
Let me get this straight, for $300 I can get an Xbox 360, but it won’t play Xbox games, won’t be wireless and won’t come with a remote control or harddrive. Or I could spend $400 and get the things that the 360 should really ship with, but it still won’t come with a game or have the stuff I really want.
To truly have the system that Microsoft talked about when they unveiled the 360 I would have to spend closer to $650. Here’s the break-down:
Xbox 360 Standard: $399.99
Gold Xbox Live Subscription: At least $49.99 (Likely more.)
Wireless Networking Adapter: $99.99
Second Wireless Controller: $49.99
Two Play and Charge Kits: $19.99 times two.
Total: $639.94
Read entire story here (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/editorial/the-xbox-360-experience-comes-with-650-price-tag-118147.php).
Krell
August 23rd, 2005, 01:36 AM
This salesman seems like a complete dolt. The internet is a great resource - don't base your buying decisions on the biased, uneducated opinions of some minimum wage pseudo-geek.
He could move on to a career at RadioShack, or BestBuys.
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silentscream
August 23rd, 2005, 02:05 AM
personaly ist the point in blutooth low power consumption
wifi eats a sumo ass full of power... how long will ure batteries last lol
but im pretty sure the ps3 has wifi aswell anyway lol
Greg