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awehr
July 29th, 2005, 09:50 PM
Corante/Copyfight (http://www.corante.com/copyfight/archives/2005/07/27/how_microsoft_is_selling_out_the_public_to_please_ hollywood.php) Does a good job summarizing a 4 part series from EFF deeplinks on just how much DRM is crammed under longhorn/Vista's hood.

This to me is beyond scary.

-Theyre requiring DRM out the wazoo (CGMS-A, AACS, HDCP) from hardware manufacturers in order to pass the logo testing requirements.

-These same requirements involve requirements that the drivers respect the "protected media path" encryption standars which encrypt the video and audio paths (pci-X buses and even outputs)

-Video Card manufacturers, in order to comply with the testing for this new os.. must "DOWN REZ" or outright refuse to support any monitor which is not HDCP compatible.

-New driver authentication systems are designed with the specific intent of breaking emulation and virtual hardware

A thorough look in the links above show more... and this is BEFORE they introduce the "palladium, NGSCB, Trusted Computing" core.

This makes fritz chips seem downright benign, and it's clear M$ did not build this operating system for it's users, but for it's true customers... the studio fat cats.

Pirate_RRRRRR_IIIIII
July 29th, 2005, 10:23 PM
Might be a good time to try linux

d3ft0n3s
July 29th, 2005, 11:34 PM
or it just wont sell. i cant imagine a need for much beter os than xp pro.

Excrement_Cranium
July 30th, 2005, 02:50 AM
Oh, it will sell. And it will sell in bundles. Most of the computer users of the world are the shocked parents who don't know their kids are checking out porn and downloading music. Most of them could care less about DRM.

silentscream
July 30th, 2005, 04:41 AM
Oh, it will sell. And it will sell in bundles. Most of the computer users of the world are the shocked parents who don't know their kids are checking out porn and downloading music. Most of them could care less about DRM.


yep not to mention it will be bundled with every new pc

and games/software makers will end up coding just for vista

method
July 30th, 2005, 05:50 AM
I'm glad my linux skills are getting better... but still...

This is Micro$hit... it will be cracked to pieces within a couple of weeks.

There's probably more security holes than ever before too... thanks to their insistance on bloating our systems with Intellectual-Property-Protection schemes that none of their customers want.

The more they push this shit against the consumer... the more I realize linux is better.

Go MS... push everyone towards linux... push us all towards proper security at kernel level, apps that are bloat-free and an OS that is generally less-restrictive (at least... not intentionally like with MS)

Excrement_Cranium
July 30th, 2005, 07:00 AM
Sounds good in theory...


But the problem is, the people who post on these boards are not micro$oft's "consumer." These are people who think Linux is a Peanut's chatacter, and mostly spend $2000 on a computer to e-mail grandma and play solitaire. The only bloating they worry about comes with a monthly period. I suppose the real way to go will be linux... possibly a dual partition for games or other programs one might use that are incompatible, as long as they are incompatible. As for me, I haven't tried anything other than a short run on SUSE, so.... guess I'll be under the DRM thumb untill I have money for a new comp, and time to learn a new system.

mcovey
July 30th, 2005, 08:25 AM
frankly you guys can waste your money :p

I see no reason to bother. If this affects what hardware makers produce, then I see no reason to bother with computers at all anymore. Wait until what I have becomes so outdated it can no longer function in a suitable way with external things like the internet, and then chuck it.

truelyme
August 6th, 2005, 02:19 PM
I'm with the rest of the folks on Linux. Slowly my skills get better as the days go by. Bill and the boyz can forget it, I don't want anymore Microsucks products. I am not running dual boots, rather I am running dedicated Linux boxes. If going to Microsucks is the price to pay for games, forget it.