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axlman
July 20th, 2005, 03:26 PM
By RON HARRIS, Associated Press Writer


SAN FRANCISCO - The video game industry on Wednesday changed to adults-only the rating of "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas," a best-selling title in which explicit sexual content can be unlocked with an Internet download.

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The decision followed intense pressure from politicians and media watch groups.

Grand Theft Auto's producer, Rockstar Games, said it was now working on a new version of the game that would satisfy the original "M" for mature rating. It said it would provide new labels to any retailer willing to continue selling the version currently on store shelves.

Rockstar's parent, Take Two Interactive, also admitted for the first time Wednesday that the sex scenes had been built into the retail game — not just the PC version but also those written for Xbox and PlayStation2 consoles.

Company officials had previously suggested that a modification created by outsiders added the scenes to the game, last year's best seller in consoles.

"There is sex content in the disc," Take-Two spokesman Jim Ankner told The Associated Press. "The editing and finalization of any game is a complicated task and it's not uncommon for unused and unfinished content to remain on the disc."

The sex scenes, inserted in a game whose main character seeks bloody vengeance on gang-filled streets while pickup scantily clad women, had prompted outrage from parent's groups and politicians including Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y.

In a statement, the president of the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) said the sex scenes were programmed by Rockstar "to be inaccessible to the player."

But ESRB chief Patricia Vance also acknowledged that the "credibility and utility" of the industry-run board's initial "M" rating had been "seriously undermined."

Many retailers sell "M" rated games, which "may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older," according to the rating board. but won't sell "AO"-labeled games at all.

Take-Two also said Wednesday that it expects to suffer financially. It lowered its expectations for its current quarter and fiscal year to set aside funds for returns of the games, and figured that net sales could decrease by more than $50 million during the quarter ending July 31.

Shares of Take-Two rose 12 cents to close at $27.07 on the Nasdaq, but later dropped $3.07, or 11.3 percent, in after-hours activity.

The ratings change was vindication for Patrick Wildenbourg, the Dutch programmer who developed and freely distributed the modification that unlocked the controversial content in the game's PC version.

Such "mods" are wildly popular in the hardcore gaming community and — authorized or not — exploit the medium's interactive nature to extend the playing life of many popular titles.

Take-Two president Paul Eibeler stressed in a statement that only an unauthorized "mod" makes the sex scenes available, and said "the decision to re-rate a game based on an unauthorized third party modification presents a new challenge for parents, the interactive entertainment industry and anyone who distributes or consumes digital content."

That prompted an angry reaction from David Walsh, founder of the National Institute on the Media and the Family, a Minneapolis-based group that monitors the industry.

Walsh criticized Rockstar for what he called a "carefully worded statement" that leaves the impression that "modders" are responsible for the content. "They did not take responsibility for the fact that this code was created within their company and placed on disks and shipped to responsible retailers."

The Parents Television Council, another group that monitors sex and violence in the media, said it was pleased with the rating switch but called on Rockstar to voluntarily recall the game and offer refunds to anyone who purchased it.

"I tip my cap to that first step of showing responsibility," said Tim Winter, the council's executive director. "Phase two needs to be absolutely getting to the bottom of this coding issue. How did it get into that game? How did it get past the ratings board?"

The ESRB was formed 11 years ago amid congressional pressure to crack down on violent video games. The board now issues ratings for more than 1,000 game titles each year.

Game makers must submit a lengthy form describing the most extreme content, and turn over visual samples and scripted dialogue as each game nears the final stages of development.

silentscream
July 20th, 2005, 03:46 PM
BULLSHIT

in england the game has *18* slapped on it

which means that no kid should ever see the content whether its there or not

cant really see anyone else who likes GTA being arsed about such content and would probably just be amused

.

Matt
July 20th, 2005, 03:58 PM
i think its funny that you can go and blow anything up and buy and sell drugs and stuff, but parents get mad about a blowjob? I guess this is clinton all over again haha.

ratbag
July 20th, 2005, 05:56 PM
rating means nothing wen you can download the game from the internet..... oh this for those who BUY the games

crash4419
July 25th, 2005, 06:55 AM
this world sucks what the fuck is going on fuck prunes first of all get your head out of your fucking assholes damn goverment what THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE FROM KIDS

WOW IT SHOWS TITS OMG THERE SCARRDED FOR LIFE
BULL FUCKING SHIT

AND ALL THE TEENS THAT HAVE THE GAME HELL
IN SCHOOL THEY TELL US ABOUT TITS AND BLOWJOBS AND ALL THAT OMG WOW

PPL ACT LIKE ITS THE END OF THE WORLD WHO GIVES A FUCK I HATE THIS WORLD SO OVERREACTIVE

THE U.S. STICKS IT'S NOSE IN EVERYONE'S BUSINESS THE PRUNE ASS PARENTS OF THIS WORLD FLIP BECAUSE OF A LOUSY POOR GRAPHICAL SEX SCENE THAT SHOWS NOTHING JEEZE

AND DID WE FORGET THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SEX TO MAKE YOUR KIDS IN THE FIRST PLACE SO I GUESS YOUR HORRIBLE YOURSELF OMG TOO BAD ONLY LIKE A COUPLE YEARS LATER OR THAT WEEK OR MAYBE ALRDY YOUR TEENAGER HAS DONE CRAP LIKE THAT

ASSHOLE I HATE THESE RULES AND POLICIES SUCK BULLSHIT omg its a WOMENS BREAST WEEEPIIEEE O NO I CAN'T C THIS I MIGHT BE SCARED FOR LIFE YEA RIGHT.......WHO THE HELL WOULD BE SCARED....ONLY A FUCKING FAGG



i hate this world ppl need to go on with life and stop trying to protect everyone from all that goes on NATUALLY in life because in the long run it hurts them because THEY WON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH PROBLEMS DURING THERE ADULTHOOD

REMEMBER WERE THE FUTURE stop treating us like babies



ROCK ON TAKE TWO AND ROCKSTAR

THIS WORLD SUCKS

PARENTS SUCK

THE GOVERNEMT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SUCKS

AND THE ONE OF ENGLAND


O YEA AND ABOUT ALL THESE SEXUALLY SONGS ON THE RADIO AND IN THE STORES....HMMM I GUESS THEY GOTTA PULL THOSE OUT WHEN THOSE WHITE PARENTS FINALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT AHHH SKEEK SKEEK AHHH SKEET SKEET MEANS


I WONDER IF EVERYONE'S GOING TO FREAK THE SAME WAY WHEN THIS WORLD GOES IN OT THE NEXT ICE AGE DO TOO POLLUTION


"oh no save the kids they might see boobs"....."boobs man they can make you go blind, cause metal damage" yea right...BULLSHIT CONGRESS SUCKS THIS ENTIRE RATING CRAP SUCKS

FUCK THE USA IT GOVERNEMT AND FOR BEING SO DAMN COCKY

DIE'

ROT
IN
HELL

YUP BAD AFTER EFFECTS WORSE THEN DOING COCAIN

mcovey
July 25th, 2005, 07:47 AM
crash you should be in tv commercials ranting like that about... say... the effectiveness of certain brands of bleach. or how great a deal this brand new dell pc is.

.:sp00ky:.
July 25th, 2005, 08:26 AM
"oh no save the kids they might see boobs"....."boobs man they can make you go blind, cause metal damage"


I dunno you seem pretty mentally challenged maybe you have been looking at too much boobs.

Lord_of_the_Dense
July 25th, 2005, 09:22 AM
"oh no save the kids they might see boobs"....."boobs man they can make you go blind, cause metal damage"

Damn.

I may have to give up boobies. Nothing is going to damage my metal!

black_magiic
July 25th, 2005, 09:44 AM
this world sucks what the fuck is going on fuck prunes first of all get your head out of your fucking assholes damn goverment what THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE FROM KIDS

WOW IT SHOWS TITS OMG THERE SCARRDED FOR LIFE
BULL FUCKING SHIT

AND ALL THE TEENS THAT HAVE THE GAME HELL
IN SCHOOL THEY TELL US ABOUT TITS AND BLOWJOBS AND ALL THAT OMG WOW

PPL ACT LIKE ITS THE END OF THE WORLD WHO GIVES A FUCK I HATE THIS WORLD SO OVERREACTIVE

THE U.S. STICKS IT'S NOSE IN EVERYONE'S BUSINESS THE PRUNE ASS PARENTS OF THIS WORLD FLIP BECAUSE OF A LOUSY POOR GRAPHICAL SEX SCENE THAT SHOWS NOTHING JEEZE

AND DID WE FORGET THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SEX TO MAKE YOUR KIDS IN THE FIRST PLACE SO I GUESS YOUR HORRIBLE YOURSELF OMG TOO BAD ONLY LIKE A COUPLE YEARS LATER OR THAT WEEK OR MAYBE ALRDY YOUR TEENAGER HAS DONE CRAP LIKE THAT

ASSHOLE I HATE THESE RULES AND POLICIES SUCK BULLSHIT omg its a WOMENS BREAST WEEEPIIEEE O NO I CAN'T C THIS I MIGHT BE SCARED FOR LIFE YEA RIGHT.......WHO THE HELL WOULD BE SCARED....ONLY A FUCKING FAGG



i hate this world ppl need to go on with life and stop trying to protect everyone from all that goes on NATUALLY in life because in the long run it hurts them because THEY WON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH PROBLEMS DURING THERE ADULTHOOD

REMEMBER WERE THE FUTURE stop treating us like babies



ROCK ON TAKE TWO AND ROCKSTAR

THIS WORLD SUCKS

PARENTS SUCK

THE GOVERNEMT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SUCKS

AND THE ONE OF ENGLAND


O YEA AND ABOUT ALL THESE SEXUALLY SONGS ON THE RADIO AND IN THE STORES....HMMM I GUESS THEY GOTTA PULL THOSE OUT WHEN THOSE WHITE PARENTS FINALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT AHHH SKEEK SKEEK AHHH SKEET SKEET MEANS


I WONDER IF EVERYONE'S GOING TO FREAK THE SAME WAY WHEN THIS WORLD GOES IN OT THE NEXT ICE AGE DO TOO POLLUTION


"oh no save the kids they might see boobs"....."boobs man they can make you go blind, cause metal damage" yea right...BULLSHIT CONGRESS SUCKS THIS ENTIRE RATING CRAP SUCKS

FUCK THE USA IT GOVERNEMT AND FOR BEING SO DAMN COCKY

DIE'

ROT
IN
HELL

YUP BAD AFTER EFFECTS WORSE THEN DOING COCAIN

I think something might be wrong with your keyboard...

MPXX
July 25th, 2005, 09:48 AM
meh, it had a good run uner the M rating...don't mind it being AO either...

I thought ratings didn't matter to people so why would an AO be any different (unless you're under 18 of course) so instead of buying it at Wal-mart you get it at EB games, or your friendly BT store ;)

Crash has being eating too many Coocoo puffs lately; it's just a rating...

Lord_of_the_Dense
August 23rd, 2005, 12:56 AM
Another on the hitlist...

Jack Thompson's Latest Target: The Warriors

It's hard to keep up with Jack Thompson these days, as the Miami attorney and self-described "anti-game crusader" switches targets rapidly. In recent weeks he has moved from 25 to Life to Hot Coffee to Best Buy to The Sims 2 to Bill Gates to Bully to Killer7 to Senator Hillary Clinton to AIM icons, and now turns his attention to yet another Rockstar offering, The Warriors.

Scheduled for October release, The Warriors is based on the 1979 film of the same name from director Walter Hill, which in turn is based on a 1965 novel by author Sol Yurick. The story involves a street gang - The Warriors - that has been targeted by every other gang in New York City and must try to make their way home to the Bronx alive. GameSpot has posted a very favorable preview of the game.

Thompson's latest comes to our attention by way of e-mail, in which the attorney shares a letter sent to ESRB president Patricia Vance. Thompson's letter to Vance says in part, "Either the ESRB slaps an 'AO' for Adults Only rating on the above murder simulator, or I and others will undertake steps to make sure that happens...That movie spawned so much copycat violence 26 years ago that Paramount stopped advertising the movie and released movie theatres from their contractual obligations to exhibit the film."

Read entire story here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/gamepolitics/71285.html).