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View Full Version : a site for ANts community !
challenge
July 18th, 2005, 04:21 PM
It's time to move !
Join the "ANts Promote Team" and the ANts community at -- > http://iterminator.free.fr/news.php. (new url coming soon).
If you need help, tutos, if you would like to submit you own tuto in you own language, read news and interviews, please visit, register, and anime this site.
We need you, don't wait !
ANts revolution is coming and need a respectable site (like Emule) for help the transition.
Two sentences are our ethic line :
- defend the right of consumers.
- defend the use of inovation.
We speak about ANts, not what about anybody can download with. If you respect this rules, you can certainly take a look on the site and anime it.
Promote ANts, isn't that a good challenge ?
Because Europe and USA have to join Japan in the confidentiality quest (two of 3 of most use P2P in Japan are anonymous p2p like Winny and Share), it's time to use new P2P.
You can share with us now !
.:sp00ky:.
July 18th, 2005, 04:29 PM
Will you join us ?........
...no.
riderx
July 18th, 2005, 05:49 PM
It's time to move !
Join the "ANts Promote Team" and the ANts community at -- > http://iterminator.free.fr/news.php. (new url coming soon).
If you need help, tutos, if you would like to submit you own tuto in you own language, read news and interviews, please visit, register, and anime this site.
We need you, don't wait !
ANts revolution is coming and need a respectable site (like Emule) for help the transition.
Two sentences are our ethic line :
- defend the right of consumers.
- defend the use of inovation.
We speak about ANts, not what about anybody can download with. If you respect this rules, you can certainly take a look on the site and anime it.
Promote ANts, isn't that a good challenge ?
Because Europe and USA have to join Japan in the confidentiality quest (two of 3 of most use P2P in Japan are anonymous p2p like Winny and Share), it's time to use new P2P.
Will you join us ?
no such thing as anoymous p2p it just aint going to happen
ABC_thellookoflove
July 18th, 2005, 10:38 PM
http://www.ants-board.tk
challenge
July 19th, 2005, 12:33 AM
Hi guys ! I wil answer quickly :
"Will you join us ?........
...no."
Ok. It's your choice. I can accept that. But I demozalise when I heard that. ;).
Your answer is a bad news for me ...
if we want to know how works/runs ANts in multi-sources situation, we need more users.
The speed of ANts is not representative of it's possibilities.
it's why a J-Mule plug-ins could be a great idea.
(please do not simply answer no because it's an unconstructive answer).
"no such thing as anoymous p2p it just aint going to happen"
Don't understand what you really want to say with this stupid affirmative. P2P will be never fully anonymous and I have used the terme ''anonymous" because it will be more and more difficult to know who you are, what your are doing, uploading, downloading, with ANts than with Emule.
With Emule by exemple, it's a kindgame !
With ANts, there is main problems to discover what you are doing on the net : (proxys in another countries,, crypted connections, etc...).
For more details, I let Grewn or other guys explain.
Son Of Spam
July 19th, 2005, 02:43 AM
It's time to move !
Will you join us ?
no.
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challenge
July 19th, 2005, 04:55 AM
some moronic answers ...I will remove my question.
ABC_thellookoflove
July 19th, 2005, 07:14 AM
yes for ants dc we need an emule plugin soon
1985
July 19th, 2005, 07:25 AM
Subscribed.
Edit "join us" and replace with "share with us". "join us" sounds like a US Army spot :icon_puke
1985
July 19th, 2005, 07:28 AM
yes for ants dc we need an emule plugin soon
Correct, but it sounds as a huge work. No developers wants anonymous network, only Gwren, Clarke and few others think privacy is holy :icon_sunn .
ABC_thellookoflove
July 19th, 2005, 08:39 AM
well, of course it is work.
but, as well the emuel developers canīt deny, that one time in the furture they need this.
Wait for a few months and the opinion has changed.
Ants has the best pre.conditions to be hybrid with the worlds biggest network media repository, Ants was always ahead, to mute to i2p, to i2phey and as well to azureus over i2p.
so... an integrated version is always better, though gwren has a lot of work on other jobs.
He will watch to lose not the race.
To the technical side:
Gwrens code is not simple, so he is in favour to do it only.
But he already said, that servers could be an issue.
In ants they do not make sense, so they have to be in ants direct connect (ants dc)
If you then choose own servers or existing servers, this question is as well clear:
Ants do not want to be an emuel clone, so no need to invent the wheel twice.
Ants needs not own servers for ants dc, cause ants anon is the main competency and ants is not emule, so ants uses only an existing media partial resource, which is emule connection for ants dc.
If ants anon woudl use servers, then we could use own servers, in ants dc there is no need to use own server, zero users on ants dc decentral will get zero users in ants dc server.
so ants dc has the only way to use emuel servers to be hybrid with for 2 reasons: to get th emedia rpository, and to not make a competition with emule for a not used network in competition to a 5-Million network. So the way seems to be clear:
Implementing jmule in ants dc for hybrid partials.
there are as well other priorities: maybe the speration of ants gui and core, for other developers to go on, but there are no others, so gwren is in favour to do it. And thats why gui seperation has no priority. servers have more interest even from the userbase and community.
Anther post in the ants-board.tk is interesting to use for searches in ants anon way the emuel servers as well over a on ehop proxy,
I quote
ants modus MUST be alwas anonym.
So a hybrid search in emule and ants dc can only be in ants dc.
yes,it woudl be this way, that emule servers would be used, why inventing the wheel twice, ants do no want to compete with emule ins emule way, so ants is not a second emule, ants dc USES emule.
So it has to be a emuel server, because any ants server woudl not be used in direct modus, servers in ants modus coudl be own serversm, yes, but we only need servers in ants dc.
there could be one case, in which ants modus could use emule searches as well, if they were at least ONE HOP PROXY, this means running ants modus, doing a search, will ask as well one hop proxies to ask emule servers, so all direct ants clients should do and axecutive emule searver requests for searches as well for other nodes in ants. this would be good.
So a one hop proxy search fo emule servers in ants modus done by antds dc nodes would be good.
This way we can search emule out of ants and download partials from ants and ants dc nodes.
If this one hop search thriough ants dc nodes (e emuel server search) would be not done, ants nodes need partials of the requeste dfile in any ants node to get a queryhit back, which is rare and will not happen.
so an ants search shoudl allow, that ants dc nodes forweard the request to emuel servers.
this is what we could call a one hop proxy search through a gatekeeper to emule.
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ABC_thellookoflove
August 8th, 2005, 11:19 AM
new url coming soon ?