Xbox 360 or Sony Playstation 3

[Masterem67]

Where do you stand? Based on released stats and specs, which system of the new age do you support? Read compleate overviews and make your decisions.

www.majornelson.com

[Wipeout]

Thanks. I forgot to put up a poll when I made my thread. Too bad. Mine is closed. Yes. LOA is me. Actually, the reason I did not add a poll was because I did not know how to make one at the time.

[ccc1005]

Too bad its not a public poll... :(

[Wipeout]

It doesn't take a long time for a guest to register. And best of all, it's free. But I still think gamespot's poll is the most efficient.

[ccc1005]

Well i meant public as in you can see who voted for what...

[Wipeout]

Whoops. Ok, I'll tell you I voted for ps3. I just know Jim Morrison is going to vote for xbox360. He won't listen to a word I say to him. But then again, nobody should post anymore of this stuff. Everybody should only vote. There is already enough information at my thread.

[Jim Morrison]

Whoops. Ok, I'll tell you I voted for ps3. I just know Jim Morrison is going to vote for xbox360. He won't listen to a word I say to him. But then again, nobody should post anymore of this stuff. Everybody should only vote. There is already enough information at my thread.

Why would we anyone want to listen to a 10 year old kid? Neither system even close to being released.
Its like asking whats better the 2007 ford or the 2007 chevy. I truly dont give 2 shits if neither systems were even released. When you finally reach puberty, and start getting laid, video games will no longer be the central point of your adolescent life.

[Wipeout]

Then why did you vote for 360?

[Masterem67]

The 360 is going to rule the market. Even if the Playstation has higher specs. Microsoft is a computer company that can develope games that can take advantage of every little thing the 360 has to make a great game. They did it with the Xbox and they will repeat the process with the Xbox 360. Hands down, micorsoft wins.

[Auggie2k]

The question here should not be which is better because from experience nobody can know yet, it should be which console do you expect to buy, not thinking of the possible prices?

[Happe''2]

PS3 is the way to go, xbox has'nt got the japanese game programmers backing it, and Puh-leez european and american gamemakers can do platform games, but thats it.

Id say nintendo revolution :D

[broadwayrock]

xbox 360 hasnt got the Japanese game programmers backing it?

How about Software, Mistwalker, Phantagram, Bandai, Koei, Game Republic, Webzen, Capcom, Konami, Game Republic and Q Entertainment. Sega and Namco.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/607/607238p1.html

Square Enix are making Final Fantasy XI for xbox 360 and:

'Sakaguchi, the father of the "Final Fantasy" game franchise, was enlisted by Microsoft's Xbox team earlier this year as part of a broader effort to improve its standing in Japan in the next console generation'

'Sakaguchi now has his own development studio, Mistwalker. His agreement to make games for the Xbox 360, announced in February, was widely viewed as a coup for the Redmond company.'

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/225098_e3japan20.html

[Happe''2]

xbox 360 hasnt got the Japanese game programmers backing it?

How about Software, Mistwalker, Phantagram, Bandai, Koei, Game Republic, Webzen, Capcom, Konami, Game Republic and Q Entertainment. Sega and Namco.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/607/607238p1.html

Square Enix are making Final Fantasy XI for xbox 360 and:

'Sakaguchi, the father of the "Final Fantasy" game franchise, was enlisted by Microsoft's Xbox team earlier this year as part of a broader effort to improve its standing in Japan in the next console generation'

'Sakaguchi now has his own development studio, Mistwalker. His agreement to make games for the Xbox 360, announced in February, was widely viewed as a coup for the Redmond company.'

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/225098_e3japan20.html

Whatever, i guess i was misinformed, my apologies :icon_rabb

[Happe''2]

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/images/billgate1.jpg

thats just the guy i want to create my console of choice :P

lol

[cjules13]

I'm going with XBOX 360 because of the PC networking functions... that's almost more important to me.

[Gamer8585]

I think that this is going to be close. Sony seems to have superior: hardware (Cell and RSX=great potential),a plethora of third party support, full backward compatibily with all PS1 and PS2, and status as the incumbit. Plus Sony, and game devlopers, have said that the Cell is easy to program for, aliveating some of the worries that people had about it.

Microsoft however has definatly learned its lesson as evidenced by the 360 console design, plus it has deep pockets, the desire to be #1, gotten some japaneese third parties, knowlege of the home PC and useful network functions, and X-Box Live is the best online network plan for consoles (however I don't like the idea of having to pay to play my games, which I have already bought).

Lets not forget about Nintendo, they could very well sneek behind both Sony and Microsoft and put a knife in each of their backs. They've been #2/#3 for too long and they are a serious game company with unique ideas and classic characters, and I bet that they want to get back on top of the hill.

In the interst of full disclouser I voted for PS3. I think they showed the best games, and the real potential of their system. Micosoft talked alot, and touted how great X-box live was going to be, but showed few games or anything new about their system, Gears of War looks awesome, and their long term plan sounds solid, but they realy didn't show enough at E3 to get me pumped about it. As for Nintendo they were more focused on the DS then the Revolution. Althought the system looks like its going to have a nice simple design, and the backward compatiblity with all NES, SNES, N64, and Gamecube games is a great move, without gameplay footage, or at least a few third party titles announced, I can't realy make a judgement on this system.

[Potato]

I know this isn't entirely related but... eh.

The X-Box controllers make my hands hurt. The PS2 controllers are much more comfortable and... to me... sensible. Gamecube controllers are comfortable too.

One of the first things I looked at when looking at the pictures of the new consoles was the design of the controllers. The XBox one looks really weird... I dunno about that.

I'm not into new video games really, just my classic Nintendos. And Mario Kart.

[.:sp00ky:.]

anyone like puyo pop? their are loads of versions its been going for agers its totally adictive its abit like tetris but with blobs and they normaly have crazy storys involving cats n ninjas n stuff...

anywho....the x-box controller sucked because it was designed by a fat arse with fat fingers who didnt realise not everyone has massive hands especialy girls who tend to have smaller hands.

[ccc1005]

The X-Box controllers make my hands hurt. The PS2 controllers are much more comfortable and... to me... sensible. Gamecube controllers are comfortable too.


Seems like I am one of the very few people who still use the original big controller for the Xbox, I wonder if the 360 will allow for still using these controlllers, don't want to give it up quite yet since i've gotten so used to it.

[Potato]

Even the smaller XBox controller made my hands hurt. For me, the buttons are too far apart for easy reaching.

[Wipeout]

The question here should not be which is better because from experience nobody can know yet, it should be which console do you expect to buy, not thinking of the possible prices?
The way I see it right now is I don't care about which one you think is the best. From looking at gamespot's poll, I can walk knowingly that ps3 will sell more. The console that sells more always wins. Yes! I can finally take a break from the comparison.

[.:sp00ky:.]

"The way I see it right now is I don't care about which one you think is the best."

yet you think we care what you think...

the rest of your comment makes you sound like a sheep,you want what everyone else has because you think that makes you look "cooler" "The console that sells more always wins" have fun with your "winning console" im sure your life will be fulfilled.

[Wipeout]

It's better being cool than being uncool. You agree with that?

[cjules13]

That's what most cigarette smokers think too...lol

[Wipeout]

Umm........NO! Smoking is not cool. First of all, you get lung cancer. And second of all, you pollute the environment.

[.:sp00ky:.]

It's better being cool than being uncool. You agree with that?

yeah you will probably grow out of that once pubity hits you.

edit: you are basicly saying to be cool you have to be what everyone else is you have to have what they have and if you don't your not as good or uncool as you put it.

[The Hunter]

Personally buying something because you think it makes you cool, actually makes you look rather pathetic. Sort of like a lemming running off a cliff just because the others did.

[Wipeout]

Running off a cliff is also not cool. I don't follow others doing uncool stuff.

But then again, there are people who thinks you are pathetic if you don't buy a ps3.

It's like if you don't own a television, you're pathetic.

This is the barrier between the rich and the poor.

So in the end, it's your choice if you want to buy one or not.

I'm sure everyone here have been peer-pressured by friends to buy something.

But let me tell you one thing. If you say no and they still force you to buy it, they're not your friends.

Have you ever forced someone to buy something? I'm sure I did.

Perhaps I should make a thread about this.

[.:sp00ky:.]

he was using a well know metaphor >_>

[cjules13]

yeah you will probably grow out of that once pubity hits you.

That may be a ways off for our 9 year-old ps3 fanboy here...:icon_sunn

Don't you have to be 13 or something to post here?

[Wipeout]

Yes, I admit I am a ps3 fanboy. I'm also glad I am one.

[muffenme]

I not going to get it right away but I am going to get a PS3.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Running off a cliff is also not cool.

Drat!

Foiled again. :green5

[The Hunter]

I could provide a push.

[Ne007]

Seeing how the only games I generally play are FPS....I'm buying an Xbox2.

Really...what happened to all the Nintendo fanboys out there? The last generation to come out, everyone was voting that they were going to buy nintendos. Everywhere you looked the polls gave favor to Nintendo......everyone was fanboying Nintendo to death and where are they now?

[cjules13]

There's a Nintendo thread too...
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=28940

I have a GameCube and love it, but I'm thinking I may need an Xbox2 and Nintendo Revolutions both now.... for different reasons.

[Masterem67]

Heres some in-game screenshots for those who havent seen any:

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/744/744413/imgs_1.html

[Wipeout]

I'm sure I made a thread long long time ago about this:

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=28654

I have one question. Microsoft said all games on the xbox360 would be able to go online. The question is, how are they going to make every single game online? I played enough games that I can say, not every game is meant to be played online.

If you need information about how to preorder these consoles, look here:
http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=909102864&topic=21156064&page=0

I pre-ordered mine already.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

I have one question. Microsoft said all games on the xbox360 would be able to go online. The question is, how are they going to make every single game online? I played enough games that I can say, not every game is meant to be played online.

I too doubt this is true. It would actually hurt sales if the games were exclusively online. You stated that MS said this. Do you have a source? And please don't say to watch the E3 video.

[Wipeout]

Sorry, I did not receive that information by reading a site. I receive it through a video. It is NOT a E3 video. Here is the link:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=5809&type=wmv

Sometimes, the site receives too much connectivity going on that it won't work. Just wait a couple of minutes and then you'll be able to watch it.

He will say that every single game is on xbox live on the 80th second.

By the way, the music is excellent.


It would actually hurt sales if the games were exclusively online.

Exactly.

[.:sp00ky:.]

wrong.He said every game would be able to have online ability e.g download new levels skins ect.
just becasue something is online enabled does not mean it plays online.
no one is going to force a game company to add online game play that would be silly.

[Wipeout]

This is the ultimate link:

http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=909102863&topic=21114947&page=0

Now that's when I say microsoft is totally biased.

Microsoft thinking that ps3 might beat their console, shouts at the whole world that their console is better. LMAO.

It's a fact anyways.

[Jim Morrison]

Thats the way they should be too. All nex-gen xbox games should be online enabled. I love the Live-aware feature that games have, so even if the game has no online multiplayer i can still see my friends and recieve invites to other games.

[.:sp00ky:.]

stop spamming gamespot.

1.no one cares.
2.stop making out that posts on gamestop are some how god like, "ultimate link" yeah sure it is......"proof" ooh its from some sad kid with a billion posts must be true...
3.no one cares.
4.NO ONE CARES!!!!!!

[Jim Morrison]

I dont think anyone cares what he does.

[Wipeout]

Spooky, you have too much time flaming around. As there are lots of people who cares. It's when you think the ps3 can beat the xbox360 and you got nothing to say. Your brain cannot think of any idea to debate with me. Then you act like that.

Btw, it's almost like you have to see my posts or else you can't live.

Actually, you were the one starting the argument. Stop trolling.

[.:sp00ky:.]

get over yourself honey,you mean nothing to anyone,"It's when you think the ps3 can beat the xbox360" lol can't belive you think people care so many times people have told you no one cares about which computer"beats" which even then mods have said but still you think people care "my flop is faster than your flop" well...thats great..girls dig flops. im sure their are girls posativley pissing their pants wih excitment when they see your sexy flop data.

[Wipeout]

go to the gamespot forum and you'll see that so many people do care. You're not a gamer so that is just why.

[The Hunter]

Exactly, they would on a gaming forum.

[Wipeout]

I remember we have a gaming forum.

[Kevin33134]

Personally buying something because you think it makes you cool, actually makes you look rather pathetic. Sort of like a lemming running off a cliff just because the others did.
Do not fear conformism. We all conform.

[ccc1005]

Originally Posted by The Hunter
Personally buying something because you think it makes you cool, actually makes you look rather pathetic. Sort of like a lemming running off a cliff just because the others did.


Sort of reminds me of how the iPod is the "cool" thing to get, when some other similar players offer a lot more functionality with a similar cost...

[Share Poo]

I dont conform, as its a waste of time trying to impress a bunch of little twats that cant figure out what they want until they see what is the most leet thing to own.

[MrGonzo]

PS3 all the way!!

I never liked too much the games Xbox came out with, and everyone is sayong PS3 is going to have just as good a processor or better, plus more pixels anyway.

And besides I love the feel of the PS controllers Ive always hated XBOXs' controllers, first they were too big, and the controlls were fucked, then they tried to shrink it to make it like the PS controller, and failed.

So all in all Im going to stick with PS3 unless this XBOX360 truly impresses me, which will be hard to because Ive always loved the games and the selection it has. Think about it, compared to PS2-3 XBOX doesn't even come close to the amount of games PS has, and I dont think they will ever catch up any time soon.

PS3 or die!!

[ccc1005]

Its so weird that everyone hates the big controllers, I use em all the time and they fit perfectly, guess i have big hands :icon_scra


plus more pixels anyway.

Um they are both HD with the same pixels...


So all in all Im going to stick with PS3 unless this XBOX360 truly impresses me, which will be hard to because Ive always loved the games and the selection it has. Think about it, compared to PS2-3 XBOX doesn't even come close to the amount of games PS has, and I dont think they will ever catch up any time soon.

Yes but how many PS1 games do you play on your PS2, I dont think the games from the past versions will matter much, the "next-gen" will have a much bigger impact IMHO.

[Jim Morrison]

I liked the xbox controller-s alot more than the original, actually i like it more than the ps2 controller after i got used to it. Also i wouldnt judge what system i buy on the controllers, because sony has changed the design of the ps3 controller, it may be too small for the big handed players, but who knows, im willing to give it a try.

[transduction]

I'm going with Playstation 2, Xbox, and the Dreamcast until they lower their prices on these new systems. No smart person will pay top dollar and PS3 or Xbox 360 when they will go down in price anyway.

[Auggie2k]

I'm going with Playstation 2, Xbox, and the Dreamcast until they lower their prices on these new systems. No smart person will pay top dollar and PS3 or Xbox 360 when they will go down in price anyway.
True, sure look at the ps2, it was still selling like hot cakes 2 years after it was release! Plus, after a year or two, the ps3 or xbox360 will probably have new improvements, releases, colours ect..!

[Wipeout]

Um they are both HD with the same pixels....

That have not proven to be the case. Do you have a link? Ps3 is capable of 1080p while xbox360 is only to 1080i. Also, ps3 can be displayed on 2 HDTV simultaneously while xbox360 can only do one.

It's all about the games. But companies tend to favor the console with the best graphics

There is a online service for the ps3 in development. It is yet to be announced. I know you want a link so here it is:

http://www.ps3land.com/faq.php

Go to the last question. The sixth question proves that ccc1005 is right about ps3 being a supercomputer.

The ps3 can be white, silver or black. For a picture of a black ps3, go here on the last picture:

http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/ps3/ps3-image.html

If you want more information about both systems before you vote, please look here:

http://winsupersite.com/showcase/xbox360_vs_ps3.asp

The ps3 have the blu-ray while the xbox360 doesn't. The storage capacity for the ps3 is to be announced. (TBA).

This is my speculation. The ps3 online service is going to be free.

Trust me. I've been researching ps3 more than a week. I know all the facts. And what I'm telling you are just facts.

[Jim Morrison]

Can't wait to see what a video game looks like in 1080p, I have a few that support 1080i right now, gran turismo probably looks the best, just because there gonna support 1080p doesnt mean much anyhow, How many people will want to upgrade there HDTV just because the ps3 supports 1080p

[ccc1005]

That have not proven to be the case. Do you have a link? Ps3 is capable of 1080p while xbox360 is only to 1080i. Also, ps3 can be displayed on 2 HDTV simultaneously while xbox360 can only do one.

Yes but last I checked 1080i and 1080p are technically the same resolution, just one is interlaced and one progressive, and I dont think people are going to go by a new HDTV just to use 1080p over 1080i...



It's all about the games. But companies tend to favor the console with the best graphics


Yes this is true, but would you rather program for 8 processors or 3, thats the one problem with the cell processors, damn powerful but you have to program it well to use all the resources...

[Jim Morrison]

[QUOTE=ccc1005]Yes but last I checked 1080i and 1080p are technically the same resolution, just one is interlaced and one progressive, and I dont think people are going to go by a new HDTV just to use 1080p over 1080i...

sounds like wipeout will. The images using 1080p look better in motion thats all. Not enough to put one system over the top. Maybe Wipeout can be one of sonys beta testers when they come out with there online service, will it support dial-up like the ps2? LOL

Most developers that put out the same game will probably just port the xbox version over to the ps3 due to the fact the ps3 will be harder to develop the games. Basically how EA sports does there games now.

[Wipeout]

The 360 is going to rule the market. Even if the Playstation has higher specs. Microsoft is a computer company that can develope games that can take advantage of every little thing the 360 has to make a great game. They did it with the Xbox and they will repeat the process with the Xbox 360. Hands down, micorsoft wins.
Reverse it around and I can say sony can take advantage of every little thing the ps3 has to make a great game. They did it with the ps2 and they will repeat the process with the ps3.

Sorry but I just think that was a stupid thing to say.

Now back to the games. Obviously, games are becoming easier to make because they have more power to work with. This means that the ps3 games won't be that much harder to make than the x360.

[Jay20]

well that wrong games are harder to make because of the graphics each characters takes longer to make more details

[Wipeout]

They can use an engine such as the unreal engine 3.0. Unreal Engine 3 is a complete game development framework for next-generation consoles and DirectX9-equipped PC's, providing the vast array of core technologies, content creation tools, and support infrastructure required by top game developers.

http://www.unrealtechnology.com/html/technology/ue30.shtml

Now, game developers are not limited to the amount of detail they can put into it.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php(que)id=58354

"What do you think the future holds for the series?

Wilbur: We're making a commitment to the Unreal Tournament franchise. We have an engine that scales with hardware. Right now, the only limitation to expanding the resources used by the technology are the hardware resources that are available to us. In Unreal Tournament 2003, we have 100 times more detail than in Unreal Tournament. There's no reason why we couldn't make it 200, 500 or even 1,000 times more detailed than Unreal Tournament. The only reason we're not doing this right now is that the hardware's not powerful enough yet."

But what Jay20 said is not totally wrong.

[Siskabush]

Why would we anyone want to listen to a 10 year old kid? Neither system even close to being released.
Its like asking whats better the 2007 ford or the 2007 chevy. I truly dont give 2 shits if neither systems were even released. When you finally reach puberty, and start getting laid, video games will no longer be the central point of your adolescent life.

You sound like the most mature and intelligent person in the world dumbass. Only immature kids use getting laid as a status symbol.

Anyway...
Judging from the specs, and from the demos, I think the PS3 is gonna walk all over the 360. The PS3 produces graphics that compare to real life.

In the end though, its all about the fun factor of the games.

[Rick James]

Who are you Fool? His Boyfriend?

[Wipeout]

His Boyfriend?
That's gay and nonsense to this thread. Please use private messaging.

Hey I voted, this thread is nonsense little girl. You can PM me all you want! I make u my bitch
I'm not a girl. But, I also agree this thread is nonsense. Just bring it back to usefulness.

You have to understand that Rick James is a superfreak.
I'm surprised you know this when he only made 30 posts.

haha, thats right dawg, I dont get online much, its hard to please all these ho's. U wanna join the Ho-train wipeout? Trust me I'll turn you out girl, aint no playstations or xbox in my crib, we only play twister.
I go online. I'm just waiting for battlefield 2 to come out. I say it again and make sure you hear me. I'M NOT A GIRL!!!!! I'm also not gay. Find another partner please.

you da girl in the pic, lookin kinda dumb.
LMAO. Sorry to disappoint you but that girl in the pic is not even real. So if you're talking to that girl, you're talking to yourself. Btw, you wanna know her name? Her name is Ashe. But I know you won't give up trying to talk to her. The only way is to play the game assuming you have a ps2.

But I got a question. Is that ugly person in your avatar you? If yes, I'm out of here. Later.

[Rick James]

Hey I voted, this thread is nonsense little girl. You can PM me all you want! I make u my bitch

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

You have to understand that Rick James is a superfreak.

[Rick James]

haha, thats right dawg, I dont get online much, its hard to please all these ho's. U wanna join the Ho-train wipeout? Trust me I'll turn you out girl, aint no playstations or xbox in my crib, we only play twister.

[Rick James]

Well I think you a girl, quit lying please. you da girl in the pic, lookin kinda dumb. It's alright if you were born with both parts. I understand its hard to make your mind up.

[.:sp00ky:.]

Well I think you a girl, quit lying please. you da girl in the pic, lookin kinda dumb. It's alright if you were born with both parts. I understand its hard to make your mind up.


lol wow i never thought wipeout was a hermaphrodite,although it would explain alot.

[Rick James]

That's me rick james in the avatar, and if u were born in the late 70's early 80's i could be your daddy.

[ccc1005]

Anyway...
Judging from the specs, and from the demos, I think the PS3 is gonna walk all over the 360. The PS3 produces graphics that compare to real life.
.

What demos, none of the PS3 games had any real-time playing at the E3 booths...

Secondly the specs are not very different, the XBOX360 will produce "real-life" graphics as well...

But if thats how you feel have fun with your PS3 while I play Halo 3 :icon_rr:

[Jim Morrison]

[Secondly the specs are not very different, the XBOX360 will produce "real-life" graphics as well...

But if thats how you feel have fun with your PS3 while I play Halo 3 :icon_rr:[/QUOTE]

you shouldnt have added this, now wipeouts gonna have to go to the gamespot forums and tell his little friends. It's not true heres the facts, its not true heres the facts, oh this is never ending.

[the great one]

Just buy both and it won't matter which console is better.
Each console has it's own exclusive titles that you won't be able to play on the other one,so it's best to have both.

[broadwayrock]

PS3 E3 demos confirmed as fakes:

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=36063&subsectionid=1585

[.:sp00ky:.]

sony always have done that just like they did for ps1 and 2 anyone remember the amazing looking game "the bouncer" for ps2 they showed it off so much and it looked amazing...until the day it was released and people found out all that sony had been showing was fmv..the game was pure poop.

[ccc1005]

you shouldnt have added this, now wipeouts gonna have to go to the gamespot forums and tell his little friends. It's not true heres the facts, its not true heres the facts, oh this is never ending.

I was really just joking about that one, meant it to be a bit sarcastic, haha

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

sony always have done that just like they did for ps1 and 2 anyone remember the amazing looking game "the bouncer" for ps2 they showed it off so much and it looked amazing...until the day it was released and people found out all that sony had been showing was fmv..the game was pure poop.

I remember that one. Aside from the graphics, I heard the game was really short, full of CG and not all that fun to play. I was almost taken by the fact that because Squaresoft had made it, it would be great, but after the research, I though twice about it. No regrets.

[Wipeout]

PS3 E3 demos confirmed as fakes:

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=36063&subsectionid=1585
Then I can surely say the same thing and say x360 e3 demos are fakes.

haha, we all seen the people playing the xbox360 on that mtv premiere thing, so we know the shit not fake.
OMG. I wasn't saying the xbox360 graphics would do less than the videos. I was simply trying to say that the xbox360 would have way better graphics than the videos. But I could also say the same thing with the ps3 using RSX. The fact is both chips have not been developed yet so the only thing I can say is wait until they are released and then compare.

I'll say this again. Do not compare them until they are released. If you give facts then that's alright. Surely you can also talk about the games.

BTW, I didn't remember the link but I remember it said the x360 e3 videos were only running 30% of x360 full potential graphics. I forgot the percentage for ps3. I know more about the two systems and surely you know about them too. But we have to wait for further news. I'll post new stuff when it is available.

[notbob]

Then I can surely say the same thing and say x360 e3 demos are fakes.

with what evidence?

p.s. fanboyism is not evidence

[ccc1005]

PS3 E3 demos confirmed as fakes:

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=36063&subsectionid=1585

Great link, I knew this would happen but nobody believed me, most of the stuff you see at E3 etc is just a mock rendering of what the game might look like. The games that have playable demos however are a completely different story.


Then I can surely say the same thing and say x360 e3 demos are fakes.

Hmm, find us a link...

[Jim Morrison]

haha, we all seen the people playing the xbox360 on that mtv premiere thing, so we know the shit not fake.

[.:sp00ky:.]

yup alot of the early xbox2360 games do look abit poo but at least it was real poo,poo you could play with.Showing fmv(which they made look belivible) and then saying this is how we would like our games to look like is just cheap.

[superdeduper777]

I voted for ps3 because I am a hardcore fan of sony and always will be ,besides the sony system has better and more games to choose from. Besides that you cant tell me you like the xbox controllers they are just round looking and hard to use i think and there just not hand friendly like ps1, ps2 daulshock. and another thing sony has been making game systems before xbox even came out so they know what they are doing.

[ivand67]

I've never heard this: "The Microsoft Xbox"

But I HAVE heard THIS: "The Sony Playstation"

I could make a huge list of reasons why Microsoft doesn't want to directly put its name on the Xbox 360 (as in calling it "The Microsoft Xbox" and marketing it that way). But I won't. It's obvious.

So let me quote this guy, who seems to be doing more crack harder than Tyrone Biggums:


The 360 is going to rule the market. Even if the Playstation has higher specs. Microsoft is a computer company that can develope games that can take advantage of every little thing the 360 has to make a great game. They did it with the Xbox and they will repeat the process with the Xbox 360. Hands down, micorsoft wins.

The Playstation 2 has a 42% market share. The Xbox has a 19% market share. I've read about this from reliable sources.

You my friend, need to stop being such a Microsoft whore. If you like the kiddy-friendly Xbox and Halo, great. When you say that Microsoft is a computer company... then WTF is Sony?! Sony makes computers, TVs, software, DVD players, and all kinds of shit. The PS3 will probably be more advanced when it comes to the technology, which you don't seem to understand in the first place.

But until all of you actually try out both consoles, discussing which one's gonna be better is just a bunch of clueless opinions.

I don't like Microsoft and I am biased for the PS3 - but I can't say the Xbox is gonna suck or the PS3 is gonna be 10 times better because that's just ignorant. Wait til they come out and then start some real comparisons.

[ccc1005]

You my friend, need to stop being such a Microsoft whore. If you like the kiddy-friendly Xbox and Halo, great

Sure you didnt mean the kiddy-friendly Gamecube... Halo is hardly kiddy-friendly and its a damn good game.

[DOA4]

Fact: X360 DVD will have 35-65% faster read speeds than the PS3 Blu-Ray

Just found this out, thought you might like to know, might shut those PS3 freaks up for 10 seconds.

A 12x DVD is 65% faster than a 1x Blu-Ray drive. At 1x DVD has a transfer rate of 1.4MB/s, blu-ray has 6.75MB/s, so you might thing the PS3 will be 5x faster than the 360. But the 360 dvd won't be running at 1x, it's running at 12x!

At 12x the 360 DVD will have 16.56MB/s vs. the 1x Blu-Ray with 6.75MB/s. Even if Sony manages to get a 2x blu-ray drive, the 360 will still have about 35% faster read speeds, if PS3 has a 1x drive than the 360 will have nearly 65% faster read speeds.

And a 2x Blu-Ray seems doubtful considering the timeframe. It probably be pretty expensive for Sony.

Here are some advantages to staying with DVD:

- Faster read speeds
- Faster seek times
- More reliable drives
- Less read errors
- Cheaper to Produce (lower pricetag)
- less supply problems (you'll be able to get the system faster)

[Siskabush]

Hmm, find us a link...

XBox demo hoax (http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=35906&subsectionid=1586)
Looks like both damos were fake. If they need 2 apple G5's to run a 30% capacity XBox 360 game, and they are touting it as thier game machine running it, could this mean that the XBox 360 will be considerably less powerful?

Its now obvious both systems arent completed as of yet, So it comes down to the release. If anything, the in-store demos will reveal the truth about both systems' power.

[ccc1005]

XBox demo hoax (http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=35906&subsectionid=1586)
Looks like both damos were fake. If they need 2 apple G5's to run a 30% capacity XBox 360 game, and they are touting it as thier game machine running it, could this mean that the XBox 360 will be considerably less powerful?

Its now obvious both systems arent completed as of yet, So it comes down to the release. If anything, the in-store demos will reveal the truth about both systems' power.

Um it means the real one wil be more powerful..., it wasnt running 30% capacity game it was 30% the power of the real xbox 360...

[Wipeout]

Xbox 360 shortages, $76 per-console-loss predicted

The article predicts xbox 360 will run out of supply. For you people who really wants one, I recommend you preorder it. News article is right here:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/06/news_6127039.html

[DwarfBaby]

Ah, wipeout resurrecting dead posts about the PS3 again. I have no idea what motivates you but your life can't be this boring can it. First time parents don't get this exited about their unborn child.

[Wipeout]

How is this thread dead?

Note that I could've made a new thread for that but decided not to.

It ain't about ps3.

I move on.....

[DwarfBaby]

How can you possibly say this is not a PS3 post?


Xbox 360 shortages, $76 per-console-loss predicted

The article predicts xbox 360 will run out of supply. For you people who really wants one, I recommend you preorder it. News article is right here:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/06/news_6127039.html

Anything to present the PS3 in a better light


Whoops. Ok, I'll tell you I voted for ps3. I just know Jim Morrison is going to vote for xbox360. He won't listen to a word I say to him. But then again, nobody should post anymore of this stuff. Everybody should only vote. There is already enough information at my thread.

What a suprise.


The way I see it right now is I don't care about which one you think is the best. From looking at gamespot's poll, I can walk knowingly that ps3 will sell more. The console that sells more always wins. Yes! I can finally take a break from the comparison.

Seems PS3 related.


Yes, I admit I am a ps3 fanboy. I'm also glad I am one.

Shocked I am!


Spooky, you have too much time flaming around. As there are lots of people who cares. It's when you think the ps3 can beat the xbox360 and you got nothing to say. Your brain cannot think of any idea to debate with me. Then you act like that.

Btw, it's almost like you have to see my posts or else you can't live.

Actually, you were the one starting the argument. Stop trolling.

This isn't PS3 related?


Reverse it around and I can say sony can take advantage of every little thing the ps3 has to make a great game. They did it with the ps2 and they will repeat the process with the ps3.

Sorry but I just think that was a stupid thing to say.

Now back to the games. Obviously, games are becoming easier to make because they have more power to work with. This means that the ps3 games won't be that much harder to make than the x360.

Again in defense of the PS3.

[Wipeout]

Calm down. I was referring to the news article not being ps3 related and nothing else. Calm down.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Yes. Please do calm down.

[transduction]

PS3 of XBOX 360?

My answer is neither one. They are not impressive. Just faster processors and better graphics. To impress me, release an affordable virtual reality/holographic system Now that would by my vote.

Tesla

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Updated: Sony has other plans for its bank of Gigabit Ethernet ports

The PlayStation 3 was originally intended to act as a home network router, according to Sony Computer Entertainment boss Ken Kutaragi, who has revealed that the functionality has been dropped because it would have been too expensive.

Speaking with Japanese publication Nikkei Electronics, Kutaragi said that the original specification for the PS3 would have allowed the system's three Gigabit Ethernet ports to be used as a home router.

However, this functionality was dropped since it would have made the console cost too much to manufacture, he admitted - and Sony now expects that users will continue to use their existing router hardware, which is becoming more commonplace in households with broadband internet connections.

Read entire story here (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=10033).

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEkVEuupVAhBWJPUsL.php

http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/4/XeDK-smartxx/smartxx-xbx360-29_s.jpg

[Mels_Smileys45]

Support the X box! America needs to take over the Video game market! In the spirit of Nolan Bushnell , go X Box! I just love the idea of American gamers getting games first, like in the old days, instead of having to wait 6 months to a year after its released everywhere else.I have a feeling the X box will get a serious hold on the market this time around. They will have a considerable amount of time to gain a big share of the market.

[BloodStraw]

The only good thing about the xbox I can see is that it comes out first. I like the PS3 titles more and it has superior hardware, and besides I dont want to give my money to M$. It would suck if they dominated the video game market too.

[Auggie2k]

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[Krell]

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[boogiedan]

XBox360 for me
im seriously thinking of gettin 1 (when released in UK-Next Month)

Think in the future-- We will be able 2 do wondor's on it(Mod/Hack/hbrew/run XP etc.. etc..)

hoot hoot XBOX360

[Csel]

Why would anyone want the Xcrement box 360? its crap! its microsoft! its EVIL!!!!

but really, the 360 is nothing more than a crappy PC. They are making consoles into PCs so why even get a console when PCs are better anyways?

so dont get xbox cause its a crappy system with crappy games (the only good games on x-box are halo and fable, and you can get those on PC)

as for playstation, It has better games, but if its anything like PS1 or PS2 it will be junk, but still 100% than xbox.

gamecube I liked at first being a Nintendo Fan, but Nintendo when it comes to competitve business and commercialism is a complete moronic retard. The only thing thats kept it alive is gameboy, which they are gaying up too...

I can only hope that the Revolution's unique design will be assisted with common sense and an actual effort to compete. Then It shall smite the Microsoft Xcrement-box....


And you are probably wondering who this freak writing this is...So i'll say I'm a fan of SNES and N64!!! And I'm a true gamer (PC Gamer) but i thought I'd speak to you the truth and hope you see the light..:drunken_s :drunken_s